Dr. Judith Curry: ‘Michael Mann and the rest of that gang can go suck eggs’

Dr. Curry writes on Twitter:

Well I love the cartoon. And I applaud @RogerPielkeJr for continuing to fight the good fight. But I am so over this stuff.

The climate wars and attacks on scientists that challenge the mainstream narrative continue, but may be muted during the Trump regime (I admit I have lost touch with what is going on in academia, but I suspect things haven’t improved). Academia has suffered from the loss of myself, Pielke, others, not to mention the scientists that rejected the academic path or left very early on in their tenure.

While I will continue to set the record straight if I am asked (e.g. such as the DOE CWG), I’ve pretty much removed myself from the public debate on this topic (particularly after shutting down Climate Etc), apart from sporadic tweeting. In the meantime, I am working in the private sector (Climate Forecast Applications Network) which allows me to bypass all the BS of peer reviewed journal publication, government grant applications, and generally playing the game to build academic prestige. Academics waste a colossal amount of time on that stuff. Pielke is bypassing all that with his substack, sustaining his reputation and profile in the public debate.

I have taken a different path. I am bypassing all that by doing client-driven research to help companies and governments understand and manage their extreme weather and climate change risks (timescales from days to decades). I have done some path breaking work in this regard, which is to the great benefit of my clients but unknown to the broader academic community.

So Michael Mann and the rest of that gang can go suck eggs, their path to irrelevance grows with every passing day. It’s sad for academia and the education of the future generation of scientists. But the real action these days is in the private sector (e.g. the AI weather forecast models) and on social media.

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29 Comments
October 9, 2026 11:09 am

Keep up the good work Judith, your commentary is needed and welcome.

tmitsss
October 9, 2026 11:11 am

Not all heroes wear capes

joe-Dallas
October 9, 2026 11:20 am

Micky Mann was a prolific liar through out the legal proceedings agains CEI/NR/Steyn/Simberg.

His pleadings consisted of a nearly a hundred misstatements, His oral testimony, depositions, discovery likewise contained another hundred or so misstatements. That is without even counting his scientific work.

Seriously can you trust the scientists professional work when he perpetually lies about his personal life.

Reply to  joe-Dallas
October 9, 2026 2:00 pm

“can you trust the scientists professional work”

Yes.

MarkW
Reply to  Eldrosion
October 9, 2026 2:22 pm

Your standard is that any “scientist” who supports the party is reliable.

October 9, 2026 11:37 am

Academia has suffered from the loss of myself…

It may never recover… cough!

Tony Sullivan
Reply to  TheFinalNail
October 9, 2026 1:07 pm

I generally find it pointless to vote up/down on anyone’s comments, but you make it virtually impossible.

Derg
Reply to  TheFinalNail
October 9, 2026 1:54 pm

The good old days of scarring everyone are over. More and more are seeing the scam of global warming…I mean climate change…oops climate extinction.

MarkW
Reply to  Derg
October 9, 2026 2:23 pm

I believe you meant scaring, but scarring works as well.

MarkW
Reply to  TheFinalNail
October 9, 2026 2:22 pm

This from someone who considers Mickey Mann to be a scientist.

October 9, 2026 11:46 am

“Suck Eggs”

Teach not thy parent’s mother to extract
The embryo juices of the bird by suction.
That good old lady can that feat enact
Quite irrespective of thy kind instruction.

Erik Magnuson
October 9, 2026 11:56 am

I can’t blame Dr. Curry for being “so over this” with respect to the climate debate.

There’s a lot of interesting physics involved with the earth’s climate, but the discussion usually devolves into policy and name calling.

joe-Dallas
Reply to  Erik Magnuson
October 9, 2026 12:53 pm

fwiw – much of climate science is way over my paygrade. That being said, I do have sufficient math skills and background knowledge of the physical science to spot quite a lot of junk science
such as
gas stove causing 12% of asthma cases
cuts in USAID causing 14m deaths in 6 years
600k deaths in 6 months of 2025 caused by cuts in USaid
1 in 5 deaths caused by fossil fuel pollution.
Renewables are cheaper than fossil fuels
masking reduces the spread of covid

Each of those studies have serious flaws, yet those studies are worshipped inspite of the flaws. Same with much of climate science.

