Essay by Eric Worrall
“That consensus has gone”
COP30: World leaders take aim at Trump for climate inaction
Esme Stallard, Climate and science reporter, BBC News
Matt McGrath, Environment correspondent, BBC News…
President Trump, who is not attending the meeting in the Amazonian city of Belém, was called a liar by the leaders of Colombia and Chile for his rejection of climate science.
UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer acknowledged the waning political support on climate change. He said it had been a unity issue internationally and in the UK but “today sadly that consensus is gone“.
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Many leaders from the world’s largest nations – India, Russia, US and China – are notably absent from this year’s summit.
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Only a few dozen leaders have turned up here in Belém, and a majority of countries have failed to submit new plans to cut carbon emissions, the root cause of rising temperatures.
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Despite Starmer acknowledging that global political support for the climate movement is waning, he told the gathering of those that were present: “My message is that the UK is all-in.“
However, on Wednesday night, in a blow to the Brazilian hosts, the UK chose to opt out of its flagship $125bn (£95bn) fund to support the world’s rainforests.
President Lula hoped that $25bn could be raised for the Tropical Forests Forever Facility from public sources – mainly from developed countries like the UK – to support governments and communities protecting the world’s rainforests like the Amazon and the Congo Basin.
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Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4j8dgnj1wo
I understand President Lula Da Silva’s climate angst. I mean, Lula went all out to throw big party, sent everyone an invitation, but hardly anyone bothered to show up. And the few that did show up drank all the beer without throwing enough cash in the tip box.
To be fair, maybe the weather in Belém deterred leaders of temperate countries. Belém is a steamy inland tropical jungle town just south of the equator, where even the night time temperature is in the mid 70s. Humidity rarely drops below 70%, and likely approaches 100% during rain showers. Not everyone likes that kind of weather.
Maybe next time COP is hosted in a South American nation, they should pick somewhere high up in the Andes, so participants can go for a stroll and look at a melting glacier. Somewhere like La Rinconada in Peru. Otherwise COP might degenerate into a cargo cult style gathering where only leaders of poor nations attend, hopeless gatherings of true believers gazing forlornly at the sky, hugging each other to keep the dream alive while waiting for the free money to drop from the heavens.
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Starmer’s there…the BBC is there…the Liar’s Club writ large…
Maybe they can cut deals for more wood pellets to haul and burn.
It’s only environmentally OK to clear vast tracks of southern US forest for wood chips. Burning the sacred Amazon Forest is forbidden.
But cutting them down to build a road to the venue……
Yeah, where did all those trees go? Stacked and burned?
Straight to the Exotic Wood Market for.sale to the rest of the world.
If Presidente Day Silva needs a “Fund” to save rainforest trees he should have thunk of that before chopping them all down for COP30 access.
“…waning political support on climate change.” Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me a hundred times and shame on Trump, because, you know, he’s doing that tipping point deal. Only the truly desperate will hang in there until ALL of the money is gone. Wait for it………
Some will continue to hang on regardless of the cash cow no longer lactating.
The grifters are on their last legs. Only the hopelessly brainwashed believe the lies anymore.
“Only the hopelessly brainwashed believe the lies anymore.”
That’s still a lot of people
“People go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.” ―( Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds 1841)
I’d have used the money that is being wasted to host 70000 activists and to built a highway.
A redirection of sinking-island-money would be the next step – and carbon capture money on top.
But I’m not a climate expert nor a notoriously criminal politician
The fat lady hasn’t sung yet but she’s clearing her throat.
The “mark” didn’t show up to the crooked poker game.
Who will Pay for President Lula da Silva’s COP30 Rainforest Fund?
If only he were better informed.
Not a single country has signed up to Sir Keir Starmer’s ‘clean power alliance’ since he launched it last year, according to The Times.
Starmer billed it as ‘bold’ initiative designed to boost renewable energy. It even featured in Labour’s manifesto.
Guido
Who indeed?
i propose a fund whose purpose is to fund all the other funds that keep coming. Call it the Fund Fund Fund. Still no money but easy to remember.
Maybe it should be the Fund Funds Fund, for clarity not charity.
So sorry but this might be the funniest COP of all. All hat and no cattle.
How about “The Bottom Feeders Fund”?
If these freeloading chicken littles want to be taken seriously they need to produce some proper science proving CO2 can cause runaway global warming. Up till now they have shown nothing, they just fly around the world preaching we are really smart and everyone should believe us and do what we say. To hell with that.
If there was any science proving, or even suggesting, that CO2 causes significant warming it would have been promulgated by now so I guess there isn’t any.
I take it you do not consider the billions of dollars in modeling science. The alarmists do. That is why we are here.
“My message is that the UK is all-in.“
No, we’re not all-in; we are done in
(definition: extremely tired or exhausted )
due to the stupidity of successive governments driving us into fuel poverty.
Britain’s public finances are so terrible that we can’t afford to fund anything. So the developing countries who signed up for the Paris Agreement because they were promised free money are likely to be disappointed.
Strangely when you blow insane amounts of cash trying to replace an existing commodity with a commodity which at best will provide the same benefit, you run out of cash. It doesn’t stimulate economic growth and wealth creation.
