Climate: Losing Politics (time to end the futile, wasteful crusade?)

From MasterResource

By Robert Bradley Jr.

Nat Cohn identified climate/energy transformation as a losing strategy in “Why Are Democrats Having Such a Hard Time Beating Trump?” (November 2, 2024). “Whatever happens Tuesday, it’s fair to say this campaign has not gone as smoothly as Democrats expected,” he stated in New York Times‘s The Tilt. Some quotations follow.

“How is Mr. Trump still so competitive? The simplest answer is that the national political environment just isn’t as conducive to a Democratic victory as many might imagine.”

“Trust in the media, ‘experts’ and scientists plunged. Younger Americans took to social media — perhaps with the help of algorithmic changes — to vent their frustrations with an aging president, high prices, lost opportunity and anger at a system that wasn’t working for them.”

“[Democrats] enacted much of this agenda over the last 16 years, but many voters still aren’t satisfied with the state of the country.”

“Inflation and high interest rates could be blamed on high government spending stimulating excessive demand. High gas prices could be blamed on suspending drilling permits and the termination of the Keystone pipeline project.”

“The party championed a tough response to the virus…. It … sought to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and spent trillions on stimulus. As the pandemic ended, all of this quickly became a liability.”

“On issue after issue, Democrats have responded by moving to the right. Most obviously, Ms. Harris had to back away from positions she took when the progressive cultural ascendancy was near its peak in 2019 — a ban on fracking …. But the Democratic shift isn’t simply about backing away from positions taken during a Democratic primary. Across the board, Democrats have de-emphasized policies they preached with confidence to a general electorate only a few years ago.”

If Kamala loses, the recriminations will be fast and furious. And the Green New Deal is part of the problem, the subject of yesterday’s post. If Kamala wins, she will be the most unpopular president on Day One. But will her Progressive Left even notice? Or will they race down the road to serfdom as if getting there will bring propensity and stability?

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November 5, 2024 10:06 pm

My only worry with Trump’s energy policies is his cozying up to Elon. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him get some new subsidies to prop up his tax-payer-funded EV company.

Scissor
Reply to  Tommy2b
November 5, 2024 10:38 pm

Green No Deal.

Reply to  Scissor
November 5, 2024 11:19 pm

I hope so… but

“Elon Musk appeared gleeful about the prospect of gaining influence over the federal government during a potential Donald Trump presidency.
He posted a photoshopped image of himself carrying a sink into the Oval Office, adding, “Let that sink in.” It’s a reference to when he took over Twitter, now X, and began shaking up operations at the social media company.
Trump has said Musk, the world’s richest man, would help him streamline government.”

Reply to  Tommy2b
November 6, 2024 5:32 am

There are multiple government agencies at several levels of governance specifically working to STOP Musk.

The giant budget allocation to build out rural broadband internet coverage was halted when Starlink became the cheapest and most effective choice for almost the entire target area.

The California Coastal Commission specifically wanted to stop his launches due to his political stances.

He could certainly be gleeful to “gain influence” if that merely gets his companies back to a neutral stance as regards government interference and obstruction.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Tommy2b
November 6, 2024 5:47 am

Trump is for competition in business. Musk has built a company that, much like Apple, has an inferior product but has a large cult following. Trump will let Musk use his marketing skills to sell Tesla vehicles.

Duane
Reply to  Tommy2b
November 6, 2024 7:52 am

Musk came out in opposition to EV subsidies several years ago.

November 5, 2024 10:36 pm

Currently AP has Trump with 247 Electoral votes vs 214 for Harris

Trump is 3 or more % ahead in PA, WI, MI, NV, and AK (reasonably high vote counts) and marginally ahead in AZ

Trump could end up with 311 electoral votes. 🙂

Republican already have 51 in the Senate so only need one more a majority (Kamal 42)

And are well ahead in the House.

Scissor
Reply to  bnice2000
November 5, 2024 10:42 pm

270! Yay.

Reply to  Scissor
November 5, 2024 11:11 pm

I’m going to say 301, with maybe +11 from Arizona 🙂

Reply to  bnice2000
November 6, 2024 1:02 am

Arizona looking more and more likely. 🙂

gezza1298
Reply to  bnice2000
November 6, 2024 10:30 am

Democrats might not bother with their printed additional votes this time as they have already lost.

Reply to  bnice2000
November 5, 2024 10:43 pm

Yeah, it looks like 311 is the probable number for Trump. Right now it’s minutes away from being called. Even looks likely he wins the popular vote for the first time.

