New paper from Lindzen demonstrates low climate sensitivity with observational data

“…ERBE data appear to demonstrate a climate sensitivity of about 0.5°C which is easily distinguished from sensitivities given by models.”

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On the determination of climate feedbacks from ERBE data

Richard S. Lindzen and Yong-Sang Choi

Revised on July 14, 2009 for publication to Geophysical Research Letters

Abstract

Climate feedbacks are estimated from fluctuations in the outgoing radiation budget from the latest version of Earth Radiation Budget Experiment (ERBE) nonscanner data. It appears, for the entire tropics, the observed outgoing radiation fluxes increase with the increase in sea surface temperatures (SSTs). The observed behavior of radiation fluxes implies negative feedback processes associated with relatively low climate sensitivity. This is the opposite of the behavior of 11 atmospheric models forced by the same SSTs. Therefore, the models display much higher climate sensitivity than is inferred from ERBE, though it is difficult to pin down such high sensitivities with any precision. Results also show, the feedback in ERBE is mostly from shortwave radiation while the feedback in the models is mostly from longwave radiation. Although such a test does not distinguish the mechanisms, this is important since the inconsistency of climate feedbacks constitutes a very fundamental problem in climate prediction.

Introduction

The purpose of the present note is to inquire whether observations of the earth’s radiation imbalance can be used to infer feedbacks and climate sensitivity. Such an approach has, as we will see, some difficulties, but it appears that they can be overcome. This is important since most current estimates of climate sensitivity are based on global climate model (GCM) results, and these obviously need observational testing.

To see what one particular difficulty is, consider the following conceptual situation:

We instantaneously double CO2. This will cause the characteristic emission level to rise to a colder level with an associated diminution of outgoing longwave radiation (OLR). The resulting radiative imbalance is what is generally referred to as radiative forcing. However, the resulting warming will eventually eliminate the radiative imbalance as the system approaches equilibrium. The actual amount of warming associated with

equilibration as well as the response time will depend on the climate feedbacks in the system. These feedbacks arise from the dependence of radiatively important substances like water vapor (which is a powerful greenhouse gas) and clouds (which are important for both infrared and visible radiation) on the temperature. If the feedbacks are positive, then both the equilibrium warming and the response time will increase; if they are negative, both will decrease. Simple calculations as well as GCM results suggest response times on the order of decades for positive feedbacks and years or less for negative feedbacks [Lindzen and Giannitsis, 1998, and references therein].

The main point of this example is to illustrate that the climate system tends to eliminate radiative imbalances with characteristic response times.

Now, in 2002–2004 several papers noted that there was interdecadal change in the top-of-atmosphere (TOA) radiative balance associated with a warming between the 1980’s and 1990’s [Chen et al., 2002; Wang et al., 2002; Wielicki et al., 2002a, b; Cess and Udelhofen, 2003; Hatzidimitriou et al., 2004; Lin et al., 2004]. Chou and Lindzen [2005] inferred from the interdecadal changes in OLR and temperature that there was a strong negative feedback. However, this result was internally inconsistent since the

persistence of the imbalance over a decade implied a positive feedback. A subsequent correction to the satellite data eliminated much of the decadal variation in the radiative balance [Wong et al., 2006].

However, it also made clear that one could not readily use decadal variability in surface temperature to infer feedbacks from ERBE data. Rather one needs to look at temperature variations that are long compared to the time scales associated with the feedback processes, but short compared to the response time over which the system equilibrates. This is also important so as to unambiguously observe changes in the radiative budget that are responses to fluctuations in SST as opposed to changes in SST resulting from changes in the radiative budget; the latter will occur on the response time of the system. The primary feedbacks involving water vapor and clouds occur on time scales of days [Lindzen et al., 2001; Rodwell and Palmer, 2007], while response times for relatively strong negative feedbacks remain on the order of a year [Lindzen and Giannitsis, 1998, and references therein]. That said, it is evident that, because the system attempts to restore equilibrium, there will be a tendency to underestimate negative feedbacks relative to positive feedbacks that are associated with longer response times.

Concluding Remarks

In Figure 3, we show 3 panels. We see that ERBE and model results differ

substantially. In panels a and b, we evaluate Equation (3) using ΔFlux for only OLR and only SWR. The curves are for the condition assuming no SW feedback and assuming no LW feedback in panels a and b, respectively. In panel a, model results fall on the curve given by Equation (3), because the model average of SW feedbacks is almost zero. In panel b, models with smaller LW feedbacks are closer to the curve for no LW feedback; the model results would lie on the curve assuming positive LW feedback. When in panel c we consider the total flux (i.e., LW + SW), model results do lie on the theoretically expected curve.