SxyxS
Reply to  joe-Dallas
October 9, 2026 2:00 pm

No math or physical science skills needed, just basic observation:

If renewables were cheaper than fossil fuels, then they’d have replaced fossil fuels longtime ago.
With 0 subsidies.
The need to tell everyone all the time how great and cheap it is is an admission that it is inferior, expensive crap.
Only a father with an ugly daughter needs to run around and tell everyone how great she is and provide a massive subsid…dowry on top.
A good looking daughter does not need propaganda and bribery.

Masks – if your fishingnet has 1 foot meshsize it won’t catch 1 inch fishes.
These rules also apply to Covid masks

Bruce Cobb
October 9, 2026 12:14 pm

Someday, hopefully soon, when the Climate Wars are over, with the Climate Realists winning and the Climate Liars skulking back to their lairs or dungeons, the actual science of climate can once more come to the fore, without all the CO2 garbage mucking it up.

Pat Smith
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
October 9, 2026 12:48 pm

Should this be true (as I devotedly hope it will be), the impact on science and science journalism will be huge. No one could look at themselves or their colleagues in the same way ever again. No member of the public could ever trust what a scientist said. It could be a new dark age.

Pat Smith
Reply to  Pat Smith
October 9, 2026 12:49 pm

Actually, this is wrong. It is a a dark age now.

Jeff Alberts
October 9, 2026 12:39 pm

No one writes on Twitter, it doesn’t exist.

Sweet Old Bob
October 9, 2026 12:49 pm

Story tip?

“statement from President Trump:

I have just concluded a highly successful discussion with President Vladimir Putin, of Russia, wherein it was agreed that Russia will immediately supply over 300,000 Tons of Diesel Fuel to the American and Global Marketplace, another 500,000 Tons during the month of November, and 1,000,000 Tons immediately thereafter.

Additionally, based on the condition of their Diesel Refineries, Russia will then deliver, within a short period of time, 3,000,000 Tons of Diesel Fuel.

Between our TOTAL CONTROL of the Strait of Hormuz, and this great announcement on Russian Energy, Diesel Prices for Americans and, indeed, the World, will be COMING DOWN, IN RECORD NUMBERS, AND FAST! Lower prices for Americans, especially our Great Farmers, Ranchers, and Truckers, is my Greatest Priority.”

On Truth Social ?

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
October 9, 2026 1:02 pm

Tip: AI generated spoof.

Sweet Old Bob
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
October 9, 2026 1:07 pm
SxyxS
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
October 9, 2026 2:28 pm

There is no and never was total US control of the Strait of Hormuz.
How can it be when the US fleet is 500 miles away?

“In the last 7 days Iran has struck more ships in the Strait of Hormuz, than ever before in a 7 day period”

Robert Pape on Breaking Point 3 hours ago.

Diesel consumption is roughly 30 mio barrels per day globally.
20% deficit as result of Hormuz/ Trumps Bibi War.

Let’s assume Trump for once tells the truth
Russias 1.8 mio tons * 7 = 12.6 mio barrels.= 40 % of daily diesel diesel consumption =
compensates for 2 days Hormuz deficit in 3 month.
That’s a drop in a bucket and less than zero if we take into account that Russia has banned her Diesel exports for quite some time now.
Therefore Russia is just compensating for her own oil sales deficit in recent month.

October 9, 2026 1:02 pm

Today, there are few meaningful, visible consequences for their reputations. Wait, did I hear “tarred and feathered”?

October 9, 2026 1:21 pm

Keep up the good fight, Judith. I applaud your independence, your courage to speak your mind, and your unwavering voice in the face of prevailing opinion.

What I find almost comical is the endless parade of teachers, lawyers, politicians, and other self-appointed authorities confidently proclaiming an inevitable climate apocalypse, as though professional credentials alone make them experts on climate science. The alarmist rhetoric rolls on, amplified by organizations and prominent national figures who seem remarkably adept at turning public anxiety into a powerful tool of persuasion.

These meetings and events often appear less concerned with encouraging critical thought than with rallying the public around a predetermined narrative. At best, the rhetoric stirs up needless alarm; at worst, it resembles a sales pitch designed to keep people fearful and compliant. The result? More public anxiety, less room for honest debate, and energy policies that can leave ordinary citizens footing an increasingly expensive bill.

October 9, 2026 1:58 pm

“So Michael Mann and the rest of that gang can go suck eggs, their path to irrelevance grows with every passing day.”

For someone who’s supposedly getting more irrelevant by the day, he sure seems to occupy your thought space.

MarkW
October 9, 2026 2:21 pm

In the future, scientists will consider this brief foray into government support/control of science to be a regrettable interlude in our march forward.