Deputy Leader Of Germany’s Centre-Right Party: Country in A “Green Fairy Tale World”

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By P Gosselin

The Deputy Leader of Germany’s Christian Democratic Union Jens Spahn warns that the current socialist-green government is leading the country into a “green fairy tale world” and sharply citicizes the country’s the nuclear phase-out.

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CDU deputy leader, Jens Spahn. Wikipedia

In an interview with on Deutschlandfunk radio, he said: “It was a green fairy tale world where the facts were twisted.”

“The CDU and CSU parliamentary group executive has decided to set up an investigative committee. The parliamentary group still has to vote on this. At least a quarter of the members of the Bundestag must vote in favor – the CDU/CSU has enough seats to make this possible,” reports Germany’s Blackout News here, citing (welt: 04.06.24).

The CDU’s change of heart on nuclear power comes as a surprise to voters who still have a memory: It was Angela Merkel’s CDU party that led the phaseout of nuclear power in a panic response to the nuclear disaster at Fukushima in March, 2011. The CDU’s recent reversal is a strong indication of just how dire Germany’s energy situation has become.

Spahn also criticized the current socialist green government, saying its ministries are run like NGOs and asked “whether there was a green system of governance that placed party interests above those of the country.”The CDU deputy leader also accuses the current government of “dishonesty” and says transparency is urgently needed.

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D Sandberg
June 10, 2024 10:25 pm

 “It was Angela Merkel’s CDU party that led the phaseout of nuclear power in a panic response to the nuclear disaster at Fukushima in March, 2011. The CDU’s recent reversal is a strong indication of just how dire Germany’s energy situation has become”.

CDU/CSU got a wakeup call with the pro-nuclear AfD party last Sunday getting 16.5% of the EU Parliamentary vote making the Alliance for Deutschland the second largest political group in Germany, The CDU/CSU is probably more worried about their political power than the Country’s electrical power.

June 10, 2024 10:41 pm

The CDU’s change of heart on nuclear power comes as a surprise to voters who still have a memory: It was Angela Merkel’s CDU party that led the phaseout of nuclear power in a panic response to the nuclear disaster at Fukushima in March, 2011.

The phaseout was decided more than a decade before that.

They won’t turn back, and most other countries will follow in the next two decades too.

Bill Toland
Reply to  MyUsername
June 11, 2024 12:40 am

You really don’t like nuclear power. A century from now, global electricity demand will be many times greater than today and most of that electricity will be generated by nuclear power. Fossil fuels are finite and there is no other credible alternative which can provide reliable power at the scale required.

Reply to  Bill Toland
June 11, 2024 1:44 am

Luser doesn’t like ANYTHING that actually works for western civilisation.

Reply to  bnice2000
June 11, 2024 2:55 am

Follows the golden rule of leftism — Do the opposite of whatever makes sense.

Reply to  SteveG
June 11, 2024 4:19 am

…and causes the most damage to the oppressed minority victim groups they claim to care so much about.

Reply to  bnice2000
June 11, 2024 4:24 am

so he probably uses zero fossil fuels? and buys/owns nothing made with the help of fossil fuels? he’s a green energy saint?

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 11, 2024 3:55 pm

Actually, Luser relies almost totally on fossil fuels for everything in its pitiful existence.

A rabid hypocrite.

Mr Ed
Reply to  Bill Toland
June 11, 2024 7:22 am

Story tip=====>

https://apnews.com/article/bill-gates-nuclear-terrapower-wyoming-climate-change-electricity-23176f33200b22b9ede7f4ccf4f2ec3b

Nuclear will phase out the wind solar trend IMO. I personally see a modular
type of plant with most being of the same design and scale not the current massive
plants, a modified version of the propulsion type used by the navy.

Reply to  Bill Toland
June 11, 2024 3:01 pm

Not only he doesn’t like nuclear power, he also has problems with reality and facts.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 11, 2024 1:04 am

From the Blackout News piece his issue seems to be at the moment only with the nuclear turn off – which has been an issue for the CDU for quite some time. The original law mandating a turn-off passed in 2002. But in 2010 when the CDU and FDP came to power, the extended the date of the turn-off by around ten years.

Then came Fukushima in 2011, and that led to a reaction of what one can only call panic. They went back to the turn-off with the hope that wind and solar would replace nuclear, but having (like everyone else) no idea how to deal with intermittency.

Will they turn back? Hard to say. They have already extended the life of a small number of plants, so that is a clue. These rather outspoken remarks are another clue.