Apparently the Amazon is all dried up. Never been there but have known a few who have.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/nov/06/climate-crisis-amazon-lakes-water-temperature-hotter-than-spa-bath-aoe
“The shallow waters of Lake Tefé, which were only two metres deep, reached 41C – warmer than an average spa bath. “We couldn’t even put our fingers in the water. It was really hot, not just in the top bit, but right down to the bottom,” said the lead researcher, Ayan Fleischmann, from the Mamirauá Institute for Sustainable Development. “You put your finger in and remove it instantaneously, it’s unbearable.””
I don’t know what the temperature of a SPA would be but I have notes on measuring two salt ponds on the Texas coast with temperatures of 51 C and 39-42 C. The highest had a surface crust of salt, a real ‘greenhouse’ whose glass I broke to poke into the pink bacteria in the bottom. The common Texas sheepshead minnow, Cyprinodon variegatus lives in 43degrees.This could be a Story Tip but there is nothing new about the ‘wimps’ doing current research and at least they were in the field even not in Texas.
According to Ayan Fleischmann, from the Mamirauá Institute for Sustainable Development, as quoted in The Guardian in discussing the shallow waters of Lake Tefé, reaching 41C:
“You put your finger in and remove it instantaneously, it’s unbearable.”
For those without a calculator at hand, 41°C is 106°F.
And there are these facts:
— On 5 July 2018, the permanently inhabited city of Ouargla in Algeria (population of 133,024 in the 2008 census) was subject to an extreme temperature of 55°C (131°F), one of the highest figures ever recorded. All inhabitants did not leave the city because of that heat.
— Basra, Iraq, recorded a high of 53.9°C (129°F) on 22 July 2016. It matches the heat recorded in Kuwait just a day before. Basra is located on the Shatt al-Arab River within the Arabian peninsula with around 1.5 million people living in the city. People living in Basra bore up against that temperature.
— In July 2023, the National Weather Service station at Furnace Creek recorded a yearly high of 53.3°C (128°F). Air temperatures above 48.9°C (120°F) are extremely common in the Death Valley region during summer months. Average highs are in the region are about 43.3°C (110°F). Furnance Creek is inhabited year round with a 2020 census of 136 persons. And although currently a subject of debate, Furnace Creek holds the record for the highest recorded temperature in the world, reaching 56.7°C (134°F) on 10 July 1913.
— In January 1960, WMO recorded a highest temperature of 51°C (123°F) for Queensland, Australia. This record was again matched within 0.1 degrees Celsius in January 2024.
— The city of Delhi, India set its official highest recorded temperature in June 2024, with air temperatures running in excess of 50°C (122°F)
— On 10 July 1977, the World Meteorological Organization recorded a daily highest temperature of 48°C (118°F) in Greece. Nearly 50 years later, this remains the highest air temperature ever seen in continental Europe.
I could go on and on to demonstrate by facts that an air or water temperature of 41°C (106°F) is not at all “unbearable”, but need I?
So, if there anything that’s unbearable, it’s the amazing display of ignorance/sensationalism by one Ayan Fleishmann.
These COP conferences are slowly collapsing. From the outset we saw little more than talk and no action resulting from them. Now we’re seeing the top world leaders not bothering even to show up plus even fewer commitments to any climate mitigation funds. In addition, global surveys have been revealing that fewer and fewer citizens consider climate action any great priority and certainly won’t tolerate higher taxes, more laws and green mandates related to it. So if the supporters of these affairs were really honest about them, they’d give them up as a bad idea and quit wasting money on running to meetings that have had a three decades record of achieving next to nothing beyond proving that there is no climate crisis to begin with.
I would not call the trillions spent on heavily subsidized renewables nothing. Nothing good to be sure but not nothing. The alarmists point to them with pride.
Yet they insist on “throwing good money after bad.”
I gave at the office.
Even if the money turned up, I would reckon most of it would be carved off into private pockets. Brazil is not exactly known for its lack of corruption.
That would be quite a slush fund – nobody would notice a missing billion or two.
It reminds me of the Far Side cartoon of two spiders at the bottom of a playground slide, a fat boy hurtling towards their web – “It’s a long shot, but of this works we feast tonight!”
America, after Trump leaves office.
Is this to mean that the COP process has degenerated into a Cargo Cult? That term is from where Pacific Island peoples saw WWII U.S. military supply flights bringing in all sorts of food and other great stuff. Once the U.S. military withdrew the cargo flights stopped. Hoping to get the cargo flights to resume some of the islanders built crude runways and makeshift control towers and other outbuildings and went through the motions of calling in nonexistent cargo planes.
That worked just about as well as the COP hustlers’ current UN, NGO, beggar nations & etc. money scamming will pan out. With President Trump leading the way the climate money hustle is ending.
On the bright side, COPs haven’t had any effect.
You wouldn’t be channelling Trump there by any chance would you Chancellor?
Billions at stake: Chancellor Merz backs European patriotism for steel
More than half a million people in Germany are employed in roles linked to steel production — from suppliers to customers. Rising energy costs and low-priced imports have left the industry struggling to remain competitive.
Easy peasy just transition them all across to those wonderful future proof green jobs yo’all keep banging on about Chancellor?
From the above article (my bold emphasis added):
“UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer acknowledged the waning political support on climate change. He said it had been a unity issue internationally and in the UK but ‘today sadly that consensus is gone’.“
Hey, Kier, get a clue: nowhere, in any definition of The Scientific Method, is the word “consensus” to be found.
But politicians, bureaucrats, and AGW/CAGW alarmists don’t have any problems at all asserting “facts” not based on science.
The only sadness for me is in that sentence immediately above.