Reply to  Tommy2b
November 5, 2024 10:58 pm

Data I can see says Trump is up 5 million on the popular vote

Reply to  bnice2000
November 5, 2024 11:01 pm

That will narrow. The west coast (latest reporting) is blue. But yeah, that lead is pretty insurmountable.

Reply to  Tommy2b
November 6, 2024 12:57 am

Not sure about that.. 73% counted and Trump is now 5.2 million in front

Reply to  bnice2000
November 5, 2024 10:46 pm

Sorry… AK only has 26% vote count… but is running 57% to Trump.

Reply to  bnice2000
November 5, 2024 10:48 pm

Not a chance AK is going blue.

Reply to  Tommy2b
November 5, 2024 11:05 pm

I sort of gathered that, but count is still low. 🙂

November 5, 2024 10:39 pm

On issue after issue, Democrats have responded by moving to the right.”

NO! They only SAY things that MAKE IT LOOK LIKE they have moved to the mid-left rather than the very-far-left

Editor
Reply to  bnice2000
November 5, 2024 11:21 pm

NO! (But a different No): They resonded by workong even harder for themselves instead of seeing what the American people needed.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  bnice2000
November 6, 2024 6:00 am

Remember Robin Williams in Man of the Year?
During a debate he went off (as Williams does in his comedy routines) and after making several anecdotal (and humorous) comments declared that what we needed was real security, not the illusion of security. Funny thing is he was talking about the border.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
November 6, 2024 7:28 am

Totally OT, but since you mention Robin Williams: I worked with him (as a stand-in) on “Father’s Day” – they made him do at least one take on script, then let him go. The finished film used almost all his ad-lib instead of the scripted takes.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Tony_G
November 6, 2024 10:06 am

What a story!

Dave Fair
November 5, 2024 10:46 pm

10:45pm West Coast. Trump currently 267. He only needs Alaska’s 3 to win. He is also winning the popular vote. Senate will be at least 51 Republican. Republicans are projected to hang on with small majority in House.

Reply to  Dave Fair
November 5, 2024 11:00 pm

I only have 248..

They must have called Pennsylvania for Trump, not showing a call yet on my screen.. but obviously should be. 🙂

Scissor
Reply to  Dave Fair
November 5, 2024 11:01 pm

Time to “Dream Big Again!”

Dave Fair
Reply to  Scissor
November 6, 2024 7:48 am

Bigley!

Reply to  Dave Fair
November 5, 2024 11:39 pm

Yes, the polls got it totally wrong. Its bordering on a landslide. My own intuition also got it totally wrong. Not at all on the knife edge as the polls predicted. Culture war implications too, and not just for the US.

Reply to  michel
November 6, 2024 12:12 am

yeah, overwhelming enough that there hopefully won’t be any recounts or other madness that drags on for weeks.

Reply to  Tommy2b
November 6, 2024 12:59 am

Yes, I think its unlikely that this will be legally challenged. There are however non federal charges hanging over trump that he cant cancel.

Reply to  Leo Smith
November 6, 2024 1:14 am

FAKE charges. !

Scissor
Reply to  bnice2000
November 6, 2024 7:15 am

Trump must be feeling somewhat unburdened by what has been, however.

sturmudgeon
Reply to  Scissor
November 6, 2024 10:23 am

Thank you. I have seen that crapola in print, but have never been able to stomach her ‘live’.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Leo Smith
November 6, 2024 5:54 am

Those will be dropped as they can’t stick in the long run and he can’t run for election again. All of his losing court cases will be dropped on appeal.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  michel
November 6, 2024 5:53 am

The polls assume that union members will all vote for Dems. Union members this year voted for Trump just like in 2016. The numbers aren’t final yet, but Joe Biden’s 81 million votes in 2020 are way ahead of what would be expected based on the turnout this year and the fact that COVID-19 kept many people from the polls.

sturmudgeon
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
November 6, 2024 10:25 am

Read Sundance’s analysis on the ‘votes’ this year, compared to 2020.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  michel
November 6, 2024 6:02 am

I have to wonder if the polls were manipulated in those reportedly close “battleground” States to give the illusion of a close race so as to not discourage Democrat voters.

Ok. A conspiracy theory, but nonetheless….

KevinM
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
November 6, 2024 1:27 pm

That’s a problem I don’t understand, the same error has persisted for all the elections I remember – there should be more than enough data to identify and fix the obvious polling bias. Yet the polls seem universally not to identify it and fix it. You are not alone in wondering what conspiracy is there.

