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Has Climate Change had its “Ten Minutes of Fame”?
Written by James Murray
THUNDER BAY – Yesterday was the International Day of Action on Climate Change. In Ottawa, cold weather kept the crowd from hitting the 5,000 people that organizers hoped. About 500 people showed up. In Calgary, a snowstorm dumped wet heavy snow on the city.
On Google, unlike past climate change events, there was not a special logo created. On the front pages of major newspapers across Canada the major stories were not about the looming climate crisis.
In Winnipeg, about 200 people made it to a rally at the Manitoba Legislature. In Vancouver, a city steeped in protest, the crowd was estimated at 5000. Across Canada interest in the day of action appeared less than ever.
Could it be that the fire is smoldering out on the issue of climate change? Maybe in an era where ever shorter attention spans want to shift to other topics the climate issue has had its “ten minutes of fame”?
On the popular news site www.bourque.com the climate issue is not mentioned. This morning, on Google News, there isn’t a mention of the day of protest on the top stories either. The front page of the Toronto Star is void of climate change stories too.
Over on www.wattsupwiththat.com a website that over the past several years has dug into the issue, the comment is that global warming and climate change are “urban legends”. Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D. writes, “I contend that the belief in human-caused global warming as a dangerous event, either now or in the future, has most of the characteristics of an urban legend. Like other urban legends, it is based upon an element of truth. Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas whose concentration in the atmosphere is increasing, and since greenhouse gases warm the lower atmosphere, more CO2 can be expected, at least theoretically, to result in some level of warming”.
It is, perhaps causing some in the movement to ramp up their rhetoric to try to gain more attention. Elizabeth May and the Green Party recently took the approach that the only way to get the message out is to state, “Your Parents F*cked Up The Planet”. May’s justification is that “Our culture is steeped in the F-word”.
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I found the article rather dissapointing. He seems to suggest people are becoming bored with AGW rather than believing it an unproven theory.
How do the warmists explain this?
Palms grew in ice-free Arctic 50 million years ago: study
http://anhonestclimatedebate.wordpress.com/2009/10/26/palms-grew-in-ice-free-arctic-50-million-years-ago-study
I don’t trust ’em … it’s like when the kids get too quiet… they must be up to something.
I had expected a lot more CC exposure running into the Copenhagen love in, but it is eerily quiet. Maybe they think they have done enough already to coast it home?
I think they are trying to keep down the exposure now that the draft Copenhagen document is out and the ramifications of the treaty are becoming apparent. At this stage any CC blog is going to attract negative attention from those wanting to know “what’s the price of this treaty?”
The “faithful” will not be disuaded by logic nor facts.
Their “belief system” (that feel good feeling they get by enforcing their AGW beliefs on the rest of society) can only be changed by “conversion” not discussion or negotiation.
[write without profanity or implied profanity or risk wholesale deletion. Fixing these is more work than I care to put in ~ ctm] why is life expectancy 35+ years higher than it was in 1900, why do 1st world countries have much better environmental outcomes than 100 years ago, e.g air quality, improved rivers, streams etc.
It’s all because of relatively cheap energy and an incredible increase in modern technology ( medical, engineering etc) and much higher spending on R&D due to a much higher standard of living.
Of course people in 3rd world and developing countries have also benifited from these improvements and are much better off than they were a generation ago.
The human population of the planet was little more than 1.5 billion in 1900 when so many ( now)1st world countries had a high percentage of their population working on farms just to provide enough food to eat.
These green numbskulls are real whackos with little understanding and even less common sense.
The story in this morning’s Independent, normally a bastion of global warming goonery, is one I heartily endorse them reporting:
that in Copenhagen, a treaty designed to protect tropical rainforests is being modified to allow them to be chopped down and replanted with a monoculture.
Our problems, such as they are, are undoubtedly exacerbated by uncontrolled, unsustainable logging. It will go the way of European fishing…..
Now if the politicians would grasp the nettle on this VALUABLE treaty??
You may have a point about the popular media. See, for example, today’s Daily Mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1222950/Its-YOUR-fault-kittens-puppies-drown-Daddy.html
It’s about that absurd British government advertising campaign to persuade us that carbon dioxide “from grown-ups” is drowning puppies. The Daily Mail, at least, has had enough. Here are a couple of choice quotes from the article:
“A tide of green propaganda (like this £6m TV ad) is turning children into eco-tyrants, says one persecuted parent.”
“Equally, I want my children’s generation to grow up believing in progress.
