Lower Than This They Cannot Stoop

Guest Post by Thomas Fuller

Depending on when this gets posted, the post Anthony put up titled “O…M…G – Video explodes skeptical kids in bloodbath” may have sunk quite a bit down the pile of posts–Anthony and his squad are prolific posters.

But it can’t get any lower than the content shown in 10 10’s video. A relatively innocuous campaign to persuade people to lower their own emissions by 10 percent has pretty much exploded (literally) any hope that the debate can rise above the Wes Craven level. What’s next? The Last House on the Left… Isn’t Insulated?

The idea that blowing up skeptics is the proper response isn’t at all new–and skeptics have known this for ten years, if the drivel I get in my inbox is any indication at all. The very phrase ‘denier’ comes from a concerted campaign to show skeptics (and lukewarmers like myself, although we often get the double whammy title delayer and denier) as equivalent to those who denied the Holocaust occurred.

There has been a concerted campaign to paint everyone who does not agree with Al Gore and James Hansen as monstrous, ranging from allegories with the railroad trains filled with coal heading to some concentration camp to the late Stephen Schneider’s pathetic paper attempting to assert primacy and purity by miscounting academic publications.

But this is hate speech, pure and simple. It legitimizes almost any action against or characterization of those who do not agree with the most hysterical version of Catastrophic and Cataclysmic Climate Change–shoot ’em all and let God sort ’em out.

Using ten-year-old kids as both props and victims is a particularly nice touch.

When DDB created an ad for the WWF showing planes crashing into the World Trade Center as an advertisement asking for support for green activism, it was grotesque, tasteless and an insult to all who suffered losses on September 11th, 2001. It would have been impossible to imagine a cruder, less sensitive call to green action.

Until now.

For any of those on the activist side who wonder why skeptics (and lukewarmers) don’t trust the communications put forward by their team, they might wonder just how much any sign of reason might be contaminated by the stench from garbage like this.

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DDS
September 30, 2010 4:17 pm

I’ve already sent an email to the Club. I’m ashamed to be a Spurs fan.
It’s embarrassing on so many levels.

Chuck
September 30, 2010 4:32 pm

Has the last child crusade of the this inter-glacial period begun?

latitude
September 30, 2010 4:34 pm

Well Tom, infortunately you could say the same thing about democrats/liberals.
When they run out of ammo, name calling is all they have left.
I know how this racist, ignorant, homophobe, trailer trash feels.
The more they do it, the worse they look….
…now where did I put my bible and guns

Stephen Wilde
September 30, 2010 4:34 pm

How about a video showing the consequences of:
Insufficient energy to support third world citizens because it has been priced out of their reach with millions dying in squalor.
Poverty rife in the western world as the lights go out while the windfarms crumble.
Mercury from all those energy saving light bulbs contaminating our homes and workplaces.
Starvation worldwide as food prices rise from the increased cost of pesticides and fertilisers.
Running out of scarce resources far sooner than expected because of the quantities required for electric vehicles.
A huge mountain of dead vehicle batteries unable to be safely disposed of.
Vast quantities of uneconomic premature technology having to be consigned to the scrapheaps as we find improved systems for eneregy production.
And then prominent alarmists being blown up in a similar fashion.
The silly zealots would be screaming from the rooftops at such a portrayal despite it’s manifest truth as regards the merits of their campaign.

MarbellaBoy
September 30, 2010 4:39 pm

“The Last house on the left” – is not insulated
Ha ha ha, how about………
“The Hostel” – That’s what you get for taking a plane to Slovakia
“The Texas chainsaw massacre” – Better use for a chainsaw than cutting down trees
“The Shining” – You kept the heating on in that huge hotel for just three people?!!!
“Halloween” – Yea, I’ve got a trick in store for you alright
“Jaws” – If the shark don’t get you, the acid water will

David Gould
September 30, 2010 4:40 pm

You are taking this way too seriously, Tom. It is an amusing video precisely because it plays on the apparent paranoia in your article – the notion that those on my side of the debate are planning on deadly reprisals against sceptics. It is fun to pretend to have a persecution complex, but sad to have a real one.

Andrew W
September 30, 2010 4:41 pm

Many who accept AGW must be wondering with friends like these who needs enemies.

mircea
September 30, 2010 5:57 pm

” David Gould says: September 30, 2010 at 4:40 pm
You are taking this way too seriously, Tom. It is an amusing video precisely because it plays on the apparent paranoia in your article – the notion that those on my side of the debate are planning on deadly reprisals against sceptics. It is fun to pretend to have a persecution complex, but sad to have a real one.”
– Yes, you are right . The Jews had also a persecution complex. They just couldn’t appreciate the nazis’ funny jokes. And the millions of people killed by the left under Stalin, Pol Pot, Ceausescu and co also lacked the sense of humor. What can one expect from the bourgeois and capitalists? The left was joking and they just didn’t appreciate it. Otherwise they all would have had a good laugh of the good jokes done in those concentration camps. Ha, ha… how funny to see people blowing up people! And James Lee, the eco-terrorist, he was just joking and the hostages just didn’t have a sense of humor, they were paranoia.

Joe Lalonde
September 30, 2010 6:08 pm

Thomas,
There is always someone who can stoop lower.

David Gould
September 30, 2010 6:23 pm

mircea ,
Um, equating actual atrocities with comedy violence is … well, I could use strong words but I will go with ‘silly’.