Editor
November 5, 2024 11:19 pm

To my mind, it’s dead simple, and exactly what happened in the UK: the incumbents worked only for themselves and not for the people. It didn’t matter who the opponent was, they had to go.

Reply to  Mike Jonas
November 6, 2024 12:51 am

yep the choice between the Devil and the deep blue Sea…you next Tuesday…
…has led to the abandonment of all – even mild – wokeish policies.
Good for energy. Not so good for Ukraine.

Reply to  Leo Smith
November 6, 2024 3:49 am

I bet Trump will continue to support Ukraine.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
November 6, 2024 5:56 am

He will work to end the war. Russia does not have a strong economy and Trump can flood the market with natural gas and oil to reduce Russia’s income.

Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
November 6, 2024 6:04 am

He can’t end the war. All he can do is end US support, but the majority of Americans want to continue with that support along with the military. And, Ukraine isn’t going to give away its land. It’ll continue to fight- and if US support ends, European support may get stronger. I don’t know what Trump can offer the Russians to end their invasion. It’s going to be a difficult as “peace in the Middle East”. Unless Putin falls out a window- the preferred option for almost everyone, even most Russians.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
November 6, 2024 7:31 am

He can’t end the war.

I think he’ll be better able to help negotiate a cease-fire, even if not a peace. I’m certain he’ll at least try more than the current admin.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
November 6, 2024 7:51 am

Yet President Trump was able to broker the Abrahams Accord in the Middle East while Leftist ideologues couldn’t.

KevinM
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
November 6, 2024 1:29 pm

the majority of Americans want to continue with that support
How do you know?

sturmudgeon
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
November 6, 2024 10:27 am

You are incorrect regarding Russia’s economy, accordiing to some “on the ground” reports. Sundance’s travels through Europe is only one example. Russia is doing fine.

Reply to  sturmudgeon
November 6, 2024 12:24 pm

There are a lot of economists saying Russia isn’t doing great. Their economy is pumped up producing weapons- which is a bad investment. Inflation is roaring- and interest rates are now up to 21%. Their population is going to crash.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Leo Smith
November 6, 2024 6:03 am

It is quite within the realm of possibilities that Trump has a level on Putin he can pull to get Russia to back out.

sturmudgeon
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
November 6, 2024 10:29 am

Did you mean “lever”.?

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  sturmudgeon
November 6, 2024 12:49 pm

Yes. Lever.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
November 6, 2024 12:27 pm

I think the solution is to say we’ll give Russia all its money back now in western banks- and drop all sanctions- if they pull out of Ukraine completely. Probably a lot more the west can do to sweeten the deal. But, Ukraine will be able to join NATO. And, we won’t ask Russia to pay for the damage to Ukraine. I expect to get a Noble Peace Prize for these ideas. 🙂

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
November 6, 2024 12:56 pm

My thoughts are similar but a bit more expansive.

Russia pulls out and stops attacking and the sanctions go away.
Russia also overturns those illegal annexation laws.
Include a pathway to EU and NATO for Russia & Belarus as well.
Return of the Ukrainian kids in exchange for release from reparations.
Ukraine legalizes the Russian language.

But the stick also needs to be big.
Not agree and see US/NATO boots on the ground and air strikes in Russia (military targets only).
Don’t bother your nuclear saber rattling. Most of Russia’s do not work and the US is more than capable of wiping Russia from the map.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
November 6, 2024 1:14 pm

I agree! Big carrot and big stick. Trump is a big enough character to do this- the Democrats simply couldn’t think that way.

November 6, 2024 12:22 am

French “journalist” Anne-Sophie Lapix asked opposition leader Jordan Bardella how he would pay, if he was in power, for the expulsion “OQTF” (Obligation de quitter le territoire français), the many dangerous people who are illegally in France (many of which are involved in gruesome murders).

Because, in the age of low cost air travel, putting a person in plane to the other side of the Mediterranean sea is too complicated and costly.

But redoing all the modern society, all the industry, the energy grid, the transportation system, the chemical industry, that’s just of bunch of technical issues and some “efforts” by the populace: it’s like climbing stairs, one step at a time said Pierre Radanne, the former ADEME president on “France 5” some years ago (ADEME = the official French organization of ecolunacy).

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  niceguy12345
November 6, 2024 5:57 am

One plane trip is cheaper than years of Medicaid and welfare. Trump will send them back.

