Keir Starmer. By © UK Parliament / Maria Unger - UK Parliament, CC BY 3.0, link

British Labour Considers “Office for Net Zero”

Essay by Eric Worrall

Never has a proposed Whitehall taskforce been so aptly named.

Election 2024: Labour to create new office for net zero in government to push green transition

Sources say the new office would demonstrate commitment to achieving clean power by 2030 and provide a key dividing line with the Tories.

Alexandra Rogers
Political reporter @Journoamrogers
Tuesday 25 June 2024 03:04, UK

Labour will ramp up its efforts to achieve net zero with a dedicated team of officials working to eliminate carbon emissions if it wins the election, Sky News understands.

The party’s transition team, led by Sir Keir Starmer’s chief of staff Sue Gray, is considering setting up an Office for Net Zero if it forms the next government, sources said, with a focus on delivering its aim for clean power as laid out in its manifesto.

It is not yet clear whether the new office would sit within the Cabinet Office – one of the key control centres in government alongside Number 10 and the Treasury – or under the the existing Department for Energy Security and Net Zero (Desnez).

While Labour have announced moves to accelerate the move to net zero, including doubling onshore wind, tripling solar power and quadrupling offshore wind by 2030, Mr Sunak’s approach has been more cautious.

Read more: https://news.sky.com/story/election-2024-labour-to-create-new-office-for-net-zero-in-government-to-push-green-transition-13156557

If only the Net Zero push had been around back when the BBC used to make comedy programmes.

In the famous BBC Sitcom “Yes Minister”, MP Jim Hacker and his adversary Permanent Secretary Sir Humphrey Appleby ran the “Department of Administrative Affairs”, a fictional Whitehall ministry which had poorly defined responsibilities and achieved nothing significant during the entire series.

But “Office for Net Zero” beats “Department of Administrative Affairs” in terms of implied uselessness. I mean, there’s a vague expectation the “Department of Administrative Affairs” might actually be expected to achieve something. But “Office for Net Zero” – can you imagine a “Net Zero” progress report?

Labour leader Keir Starmer’s imminent administration was always destined to be a comedy special – radical green politicians using Karl Marx as their guide to fixing the economic failures of Britain’s energy market.

Don’t lose any important peripheral appendages to frostbite kind of humour.

But please keep the “Office for Net Zero” title for the crack team of bureaucrats who will lead the charge to make it all right. Writing future WUWT articles about the unfolding energy disaster at the “Office for Net Zero” would just be the cherry on the cake.

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Tom Halla
June 27, 2024 10:09 am

Doubling down on failure?

michael hart
Reply to  Tom Halla
June 27, 2024 1:18 pm

Seeing as they’ve all signed up for it, with 2030 not that far away it might be a good time to lose an election. 🙂

gezza1298
Reply to  michael hart
June 27, 2024 2:53 pm

The current socialist government will commit economic suicide 5 years later in 2035.

Bill Toland
Reply to  michael hart
June 27, 2024 11:17 pm

With the next government expected to run from 2024 to 2029, the 2029 election campaign should be grimly amusing with some politicians deserting the sinking ship before the bovine excrement impacts the air moving device.

michael hart
Reply to  Tom Halla
June 27, 2024 1:18 pm

Seeing as they’ve all signed up for it, with 2030 not that far away it might be a good time to lose an election. 🙂

Reply to  Tom Halla
June 27, 2024 1:38 pm

With only a few days to go before the election, announcement of planned doubling down on endless economic pain for the electorate, shows the depth of of idiocy in the alt-left wokey pollies. For 200,000 grand, I would have counseled Starmer to shut up now. With a real alternative candidate in the race, this should accelerate the opposition numbers.

ethical voter
Reply to  Tom Halla
June 27, 2024 2:28 pm

Its a leftist tradition.

June 27, 2024 10:12 am

Here in the U.S. a Google search finds 4 federal departments that have offices dealing with “The Climate Crisis” Departments of State, Interior, Energy & Defense. The Democrats will probably get around to a “Climate Crisis” Department.

