I’ll leave this one in the hands of Australian Climate Madness who gets credit for spotting this unbelievable quote from a supposed journalistic enterprise of integrity known as “The Age”. – Anthony
Astonishing quote from “The Age”
The Age reports on another “yoof” climate campaign wittily entitled “Youth Decide” (“you decide,” geddit? Link here.) in which the kids of today vote on which world they wish to inherit. Here are the three options:
Even The Age pokes fun at the poll, wondering why we should pay attention to the opinion of 12 year olds (brainwashed at school by endless showings of An Inconvenient Truth in science class, rather than in politics class). But it also includes an almost unbelievable quote, revealing a great deal about The Age‘s view on the campaign to save the planet from climate change:
There is not, now, much value in arguing about the science of climate change. Even if it’s wrong, enough people now believe it that it may as well be right.
In other words, give up trying to argue that the science is wrong. We’ve successfully pulled the wool over the public’s eyes now, mostly thanks to the misrepresentations in the media, and primarily thanks to the alarmist Fairfax (which includes The Age itself and The Sydney Morning Herald), and so who cares if it complete BS? We will achieve our political goals whatever happens now.
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Similarly there is little point arguing the existence of god / allah / budha / odin / flying spaghetti monster as so many people believe they exist, they might as well be real.
Oh, the wisdom of crowds !
Just a restatement of the Thomas Theorem (attributed to Sociologist W.I. Thomas) “what is considered real is real in its consequences”.
Forward, Lemmings!
Boudo:
May you be touched by His Noodly Appendage!
In europe on cnn and bbc the programming is 100% climate change all the time.
Almost every news story has a climate change angle, yesterday the two stories I saw repeated several times were the german freighters that took the northeast passage and bangladesh is flooding due to rising sea levels.
If I didn’t have the interwebs as a source of information I’d be digging a shelter for the coming climate apocalypse.
I think now it will take years of brutally cold winters and complete and total refutation of climate modeling and AGW before the average person would accept that the science was never settled.
From the Science and Technology section of The Onion…
“Melting Ice Caps Expose Hundreds Of Secret Arctic Lairs”
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/melting_ice_caps_expose_hundreds?utm_source=a-section
MyFriendOtis (13:18:37) :
Ramen !
There is a similarly nonsensical yet disturbing quote from the good folks 😉 at Pew, as quoted in the Sept. 19 edition of the National Post in the article “Get ready for power prices to quadruple” :
“:Janet Peace, vice-president for markets and business strategy at the Arlington, Va.-based Pew Center on Global Climate Change, said there is no point in debating whether humans are to blame for rising global temperatures.
“Whether you believe the science or not, the train has left the station,” she told the audience of chief executives , government officials, economists and scientists.”
“Get ready for power prices to quadruple”
http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=2010166
(This article might require registered access to the National Post web site.)
Paul
Kath (13:19:53) :
So that’s what the UN was doing up there in the Arctic lately.
joe (13:18:47) : “In europe on cnn and bbc the programming is 100% climate change all the time.
Almost every news story has a climate change angle, yesterday the two stories I saw repeated several times were the german freighters that took the northeast passage …..”
That story was published here (Australia) too, of course. I was so angry that they just pump this stuff out without checking, that I wrote in and my letter was published:
http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/letters/index.php/theaustralian/comments/dont_let_facts_interfere
“YOUR article (“German ships break the ice on trade frontier”, 15/9) begins, “It is a symbol of global warming” and goes on to say that the voyage of two German container ships through the Russian Northeast Passage was “considered impossible until a few years ago”. What tosh.
The Russian Northeast Passage has been known to be navigable since the mid 1800s. Adolf Nordenskiold navigated the Northeast Passage from west to east in the Swedish steamship Vega in 1878, and in 1915 Russian hydrographer and surveyor Boris Vilkitsky made the passage from east to west.
The passage was used regularly and commercially by the USSR, and the only reason that the route was “impossible” for Western ships is that Moscow refused access.”
The interesting thing is that the letter was edited in a way that (a) actually improved it and (b) showed that the newspaper had checked the information before publishing.
I hope they also had stern words for the “journalist” …..
Robert E. Phelan (13:11:16) :
Forward, Lemmings!
I’m sure you know that Lemmings don’t commit suicide by jumping off cliffs. I understand exactly your meaning but it is also ironic in this case considering the image of Lemmings leaping to their deaths was a fabrication!
“There is not, now, much value in arguing about the science of climate change. Even if it’s wrong, enough people now believe it that it may as well be right.”
Joseph Goebbels would be proud.