The political class is faced with the same choice as faces the UK. You move everyone to EVs and heat pumps which will double demand. Then there is the natural growth of demand, at the moment spearheaded by AI and server farm installations.

You cannot supply this from wind and solar, because intermittency. You can’t even supply existing demand levels. So you have two choices, one to have blackouts and an unreliable supply. They may drift into that in the fantasy world on energy and climate that the political class in the English speaking world + Germany are living in.

Or they may in time come to see that they have to build more reliable capacity. It sounds like Spahn has concluded, and he must have a lot of support within the CDU, that building out is the answer, and that within that, what is needed is nuclear.

Reply to  michel
June 11, 2024 4:26 am

“You cannot supply this from wind and solar, because intermittency.”

Could always spend many trillions of dollars or pounds or Euros for giant batteries. 🙂

auto
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 11, 2024 1:34 pm

Could always spend many trillions of dollars or pounds or Euros” you don’t have …
Socialists, you see.
Running out of OPM.

Other People’s Money.
And, JZ, you know that, too – you’re from Wokeachusetts.
And you’ve seen it!

Auto

sturmudgeon
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 12, 2024 4:26 pm

Someone has identified that giants need batteries?

oeman50
Reply to  michel
June 11, 2024 4:34 am

I thought at the time the Germans just made sense, due to all the tsunamis in Germany.

strativarius
Reply to  MyUsername
June 11, 2024 2:55 am

They won’t turn back, and most other countries will follow in the next two decades too.”

Sounds very much like Arctic summers will be ice free by 2013…. They still aren’t.

MiloCrabtree
Reply to  MyUsername
June 11, 2024 3:39 am

Get lost, troll.

Keitho
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Reply to  MyUsername
June 11, 2024 4:34 am

Why?

Dieter Schultz
Reply to  MyUsername
June 11, 2024 12:50 pm

They won’t turn back, and most other countries will follow in the next two decades too.

Germany’s energy costs are multiples of the US’ energy costs and they are at risk of losing manufacturing to the nations with the lowest energy costs, primarily the US. Add to those challenges that the per capita GDP of Europe states compare unfavorably to some of the US’ less dynamic states and, it seems to me that if they don’t turn back they will become, like Argentina, a footnote in history to illustrate what national insanity can do to once economically powerful nations.

kenji
June 10, 2024 10:44 pm

Germany doesn’t need all that messy, polluting, energy intensive manufacturing industry. Nahhhh … that can all be exported to Communist China, Vietnam, or India. The Germans can then live in an e-nirvana working remotely in the “service” industry. Then the green fairytale can come true! Ex FED Chair Greenspan said as much about America … we don’t NEED messy industry to make stuff. “Learn to code” (sic) … Yeayyyyy Socialism! (Sic, sic, sic)

https://cen.acs.org/business/finance/BASF-cutting-back-main-site/101/web/2023/02

Reply to  kenji
June 11, 2024 4:28 am

“The Germans can then live in an e-nirvana working remotely in the “service” industry.”

Or I’m sure they’ll be happy going back to the land as farmers and loggers. With mules and hand saws of course.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 11, 2024 6:15 am

…going back to the land as farmers and loggers…

In a country and society where using fertilizers and cutting trees is illegal.

Reply to  Phil R
June 11, 2024 7:55 am

Wokachusetts definitely wants to end all logging. I’ve heard that if you own a property in Cambridge (next to Bah-stin) and you have a yard tree you want to remove- you have to have 3 arborists sign off a document saying the tree is dying or dead!

kenji
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 11, 2024 9:14 am

Here in my N.CA suburb, where the Greens rule the roost … every oak tree is sacred. And if you DO manage to obtain a tree cutting permit, you have to plant replacement oaks at the ratio of 3 new 24” box oaks for each 6” of caliper size of the tree you remove. So if you cut a 24” dia. Oak … well … you’re all scientists here … you do the math. And then tell me where you will plant those 12 new oaks on your 1/2 acre property?

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 11, 2024 11:47 am

3/4″ drill bit at base/root on 4 sides of tree.
2″ deep.
fill with roundup, or crossbow, or thick saline.
repeat as necessary, depending on method.

(most communities have ‘firewise’ type programs. when the tree is obviously dead, have the fire dept come out and provide you with a fire protection assessment for your property.)

Reply to  DonM
June 11, 2024 12:12 pm

copper nails do the job better and are less obvious

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 11, 2024 3:05 pm

And chukudus
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sturmudgeon
Reply to  Krishna Gans
June 12, 2024 4:30 pm

Picture: “where there’s a will, there’s a way”.