Jimasherman
September 30, 2010 6:34 pm

Good job on the article Thomas.
Now we must confront the question of whether one can buy “just a little” snake oil .
Just for David Gould:
http://www.climatedepot.com/a/1096/Execute-Skeptics-Shock-Call-To-Action-At-what-point-do-we-jail-or-execute-global-warming-deniers–Shouldnt-we-start-punishing-them-now
Got your button yet David ?

David Gould
September 30, 2010 6:38 pm

Jimasherman ,
Sure do, Jimasherman. 🙂
I have already been referred to that. The existence of irrational lunatics does not mean that comedy violence is not funny.

John Whitman
September 30, 2010 6:39 pm

Tom Fuller,
People can stoop lower than the video. For example commenter David Gould stoops lower than the video by saying that if we don’t think it is humorous then we have some pyschological problem.
There is no bottom . . .
John

Douglas Dc
September 30, 2010 6:43 pm

David Gould-why do you support the murder of children?
children who think for themselves.
Murder is not funny.
genocide is not funny.
My late father in law liberated Dachau.
He told the story of piles of bodies and
living skeletons. If you think that this is funny,
Dachau must be a laugh riot…

David King
September 30, 2010 6:44 pm

There is really nothing comical about this video. No humor at all.

David Gould
September 30, 2010 6:56 pm

John Whitman,
Lighten up. We’re not out to get you. 🙂

ZT
September 30, 2010 6:56 pm

Yes, there is clearly something sadly desperate about this video. Now if the Brits made a similar piece on regular dental treatment – that would provide a sensible application of the precautionary principle.
Also, I am suspicious that Crouch has had his legs surgically reduced, in a deliberate attempt to annoy defenders. Either that or his stilts are corroding in the warm moisture which passes for climate disruption in London.

mircea
September 30, 2010 6:59 pm

David Gould says: September 30, 2010 at 6:23 pm
“mircea , Um, equating actual atrocities with comedy violence is … well, I could use strong words but I will go with ‘silly’.”
What? Now you lost your sense of humor? It’s funny… Here it is a guy who doesn’t follow the authority and the authority blows him up. Ha, ha, ha … what a good joke!

David Gould
September 30, 2010 7:05 pm

Anthony Watts,
Didn’t you already ask that question? I am guessing that, for whatever reason, you want the answer in this thread, too. No problem: yes, I do. Editor, writer and researcher, in case you’re interested. 🙂

David Gould
September 30, 2010 7:08 pm

Douglas Dc,
Umm, you may have missed it, but this video is *fiction*. Equating Dachau to fiction is a … odd, to say the least. My grandfather was Jewish, so it is really a bit personally insulting. But thinking that me finding fictional violence amusing means that I support the murder of children perhaps indicates that you are not thinking clearly at the moment, and so I will cut you some slack.

Spector
September 30, 2010 7:11 pm

I have not bothered to look at it, but perhaps this is an out-growth of the computer-game mentality where you imagine yourself as ‘Wonder Man’ out to save the planet from the big-oil monsters and blast as many of them away as possible to get the highest score. I would not be surprised if someone were not developing a computer-game with this theme right now.

David Gould
September 30, 2010 7:16 pm

Anthony Watts,
Unfortunately, my influence extends precisely nowhere. I could write a letter to the federal minister for agriculture that *might* have *slightly* more chance of being read by someone in a position to do something, but that would be about it. And it appears to be a state matter, rather than a federal one. A further complication is that the federal government is Labor and the state government Liberal.
Perhaps the best advice I could offer is for the family to contact Bob Katter, Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott, the three country independents. Tony Crook, a National Party member from WA but one who wishes to be considered as an Independent, might also be well worth a shot. These people have power in the new hung parliament.

Brian G Valentine
September 30, 2010 7:17 pm

What would alarmists call this sick [snip]?
I guess they would call it “edgy” or something, I don’t know.
Go ahead, delete my post for calling it “sick [snip]” but that’s exactly what it is.

Jimasherman
September 30, 2010 7:18 pm

“Jimasherman ,
Sure do, Jimasherman. 🙂
I have already been referred to that. The existence of irrational lunatics does not mean that comedy violence is not funny.

Here’s the deal David.
I feel strongly about this so I switched up to my full name.
This is not comedy violence. No matter how you cut it I am not getting the joke. Nor is it absurd enough to be in the Monty Python, Blackadder realm with which I am quite familiar.
It is quite apparent that people who find it funny fall into two categories.
A: people that are already propagndized to be enthusiastic to the point of fanatacism about the “Climate Crisis”, and they are a bunch of nutters as we have seen in great detail.
and
B: people who find it so over the top that they do not even believe that this is what we in the USA would cal a PSA ( Public service announcement) in advertisement if a political public participation event, sponsored by fanatical NGO’s.
Pick yer poison wisely .

Richard Sharpe
September 30, 2010 7:21 pm

Well, fictional violence, as in Wile E Coyote and Elmer Fudd and so forth, is amusing.
Fictional violence, as in A Clockwork Orange, is disturbing.
Given the propensity for the AGW crowd to label sceptics as denialists (and thus equate them to holocaust denialists) it behoves them avoid going overboard, it would seem to me. Or perhaps they just can’t help themselves … perhaps it is like Bush derangement syndrome. (Climate Sceptics Derangement Syndrome, anyone?)

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