“12 year olds (brainwashed at school by endless showings of An Inconvenient Truth in science class, rather than in politics class). But it also includes an almost unbelievable”
What’s really disgusting about this BS. There’s cases where children come home from school after their brainwash session scared. Thinking they’re going to all drown because the icecaps are melting.
Al Gore and his Lying Alarmist Ilk should be made to eat 100s of DVD copies of that fraudulent disaster doco movie of his. If the signs are there and we get a continuing upward trend in Arctic sea-ice recovery in the next fews. All his predictions of it being ice free by 2013 will be nought!
Stephen Skinner (13:49:44) :
But enough people believe that lemmings leap off of cliffs that it may as well be real.
The UK as a functioning modern society looks like it’ll be coming to an end in a few years, give or take the possibility of riots
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6832964.ece
Carbon footprint trials for exceeding your carbon ration, SERIOUSLY!? O.O
Except, every time they Poll “Real” people it comes up raspberries.
This should be Oregon’s motto.
“Even if it’s wrong, enough people now believe it that it may as well be right”
There are so many causes and policies being advocated here based upon global warming that the village idiots feel smart.
Honestly, we have bridges, housing, growth, industry, energy, taxation and a litany of other matters being crafted with the worry of how they may effect climate. Or rather, save the planet.
Oregon’s press has been so parotting of the AGW dogma that the State is saturated with people, Just like that guy walking 350 miles, who are thoroughly conviced of the AGW threat.
Every day there’s more nonsense.
That motto fits them too perfectly.
I’ve witnessed many people who have already revealed that their comittment to the AGW movement will remain even if it is shown to be a complete fraud. It doesn’t matter and those lying will still be credible.
“We need the many policies anyway to reduce our reliance on foreign oil”.
Or
“Even without the warming problem our CO2 emissions are acidifying the oceans”.
Or
“We need these policies for progress in sustainability to preserve the environment and create jobs.”
etc etc etc
Here’s a multiple choice question to ask the “youth”:
Should government force your parents to pay them:
a. None of their hard earned money
b. 20% of their hard earned money
c. 50% of their hard earned money
Guess what the answer will be?
Get ready for power prices to quadruple
Transcanada CEO
Carrie Tait, Financial Post
Published: Saturday, September 19, 2009
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Hal Kvisle
Janet Peace
Climatology
Earth Science
Pew Center on Global Climate Change
Todd Korol, Reuters Files Hal Kvisle, TransCanada president and CEO.
Electricity prices will quadruple as countries toughen their stance on greenhouse gas emissions, and governments need to brace the public for the price spike, a chief executive of a major power generating company said yesterday.
—9/11 and Pearl Harbor attacks weren’t this successful.
The US will grind to a halt within a few months. 10’s of millions thrown out of work. Agriculture crippled. Imports slashed when currency tanks. Trucking system put out of business. Idle airports. Abandoned ports. Empty shelves.
Did anyone stop to consider what quadrupling all forms of energy in short order would do?
All you have to do is to take a look at how bad the Western Economy tanked when oil hit $150/bbl. And they want to brace us for $300/bbl or worse. $12-16/gal gas.
Our transportation system runs on diesel. Period.
Manufacturing & commerical run on electricity. The cose of extraction and transport of coal will skyrocket.
With a treasury exhausted, it leaves little to the imagination.
Figure it out.
I looked for the dead birds around the windmills in “World 3”.
Notice how it’s all ‘climate change’ now and not ‘global warming’.
Another inconsistency: Shouldn’t “World 3” have sprawling solar-panel-arrays in place of trees?
“People will more readily believe the big lie than the little lie.” Hitler and the AGW movement have one thing in common: they know (knew) how to manipulate people. And sadly, people let themselves be duped. Believe me, if not for climate change, the world will find another fake crisis to take our money. The UN is already wanting to ciphon money from “rich” nations and give it to “poor” to prevent swine flu creating anarchy. It won’t end, the lie will just change.
World 3: transcontinental flights attempted only by gliders.
So. Sail boats, bigger fish, a couple more trees. Asia figures prominently in the graphic I notice. Hmmm. That seems to be a message.
World 3 looks a lot like prior to 1800. Thanks, but I’ll pass. My direct ancestors sailed over to the New World in the early 1600’s. Don’t think I’d want to repeat that.
Stephen Skinner (13:49:44) :
Actually, I was NOT aware of that… one learns something new all the time. The image is so ingrained in our language, however, that it conveys a certain truth without necessarily being true. Much as GEICO means no disrespect to Neanderthals (who actually had brains about 10% larger than ours) I meant no offense to lemmings, who are, I’m sure, noble and sensitive creatures.