Michael E Mann, the Black Knight

A note before this post. Hurricane Helene is an extremely serious storm and is devasting/will devastate a large part of the Florida Panhandle and more, Georgia, and elsewhere. Still, in the midst of tragedy, humor may also be found.


Our dearly beloved Michael Mann insists his 2024 hurricane forecast is spot on and he continues on to victory. Bless his heart.

Mann Hurrican prediction

The original prediction.

Mann Hurrican prediction

By late September, an average season has typically produced about 8-9 named storms. We’ve had nine so far.

An average full Atlantic hurricane season produces about 14 named storms total.

September alone accounts for nearly 30% of a season’s named storms on average. Counting the most recent, Isaac, we’ve had four so far in September.

Here is the full Black Knight Scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

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Alexy Scherbakoff
September 26, 2024 2:09 pm

Night or Knight?

Bryan A
Reply to  Charles Rotter
September 26, 2024 3:49 pm

Hard to beat a good python skit.
Don’t think I’ve ever seen a bad one either

Reply to  Bryan A
September 27, 2024 4:30 am

That one had me laughing hysterically for ten minutes. My wife thought I was losing it!

Reply to  Bryan A
September 27, 2024 11:13 pm

John Cleese was instrumental at filming a number of business training films.
They are just as hilarious and drive home points most business persons should know..

Due to HR pettiness, I was only able to purchase their video about “Meetings”.

Reply to  Charles Rotter
September 26, 2024 4:54 pm

Not bad, first “oooopsie” of the year comes late in September….good work.

Reply to  Charles Rotter
September 27, 2024 11:16 pm

The first real oopsie I’ve seen.

I echo TEWS-Pilot with joy, Well done Charles!

Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
September 26, 2024 3:19 pm

If someone is listening to Michael Mann predictions … then it is a black night indeed.

Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
September 26, 2024 4:51 pm

Any time spent with Michael Mann would be a Black Night.

Tom Halla
September 26, 2024 2:09 pm

Mann “jumped the shark” with MBH98, and went full in for advocacy, not science.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Tom Halla
September 27, 2024 9:45 am

He has done quite well by kissing the asses of Leftist/Socialist/Marxists climate liars at the UN and U.S. Deep State.

mleskovarsocalrrcom
September 26, 2024 2:11 pm

Funny how the last forecast of hurricane catastrophes produced an eight year drought of nothing above a 3 landing in the USA yet how quickly they forget. Make enough predictions and some are bound to become true.

paul courtney
Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
September 27, 2024 9:57 am

Mr. eskovar: I remember it well, Al Gore praying for a big hurricane that never came.

agimarc
September 26, 2024 2:19 pm

Lessee, 33 storms predicted. 9 so far by Sept 26. Gonna be a busy October. Methinks Mikey is a bit over his skis. Cheers –

Scissor
Reply to  agimarc
September 26, 2024 3:13 pm

He told his barber to part his hair in the middle.

Mr.
Reply to  Scissor
September 26, 2024 3:44 pm

He only has ONE left now?

Reply to  agimarc
September 26, 2024 4:04 pm

It’ll be fun to watch him in a couple months.

Reply to  agimarc
September 26, 2024 4:06 pm

This should be fun to watch.

giphy
Reply to  agimarc
September 27, 2024 11:20 pm

Methinks Mikey is a bit over his skis”

Methinks, Mikey is under his snow skis.

bdgwx
September 26, 2024 2:29 pm

No, this is not the level of activity many of you predicted pre-season. We are past the half way point of the season in terms of the climatological peak and yet there have only been 9 named storms. That’s no where close to the 33 ± 6 Penn State predicted. It’s not even reasonable to think that the 25’ish the other institutions were predicting is going to happen at this point.

John Hultquist
Reply to  bdgwx
September 26, 2024 8:10 pm

Me, being from Pennsylvania, ask you to please learn the difference between the Penn Quakers and the Nittany Lions. Thanks.

Reply to  John Hultquist
September 26, 2024 9:08 pm

Well, he was at Penn State, hence the state pen jokes upon which he lost his lawsuit in Canada for not providing his allegedly bogus data, allegedly. I thought he moved on to somewhere that now stinks worse (allegedly).

Reply to  philincalifornia
September 27, 2024 11:23 pm

Well, his AMO failure prediction went nowhere, twice.

