From the “weather is not climate” department, we have this unusual event in the south of France, in the French Rivera, from Yahoo news:
People are seen on the beach covered by snow in Nice, southeastern France, Saturday, Dec. 19, 2009. Temperature is 3 degrees celcius (37,2 Farenheit).
The above report is only short term, 8 years according tot he website, I’m writing this entry froma Starbucks while traveling so perhaps our readers can find a longer term snow record for Nice, France.
Snow on the French Riviera????
I am an American Expat living in Antibes (Nice) France. I live 5 blocks from the beach, and 3 blocks from Port Vabaun, the 2nd largest yacht port in the world. I thought living here, I would escape the ice and snow of my native Cincinnati, Ohio. Boy was I wrong!!!
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CNN was no doubt telling it’s last two viewers the snow was caused by global warming.
O/T, but relevant.
“Now, a study published in the NZ Journal of Science back in 1980 reveals weather stations at the heart of NIWA’s claims of massive warming were shown to be unreliable and untrustworthy by a senior Met Office climate scientist 30 years ago, long before global warming became a politically charged issue. ”
http://briefingroom.typepad.com/the_briefing_room/2009/12/nz-study-may-hold-key-to-faulty-world-temp-data.html
“Snowfall, although extremely rare, sometimes occurs.”
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:XxYcnBK5xbQJ:www.about-french-riviera.com/nice.html+french+riviera+snowfall+dates&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
Had to go to the cached site, so the url is a bit ugly.
The video is from November 2008
Nice day to hit the beach! Meanwhile, here’s a cool public opinion survey on the credibility of scientists:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2009/12/18/GR2009121800213.html?sid=ST2009121800006
Q: How much do you trust the things that scientists say about the environment?
Compares answers in April 2007 with now. Trust is going down across the political spectrum. Though most intriguingly, those who trust “completely” has gone up (from 5% to 10%). But at the other extreme, those who trust “not at all,” has gone up faster (5% to 14%).
Also: WSJ has an astute article on Climate Change “Groupthink.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704238104574601762696721506.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
The linked video is dated November 24, 2008.
That’s last year, perhaps with all this snow becoming an annual event the property prices might fall, and I could afford to move there.
That’s not snow, it’s white soot.
Never, ever, ever let Al Gore visit.
whats up with the date on the video??
O/T
Following the link given by Adom Gallon, one arrives at the original article published in the NZ Journal of Science, by J.W.D. Hessel, “Apparent trends of mean temperature in New Zealand since 1930” (received june 1979):
http://www.investigatemagazine.com/hessell1980.pdf
The abstract reads:
“The evidence of apparent continuous warming over New Zealand since 1940 is examined from both physical and statistical standpoints. It is found that the exposures of most of the thermometers have been affected by changes in shelter, screenage and/or urbanisation, all of which tend to increase the observed mean temperature. A systematic analysis of all New Zealand climatological stations with sufficient lengths of records reveals that no important change in annual mean temperature since 1930 has been found at stations where the above factors are negligible. Neighbour stations comparisons support these findings”.
The final sentence of the conclusion reads: “It is concluded that the warming trends in New Zealand previously claimed, are in doubt and that as has been found in Australia (Tucker 1975) no clear evidence for long term secular warming or cooling in Australasia over the last 50 years exists as yet”.
COPENHAGEN [AP] – Shocked and shaken by the theft of the Auschwitz sign, the world community must now “take note” of another midnight action. This time its a deal brokered by US President Barack Obama at the largest and most important U.N. meeting ever on fighting global warming. The new deal, which abandons the most vulnerable of nations along with the world’s biologically rich tropical forests, continues a pattern of what international representatives call a “real lack of transparency” by the White House. Obama dismissed the UN’s criticisms of his unusual and undemocratic negotiating process as “cynicism” while declaring his unbinding document an “unprecedented breakthrough”. Obama’s document promises to funnel up to $100B a year through the UN Development Programme, widely known for its corruption. “The deal is a triumph of spin over substance,” said Jeremy Hobbs, executive director of Oxfam International, it “kicks back” on the issue of “climate cash”. Like the Nazis sending “6 million people into furnaces” in the Holocaust, Obama is condemning the world to wide-spread global warming deaths, other leaders pointed out. Meanwhile, outside in the cold, hundreds of European protesters chanted and carried signs of Obama with the word “shame” pasted on his face.
Then there’s also this:
2,000 trapped as Eurostar trains break down
Eurostar officials have speculated that the quick transition from the icy cold of France, which is suffering some of its worst winter weather in years, to the relative warmth of the tunnel could have interfered with the trains’ electrical systems. But the company’s chief operating officer, Nicolas Petrovic, said Eurostar will have to investigate why the trains broke down.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hP-DkxBjO-6hw4Azs-8JYnQWosLgD9CMKS280
I am a bit confused. The iReport is from 2008, but the picture has Dec this year date. When I click on the link under the picture, it only takes me to AP images to register to buy an image? Could you put up a link to the recent story from 2009?
“People are seen on the beach covered by snow in Nice”,
I’m really getting tired of skeptics making specious claims. You are making the mistake of looking at the raw data. The adjusted data shows that was not snow.
I think the whole NHemishpere is going to get it this winter-Nino or No Nino.
That Polar jet has me a bit concerned…
Hello from France !
It’s not snow on the video : it was hailing !
Today, in France, we have snow, ice, low temperatures, but not many skeptics about global warming ! Heeeeeeelp !!!!!!! ;))
“-This is soooooo UN-presidented.”
I don’t know where to tip off Anthony, but I’ll put the tip here. The Times seems to give space also to sceptics:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/dominic_lawson/article6962842.ece
Weather is when it happens once – or maybe twice. When it happens more than that, it’s “CLIMATE”. I’ve spent 4+ years living with “weather” (Continental Divide Trail, Great Divide Trail and the Canadian Rockies, Alaska, Newfoundland and the Pacific Crest Trail – ALL of them colder than “normal” by 10 to 20 degrees). It stopped being “weather” today while I was shovelling the 20 inches of snow from a 100′ driveway – and then had to shovel my way back into the house.
– 19°C this evening north of Strasbourg, Alsace , France; but we still have some gluewein
http://www.drinknation.com/drink/gluewein
this still has to be overturned:
UK Telegraph: Copenhagen accord keeps Big Carbon in business
The Copenhagen summit achieved its main aim, to maintain the carbon-trading
system established by the Kyoto Protocol, says Christopher Booker
Naturally none of this was allowed to percolate the discussions in
Copenhagen where, behind all the playacting and flim-flam of the stage army
of activists (most of them subsidised by the world’s taxpayers), the only
real concern was to maintain the greatest financial scam the world has ever
seen.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6845686/Copenhagen-accord-keeps-Big-Carbon-in-business.html
From the “weather is not climate” department, it’s currently -20°C in Nome, Alaska.. while it was +3°C in 1969 !
In Nome it was also +2°C on the 16th of December 1945 !
http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/PAOM/2009/12/19/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA
http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/PAOM/1950/12/16/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA
In another blog I used a link that took me to Sarah Palin’s facebook page. She seems to have the only balanced view on climate change I have seen from a politician. Check it out. I may keep an eye on her, which isn’t hard to do by the way.
Sooner or later the American people ae going to start believing their own eyes instead of what the politicians tell them.
Here in Baltimore, it has been snowing all day. The forecast is for 20″. It is by far the coldest period of heavy precipitation in the time I’ve been here (about six years), and, I suspect, much longer than that.