June 27, 2024 10:13 am

I really DO hope they will actually put one up and then watch the ‘progress’..

purple entity
Reply to  ballynally
June 27, 2024 12:31 pm

Even ignoring the economic concerns, solar panel farms require extensive land use, which can lead to habitat fragmentation.

Editor
Reply to  ballynally
June 27, 2024 4:20 pm

Bear in mind that Josef Stalin was very much in favour of democracy – provided he counted the votes. The Office for net zero will have no difficulty reporting that they are progressing and on target. Not only is the office the first to be so appropriately named, it is also the first that needs to be staffed with pathological liars.

Reply to  Mike Jonas
June 27, 2024 6:07 pm

I really doubt that “first” bit.

Reply to  Mike Jonas
June 27, 2024 6:53 pm

We already have the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero.

At least they understand they’ll be dropping the Energy Security aspect.

gezza1298
Reply to  It doesnot add up
June 28, 2024 6:22 am

Seems sensible since they are doing nothing about energy security.

Robertvd
Reply to  ballynally
June 28, 2024 12:56 am

More or less easy now most of your industry has left the country and what is left planning to leave. But now you have to import all your stuff. Is that net zero?. And to import you have to export but if you are not making any stuff what do you export? If you are not making stuff where does the money come from to buy stuff. Printing Pound Stirling like there is no tomorrow? Destroying the purchasing power of that same fiat currency killing everyone’s savings in the process. Remember how everyone was poor in the USSR and there was nothing to buy. 

Shytot
June 27, 2024 10:17 am

If they can achieve net zero then at least they will not have made things any worse.
If they really want to be “ambitious” then net negative has to be their goal.

Idle Eric
Reply to  Shytot
June 27, 2024 11:09 am

Everyone starving/freezing to death when the economy collapses, or the wind drops to zero in winter is a strange usage of the phrase “not worse”.

Shytot
Reply to  Idle Eric
June 27, 2024 12:14 pm

I should’ve added the sarc tag.
I was also speaking numerically and not idealogically
If their net achievement is zero then it’s no worse than where we are now – if their achievement is negative then that would mean that they are further from their deluded goals and that’s better for us all.

Reply to  Shytot
June 27, 2024 9:38 pm

I should’ve added the sarc tag.

The sarc tag shouldn’t have been necessary

Shytot
Reply to  Redge
June 28, 2024 5:58 am

Thanks 👍
As long as the down votes don’t cost me anything (net zero?) I’ll live with it 😁

Reply to  Shytot
June 27, 2024 12:32 pm

That is the goal of many “greens”. Certainly here in Wokeachusetts. They openly say it- and one way to get there, after they stop all fossil fuels, is to lock up all the forests so no tree every gets cut.

J Boles
June 27, 2024 10:29 am

Politicians…the scourge of humanity.

Scarecrow Repair
Reply to  J Boles
June 27, 2024 11:09 am

Nope — coercive immortal monopoly governments. Politicians wouldn’t exist without such things.

Whether getting rid of such things is good or possible, I leave to others. But politicians are as inevitable as carnivores and herbivores.

Reply to  Scarecrow Repair
June 27, 2024 6:08 pm

except for the most part they are parasites.

ethical voter
Reply to  J Boles
June 27, 2024 2:38 pm

Political parties – the home of politicians – are the scourge of humanity and they exist only by the grace {idiocy} of the voters so there is hope. The voters are turning their backs on parties. Soon the trickle will become a flood.

Reply to  ethical voter
June 27, 2024 6:10 pm

Soon the trickle will become a flood.

Unfortunately I doubt it. The tribe/clan instinct, left over from long, long ago, is still strong in so many humans.

ethical voter
Reply to  AndyHce
June 28, 2024 1:31 pm

Ten percent of the candidates in the soon to be British general election are independents. Double from last time. Ok, probably none will succeed but you gotta have eggs before chickens. One thing is sure – any successful independent will be head and shoulders above every party hack.

Reply to  J Boles
June 27, 2024 11:13 pm

Their existence disproves the survival of the fittest, how did their genes get through the caveman era when they had no purpose.

June 27, 2024 10:31 am

Net Zero policies are increasingly unpopular as voters learn the true costs and tradeoffs involved. However, Net Zero talking points remain popular.