So, not Mann is prognosticating hurricanes.
I suspect he is reading entrails.

Reply to  John Hultquist
September 26, 2024 9:19 pm

+100. How many times does it have to be pointed out that the Pennsylvania State University and the University of Pennsylvania are two separate institutions, one state-funded, one private. The latter used to be considered a good school, but then they hired Doctor Professor Michael E Mann from the former. Guess they needed the grant money.

paul courtney
Reply to  bdgwx
September 27, 2024 10:00 am

Mr. x: Your obfuscations are usually less muddled. Here, we can barely tell what you’re trying to avoid.

bdgwx
Reply to  paul courtney
September 27, 2024 4:13 pm

I apologize for not being clear. My point is that 9 named storms on September 26th is so far below the 33 that “we” predicted that it defies credulity to think that it in any way represents what “we” predicted.

I presume “we” is either includes Mann’s former colleagues at Penn State or his peers. I don’t know. I hope you’ll understand the obfuscation there is no fault of my own.

Jerry Mead
September 26, 2024 2:30 pm

Like the Club of Rome – but far less influential – Mikey’s tribe of unpleasant greasy little shysters will eventually fade away as their litany of failures becomes too obvious for anyone (politicians, big news, the man in the street, anyone) to ignore. And Millipeed, this includes you and your ghastly predecessor John ‘Use my 4-year-old daughter as a test subject for mad cow disease’ Selwyn Gummer.

Some of us have long memories and are light on forgiveness.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Jerry Mead
September 27, 2024 7:04 am

Well, if Al Gore is a valid example, Mann will be around for a few more decades and probably be worth billions like Gore.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
September 27, 2024 11:25 pm

Perish the thought!

Rud Istvan
September 26, 2024 2:38 pm

Mann got it wrong, but so did the NHC and Klotzbach at CSU.

The difference is, the NHC and Klotzbach have not continued pretending they were right. Mann obviously has. Old saying, better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt. Mann has removed all doubt.

The after action question is, why a normal season rather than significantly above normal, when above normal prediction reasoning—above normal sea surface temps and emerging La Niña—was impeccable based on past hurricane history.

As to Helene, it’s big and bad. I am 250 miles east of the eye and we have experienced 35mph winds with infrequent outmost rain band gusts above 50 this afternoon. Plus fast moving (presently ~20mph), so places like Atlanta are going to experience unprecedented tropical storm conditions tomorrow as the likely Fujiwhara effect flings Helene north.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 26, 2024 3:03 pm

Me too. With that coming La Nina and AMO+, I thought it was going to be a wonderful year for surfers. Bummer man.

Reply to  g3ellis
September 27, 2024 11:27 pm

Hurricanes push massive surf before them.
It is all a question of place and timing, then getting out on time.

bdgwx
Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 26, 2024 3:09 pm

The NHC doesn’t do seasonal forecasts. They are an extension of NOAA though whose CPC division works on that. It’s too early to know if NOAA’s forecast will verify or not yet. They forecasted 17-25 which is still plausible.

Reply to  bdgwx
September 26, 2024 10:17 pm

I suggest to wait until the end of october to state anything about this season. WUWT clearly lost it’s way trying to debunk MM TOO EARLY, knowing the curveballs end of season bring. Not Anthony’s brightest moment..

Reply to  ballynally
September 27, 2024 6:16 am

You mean it could ramp up at the end??? Let me see??? What just like in the shape of a hockey stick?

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  galileo62
September 27, 2024 7:05 am

Humor is a difficult concept.

bdgwx
Reply to  galileo62
September 27, 2024 7:11 am

I don’t know about a hockey stick, but Joyce is on the cusp of forming which would be 10. That leaves only 7 left for the NOAA forecast to verify. 7 is a lot for October and November, but it is plausible.

Reply to  bdgwx
September 28, 2024 12:58 pm

So what’s the difference between plausible, probable and possible?

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https://knowledgeworks.org/resources/tool-exploring-plausible-probable-possible-preferred-futures/

bdgwx
Reply to  Yirgach
September 28, 2024 2:54 pm

That is super cool. I hadn’t realized someone put a formal ranking on these words.

Reply to  bdgwx
September 28, 2024 6:35 pm

And remember the observer can alter reality…
Especially if they control the media.
Who’s focusing the spotlight?

