CLAIM: Climate change is supercharging Europe’s biggest hail

From Newcastle University and the “climate change causes everything” department, comes this “but models tell us so” bit of faux science without one single field measurement of hail size included. Of course, they used the highly flawed RCP 8.5 model to generate these headlines….because no other model would.

The Representative Concentration Pathway 8.5 (RCP 8.5) is now widely considered flawed and highly unlikely to represent a realistic “business-as-usual” scenario. It was originally designed as a worst-case scenario, but it was often normalized and treated as a probable outcome in climate research and media. 
More here. – Anthony


Warming may lead to less frequent but bigger and more devastating hail storms, new research has shown.

Climate experts from Newcastle University, the Met Office and the University of Bristol used European-wide km-scale simulations to model future changes to hail with global warming. Published in the journal Nature Communications, the findings show that, under a high-emissions scenario (RCP8.5), severe hail is likely to become less common, except potentially for very large hail.

Severe hail has a diameter of 2 cm, while a diameter of 5 cm or more is considered very large. Bigger hailstones cause more damage than smaller ones, and even a small increase in their size could outweigh any benefits from having fewer hailstorms overall.  

The researchers attribute this decrease to more than one factor. Hail forms higher in the atmosphere as it warms, where storm updrafts could be weaker, and this gives hail more time to melt before reaching the ground. Another factor is the weakening large scale circulation, affecting the vertical profile of winds and leading to environments not beneficial for thunderstorm organization.

Importantly, the authors found that future warm seasons feature a warmer thunderstorm type similar to hail-producing storms found in the tropics, where the largest hailstones can still reach the surface. The findings suggest that, in the future, these storms will become most frequent over southern Europe, leading to regional increases in severe hail frequency.

Study lead author, Dr Abdullah Kahraman, Senior Researcher in Severe Weather and Climate Change, School of Engineering, Newcastle University and long-term Visiting Scientist at Climate Processes and Projections (CPP), Met Office Hadley Centre, said: “Our findings indicate that the effects of climate change on severe thunderstorms are more complex than previously thought, and high-resolution models can produce results that differ significantly from earlier research. Society may need to prepare for less frequent, yet more damaging hail events locally, in a 5-degree warmer future.”  

Professor Lizzie Kendon, Head of Climate Projections at the UK Met Office and Professor of Climate Science at the University of Bristol, noted: “These results are very concerning. They imply we need to be prepared for tropical-type hailstorms impacting Europe in the future, associated with very large hailstones that can cause severe impacts. This possibility also extends to the UK, although the risk of hail here remains low into the future.”

Study co-author, Professor Hayley Fowler, Professor of Climate Change Impacts, Newcastle University School of Engineering, added: “As a society we need to be better prepared for unprecedented extreme events and this study shows that future storms in the Mediterranean could bring giant hail, with devastating impacts. Recent hailstorms have caused significant direct damage to properties and infrastructure, crops, and even aircraft!”

The team’s analysis shows that the possibility for very large hailstones decreases around Central Europe, and that it remains low over the British Isles and Northern Europe land areas. In contrast, it increases in Southern Europe in autumn and winter, balancing decreases in summer and spring.

The occurrence of warm-type thunderstorms in Southern Europe in a future warmer climate could amplify the impact of hailstorms in Italy and surrounding areas, with overall more frequent significant severe hail.

The authors acknowledge the uncertainty regarding the effect of enhanced melting associated with higher freezing levels on the largest hailstones. They recommend further studies of these warm thunderstorms to improve the understanding of their potential to produce very large and damaging hail at the surface.

Reference

Kahraman, A., Kendon, E.J., Fowler, H.J. et al. Future changes in severe hail across Europe, including regional emergence of warm-type thunderstorms. Nat Commun 16, 8438 (2025). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-025-62780-0


Journal Nature Communications DOI 10.1038/s41467-025-62780-0 

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September 27, 2025 11:39 pm

Models…. YAWN..

RCP 8.5…. ROFLMAO. !