KevinM
Reply to  niceguy12345
November 6, 2024 1:33 pm

Where do you send them if the receiving party says no?

Dave Fair
Reply to  KevinM
November 8, 2024 3:50 pm

Pay shithole countries to take them.

expublican
November 6, 2024 12:35 am

I love the smell of leftists heads exploding in the morning!

Reply to  expublican
November 6, 2024 12:48 am

Going to be hilarious watching Rita’s “Lefties Losing It” over the next few weeks 🙂

Reply to  bnice2000
November 6, 2024 3:33 am

I often watch her stuff on YouTube. 😄

strativarius
November 6, 2024 12:37 am

Meet David Lammy our uber thick foreign secretary…

David Lammy has defended calling Donald Trump a neo-Nazi sociopath, saying all politicians had something to say about the former US president “back in the day”.
https://news.sky.com/story/foreign-secretary-david-lammy-defends-calling-trump-a-neo-nazi-sociopath-13180153

Oh dear

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  strativarius
November 6, 2024 6:02 am

Never heard of the guy, but who cares what he says? The UK can continue digging it’s grave. We in the US will be leading the way to a better world for all those who want to join in.

November 6, 2024 12:42 am

I am SO ENJOYING watching the victory speeches from Trump Vance and others. 🙂

Sitting here with a nice Barossa red, with, and after some Cajun spiced eye fillet 🙂

A Trump win means SO MUCH not just for the USA, ..

… but also for countries all around the world.

It is going to be hard work getting the USA and rest of the world back on track,

… but they have the team to do it.

Well done USA.. rational thought wins !!

strativarius
Reply to  bnice2000
November 6, 2024 12:49 am

Labour is worried about… the climate now Trump has won!

Reply to  strativarius
November 6, 2024 12:58 am

Alarmists are always worried about the climate. And the solution is always: give us more $ and power.

strativarius
Reply to  Tommy2b
November 6, 2024 1:16 am

Will he pull out of Paris again?

I hope so

Reply to  strativarius
November 6, 2024 3:36 am

This time he should give it to the Senate for a proper complete rejection. It is an international TREATY no matter what deceptive label they use for it.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  strativarius
November 6, 2024 6:05 am

If he follows through on his campaign statements he will.

Reply to  strativarius
November 6, 2024 1:18 am

You mean UK Labour. The total losers and intellectual zeros that somehow the UK people elected because the Tories went nearly as far retard-left ?

strativarius
Reply to  bnice2000
November 6, 2024 2:43 am

The UK system isn’t democratic. You should read up on it sometime and understand how it works in practice.

Hint: Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour got 3 million votes more than Starmer’s Labour and Corbyn lost bigtime to Boris Johnson…

Reply to  bnice2000
November 6, 2024 12:52 am

ps.. only 8pm here.

Hoping they call Wisconsin, Nevada, Michigan, Alaska, and even Arizona for Trump in the next couple of hours.

312 ! 🙂

Reply to  bnice2000
November 6, 2024 12:56 am

I wouldn’t celebrate too early. No one knows which way policy will go after the win. The only constant in politics is that politicians always break their promises.
Wasn’t there supposed to be a wall across the South to keep Mexicans out last time?

Reply to  Leo Smith
November 6, 2024 1:16 am

Covid stalled the construction.. Trump used leverage on the Mexican government instead.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  bnice2000
November 6, 2024 6:05 am

COVID-19, the Never Trumpers and the Democrats stalled it last time. This time is will go through. As Trump said last night “Promises made will be promises kept.”

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Leo Smith
November 6, 2024 6:08 am

Wasn’t Biden a “transition” candidate, one term?
Don’t know what Harris is for or against, except making the right to kill babies a Constitutional Right. Then there are her values that don’t change even though her policies change more frequently than most people change their socks.

Reply to  bnice2000
November 6, 2024 6:37 am

The usual suspects on WUWT haven’t shown up yet to claim that DJT actually lost the election.

Reply to  karlomonte
November 6, 2024 7:34 am

The usual suspects

Anyone call in a welfare check yet?

Reply to  Tony_G
November 6, 2024 8:04 am

Somewhere the democrats lost 20 million votes, no one can figure it out.

sturmudgeon
Reply to  karlomonte
November 6, 2024 10:33 am

Sundance explains it.