Reply to  bdgwx
October 6, 2024 10:07 am

We’re at 13 already with Milton which could be nasty in central Florida this week.

Reply to  ballynally
September 27, 2024 9:02 am

I didn’t see it as an attempted debunking.

I saw it as pointing out the flaw that is called michael mann.

And his attempt to stay relevant.

And his attempt to cover his incompetance, using this storm as a pro-active deflection from his initial bad guess … he waited just before significant damage to jump up and down and say ‘l predicted this, pay attention to me’.

He is a p.o.s. that deserves all negatives that he gets.

Reply to  ballynally
September 28, 2024 5:36 am

Not Anthony’s brightest moment”

A trollop’s dream, eh?
🤡🤡🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤡🤡
Utterly failed this time as well as all the times before.
Each visit by a trollop proves Anthony’s brilliance, knowledge and steadiness.

Contrast that with all of the trollop whines, their echo chamber idiocy that gets rebutted, refuted or rejected each and every time.
They’re the ones repeating the same stupid errors, time and again.
That is, definitely not their brightest moments every single time they try.

Mann has been a joke for decades, easily refuted & rebuked.
That he wraps himself in victimhood, preaching absurdities is Mann’s own fault.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  bdgwx
September 27, 2024 7:05 am

Add in the probability assessment. It seems, as I recall, the 25 had an 85% probability while the 13 was something like 5%.

bdgwx
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
September 27, 2024 9:10 am

85% of above normal. Normal is 14 named storms. Now that Joyce has formed there is only 5 more to go to exceed that.

https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/noaa-predicts-above-normal-2024-atlantic-hurricane-season

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  bdgwx
September 27, 2024 7:28 pm

All of this is just more angels dancing on the head of a pin.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Charles Rotter
September 26, 2024 4:58 pm

That is crazy. I am twelve floors up from a beach 15 feet below our ground floor, and will have to sweep beach sand off the ocean facing balcony tomorrow. Plus wash the heavy salt spray off the hurricane glass balcony windows—can hardly see out now.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 26, 2024 3:27 pm

One reason for the “below prediction” season (so far) was that the Atlantic surface waters in the hurricane latitudes cooled very rapidly this year.

I do not believe that was in anyone’s basket of variables that they use to make the seasonal predictions.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  pillageidiot
September 26, 2024 4:05 pm

Two unexpected things. The sudden unexplained Atlantic cooling, and high Sahara dust. Both prove that long range weather forecasting is a crapshoot. Let alone long range climate forecasting.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 26, 2024 10:18 pm

Or ‘debunking’ for that matter

Reply to  ballynally
September 27, 2024 10:38 am

Seems that you are saying that predictions about a chaotic system, that has too many interdependent variables, can’t be ‘de-bunked’ (or people make the attempt to point out the problems) because the overall system can’t be reasonably modeled in the first place?

If I remember correctly, this type logic track is what Spock used to fry the computer.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 27, 2024 7:29 pm

Any range weather forecasting is a crap shoot. I’ve seen it wrong the same day more times than I can count.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 26, 2024 4:46 pm

I’ve been following Helene on nullschool, it is moving very fast, at noon it was off the Yucutan and now it’s very close to the Florida panhandle moving almost due north. The top wind speed appears to be about 117 kph.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Nansar07
September 26, 2024 5:37 pm

As of now (2030 EST) is a low cat 4, very very big wind field for a cat4, and moving mostly north at 23MPH. None of which is good news.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 26, 2024 5:21 pm

He removed my doubts 25 years ago when his lie was published contradicting decades of research.

Reply to  Sunsettommy
September 26, 2024 9:05 pm

And Mannians on WUWT continue to push the same lie, every time they post a hockey stick.

leefor
Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 26, 2024 7:58 pm

RE Mann – There was doubt?

September 26, 2024 3:01 pm

The evidence is before your eyes. Comparing him to the Black Knight is right on with a single exception. He will still think he is winning as a torso on the ground.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  g3ellis
September 26, 2024 3:07 pm

Scientifically, Mann already is just a torso on the ground.

Curious George
September 26, 2024 3:09 pm

Mann! Is! Always! Right!

Forrest Gardener
Reply to  Curious George
September 26, 2024 3:39 pm

Even when he is wrong. Or should that be especially when he is wrong. And isn’t that all of the time?

