Flashback: More from the “weather is not climate” department.
NOTE: These are news stories about unusual July weather in Argentina from 2007 which I thought might interest readers. Please note these stories are not from 2009.
Picture: snow falls over the obelisk, in the center of Buenos Aires. From Clarin.
Killer Cold Snap Grips South America
Argentina’s capital, Buenos Aires, has seen snow for the first time in 89 years, as a cold snap continues to grip several South American nations.
Temperatures plunged to -22C (-8F) in parts of Argentina’s province of Rio Negro, while snow fell on Buenos Aires for several hours on Monday.
wait for it….
From Treehugger:
Snow in Buenos Aires: Was it Global Warming?
“It does not have to do with climate change, though climate change could have cooperated somehow by increasing humidity”.
Teleconnection perhaps?
from the BBC:
Buenos Aires residents came out on the streets to see the snow
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Argentina’s capital, Buenos Aires, has seen snow for the first time in 89 years, as a cold snap continues to grip several South American nations.
Temperatures plunged to -22C (-8F) in parts of Argentina’s province of Rio Negro, while snow fell on Buenos Aires for several hours on Monday.
Two deaths from exposure were reported in Argentina and one in Chile.
In Bolivia, heavy snowfall blocked the nation’s main motorway and forced the closure of several airports.
In Argentina, several provinces in the Andes have been placed under a storm alert, according to the national weather centre.
h/t to Ron de Haan
One of the most important cold spells to affect Southern Brazil in recent times brought record low temperatures, widespread and severe frost as well as snow to the region. On Thursday (July 12th), the state of Rio Grande do Sul was whitened by frost.
The freezing temperature was associated to the same air mass that prompted the first snowfall to the city of Buenos Aires (Argentina) in 89 years. Temperature in the city of Bage, state of Rio Grande do Sul, fell to minus 3,8 degrees Celsius, the lowest since 1955. Nearby, inside Uruguay, the national low in Mercedes was minus 6,6 degrees. At least three Uruguayans died in consequence of the cold temperatures. On Wednesday (July 11th), Porto Alegre, the state capital of Brazil’s southernmost state of Rio Grande do Sul, had one of its lowest ever recorded daily highs under clear sky conditions. The high only reached 9 degrees. In the following morning, the city awoke with frost inside the urban heat island, a rare fact not observed since July 14th 2000. The low temperature of 0,3 degree was the lowest since July 14th 2000. In the green areas of southern Porto Alegre, a 1.5 million inhabitants city, frost was intense and even the water has frozen in the ground. At midmorning ice could still be seen over cars parked in the streets.
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The high today in Rockford, Illinois is estimated to be 68 F.
Current temp 11:23 AM local time is 65F.
Impossible. Doesn’t that Argentinian snow know that the world has never been hotter than it is now?
More from Treehugger:
“… we can speak about ‘extreme phenomena’ that happen more often. Some examples are the droughts, flooding or the snow at unusual places that accompany the global warming process”.
And we wonder why we can’t have a serious debate with these people…
Snow in Buenos Aires is not in itself significant.
A large area of cold for a long period of time is significant.
The cooling phase of the oceans is coincident with a sun less active than for 100 years.
The air circulation systems are clearly nearer the equator than they were during the recent warming spell.
We can now say that a peak of warming has been passed and we must now wait to see what the Earth has in store for us.
Not a propitious time to engage in climate manipulation.
Ummm…. I recall reading this exact piece of news last year.
Maybe a Deja Vu?
Nope, It did happen two years ago.
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2007/07/09/um/m-01453873.htm
Sorry is in Cervantes’ tonge, but you can see the very same pic you use in this blog entry and the newspaper is dated 07 July 2007
http://www.elpais.com/yoperiodista/articulo/Periodista/Republica_Argentina/nieve_en_buenos_aires_congreso_de_la_nacion_argent/Nieve/Buenos/Aires/elpepuyop/20070709elpyop_7/Tes
Here is another one, also in Spanish, dated 10 July 2007
REPLY: Yes, please see the update. I had this on “schedule” intending to come back later and finish it while I’m waiting for a plane at the airport today. But after going to get a shower this AM discovered I had bungled the “schedule” feature and it was actually live. See the update from Metsul.
– Anthony
Didn’t it snow in Buenos Aires last winter ? I think that they now have had two succesive years of snow.
This is news from 2007…
Maybe the way they put their dates mislead you.
REPLY: Please see the update. I had this on “schedule” intending to come back later and finish it while I’m waiting for a plaine at the airport today. But after going to get a shower this AM discovered I had bungled the “schedule” feature and it was actually live. See the update from Metsul.
– Anthony
This cold spell also effected Brazil.
Anthony, maybe you should add this article to the current posting:
http://www.metsul.com/secoes/visualiza.php?cod_subsecao=32&cod_texto=858
Here is one from the Guardian in English.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jul/10/argentina.weather
Late April’s fool, Antony?
Please note that this report was from back in July 2007…
REPLY: Yes, please see the update. I had this on “schedule” intending to come back later and finish it while I’m waiting for a plane at the airport today. But after going to get a shower this AM discovered I had bungled the “schedule” feature and it was actually live. See the update from Metsul.
– Anthony
Doesn’t South America have poor temperature sensor coverage?