Looking at Figure 3, we note several important features:

1) The models display much higher climate sensitivity than is inferred from ERBE.

2) The (negative) feedback in ERBE is mostly from SW while the (positive) feedback in

the models is mostly from OLR.

3) The theoretical relation between ΔF/ΔT and sensitivity is very flat for sensitivities

greater than 2°C. Thus, the data does not readily pin down such sensitivities. This was

the basis for the assertion by Roe and Baker [2007] that determination of climate

sensitivity was almost impossible [Allen and Frame, 2007]. However, this assertion

assumes a large positive feedback.

Indeed, Fig. 3c suggests that models should have a range of sensitivities extending from about 1.5°C to infinite sensitivity (rather than 5°C as commonly asserted), given the presence of spurious positive feedback. However, response time increases with increasing sensitivity [Lindzen and Giannitsis,1998], and models were probably not run sufficiently long to realize their full sensitivity. For sensitivities less than 2°C, the data readily distinguish different sensitivities, and ERBE data appear to demonstrate a climate sensitivity of about 0.5°C which is easily distinguished from sensitivities given by models.

Note that while TOA flux data from ERBE are sufficient to determine feedback factors, this data do not specifically identify mechanisms. Thus, the small OLR feedback from ERBE might represent the absence of any OLR feedback; it might also result from the cancellation of a possible positive water vapor feedback due to increased water vapor

in the upper troposphere [Soden et al., 2005] and a possible negative iris cloud feedback involving reduced upper level cirrus clouds [Lindzen et al., 2001]. With respect to SW feedbacks, it is currently claimed that model SW feedbacks are largely associated with the behavior of low level clouds [Bony et al., 2006, and references therein]. Whether this is the case in nature cannot be determined from ERBE TOA observations.

However,more recent data from CALIOP do offer height resolution, and we are currently studying such data to resolve the issue of what, in fact, is determining SW feedbacks. Finally, it should be noted that our analysis has only considered the tropics. Following Lindzen et al. [2001], allowing for sharing this tropical feedback with neutral higher latitudes could reduce the negative feedback factor by about a factor of two. This would lead to an

equilibrium sensitivity that is 2/3 rather than 1/2 of the non-feedback value. This, of course, is still a small sensitivity.

see the full paper here (PDF)

h/t to Leif Svalgaard

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Mac
July 23, 2009 8:53 am

There is also this paper which is causing a stir.
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2009/2008JD011637.shtml

John
July 23, 2009 9:03 am

Lief/Anthony, it would be a great service if you were able to keep the WUWT readership informed about any serious critiques of this possibly seminal paper, either positive or negative.

timetochooseagain
July 23, 2009 9:07 am

“rather one needs to look at temperature variations that are long compared to the time scales associated with the feedback processes, but short compared to the response time over which the system equilibrates. This is also important so as to unambiguously observe changes in the radiative budget that are responses to fluctuations in SST as opposed to changes in SST resulting from changes in the radiative budget”
This is precisely what Roy Spencer has been saying-one needs to carefully assess what radiative changes are really feedback and which ones correspond to forcing from, say, natural changes in clouds.

July 23, 2009 9:46 am

3) The theoretical relation between ΔF/ΔT and sensitivity is very flat for sensitivities
greater than 2°C. Thus, the data does not readily pin down such sensitivities. This was
the basis for the assertion by Roe and Baker [2007] that determination of climate
sensitivity was almost impossible [Allen and Frame, 2007]. However, this assertion
assumes a large positive feedback.
This would seem to stick a fork in the Tanaka paper on Insufficient Forcing Uncertainty you posted a few days ago.

Robert Wood
July 23, 2009 9:49 am

It would be good to get hold of the whole paper.

Nogw
July 23, 2009 9:50 am

UN´s FAO forecasts only a variation of temperatures ranging from -0.1 to +0.1 degrees to the year 2099
ftp://ftp.fao.org/docrep/fao/005/y2787e/

Nogw
July 23, 2009 9:54 am

BTW The observed behavior of radiation fluxes implies negative feedback processes
This means one of two things: either the door of the greenhouse was open or there is no greenhouse at all!!
Truth is surfacing over…after a long history of “adjustments” and “corrections”.