November 6, 2024 1:45 am

Going to be the end of net zero, isn’t it? If its over in the US, its over. Miliband is going to be totally out on a limb. It will not just be an end of net zero, either. It may be an end of critical race theory and gender madness too. What is really interesting is that this time Trump seems to have won the popular vote, as well as Senate and Congress. Tough to argue with a swing of that scale and type.

He is quite capable of boycotting COP, and if he does the whole thing will collapse. And as for EVs, now?

Reply to  michel
November 6, 2024 2:25 am

There could still be countries like Canada and the EU giving handouts to less developed countries for ‘climate reparations’, but I think that will be the extent of the silliness

Reply to  michel
November 6, 2024 2:50 am

Trump should stop funding to the bloated bureaucracies of UNFCCC, the UN COP and especially the IPCC. This will save US many millions of dollars. He could use the savings to build “The Wall”!

Reply to  Harold Pierce
November 6, 2024 3:38 am

Yes x1000

observa
Reply to  michel
November 6, 2024 3:16 am
Reply to  observa
November 6, 2024 3:39 am

Good, let them all pull out. The whole thing needs to come crashing down like a house of cards.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  observa
November 6, 2024 6:11 am

Too bad they do not know the reality, the actual science.

Dave Fair
Reply to  observa
November 6, 2024 8:02 am

“… while our people suffer the devastating consequences of climate change,” he said.”

What, exactly, are those “devastating consequences?” Table 12.12, P. 90 in Chapter 12, WGI Scientific Basis of the UN IPPC’s AR6 shows no worsening of extreme weather globally.

observa
November 6, 2024 2:19 am

“How is Mr. Trump still so competitive?”

The Democratic Party and their caravan of MSM flunkies gaslighted Americans that Biden was fit and competent to be their President for the next 4 years. Seriously? When Trump stated in the debate ‘I don’t know what he’s talking about and I don’t think he does either’ their ridiculous facade was finished.

Panic! Quick where’s our replacement candidate? The answer was any Dem with a brain ran a mile from picking up that poison chalice at such a late stage and that only left the DEI hire picked to make sleepy joe look good until she actually did look better. The Dem apparatchiks and deranged cult media did the best they could with gigglepot gobbeldegook while any other serious candidate was likely thinking at least Trump has to relinquish the Presidency in 4 years.

OTOH not one iota of that really matters and it’s all about the price of groceries with the border schemozzle thrown in for good measure. One thing’s for sure with only 4 years to kick butt and the experience of the lefty beltway Trump won’t be wasting time on any niceties with those in his way with the cleanout and welcome to interesting times. If nothing else Elon heading the Department of Govt Efficiency. Chuckle.

Reply to  observa
November 6, 2024 2:56 am

Trump should purge the EPA of the greenie control egomaniacs.

Reply to  Harold Pierce
November 6, 2024 3:41 am

YES! IMMEDIATELY and COMPLETELY.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Harold Pierce
November 6, 2024 6:15 am

Get NIH back to its charter. Dept. of Ed.? A lot to do. IRS? Get rid of those 80,000 hired to deal with tax on tips. DoD? Purge the woke and DEI. The military absolutely needs to focus on readiness, not who pays for an abortion for a wife of a serviceman. (Maybe have a class on contraceptives?) Get Duty, Honor, Country back in the academies. Get merit back in the Secret Service (another DEI purge).

It is one thing too eliminate unjust discrimination. It is totally different to create it in the name of “equity.”

Reply to  observa
November 6, 2024 11:12 am

As long as democrats continue to believe that certain DEI groups are “deserving” of their nominations based only on abortion, gender, color of their skin or past history of association, they will never field younger candidates who can win.

strativarius
November 6, 2024 2:49 am

How is The Guardian taking the news?

Today is a day of despair for America. We are plunged into an anticipatory grief
Moira Donegan
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/06/trump-wins-election-consequences-despair-america

Fear triumphs over hope as Trump wins the presidency – how did it happen?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/06/how-trump-won-us-election-president

Trump calls media ‘the enemy camp’ in speech declaring victory
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/06/trump-media-enemy-camp-speech

Not very well.

observa
Reply to  strativarius
November 6, 2024 3:24 am

Elon would be happy to pull taxpayer funding from the deranged old bags on The View etc wouldn’t he? Sing for your supper lefties or your audience would be happy with subscriptions wouldn’t they? That’s fascism for you isn’t it ladies. LOL

Reply to  observa
November 6, 2024 7:38 am

Elon would be happy to pull taxpayer funding

Ron Paul asked to be part of that and Elon accepted. Will Department Of Government Efficiency (DOGE) be the official name of that effort?