Reply to  Curious George
September 26, 2024 4:07 pm

Often wrong, never in doubt

September 26, 2024 3:47 pm

There were 1,222 views. Why? Mann is comic character thoroughly disgraced as an academic.

Reply to  RickWill
September 26, 2024 9:20 pm

I wrote a comic opera that included “He is the very model of a modern useful idiot” and now I’ve gone and lost it. Oh well, I have to admit it was a bit plagiarized and, being true, it was more sad than funny. I’ll find it.

Reply to  philincalifornia
September 26, 2024 10:07 pm

Here we go, just excerpts regarding the walking turd’s mathematical prowess. Thread here, funny reading too:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/02/28/michael-mann-russian-web-bots-are-causing-climate-activists-to-fight-each-other/

He is the very model of a modern useful idiot
He’s got lots of bogus data for the UN Secretariat

From the Pirates of Penn State, a Comic Opera

There’s more:

I’m very well acquainted too with matters mathematical
I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical
About binomial theorem I’m teeming with a lot o’ news—
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse
Chorus
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypote-pote-nuse

Reply to  philincalifornia
September 27, 2024 5:09 am

SET to music, that is just TOO COOL!!

“I am the model of a modern major general”

https://youtu.be/zSGWoXDFM64

Nick Stokes
September 26, 2024 3:50 pm

“many of us predicted pre-season”

Including WUWT:

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Rud Istvan
Reply to  Charles Rotter
September 26, 2024 4:08 pm

Only Mann has claimed he was when he wasn’t.
Mann alone does not know how to ‘Oopsie’.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 26, 2024 4:12 pm

I haven’t heard an ‘Oopsie’ from WUWT.
And if I did, I think it may still be premature.

David Goeden
Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 26, 2024 4:30 pm

Nick, could you help us newbies and explain what Mr. Mann has been right about?

J Boles
Reply to  David Goeden
September 26, 2024 5:19 pm

Yes, that there has been warming and cooling, and drought and flood, and fires and rain, and more tornadoes and fewer of them. No matter what, we predicted it! (Mann)

David Goeden
Reply to  J Boles
September 26, 2024 7:04 pm

Mr. (Mann), but you failed to predict that the raindrops are wetter now than ever before. How dare you!

Simon
Reply to  David Goeden
September 26, 2024 11:31 pm

He was right when he thought he might have a significant lift in his bank account when he took two people to court who defamed him. Am I wrong?

Derg
Reply to  Simon
September 27, 2024 3:35 am

You are wrong because you haven’t found that pee per tape

Reply to  Simon
September 27, 2024 4:03 am

“Am I wrong?”

You mean the late Tim Ball, who he NEVER PAID. !!

What a LOW-LIFE piece of scum is Mickey.. and those that support him.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Simon
September 27, 2024 7:12 am

Well $1 for damages does lift the account balance.

Simon
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
September 27, 2024 8:20 am

And the 1 mil? Don’t forget that….. I’m sure Mr Steyn wont be.

Reply to  Simon
September 27, 2024 7:40 am

From perplexity. You are right – he thought he might:

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paul courtney
Reply to  Simon
September 27, 2024 10:14 am

Mr. Simon: You am wrong. Not a penny has lifted his account to date. Since you seem to know Mann could not show any drop in his bank (not even insignificant drop), case should have been tossed before trial, good to know you prefer your justice warped.

Simon
Reply to  paul courtney
September 28, 2024 12:30 am

I said all along he would/should win this case. He was wronged by a guy who was smart but not clever. yo can’t call someone a fraud without evidence and Steyn provided none. Steyn will pay and the delay just makes the whole thing so much sweeter.

Reply to  Simon
September 28, 2024 6:00 am

Am I wrong?”
Completely wrong, as usual.

That case is under appeal.
Judicial appeal opinions will be rendered far from leftist echo chambers and faux juries. Without the benefit of jury indoctrination, contamination, obvious judge prejudices, and frankly absurd and wrong judicial errors.

Simon
Reply to  ATheoK
September 28, 2024 6:33 am

Yea well soldier talk it up all you want…. I think what Steyn said was nasty vile unprovable bullshite. And ya can’t do that without evidence and as he had none… he lost. And I have to say I did a little victory lap when he did. Nasty man.