Nogw
July 23, 2009 10:11 am

FAO study Abstract:
ABSTRACT
The main objective of the study was to develop a predictive model based on the observable correlation between well-known climate indices and fish production, and forecast the dynamics of the main commercial fish stocks for 5–15 years ahead.
Populations of the most commercially important Atlantic and Pacific fish species – Atlantic and Pacific herring, Atlantic cod, European, South African, Peruvian, Japanese and Californian sardine, South African and Peruvian anchovy, Pacific salmon, Alaska pollock, Chilean jack mackerel and some
others – undergo long-term simultaneous oscillations. Total catch of these species accounts for about 50% of total fish harvest over Atlantic and Pacific.
It was found that the dynamics of global air surface temperature anomaly (dT), although in correlation
with the long-term dynamics of marine fish production, is of poor predictive significance because of high inter-annual variability and a long-term trend. The Atmospheric Circulation Index (ACI), characterizing the dominant direction of air mass transport, is less variable and in closer correlation
with the long-term fluctuations of the main commercial stocks (r = 0.70-0.90).
Spectral analysis of the time series of dT, ACI and Length Of Day (LOD) estimated from direct observations (110-150 years) showed a clear 55-65 year periodicity. Spectral analysis of the reconstructed time series of the air surface temperatures for the last 1500 years suggested the similar
(55-60 year) periodicity. Analysis of 1600 years long reconstructed time series of sardine and anchovy biomass in Californian upwelling also revealed a regular 50-70 years fluctuation. Spectral analysis of the catch statistics of main commercial species for the last 50-100 years also showed cyclical
fluctuations of about 55-years

Bruce Cobb
July 23, 2009 10:18 am

Yes, but are methodologies “robust”?

July 23, 2009 10:27 am

Robert Wood (09:49:19) :
It would be good to get hold of the whole paper.
Link at bottom of article…

Richard M
July 23, 2009 10:48 am

Let me get this straight. The Chris de Freitas, et al paper accounts 80% of GW due to ENSO, the Goetz analysis accounts for 10% and now we know the sensitivity should be small. All of these would seem to put AGW in some serious trouble as well as explaining the recent cooling trend.
It will be interesting to see what discussion transpires.

Paul Linsay
July 23, 2009 10:52 am

The blackbody temperature of the equatorial oceans at high noon is approximately 181F=83C (flux = 1360 w/m^2, emissivity = 0.67). Add in the radiative effect of water vapor and they should be almost boiling. Of course the “feedback” is negative.

AnonyMoose
July 23, 2009 10:56 am

John (09:03:58) :
Lief/Anthony, it would be a great service if you were able to keep the WUWT readership informed about any serious critiques of this possibly seminal paper, either positive or negative.

Response times for negative feedbacks are expected to be short. 🙂

Allan M R MacRae
July 23, 2009 11:37 am

I recall from lots of prior work that “Climate Sensitivity” (to doubling of atmospheric CO2) is theoretically about 1 degree C with no feedback; AGW models assume significant strong positive feedbacks (which is false); and actual feedbacks are negative such that Climate Sensitiy is about 0.5C.
This latest paper by Lindzen et al is consistent with that conclusion.
There is less and less justification for alarm from increasing atmospheric CO2. The last ~decade of global cooling tends to disprove the AGW hypothesis.
If we were really truthful about the science, we would have to admit that we don’t even fully understand what is driving increased CO2 – could this too be partly or even mostly natural?
We know that CO2 lags temperature at all measured time scales – about 600 years in a cycle of about 100,000 years, and 9 months in a cycle of ~3 to 5 years.
We also know that during recent times of global cooling, 12-month CO2 increments have actually decreased – in some months in 1958, 1964, 1965, 1971 and 1974.
Will this happen again? Perhaps, we just have to wait to see what cooling brings.

July 23, 2009 11:56 am

Isn’t this what people like Dr Roy Spencer and Prof Bob Carter have been saying?
And don’t most people know 5 day forecasts are revised each day?