Reply to  kenji
June 11, 2024 4:34 am

can then live in an e-nirvana working remotely in the “service” industry

Yes, that seems to be the economic system aimed for in all western countries:
We will all live by being Baristas, making coffee for each other.

Reply to  markx
June 11, 2024 7:56 am

Then you’ll have to have a man bun, a goatee and lots of tattoos.

kenji
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 11, 2024 9:22 am

You forgot the face piercings and body mutilation. Because you’re bored, and left wondering if this is ALL that life is about …

June 10, 2024 11:41 pm

Can the nuclear power plants be restarted?

Reply to  Harold Pierce
June 11, 2024 12:57 am

Restarting a nuclear plant that was intended to be restarted after a shutdown is a finnicky business, as Chernobyl showed. Restarting one that may already have had a lot of surrounding equipment removed…maybe not even possible.

But the big problem is the fuel. You don’t just wake up in the morning and order some for overnight delivery. It has to be booked years ahead.

Reply to  quelgeek
June 11, 2024 1:35 am

After the shut down, what happened to the fuel? Did they sell it to France?

kenji
Reply to  quelgeek
June 11, 2024 9:24 am

You can’t just ring up Hillary Clinton and get a few tonnes of Uranium?

June 11, 2024 12:26 am

On the other hand, Spahn was the responsible Health Minister as Corona started….

Robertvd
Reply to  Krishna Gans
June 11, 2024 1:14 am

So a NWO puppet too.

strativarius
June 11, 2024 1:00 am

Big problems coming up. EU goes right, UK remains(!) well on the left…

Ed Zuiderwijk
June 11, 2024 1:43 am

What do you expect from the land of the Grimm brothers, purveyors of fairy tales par excellence. And for the Germans the Net Zero tale will be grim indeed.

strativarius
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
June 11, 2024 1:45 am

Grandma… what big wind turbines you have

Reply to  strativarius
June 11, 2024 3:15 pm

There was a Fary Tale Forest, large and with a lot of old trees, will now be victim of Green obsession in form of wind mills.

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Scarecrow Repair
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
June 11, 2024 6:55 am

But it was Disney that made them safe for children.

observa
June 11, 2024 4:53 am

And we’re stuck with Labor/Teal/Greens too stupid to see the obvious-
Europe’s net zero goals are ‘collapsing very quickly’ (msn.com)

observa
June 11, 2024 5:41 am

Good luck with the German auto industry too-
Electric vehicle rollout ‘hitting a bit of a roadblock’ (msn.com)
Australia finally gave up subsidising carmaking rather fortuitously in 2016 so we’re now luxuriating in a flood of the world’s cheapest throwaway appliance cars as that’s what modern computers on wheels have become.

To some extent cars as whitegoods has occurred due to the need to make them light with crash crumple safety so they’ve now reached an iron law format that can’t be beat and why there’s a sameness about them and the way they have to be constructed. Open any door on a lux car or a base runabout and note the hinges door locks rubber seals internal door panels and how they fit together and it’s the same deal with every car. (prefer your soft long chain polymers to your hard or your nappa leather to your cloth do you?)

So what does it cost and how convenient is it to use and what can I flip it for in 3-5 years is the question for most new car buyers as the badge doesn’t mean much anymore. Depreciation is always first and foremost and that’s a sad discovery process for EV early adopters now.

mleskovarsocalrrcom
June 11, 2024 7:27 am

Reality has caught up.

Edward Katz
June 11, 2024 6:08 pm

It’s ironic that a country known for its practicality should have been conned by the eco-alarmists into adopting all sorts of expensive, unreliable energy policies. Maybe now that they and most of the rest of Europe have seen the folly of their ways as indicated by the recent EU elections, they’ll get back to reality. Germany didn’t rise to the position of the country with the world’s 4th largest GDP by relying on expensive and intermittent energy sources.

June 11, 2024 11:09 pm

German Electric Car Manufacturer Fails —

Next E-Go Mobile, a spin-off from the Technical University of Aachen, was once seen as a beacon of hope in the electric vehicle market.

But the company failed to achieve the necessary breakthrough.

The failure of the E-Wave X model, which never reached series production, was a financial setback.

Despite high-profile marketing efforts, including the involvement of football star Neymar as a brand ambassador, the company was unable to secure the needed financial backing.
Lacking investor support, the small car manufacturer had no choice but to file for bankruptcy.

The impact of this failure is significant: approximately 200 employees will lose their jobs, as they will soon receive their notices of termination.

The company’s remaining assets will now be liquidated to pay off debts.