David Goeden
Reply to  Simon
September 28, 2024 2:08 pm

Simon, do you know who pays for Mann’s lawyers, that Mann’s methodology will produce hockey sticks from random numbers, and that Wash., D.C. juries are notorious for their bias?

Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 26, 2024 4:46 pm

You and Mickey make such a lovely couple.

real bob boder
Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 26, 2024 4:49 pm

Mann said he was right! He clear isn’t.
Nick, you more and more are taking on this same delusional attitude, you dig your heals in always and just keep digging your holes deeper.
i once actually looked for your responses to articles because I found you a decent opposing view to help keep the debate reasonable. Now you’re almost a Griff and I usually don’t bother reading what you write. Made the mistake this time unfortunately.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  real bob boder
September 27, 2024 7:13 am

Let us verify that Mann was right.
All it takes is asking Mann if he was right.
That settles that science.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 26, 2024 5:03 pm

Nick,

I told you, and everyone else who would listen, that this would be a heavy hurricane season, AND IT IS. And it will be. I am usually (or always) correct, with respect to my climate knowledge, and I have been correct here, once again. It is almost Godlike … it should scare you.

I said 27 to 39 big ones. We have had 9 to date, at the 70% mark of the season. Don’t say I didn’t warn you. It is only getting worse … we’ve got another 18 to go over the next two months. And October is the biggest month … it’s the one I hang my hat on … I am warning you now (and again). Watch out for October this year.

Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

There may be others that made similar claims, but I am the one that is here again, showing you that my mad awesome climate skills are not to be questioned. Heed my words and accept my wisdom. And remember that I predicted the upcoming damage; if for nothing else, remember that I predicted this bad weather.

(I am a professional scientist)

Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 27, 2024 1:52 am

First time i actually agree with you. We are seeing quite a lot of rather extreme weather events in Europe atm. Not in terms of storms but rainfall attributed to the Hunga/Tonga eruption. Interesting NOA and polar vortex movements. Anyway, storm predictions are hard. We can safely say that..

Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 28, 2024 5:54 am

Egocentric narcissists never do.

Rick C
Reply to  Charles Rotter
September 26, 2024 4:36 pm

Just another demonstration of the problem with predicting the behavior of fundamentally chaotic systems.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 26, 2024 4:47 pm

Should have guessed it would be Nicky trying to support Mickey. 😉

Nick Stokes
Reply to  bnice2000
September 26, 2024 5:19 pm

Just pointing out that Mann and WUWT were in agreement. Though WUWT was more dramatic.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 26, 2024 5:39 pm

YAWN, always the disingenuous slimy-mess.

WUWT isn’t still hanging onto their incorrect prediction..

Mickey is… and you are licking his toenails.

Reply to  bnice2000
September 26, 2024 9:23 pm

Still thinks he’ll get to sniff a throne one day ……

Reply to  philincalifornia
September 27, 2024 12:01 am

Or at least where his mess-i-are has been sitting.

Reply to  bnice2000
September 27, 2024 12:55 am

Whats with these infantile stupid remarks? Do you guys actually really not know how to participate in a grown up conversation? I would tell you to stop embarrassing yourselves, except that is probably an emotion you are incapable of feeling.

What you need to understand is that these remarks are so infantile that the subject (and everyone else) reading them will conclude they are the product of a socially dysfunctional mind, and so will dismiss them.

They don’t have, can’t have, their hoped for effect.

There is a serious point to be made about the hurricane forecasts, and bad weather attributions more generally. Pointless to even try in this company.

Reply to  michel
September 27, 2024 4:14 am

Yawn… another boot-licker ???

Do you understand that these scum are supporting an agenda that wants to bring down western society… or don’t you care??

Nick is not trying to make any serious point at all..

If you can’t see that.. I can’t help you.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  bnice2000
September 27, 2024 7:37 pm

And name-calling will keep that from happening? Riiight.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  michel
September 27, 2024 7:17 am

I have been advocating for adult conversations, respecting all points of view. The insults are worthless and create flame wars, which is a waste of my time to read.

All insults and defamation do is cause divisiveness. We need to stand united or we all fall.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  michel
September 27, 2024 7:36 pm

Whats with these infantile stupid remarks?

