LA Times: ‘It’s almost shameful to want to have children’ – ‘Climate Anxiety & the Kid Question’

From CLIMATE DEPOT

By Marc Morano

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https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-09-11/climate-anxiety-and-the-kid-question

By Jade S. Sasser

Excerpt: Jade S. Sasser is an associate professor in the Department of Gender & Sexuality Studies at UC Riverside. Her research explores the relationships between reproductive justice, women’s health and climate change, and she’s the host of the podcast “Climate Anxiety and the Kid Question.” The following excerpt is from her newest book, “Climate Anxiety and the Kid Question: Deciding Whether to Have Children in an Uncertain Future,” which was published earlier this year.

These interviewees have more climate change knowledge than most people do. All of them are college-educated; most of them either grew up or have lived for some time in Southern California; and most have taken environmental studies classes, either as undergrads or in graduate school.

Their experiences as members of marginalized groups have shaped their experiences with climate emotions like anxiety, fear, and trauma — as well as hope and optimism. Paying closer attention to those emotions and mental health in communities of color, including how they shape reproductive plans, will become an increasingly important component of climate justice in the United States.

Melanie, a 26-year-old Native American woman, was raised on the Navajo reservation and in Southern California. She idealizes having a big, happy family, but there are aspects of the world that give her pause, so she struggles with whether it’s morally OK to have children.

“ I think I may not have children although I do want them,” she notes. “Just because, with all of the things we see going on in the world, it seems unfair to bring someone into all of this against their will.”

Melanie’s feelings about climate change include a general sense of powerlessness and lack of control over other people’s actions, which directly translates into her fears about parenthood: “With climate change, we’re the driving force of things breaking down, but then also, the planet’s going to do what the planet’s going to do. … So … it almost feels, like, kind of shameful to want to have children.”

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Tom Halla
September 15, 2024 6:14 pm

It is a millenarian cult. Actually learning the science behind the claimed apocalypse would lead to a high probability of realizing it is delusional, a product of anti-technology and anti-capitalist fanatics.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Tom Halla
September 15, 2024 6:46 pm

Delusion is all they do, Tom. Men can get pregnant, women have penises, climate change causes kidney stones, Trump caused all the inflation and wars… There’s no end to it.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
September 16, 2024 12:47 am

Trump causes every bad thing. If you are only blaming Trump for inflation and wars, it shows you don’t understand what is really happening.

Everything bad that is happening was caused by Trump or people who voted for him.

Bryan A
September 15, 2024 6:17 pm

Anyone who fears having children because of Climate I say to you…
Follow your fears
Don’t have children
Don’t pass along your climate paranoia to another generation

Don’t file for Social Security benefits…
…your nonexistent children aren’t paying into it for you
Don’t preach your beliefs to the children of others…
…you very well may be wrong and unnecessarily propagating your paranoia
Don’t insist on your fears being preached in schools as part of the curriculum…
…you will just be further polarizing society
Don’t push for Climate litigation in Congress or the courts…
…it ultimately may go to the highest courage be decided against you

Do stop using fossil fuels
Do stop using FF sourced Grid disseminated electricity as a percentage is FF sourced
Do throw away your useless IC vehicles
Do eliminate plastics from your repertoire
Do eliminate synthetics from your repertoire
Do Walk Everywhere and stop using synthetic rubber solved shoes (wooden clogs are OK)
Do stop using ALL of the 6000 petrochemical derived products
Throw away your Cell Phones, Computers, Laptops, IPad’s all were made from Oil, Gas and Coal

Stop being hypocrites!!!

Reply to  Bryan A
September 15, 2024 9:31 pm

Thank you for writing that. Wish I could give it more likes.

On the 6000 though, isn’t it more like 6 Million, or 6 Billion ??

Mary Jones
Reply to  philincalifornia
September 15, 2024 11:24 pm

No, the total is described as “more than 6000.”

Reply to  Bryan A
September 16, 2024 12:14 am

Don’t pass along your climate paranoia to another generation

Perhaps it is different for isolated and primitive peoples but the history of open cultures with contacts outside the tribal mentality is that children strongly tend to adopt attitudes and beliefs in opposition to what their parents believe.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Bryan A
September 16, 2024 2:01 am

You forgot: buy a horse.

Bryan A
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
September 16, 2024 6:52 am

I did say “Walk Everywhere” (and probably barefoot) given most shoes are mainly synthetics or Animal hide and they don’t want us farming animals due to methane emissions

roaddog
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
September 16, 2024 11:16 am

Buy an ass. Fixed it for you.

September 15, 2024 6:17 pm

This is real? Thought I accidentally clicked on the Babylon Bee there.

Reply to  Joe Gordon
September 15, 2024 7:32 pm

BB is great at exposing leftist memes ! 🙂

So is Trump 😉

roaddog
Reply to  Joe Gordon
September 16, 2024 11:32 am

The Bee is sadly proficient at prediction.

John the Econ
September 15, 2024 6:23 pm

Just what Progressivism wants: People feeling out-of-control of their lives and helpless. Please don’t reproduce and pass this dysfunction on.