These clowns are getting more idiotic by the day. !

Curious George
Reply to  bnice2000
September 29, 2025 7:36 am

Do models really predict .. pardon, project – hailstone size?

strativarius
September 28, 2025 12:02 am

The authors acknowledge the uncertainty

Well, that’s a start. The rest is for the fat trees

SxyxS
Reply to  strativarius
September 28, 2025 4:23 am

I’m still recovering from a fat male Twiggy,
let alone a body positive tree.

September 28, 2025 12:43 am

Begs the question, if the IPCC states 8.5 is highly unlikely, why don’t Nature Communications reviewers not toss out papers such as this?

Reply to  Redge
September 28, 2025 4:01 am

Begs the question, if the IPCC states 8.5 is highly unlikely, why don’t Nature Communications reviewers not toss out papers such as this?

Because the IPCC always provides a “cop-out clause”.

In the AR6 WG-I (The Scientific Basis) report there is a complete sub-section devoted to this, “4.8 : Low-likelihood, High-warming Storylines”, on pages 635 to 639, which ends with :

In summary, while high-warming storylines – those associated with global warming levels above the upper bound of the assessed very likely range – are by definition extremely unlikely, they cannot be ruled out.

Note that AR5 gave a “likely range” for RCP 8.5 in 2100 of 2.6 to 4.8 (degrees Celsius, mean = 3.7).

It doesn’t matter if the lead author stimulates the salivating journalists interviewing them with talk of what might happen “… in a 5-degree warmer future”, the IPCC has them covered.

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The AR6 WG-III (Mitigation) report’s version of the IPCC’s “cop-out clause” was (mainly) provided by FAQ 3.3, “How plausible are high emissions scenarios, and how do they inform policy?”, on page 386, which ends with :

All-in-all, this means that high-end scenarios have become considerably less likely since AR5 but cannot be ruled out. High-end scenarios (like RCP8.5) can be very useful to explore high-end risks of climate change but are not typical “business-as-usual” projections and should therefore not be presented as such.

The IPCC indirectly acknowledged that RCP8.5 is in the “counterfactual” range … if SSP5-8.5 and SSP3-7.0 are above the threshold, then so is RCP8.5; see section 1.6.1.4 of the WG-I report, “The likelihood of reference scenarios, scenario uncertainty and storylines”, page 239 … but as “Bill Toland” notes below it is “useful” to climate scientists to be able to get research funding grants approved.

If that means debasing “The Science” by generating “click-bait” media headlines then … so be it !

Bill Toland
September 28, 2025 2:17 am

“The authors acknowledge the uncertainty regarding the effect of enhanced melting associated with higher freezing levels on the largest hailstones. They recommend further studies of these warm thunderstorms to improve the understanding of their potential to produce very large and damaging hail at the surface”.

Translation: send us more money so that we can continue with this research. After all, we have families to feed.

Stephen Ireland
September 28, 2025 4:02 am

More bad news for the Spanish electrical grid

MarkW
September 28, 2025 7:43 am

If this were true, it would be the death knell for solar power.

drednicolson
Reply to  MarkW
September 28, 2025 9:18 am

They’re going to fight something that they say changes the weather by using power sources whose output, and even structural integrity, depends on the weather.

Sense, this does not make.

ResourceGuy
September 28, 2025 11:37 am

The First Strike Nuclear Climate Change Stupidity Option is a thing now. The arms race to net zero university research capability is here.

ResourceGuy
September 28, 2025 2:48 pm

The volume-based publication mill and promotion system is killing research in the West.

DipChip
September 28, 2025 2:55 pm

New papers are always necessary to justify big & bigger pay checks

Bob
September 28, 2025 4:10 pm

No government funds should go to climate change studies or global warming studies using the 8.5 pathway.

Sparta Nova 4
September 29, 2025 12:42 pm

I guess it’s too late. It is over. We are all doomed.

Larger hail stones mean more and more solar panels smashed and turban blades shattered.

We are all doomed.

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