+1000

sherro01
Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 26, 2024 5:16 pm

Nick,
Correct me if I am wrong, please, but I have come to associate your views with those dominant in academia. It is of interest, if this is so, that today I first heard advertising on Radio 3AW asking Australians to support our universities, because they do good things for us (a few trite examples are given).
Advertising can happen when a body notices adverse publicity is getting heavy and so it decides to tell a happy story. It is about time that our universities realize that they stink in public opinion. It is more than overpaid staff, from Chancellors down (mainly ex-politicians these days) , more than communist/dissident protests out of hand, more than bad influence on school curriculums for our youngsters …
Aussie universities have consistently sided with governments who are the source of much of their grant income. This was obvious from last year’s Referendum when a new aboriginal “voice” in Parliament was proposed by government and supported by universities. The people voted it down in every State overall 60% against. A new pair of factions was obvious, voters on one hand and government/academia/unions/greens on the other.
Looking back, where was academia suggesting ways to handle the Covid-19 start in 2020? Why could academia not be public about alternatives to Victoria’s world record lock-downs? Where was our academic research into the benefits and dangers of mRNA “vaccines”, even opposition to their redefinition of “vaccine” and the rather short and incomplete testing before vaccines were commenced? Where was opposition to the social experiment of (effectively) mandating vaccinations and punishing those who chose not to play? Where is academic comment on the large number of excess deaths in many countries, post-Covid, with some suggestions of vaccine damage?
There is example after example of academia kowtowing to governments at a time when more examples show governments are doing what they want to do, not what the people want them to do. WUWT has many such examples over the past 3 years for various countries.
On another topic, Aussie unis have done deplorable things regarding the Hamas/Israel disagreement. For some awful detail, please rad Tony Thomas in Quadrant Online journal:
https://quadrant.org.au/features/qed/hating-and-hounding-jews-on-campus/
I am thankful to WUWT for publicizing this issue of recent factions, with examples. Nick, you might be in the faction that will eventually lose against the power of the people.
Geoff S

Nick Stokes
Reply to  sherro01
September 26, 2024 5:56 pm

Geoff,
from Chancellors down (mainly ex-politicians these days”
Two of my degrees were handed to me by Chancellor Bob Menzies.

voters on one hand”
Universities have no obligation to conform with majority view. Never have.

where was academia suggesting ways to handle the Covid-19 start in 2020…”
You have some way out ideas here, and say “why won’t universities agree with me”? Probable answer – you’re wrong.

Nick, you might be in the faction that will eventually lose against the power of the people.”
I don’t have to conform with majority view either. But I think I’m a lot closer than you are.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 26, 2024 7:01 pm

You are totally clueless as to the majority view.

You live in an isolated miasma of post-academia mind-decay..

Mr.
Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 26, 2024 7:07 pm

Nick, if you received academic honors in the days of Menzies, you must have since witnessed and deplored the deterioration in academia of robust debate on scientific theories and hypotheses?

The “go-along-to-get-along” culture in academia since the 1970s must appal committed scientists such as yourself?

I mean, “settled science” for fuck’s sake!

Surely you haven’t defected to this “consensus” camp, Nick?

Reply to  Mr.
September 26, 2024 9:02 pm

He worked at CSIRO climate group, or something like that…

Hence has always been part of the consensus, and it has been all of him.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 26, 2024 9:28 pm

“Two of my degrees were handed to me by Chancellor Bob Menzies.”

‘Nuff said.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 27, 2024 7:11 am

What is posted is not a prediction by WUWT or Charles Rotter.
What is posted is a report of the Weatherbell forecast.\

Whether Charles Rotter believe the forecast or not is omitted in the snippet provided.
That Charles Rotter was concerned is included.

Mr.
September 26, 2024 4:01 pm

It’s an enduring mystery how this bloke could still be a climate / weather / energy go-to guy for the MSM after his litany of failed prognostications and predictions.

(I do know why –
pontificating about impending doom, disaster, apocalypse will always get lotsa headlines & click-bait from the msm. They’re as complicit as Mann, maybe more).

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Mr.
September 26, 2024 4:09 pm

Old MSM headline rule: if it bleeds, it leads.
Mann predicts bleeds, so leads.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 26, 2024 5:22 pm

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Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 26, 2024 5:45 pm

Great and hilarious prediction of Mickey Mann,

And just like Mickey, you just keep digging deeper as the hole collapses in on top of you..