Jeff Alberts
September 15, 2024 6:47 pm

 “Climate Anxiety and the Kid Question: Deciding Whether to Have Children in an Uncertain Future,”

There has never been a time in human history in which the future was certain. Idiots.

Rod Evans
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
September 16, 2024 1:20 am

Actually Jeff, the future is certain, I am just unsure what our role in it will be….

Reply to  Rod Evans
September 16, 2024 11:43 am

We won’t have a role because we’ll be dead, that is the future for all of us. The only way to live on is in the memory of our children which is why you should have them.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
September 16, 2024 1:26 am

There was never a time in human history when humans could predict the future either.

But that doesn’t stop these people who believe they can.

roaddog
Reply to  doonman
September 16, 2024 10:51 pm

We’re all gonna die.

Groggy Sailor
September 15, 2024 7:19 pm

Good, Don’t have kids. Only people who see through this nonsense and don’t pass along their climate cult ideology will be having children and eventually the cultist will die out.

Walter Sobchak
September 15, 2024 7:24 pm

I hope they don’t have children. Their crazy ideas will die with them and not plague future generations.

roaddog
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
September 16, 2024 11:18 am

I’m delighted they aren’t having children. We’ve already done far too much to remove Darwinian winnowing from the process of evolution.

September 15, 2024 7:31 pm

“Department of Gender & Sexuality Studies”

OMG… I hope she never has children.

In fact, she should be totally forbidden from having them… pass a law now, leftists.

Poor things will grow up not knowing the difference between Arthur or Martha…

… and will most certainly grow up deranged and twisted by worry and anxiety..

.. like their mother.

Bryan A
Reply to  bnice2000
September 15, 2024 10:47 pm

Those that do have kids will likely mess them up further by giving them both male and female names. Giving their genetically female babies female first name and a male middle name while doing the opposite for their genetically male babies. This way they will allow for their children to not only select their neutered orientation but also have the perk of ensuring their kids are picked on in school.

Reply to  Bryan A
September 16, 2024 3:09 am

Come on Bryan, you know that using mis-gendered names makes the child “strong”.

https://youtu.be/WOHPuY88Ry4

Gregory Woods
Reply to  Bryan A
September 16, 2024 3:46 am

Just for info: Name used in Latin America – Jose Maria for boys, and Maria Jose for girls.

Bryan A
Reply to  Gregory Woods
September 16, 2024 6:16 am

So they’re ahead of the curve then?
Though the Spanish language doesn’t necessarily allow for regendering with “o” being masculine and “a” being feminine. El Niño, La Niña. Even “El” and “La” are gendered…2 Genders.

Muchacho
Muchacha

Amigo
Amiga

Gregory Woods
Reply to  Bryan A
September 16, 2024 6:28 am

Pendejo, Pendeja

roaddog
Reply to  bnice2000
September 16, 2024 11:19 am

Always remember to spay and neuter your liberal friends. With apologies to Bob Barker.

mleskovarsocalrrcom
September 15, 2024 7:32 pm

Reminiscent of Salem.

John Hultquist
September 15, 2024 7:49 pm

Melanie, a 26-year-old Native American woman, was raised on the Navajo reservation … ”
The Navajo, or Diné, have interesting accounts of the origin of the people. She should be studying these rather than following the ramblings of Jade S. S.
I wonder if women on Navajo lands have the same fertility as the general population: A woman’s fertility peaks between her late teens to late-20s after which it starts to decline. She has already missed her best opportunities of having healthy children. 

Reply to  John Hultquist
September 15, 2024 9:34 pm

….. assuming that Melanie even exists in the real world.

Bryan A
Reply to  John Hultquist
September 15, 2024 10:48 pm

It’s OK, she self identified as Cherokee

Reply to  Bryan A
September 16, 2024 1:27 pm

And self-identifies as a woman..

Is actually a 6ft-tall, pudgy, balding man.

observa
Reply to  John Hultquist
September 16, 2024 5:34 am

Yep and there’s a whole undercurrent of social media trying to tell women what the Meetoo cat ladies have been telling them they need to be strong independent boss babes and don’t need no man will see them crying on tiktok when they’re still single and running out of eggs-
Don’t Ask Me to Smile, It’s Offensive © (youtube.com)

Kevin is particularly interested in his own racial group and the propensity for black single mothers but the problem is widespread particularly with the toxicity of social media for young women. They can be easily lured via dating apps into believing they’re princesses and queens as they get pumped and dumped in their youth by the top 10% of men getting all the action leaving the majority of average young men to realize they’re not wanted and joining MGTOW.

My take is it’s a lot like the fatal attraction of computer games for climastrologists and do they have the background training and experienced mentors to identify GIGO?

observa
Reply to  observa
September 16, 2024 7:21 am

PS: Here tis with Kevin trying to school a young modern woman who is the product of the College education system that she might not quite be able to have it all like she’s been told (9 minute mark)-
Young Woman With Useless Degree Wants High Value Man © (youtube.com)
She’s definitely not alone and they’re not all women of colour looking for their ‘high value man’ and what he can bring to the table.