I believe that a lot of the eco-nonsense our children are taught has far less to do with love of nature than hatred of mankind.
It’s a manifestation of the same urge that led pagans to sacrifice their prettiest virgins to the gods: this poisonous , self-loathing idea that we are the authors of all the planet’s ills and that only by making life more miserable for ourselves can we ever hope to atone.
Our children deserve better than this pessimism. It’s their future. We should give them more faith in it”.
Elsewhere in the paper, another article is outraged by the proposed green taxes on new cars:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1222976/The-green-car-tax-blitz–3-300-levy-new-vehicles-fuel-duty-soars.html
“Motorist face a huge increase in fuel duty and a £3,300 levy on new cars under plans that could see families’ green tax burden soar.
A report unveiled today by experts including the Government’s environment tsar will urge £150billion in taxes on households and businesses.
Petrol could cost £2 a litre by 2020, while a tax on new cars that would start at £300 would rise by £3,000 over the next 11 years.
The blitz is essential if Britain is to meet its target of cutting greenhouse gas emissions by a third by that time, according to the influential think-tank behind the proposals.
But critics said drivers were already over-taxed and were being used as ‘cash cows’.”
The tide may be turning as the popular media realizes where all this global warming propaganda is taking us, and what it’s going to cost us all.
<i.Could it be that the fire is smoldering out on the issue of climate change? Maybe in an era where ever shorter attention spans want to shift to other topics the climate issue has had its “ten minutes of fame”?
Maybe in Canada, but not in the UK where alarmists continue to link any flood, storm or warm spell with climate change, which the BBC then report as a fact. It is as if the BBC has just become the press department of WWF and Grrenpeace, there are no hard questions (except perhaps Stephen Sackur’s HardTalk interview with the retiring Greenpeace director). Skeptics are never invited to comment or give a counter perpspective, as evidenced by the recent Newsnight programme.
Elizabeth May has such a quaint if rather unoriginal way with the English language. The word itself does indeed possess great versatility within the English language as an adjective, verb, noun, etc! Let’s hope CC has indeed had its day, it’s amazing that David Miliband can’t grasp that over 50% of the UK population doesn’t believe him & his scientifically illiterate colleagues about all this nonsense. He seems to forget that until he & or the EU legislate accordingly (all in good time), we are a relatively free country, & as such are so far permitted free thought & opinion, & as many of us are older & wiser are probably better educated scientifically speaking, before it became state policy to change the science in schools & universities, to suit political expediency.
I do hope the Ministry of Information’s science re-training camps are well equiped & by the sea!
Great article in the Telegraph today. There’ve always been the odd outliers of scepticism in the UK press, but it feels like they’re becoming more strident and higher profile over recent months… is the camel’s back going to break soon?
OT, but AMSR-E has “glitched”, it would appear.
A “U” turn from 7,527,652 down to 7,447,813 square kilometres of Arctic ice. http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm
According to http://www.iris.edu/seismon/bigmap/index.phtml there was an earthquake yesterday, shown as an orange circle, to the north of Norway.
Underwater volcano perhaps or sensory deprivation?
I am aghast & all ears.
I don’t believe that it’s a question of having had it’s 10 minutes of fame, more to do with the majority of the general public not being quite as dumb as politicians would wish.
After many years of dire warnings about tipping points that are always (insert favourite number) years away, forecasts for (insert season) that are laughably wrong – let alone the inability to even get the weekend’s weather even vaguely right and seeing the way that politicians preach to us how we should change our lifestyles, whilst still carrying on merrily flying the earth, keeping public buildings lit like Christmas trees at all hours and being completely inable to formulate even a medium-term energy policy, whilst sticking their thieving hands deeper into our pockets in the name of “Saving the Planet”, Joe Public has spotted that the climate hasn’t got warmer, indeed it has all the hallmarks of cooling off.
Add in the regular jollies taking “World Leaders” off to somewhere nice for a few days, where they & hundreds of hangers-on can have a few slap up meals and glad hand each other infront of the press, but after all the hot air, nothing happens, Joe Public starts to ask “Is there really anything the matter”?
Especially compared to the way that a threat like that shown by Islamic terrorism and Saddam Hussain can be tackled within a fairly short order.
The fairy tale “The Boy who called Wolf” comes to mind, except the wolf has turned out to be a rather scruffy, toothless mongrel, that after being taken in, bathed, de-flead and given a few square meals, actually turns out to be pretty good with the kids.
Arctic Sediments Show That 20th Century Warming Is Unlike Natural Variation
Check out this article – http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091023163513.htm
I am very interested to hear your comments on the article.