It is very funny, in a sad pathetic sort of way.

Mr.
Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 26, 2024 6:50 pm

See, that’s what’s called HUMOR, Nick.

Takin’ the piss.

Leftists the world over missed out on the humor gene altogether.

And islamists of course – they don’t even get that “72 virgins” is a dodgy translation of “72 gerbils”.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Mr.
September 26, 2024 7:04 pm

If it bleeds, it leads.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 26, 2024 9:03 pm

Dig, dig.. keep on digging, Nick. !

Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 26, 2024 9:08 pm

Desperation time.

September 26, 2024 4:53 pm

Mann is such a drama queen….

Michael-Mann-We-are-DOOMED
September 26, 2024 6:17 pm

Colorado State University.

Storms
Reply to  HotScot
September 26, 2024 9:09 pm

Don’t let Stokes see this.

Reply to  karlomonte
September 27, 2024 12:02 am

Not enough pretty colours to get Nick’s attention. 😉

Reply to  HotScot
October 7, 2024 3:47 pm

As of today the graph is at 109.

September 27, 2024 1:03 am

To help everyone who, like me, has finally reached their limit on the endless infantile rants by bnice etc, there is a solution.

You can use ublock origin to configure a filter which screens them out, ie screens out particular posters, and you’ll never have to see them again.

I have been putting up with it so far, but my next step will be to create one. There is a limit to how much public exhibition of social dysfunction one can tolerate, and this thread has gone over my limit.

Moderators: the fact that someone is being driven to this is perhaps an indicator that some action from you guys is worth considering. The site is getting thoroughly polluted.

Reply to  michel
September 27, 2024 1:49 am

For example, to your custom filters in ublock add the following:

wattsupwiththat.com##:xpath(//article[.//a[contains(text)), ‘bnice2000’)]])

and you’ll be free of it once and for all.

You can write a separate rule for each poster, or (simpler) you can use the ‘or’ xpath operator for multiple posters.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  michel
September 27, 2024 2:57 am

Thanks. I didn’t know about ublock. I’ll follow your advice, when I can get it working.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 27, 2024 3:04 am

I’m having problems now, it worked when first installed, but now for some reason is no longer working. Have to keep hacking!

Nick Stokes
Reply to  michel
September 27, 2024 3:13 am

I got a warning saying that ublock Origin was being depredated in favour of ublock Origin Lite.

bdgwx
Reply to  michel
September 27, 2024 7:01 am

Google Chrome pulled the plug on it about a month ago.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  bdgwx
September 28, 2024 4:51 pm

But only Chrome. It works on Firefox. It looks like Google does not like ad blockers.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 27, 2024 4:18 am

Nick really doesn’t like to be shown how consistently wrong he is.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 29, 2024 8:34 am

Kindly post the sandwich menu from the deli down the street from you, to see how many Debbie Downers we need to add in, to adjust every one of your other posts.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  michel
September 27, 2024 4:36 am

I was happier with the CSS version. I found this worked

wattsupwiththat.com##.comment-author-bnice2000

The version with karlomonte worked too. It sure makes the thred easier to read.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 27, 2024 4:50 am

Yes, thanks, this one is working. What a relief!

Reply to  Nick Stokes
September 27, 2024 6:47 am

Oh look, I made the Nitpick Nick killfile lits.

Reply to  karlomonte
September 27, 2024 7:25 am

You too, join the club.

Reply to  michel
September 27, 2024 8:00 am

Why is it that leftists are completely, totally devoid of any sense of humor?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  karlomonte
September 27, 2024 7:43 pm

Schoolyard namecalling is not humor.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
September 27, 2024 11:59 pm

Michael E Mann, the Black Knight

Is Charles the Moderator’s comparison of Mann with the Black Knight from Monte Python and the Holy Grail also “schoolyard namecalling”?

Derg
Reply to  michel
September 27, 2024 3:41 am

Or you could ignore 😉

Reply to  michel
September 27, 2024 4:17 am

Appeasement…. has always worked so well. !!