1saveenergy
September 15, 2024 10:07 pm

Hopefully, the Climate Cult, like the Shakers, could die out by attrition.
Shakers were celibate; & procreation was forbidden after they joined the society, they were so chaste that men and women could not shake hands or pass one another on the stairs. (As my old granny used to say, “There’s naught as queer as folk”)

But don’t hold your breath, the Shakers lasted over 200 years from 1772 until the early 1990s.

September 15, 2024 10:33 pm

it seems unfair to bring someone into all of this against their will.

Good grief, woman, do you actually understand what you’re saying?

Reply to  Redge
September 15, 2024 10:42 pm

Certainly a completely bizarre/unhinged statement !

Reply to  Redge
September 16, 2024 1:29 am

No one calls women hysterical anymore.

1saveenergy
Reply to  doonman
September 16, 2024 3:34 am

Oh yes, we do …
Hysterical; is a totally inclusive word & can be applied to ALL colours, disabilities, races, & genders (real or imagined).

roaddog
Reply to  doonman
September 16, 2024 11:20 am

Wrong.

Reply to  doonman
September 16, 2024 1:29 pm

No one calls women hysterical anymore”

the camal.. any time she can’t find her notes or teleprompter, and her ear-piece stops working.

September 15, 2024 11:42 pm

This may be Nature’s way of quietly removing people with stupid or dangerous ideas from the gene pool.

Ian_e
September 16, 2024 1:04 am

Mind you, I do feel sorry for the coming generations who will be forced to live in the Middle Ages because of the awful destruction caused by the AGW cultists!

roaddog
Reply to  Ian_e
September 16, 2024 11:25 am

Yes, the basic skills we have lost in the past 60 years would have served them well. Re.: Forstchen’s “One Second After,” and all the other books in the John Mathers series.

roaddog
Reply to  Ian_e
September 16, 2024 11:27 am

That PhD in basketweaving might come in handy, but a graduate degree in interpretive dance will be impossible to monetize or barter.

September 16, 2024 1:27 am

All of them are college-educated; most of them either grew up or have lived for some time in Southern California; and most have taken environmental studies classes, either as undergrads or in graduate school.”

Maybe, just maybe, this says more about the state of college education in general, and the teaching of environmental studies in particular, then about climate.

Corrigenda
September 16, 2024 1:40 am

Yet almost all countries of the Western world urgently need more children. There is even a danger that the normal mix of interest, skill and intelligence may not hold up unless more indigenous children are brought into this world. See: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53409521

Ed Zuiderwijk
September 16, 2024 2:00 am

Good! The idiocy will die out with the carriers of the virus. The only drawback I see is that my children will be forced to provide for their pensions and care.

roaddog
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
September 16, 2024 11:29 am

When society is reduced to its lowest, most impoverished level, feeding the least productive will cease to be a possibility.

Duane
September 16, 2024 3:54 am

It’s so unfair for the next generation to be born into a world with the highest standard of living in human history, the greatest longevity, the highest standards of health care, the lowest child mortality, the greatest amounts of personal freedom, the strongest social security supports, the greatest educational gains, etc. etc. etc.

By their standards, the human race never should have existed at all. I suppose that is their ideology anyway.

roaddog
Reply to  Duane
September 16, 2024 11:30 am

Nihilists.

September 16, 2024 4:23 am

Anyone who has “climate anxiety” doesn’t have enough real problems to worry about.

roaddog
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
September 16, 2024 11:30 am

Until their phone breaks.

heme212
September 16, 2024 5:22 am

all while they flood the western world with people who almost immediately adopt our carbon footprint.

JamesB_684
September 16, 2024 6:43 am

Western civilization, and China, are in demographic decline in most countries, with outright collapse in several, like Greece.
This is a VASTLY bigger problem than a bit of warming.

September 16, 2024 1:12 pm

It’s almost shameful to want to have children

Correction, it IS shameful to have children if you’re a leftist. Don’t have them. Let sane people have them. They’re competent to raise children with an optimistic, balanced view of the world. You leftists abuse your children by terrifying them with your delusions. Do us all a favor and don’t reproduce. The world will be far better for it.

September 16, 2024 1:45 pm

Talk about being overeducated. Listen up lady, if you are a true believer in the climate-o-geddon, then you should have *more* children, not fewer. Have nine or ten. Why? Because that way you increase the chances that your offspring figure out how to cure the climate cancer! Heal the Gaia! Dance with rainbows! or whatever your current wokephrase is. And even if they turn out to be as… gifted… as their mum, they can at least help replace a tractor or two on the farms once diesel is banned. Just like their future daddy, they’ll be spending a lot of time with a hoe.

Bob
September 16, 2024 5:43 pm

Proof our higher education budgets need to be cut, focusing on new social justice programs. We need to get back to basic math, science, history, music and arts. I struggled saying arts because of things like the Piss Christ.

September 16, 2024 6:20 pm

When “global cooling” inevitably shows up she by the age of 45 will realize she threw away the prime parenting age due to being overly pessimistic and imputing a nonexistent crisis onto people.