Dont mean to be snarky etc but I think NH ice needs to be looked at seriously at this time. The only sensible ones are DMI who are NOT prepared to put up trash data since October 1. Briefly saw DMI 2 days ago it showed completely trashy data with a disclaimer that it should not be relied on. They have pulled the site again. Meanwhile CT, Jaxa Norsex continue using this data Please….
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When they trot out the F-word rhetoric, you realize the Greenies know they have jumped the shark. People are fine to play along with hoaxes until it costs money or hurts them personally.
Sounds like the message is getting out at last. I wonder how long it will take to percolate through those thick venal skulls of the politicians driving this BS?
Unfortunately, there can be as many (or as few) stupid “Days of Action” as you like and the polls can reflect (or not) widespread and growing scepticism about this whole ridiculous eco-fascist AGW hoax.
When there is a General Election in the UK in May, which party can I vote for, to register a protest against the really scary thing – the hikes in taxes, damage to the economy, fuel poverty, betrayal of the third world poor which are absolutely the consequences of this scam? All the major Political Parties vie with themselves to be greener (= more stupid) than the next.
Do you think that those who will gather in Copenhagen in a few weeks time care two hoots about public opinion?
They have their eyes firmly on the eco-fascist Super State they are working towards and the enormous stealth taxes they will collect.
Their attitude is the same as one of my bosses when I started working as a Civil Engineer many years ago. “Facts? Don’t confuse me with facts! I’ve made up my mind!”
Beautiful day in Sydney, Australia… but only a few hundred turned up – if you count the kids dragged along by their parents!!
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I suppose images like this do not exactly help their cause:
http://www.iceagenow.com/SnowyProtest.jpg
http://i.usatoday.net/weather/_photos/2009/03/02/climate-protestx-large.jpg
I’m still waiting for the Copenhagen Conference to be held in a blizzard.
Two hard winters will see of this entire religion, and all the AGW supporters will sink with it. It was rather stupid for anyone to hang their political reputation, and the economy of a nation, on something as variable as the weather. Political suicide.
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As I’ve said before, the decision(s) has/have been made. It matters not what supporters/deniers of AGW think, beleive or know, the *politics* is settled.
It really does remind me of the ending of the film “Soylent Green”. Recall, the lies arround sea based food supplies? Well lies, are lies, no matter what their basis are. It’s clear AGW, based solely on A-CO2 emissions over 150 years, but more so the last 50, is just *not* happening. Lies. The ending of the film sums up, I know pessimistically, for me the fate of the masses (Of taxpayers). The elite will win, and then I will look for support from my fellow unwashed, and lop the heads off these parasites.
I’m sorry if I used profanity, but I did no more tha repeat what was in the article, certainly no more.
I didn’t use the full f word but took my cue from the reference you have at the end of the story, no more no less.
“Loco (02:10:38) :
Beautiful day in Sydney, Australia… but only a few hundred turned up – if you count the kids dragged along by their parents!!”
Today? Cold, very cold for mid spring. But then cold is only weather.
>>>(except perhaps Stephen Sackur’s HardTalk interview
>>>with the retiring Greenpeace director).
But Stephen Sackur was an absolute kitten on Hardtalk, with a wind-power proponent in Jan ’08. The creepy proponent said “the wind always blows, and days without wind are like hen’s teeth”
And Sackur let that go, not saying a word. Even if Sackur is totally scientifically illiterate, which he probably is, he should know that even windy Britain has many windless (below 10mph) days, when windelecs do not work. (They do not work below 10mph and above 40mph)
Moreover, those windless days are anticyclonic, and so tend to affect the entire UK (and most of Europe too). If we had 20% wind power in the UK, as this Greenpeace-Eco-Government wants, we would have a power cut every week, and sometimes for weeks on end.
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MH (01:56:58) :
Arctic Sediments Show That 20th Century Warming Is Unlike Natural Variation
Check out this article – http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091023163513.htm
I am very interested to hear your comments on the article
This was covered in a number of posts last week. Look for posts with midges in the title. Long story short, it’s worse than the usual AGW dreck.
The scheduling of these events in the times of the year where cold weather normally resides is rather obvious. Global Warming was supposed to make for a backdrop of balmy conditions. Didn’t happen. Neither has Global Warming.
Sounds to me like 90% of the supporters deserted, and some of these once ardent fans aren’t coming back. AGW just lost key support at the grass roots, where once devoted and loud voices make for the worst possible outcome: Base turned skeptic.