So for the best of both worlds politicians should talk about Net Zero but do nothing. Doing nothing is one thing American politicians do best. Is it any different in the UK?

Reply to  More Soylent Green!
June 27, 2024 10:22 pm

At the beginning of this evening’s “historic” presidential debate, CNN was touting that millions of folks from around the world would be watching (apparently regardless of time zone). I would apologize to all of them, except it wasn’t my fault.

Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
June 28, 2024 7:05 am

Yes, bad for Biden, and good for the United States and the Western World.

June 27, 2024 10:35 am

“British Labour Considers “Office for Net Zero””
OK. Stick them in an office without light, heat or AC. (Or power for their PCs and phones.)
Let them experience “Net Zero” before they inflict it on the rest of the UK.

Gregory Woods
Reply to  Gunga Din
June 27, 2024 1:51 pm

There must be some unoccupied dungeons around.

June 27, 2024 10:47 am

From Yesterdays Telegraph, surprised anyone is surprised. And private money has to be paid for by the public too, it just keeps it off the Govt accounts.

Reaching Labour’s target for decarbonising the economy will cost “hundreds of billions” of pounds, a shadow minister has disclosed in a recording obtained by The Telegraph.

Darren Jones, the shadow chief secretary to the Treasury, said the £28 billion per year originally allocated to Labour’s green investment plan was a “tiny” amount.

He said the fact that Sir Keir Starmer had downgraded his investment plans from £28 billion to £4.7 billion “made it sound as if we basically junked the whole thing but we definitely haven’t”.

Mr Jones told a public meeting in Bristol that private capital would have to be used to upgrade infrastructure, but “public subsidy” would still be needed alongside that.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 27, 2024 3:20 pm

From closed down and bankrupt businesses, of course! 😉

Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 27, 2024 6:13 pm

They have full access to all on-shore, and probably to most off-shore bank accounts, useful when they don’t get full “voluntary” cooperation.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 28, 2024 4:06 am

The green billionaires are going to make a killing lending the government the money. Mark Carney is their gopher.

Reply to  kommando828
June 27, 2024 6:57 pm

What the article failed to mention is that it would be hundreds of billions per year.

There is no way to achieve their goal with any less, and the extent if the command economy required might even have made Mao and gas Great Leap backward blush.

Reply to  kommando828
June 27, 2024 9:42 pm

He said the fact that Sir Keir Starmer had downgraded his investment plans from £28 billion to £4.7 billion “made it sound as if we basically junked the whole thing but we definitely haven’t”.

The £4.7b is only to pay the salaries of the new department.

mleskovarsocalrrcom
June 27, 2024 10:50 am

Is this the same as in the USA where we give them a title, authority, and enforcement to do whatever they want despite not being elected officials?

strativarius
June 27, 2024 10:51 am

Sue Gray…. that figures.

Sue Gray’s policy of introducing citizens’ assemblies was backtracked on a mere 30 hours after it was first briefed to the press. Gray must have forgotten that we already have a citizens’ assembly known as Parliament. 
https://order-order.com/2024/02/20/mandelson-slaps-down-sue-gray/

Another one of Stalin’s daughters

Tern11
Reply to  strativarius
June 27, 2024 3:46 pm

Citizens’ soviets.

Bob
June 27, 2024 11:40 am

It is clear, we have a government problem not a climate problem.

ethical voter
Reply to  Bob
June 27, 2024 2:43 pm

Well sure but who elects the government? We have a people problem.

Bob
Reply to  ethical voter
June 27, 2024 4:34 pm

Yes that’s true but the issue has nothing to do with science or climate.

Reply to  ethical voter
June 27, 2024 7:01 pm

Not voters. The real government power lies with the quangocracy, Civil Servants and the judiciary and supra national organisations to whom law making has been contracted out. We still implement most EU law, despite Brexit. Politicians have very little say, other than Yes.

Curious George
June 27, 2024 12:04 pm

Long Live Socialism via Net Zero!

Coeur de Lion
June 27, 2024 12:44 pm

Do we know what Net Zero is for?

ethical voter
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
June 27, 2024 2:44 pm

See above.