Brian B
July 23, 2009 12:07 pm

Wonder if RC & co will respond with positive or negative feedback and just how high their sensitivity will be.

timetochooseagain
July 23, 2009 12:09 pm

Richard M (10:48:24) :They explain 80% of the VARIANCE of tropospheric temperatures, which aren’t effected by John’s findings.
AFAIK there is a trend in the satellite data which, while small, doesn’t appear to be entirely an ENSO or volcano or combined effect-which MAY indicate a CO2 effect, but there are weird latitude variations. See:
http://www.pas.rochester.edu/~douglass/papers/E&E%20douglass_christy-color.pdf
Which basically agrees with Lindzen’s paper that the feedbacks don’t seem to be positive.

Nogw
July 23, 2009 12:15 pm

Allan M R MacRae (11:37:54) :
Will this happen again? Perhaps, we just have to wait to see what cooling brings.
For sure, low temperature increases CO2 solubility in water…but, for sure, increases wishes for “correcting” figures up or it will be explained as a consequence of “recently adopted” correct enviromental policies.

joshv
July 23, 2009 12:32 pm

So wait, when the earth gets hotter, it radiates more energy, not less. Shocker.

stumpy
July 23, 2009 12:57 pm

Excellent paper, it seems observation and common sense supports a negative feedback to warming as one would expect. As the sea warms, evaporation increases, more cloud cover forms and the clouds are white, blocking more of the incoming SW energy, hence the outgoing SW increase. You can see it happen with your own eyes in the tropics, it happens everyday! I only wish the RC team would do some model vs observation testing, rather than using their incorrect models to play down the suns role.
Unfortunetly I can hear them now….. “GRL will publish any old rubbish” “Lindzen works for big oil” regardless of what the hard data says, but Mann & Steig can fix that to.
The public and the media really need to understand that co2 doubling on its own is a small issue. The whole “big” issue is created by assuming a strong positive feedback. This is not supported by observation! Hence there is no solid science or certainty behind claims of 4 degrees warming etc…

Nogw
July 23, 2009 12:58 pm

joshv (12:32:51) :
So wait, when the earth gets hotter, it radiates more energy, not less. Shocker.

That’s what feedbacks are for…to send it back. 🙂
The truth is, that is usually called “rain”: when seas loses heat water evaporates and rain falls, and heat goes up, up and away..
There is not any greenhouse, up to now nobody has covered the earth with glass.

timetochooseagain
July 23, 2009 12:58 pm

joshv (12:32:51) : Not really-What’s “surprising” is that the release of additional energy is GREATER than the Planck response-meaning there is more going on here than just that basic physical property.
Incidentally, the planck response is part of the confusion many people have about positive feedbacks “runaway” warming, because if you consider the planck response a feedback, then even with strong positive feedback, the situation is not unconditionally unstable because the net feedback is, in engineering terms, weakly negative.
This situation can be seen if you were to graph hypothetical variations in radiation leaving the Earth (y axis) against temperature (x axis). If the follow a line with a slope greater than 3.3 W/m^2 that corresponds to negative feedback, less corresponds to “positive” feedback. A negative or zero slope in such a situation corresponds to unconditional instability and is unphysical. Note however that if a change in the radiation lost to space is the RESULT of a of a temperature change, corresponding to feedback and thus giving the slope of the sensitivity, but if it is a change of radiation which CAUSES the temperature to change, it will bias the slope downward. Lindzen alludes to this confounding factor and how to account for it, but the seminal work was done by Spencer and Braswell (2008).

SteveSadlov
July 23, 2009 1:17 pm

RE: Nogw (09:54:54) :
BTW The observed behavior of radiation fluxes implies negative feedback processes
This means one of two things: either the door of the greenhouse was open or there is no greenhouse at all!!
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There is a greenhouse. It’s just a very fancy greenhouse.

July 23, 2009 1:19 pm

Many thanks Lief and Anthony,

Gary Crough
July 23, 2009 1:20 pm

Richard S. Lindzen has always been skeptical of a positive global temperature feedback loop … as have scientists outside the AGW community. 3rd parties wonder why we would not get stuck in an ice age (or heat age) if feedback was positive.
Will this paper lead to revision of GW models? My guess: No.
My understanding is (1) the vast majority of CO2 is stored in the ocean and (2) CO2 has increased at a very consistent pace since the Mauna-Loa measurements started (pre-1960). In fact, the increases don’t seem to track industrial activity (reduced increases in a recession). Are these assumptions correct? If so, has any consideration been given to the possibility that current CO2 increases are mostly a reflection of the ocean/atmosphere re-establishing an equilibrium? (Ocean releasing CO2 very slowly because it is warmer?)

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