KevinM
Reply to  Tony_G
November 6, 2024 1:44 pm

Please no. Every job created by the team you like will someday be filled by someone on the team you don’t like.

Reply to  KevinM
November 6, 2024 2:13 pm

I agree at least in general, Kevin. I was joking about the name – that’s what Elon called it, and I’m pretty sure DOGE was intended as a joke. (If you don’t get it look up doge)

I don’t think it’s going to be an actual “department” of government, more like a special appointment for a limited time. We’ll know for sure pretty soon.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  strativarius
November 6, 2024 6:23 am

I did not know The Guardian was a US media platform?

What a load of crap? The “deadly insurrection on Jan. 6?” The only person who died was a white woman outside the capital shot by a black police officer through a window.

Those junk opinion pieces are absolute proof that many media outlets are the enemy.

If the majority of American voters selected Trump, how great can the despair for America be? Perhaps the One World Order socialist followers funded by Soros, but not many beyond that. The rest will get up, have breakfast and go to work.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
November 6, 2024 8:06 am

With a smile on their faces and a spring in their step.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Dave Fair
November 6, 2024 10:11 am

I did.

sturmudgeon
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
November 6, 2024 10:48 am

The USA has had many years of examples (millions) of folks who are unable or unwilling to incorporate Critical Thinking into their lives. Based upon the number of votes K and the Left received after the indefatigable efforts of PJDT and others, I disagree. There will be no ‘letup’ by the Left.

Reply to  strativarius
November 6, 2024 11:36 am

Funny how they all hate democracy when they lose.

sherro01
November 6, 2024 3:11 am

She lost.
Geoff S

Reply to  sherro01
November 6, 2024 3:43 am

Bigly.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  sherro01
November 6, 2024 6:24 am

No. Wrong. SHE WAS FIRED!

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
November 6, 2024 6:49 am

America is now unburdened by what has been 🙂

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  stevekj
November 6, 2024 10:12 am

Not yet. Every journey begins with a first step.

Sparta Nova 4
November 6, 2024 5:45 am

But her “values…”

Sparta Nova 4
November 6, 2024 5:48 am

Anyone remember Roosevelt’s New Deal?
Seems that lesson from history was ignored with the Green New Deal.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
November 6, 2024 6:10 am

The New Deal launched the Great Depression. The Green New Deal was on it’s way but it will be stopped on January 20th.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
November 6, 2024 10:12 am

True. Neither did anything but put the country in debt.

JC
November 6, 2024 6:23 am

Approximately, 7% of the voters in the US thought climate change was a key issue. And even a lot of Dems think EV’s are rip-off in all directions.

So WUWT can shed it’s political battle garb and get back to full time science and be the science blog that it is. YEAH!

The fringe that was catapulted into the mainstream is now the sunset of infamy.

Geez I get to buy a new gas stove and keep driving my 2001 Mercury Sable Yippie!!

0perator
November 6, 2024 7:32 am

Harris/Walz delivered on their promise of joy. Schadenfreude supreme.

Reply to  0perator
November 6, 2024 8:10 am

Kackles can now shuffle off back to Kookifornia and collect her taxpayer-paid pension, while the Don of the Biden Crime Syndicate can head for the rest home.

JC
November 6, 2024 8:31 am

With the enivitable results of this election, it’s clear that even with a no holds barred propapanda campaign; fear mongering babble about climate change or a New Green Deal will never win national election. Stick a fork in it.

The giddy days of the pandemic with Biden winning the presidency, puffed up a cadre of elitist left woke-green revolutionaries . Yet now for the majority of the county, a dark cloud has lifted. Even those who voted for Harris will feel it as the country lightens up and gets back to work pulling ourselves out of the quagmie we have been in since March 2020.

I suspect there are people associated with the pandemic: CDC, NIH, WHO, and Johns Hoplins school of public health etc, who are a bit anxious this morning. We have seen only the tip of the iceburg.

0perator
Reply to  JC
November 6, 2024 10:41 am

Everyone involved with Event 201 should go before a tribunal.

sturmudgeon
Reply to  JC
November 6, 2024 10:53 am

The garbage pickup must be done quickly so that it doesn’t get scattered all over the Country again.

KevinM
November 6, 2024 1:17 pm

Inflation and high interest rates could be blamed on high government spending
Should have been reversed
high government spending could be blamed on prior deflation danger and low interest rates

For a while it cost nothing for government to borrow, so they did, and they got used to it.