Reply to  Coeur de Lion
June 27, 2024 7:02 pm

The Office. Unfortunately it won’t be as comical. But it will seek to impose its power through a lack of power.

June 27, 2024 12:59 pm

One only need look at the history of the 18th amendment to the US constitution “prohibition” to realize how stupid even a democracy can behave.

MrGrimNasty
June 27, 2024 1:06 pm
MrGrimNasty
June 27, 2024 1:37 pm

Yes Minister on global warming.
Sketches still stand up fairly well.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 27, 2024 7:04 pm

The incomparable Nigel Hawthorne.

J Boles
June 27, 2024 1:43 pm

Story tip – video EV batts/heat – Extreme heat impact on electric vehicles (youtube.com)

ilma630
June 27, 2024 2:27 pm

Time for a new series of Yes Minister me thinks.

Mr.
Reply to  ilma630
June 27, 2024 5:36 pm

If you enjoyed that, check out the Australian series “Hollow Men” and “Utopia” .
They hilariously take the piss out of disconnected politicians & bureaucrats.

Working Dog Productions.

gezza1298
June 27, 2024 2:57 pm

The output of the Department of Net Zero will be a real zero as one of the first things Sir Kneeler Flip Flop U-turn will learn is that all his targets are unachievable. For example, even if he could find a way of constructing and then erecting 4 times more windmills at sea than we currently have, there is no resource available to lay the cables until 2030 – a year after the next election. We could take bets as to how many weeks, months or years it is before his government is in crisis.

Editor
Reply to  gezza1298
June 27, 2024 4:29 pm

I don’t think that would be a problem for Rishi Starmer when he wins office from Kier Sunak. He can put up some wind turbines, tick somee boxes, and not bother to lay cables. He gets the added bonus of a grid not being degraded. As long as people didn’t see any grid improvement, they would never know that the turbines hadn’t been connected. Oh yes, and the little box at the top could be left empty so it would save having to buy lots of rare earths from China.

June 27, 2024 6:05 pm

But it will give a few more flunkies a way to pull in a large salary.

June 27, 2024 9:33 pm

They have never seen the irony and humor in the phrase “net zero”. That’s because irony and humor are beyond their ken.

June 27, 2024 9:35 pm

I’m waiting for the Lib Dems to announce their Office for “Net Zero -1” and the so-called Tories “Net Zero -2”

June 27, 2024 10:13 pm

Story Tip:

Rushie Sunik has announced the Tories’ path to Net Zero will be called the Ministry of Silly Walks

https://youtu.be/iV2ViNJFZC8?si=Vj3FsCGkQhViJheX

That’ll achieve just as much in the “fight” against carbon

Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 27, 2024 11:16 pm

C3P0 has a better sense of humour than Sunak and is way more human. R2-D2 is taller.

John XB
June 28, 2024 5:30 am

In fact Net Zero describes the Labour Party in Government – what our wealth and economy will be worth if they make it through the next 5 years.

rtj1211
June 28, 2024 6:04 am

Tasks for ‘Net Zero Office’:

  1. Cut off all gas/coal/nuclear-based energy supplies to all Labour MPs, Labour Party Members and known Labour Party Supporters. Let them set an appropriate example of how to live solely with ‘clean energy’.
  2. Make it an imprisonable offence for any public official representing the Labour Party to ever get on an aeroplane, ever again.
  3. Remove the right to car ownership from all Uk citizens who voted for the Labour Party in 2024.
  4. Ban all immigration from any dark skinned people who need houses to be warmer than that temperature deemed acceptable by Net Zero green extremists.
  5. Shut down all weapons manufacturers in the UK that use ‘dirty fuel’ during manufacture.
  6. Ban all methane-producing ‘green energy sources’, as the chance of a leak would render all ‘green-ness’ null and void.
  7. Expect the entire population to live without synthetic clothing, as that requires oil-based starting materials.
  8. Turn all labour voters into vegans, as all those shitting cows just make our publicity look embarrassing.
  9. Encourage 25 million people to emigrate to India and China, where no such regulations exist.
  10. Sell the UK to Vladimir Putin, as we don’t have the ability to make weapons in a Net Zero world.