Then, depending on whether the cold hits key stations that are used to interpolate into the uncovered areas, this cold snap may not get the proper representation. On the other hand, maybe everything is good with the interpolation schemes and we’ll see uncovered SA areas cool off on the world temperature color charts
It seems also to snow here in Europe:
Austria, in some regions roads over mountain passes: compulsory snow chains on cars:
http://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/OTS_20090718_OTS0012
Just for the record, we have seen similar events last year.
Al Gore was right, expect cold in some areas and records to be broken. It’s just 70 here in Ky today and expected to get in the 50’s tonight. Gore was right, the cold is coming to all places of the earth. It’s all caused by CO2 and Global Warming!!!!
Well, this was 2 years ago but next Thursday morning something similar MAY
happen…But if the next snowfall after that occurs in 2099…STILL only weather…
Looks chilly:) Let me just add that to the list of first time in almost 100 year events we have been seeing on the cool side of weather lately.
“BBC: Last Updated: Tuesday, 10 July 2007, 09:27 GMT 10:27 UK ”
REPLY: yes, please see the update, this wasn’t a finished article and accidentally went live before it was finished. It is finished now. – Anthony
Is this a recyled news ? I hear about snow in Buenos Aires just one or two years ago.
Have I stepped back in time?
These articles are from 2007.
REPLY: Please see the update and other explanations in comments further up. I apologize for the confusion. – Anthony
I wish that snow will also fall in Manila and other cities near the equator. Even for just an hour… Then the warmers in our country will have nothing more to say.
I’ve come to the conclusion that our politicians are purposely ignoring the evidence that Anthropogenic Global Warming is a fraud. (Probably apparent to this audience for sometime).
I’ve written my Congressman several times highlighting the lack of correlation between CO2 and Temperature, decreases in hurricane activity despite increases in CO2, Arctic ice and Antarctic ice expansion, global sea ice at record levels, problems with surface station siteing, etc…… in a vain attempt to have him change his vote regarding Cap & Tax each time receiving a form letter thanking me for my “support” and indicating his “concern” for the “health” of the planet and his rationalization for supporting draconian regulation/tax increases to combat this mythological “climate” boogeyman.
In other words, THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT THE FACTS. They are hell bent on legislating control over citizen’s personal lifestyles and the means of production to fit their socialist model employing underhanded political tactics, agenda driven science, payoffs and deception to accomplish it.
This is not “right wing hyperbole” or scare mongering………government wrestling control over industry and our personal lives is happening right now despite the evidence that proves AWG is a sham. No doubt about it.
Strong words I know, but there is no disputing this now. Everyone has had the opportunity to do the research on their own and become informed.
Weather becoming Climate?
Snow in Brasil and Uraguay
5 Sep 2008 … What began in the morning as granular snow and sleet quickly became … that produced the first snow in Buenos Aires since 1918 last year. …
http://www.iceagenow.com/Snow_in_Brazil%20and%20Uraguay.htm – Similar
2007 – Other parts of the world
Historic snow in Buenos Aires – First snowfall since 1918!!!! And record winter in South America. Bariloche breaks cold record with MINUS 22ºC smashing …
http://www.iceagenow.com/2007_Other_Parts_of_the_World.htm – Similar
Record_Lows_2001
In Buenos Aires, snow fell for the first time since 1918. In Peru, 200 people died from the cold and thousands more became infected with respiratory …
http://www.iceagenow.com/Year_of_Global_Cooling.htm – Similar
In 2004 a working paper from the UK Tyndall Centre contained these observations:
“In this paper, we explore under what conditions belief in global warming or climate change, as identified and defined by experience, science and the media, can be maintained in the public’s perception.”
“As the science itself is contested, needless to say, so are the potential policy changes. So how then do people make sense or construct a reality of something that they can never experience in its totality (climate) and a reality that has not yet manifest (i.e. climate change)?”
“To endorse policy change people must ‘believe’ that global warming will become a reality some time in the future.”
“Only the experience of positive temperature anomalies will be registered as indication of change if the issue is framed as global warming.”
“Both positive and negative temperature anomalies will be registered in experience as indication of change if the issue is framed as climate change.”
“We propose that in those countries where climate change has become the predominant popular term for the phenomenon, unseasonably cold temperatures, for example, are also interpreted to reflect climate change/global warming.”
Thus did cold become hot and black become white.
“The Social Simulation of the Public Perception of Weather Events and their Effect upon the Development of Belief in Anthropogenic Climate Change”
http://www.tyndall.ac.uk/publications/working_papers/wp58_summary.shtml
All of a sudden Intellicast is forecasting for Wichita to be a bit cooler than normal for the last half of July, when we see temperatures around 93-94 for the high and the highest they’re forecasting is 91.
And guess the latest revision for their forecast for the high next Tuesday, a whopping 77 degrees, we still have a ways to go before the hot season is usually over though, though it may or may not get hot again.
Weather may be not climate, but apparently there’s reports of abnormal cold this month in both hemispheres, and then there’s El Nino (TAO site again) starting to look like it may end up struggling to stay alive later on or not making it another month and going *poof*
Anthony may have boo-booed slightly, but this has still been a cold winter in s America:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8146995.stm
“Children die in harsh Peru winter”
I think this was covered in WUWT, but I can’t find where.
What it does show is how cold weather kills more than hot weather – but of course, weather is not climate……