Reply to  michel
September 27, 2024 7:58 am

You prefer cancel culture Michel? Honestly, that’s a bad choice IMO. You also miss the point that you’re not the only one reading the comments. Here, the US has already been divided. Some people try to get the word out that a lot of the division on sites like this is from people who are stupid enough to follow the US government and its divisive narrative. They get to vote (even people who still believe the Steele dossier and Hunter Biden’s laptop was Russian disinformation – real life examples of people I know). Worse still, there are people who believe we are in a climate emergency (literally) and we can stabilize the climate by changing the Keeling curve back to pre-industrial levels. They walk among us.

You’re going see a lot of the response to it everywhere, certainly before November 5th.

Reply to  philincalifornia
September 27, 2024 9:03 am

Other people can do what they like, I am not telling anyone what to do, just telling them what I am doing and how to do it if they feel like it.

I’m quite happy to read and debate opinions that I disagree with. But these are not opinions, and whatever bnice thinks they are doing, its not debating.

What I’m not happy to have to put up with in my ordinary reading of the comments section is the constant interruption of infantile irrelevant personal insults directed by bnice at anyone who disagrees with him/her. I find it anti social and aggressive – not only to the object of his/her remarks but to everyone, and don’t see why I should put up with it any more.

You may differ. Fine, keep reading them.

My own solution is to just stop reading them, screen them out of my view of the site. Whether Anthony carries on tolerating them, that is up to him. One of the very estimable things about this site (in contrast to many climate sites) is that bans are very rare, and differing viewpoints are many. I value that. But there are limits.

Its like, we abolish office suit and tie dress codes, have a more informal and collegial atmosphere, sounds OK. But when someone just stops bathing or changing clothes for a month? That’s fine, but I am moving my desk to a less perfumed part of the floor.

Reply to  michel
September 27, 2024 9:23 am

OK, fair enough.

Sean Galbally
September 27, 2024 1:57 am

Why does the University of Pennsylvania still employ this discredited individual, Michael Mann?.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Sean Galbally
September 27, 2024 7:23 am

Government grants.

September 27, 2024 1:57 am

I still remember predictions of an average nr of storms in winter 2020. Then we had 4 in a row in january. October has not even started. Im not saying Mann will be right. It doesnt matter. Just make the assessment at it’s proper time, after the season has ended.

Reply to  ballynally
September 27, 2024 5:20 am

re: “Im not saying Mann will be right.

Since when has Michael Mann exhibited any (1) skill, (2) credibility or (3) ‘time in type’ (employment as) a meteorologist? His ‘luck’ with ANY number ‘pick’ would be just that – PURE LUCK and NO SKILL … Reed Timmer an actual PhD Meteorologist has that background, but MM’s skill lies in what – torturing strip-pine bark tree datasets until they confess?

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  ballynally
September 27, 2024 7:24 am

Valid point. It ain’t over ’til it’s over.

Richard Greene
September 27, 2024 2:23 am

Tony Heller wrote a better article on this subject, published yesterday, but he seems to be banned here

Mann Says He Was Correct | Real Climate Science

Reply to  Richard Greene
September 27, 2024 4:21 am

D.Boss rips the Cat 4 rating apart very nicely 🙂

Reply to  Richard Greene
September 27, 2024 4:49 am

re: “Michael Mann [having] predicted thirty-three named storms, and now that there have been nine he says he was correct.

Michael Mann, remaining ‘true to form’, continues ti demonstrate his ‘weakness in maths’ …

September 27, 2024 4:44 am

Has anyone ‘opened’ with this line yet:

It was a dark and stormy knight [sic] … “

Reply to  _Jim
September 27, 2024 9:32 am

Downvotard -er- down-voter care to explain WHY a riff on classic opening story line is objectionable and rates a down-vote??

September 27, 2024 6:25 am

I think storms like Isaac shouldn’t count in the total. If the “eye” doesn’t come inside say 300 NM (our fishing claim).

Does Hélène get counted twice? Once as a TS and as a hurricane?

bdgwx
Reply to  mkelly
September 27, 2024 7:05 am

It is only counted once.

dougsorensen
September 27, 2024 8:10 am

Mann and reality are passing acquaintances, at best.

September 27, 2024 11:09 pm

I must protest!

The black knight is very brave! Foolishly brave perhaps, nonetheless a single brave fighter challenging opponents openly.

Perhaps Mann’s only true resemblance to the black knight is where neither admits weaknesses or when they’ve been soundly beaten.