Hurricane Idalia

Hurricanes 2023: Andrew Dessler’s Hollow Alarm

From MasterResource

By Robert Bradley Jr.

“… your argument appears to rely on the same tactic you disparage in others: ‘the selective emphasis of certain facts that bolster their stance’…. You omit the abundant and vital array of studies…. You’re also way out of date.” – Andy Revkin to Dessler (below)

Last summer/fall was supposed to be another hurricane season of note, according to climate scientist/alarmist/activist Andrew Dessler. On June 12, 2023, he wrote in “Climate change is making hurricanes more destructive” (Substack):

Because hurricanes are one of the big-ticket weather disasters that humanity has to face, climate misinformers spend a lot of effort muddying the waters on whether climate change is making hurricanes more damaging. With the official start to the 2023 hurricane season in the North Atlantic on June 1, I figured it was time to explain why we can be so confident that hurricanes are indeed more destructive today due to climate change….

His explanations were a tee-up to an anticipated big hurricane season with the cycle in the upward direction. But nope. It was a pretty average year with the U.S. spared (probably a disappointment to Dessler and the other climate alarmists).

The Texas A&M professor gives his reasons for alarm and then attempts to discredit his critics:

Climate misinformers will respond that sea level only contributes a few percent to the total flood depth. But the non-linearity of flood damages means that even a small contribution from sea level rise to total flood depth can increase damages a lot.

But Andy, if the number of hurricanes declines because of anthropogenic forces, and if natural forces are increasing sea level too …. And speaking of incremental change (a valid concept), what about the decline in incremental forcing from each unit of CO2 emissions given the saturation effect? AND if adaptation helped by an absence of climate policy reduces the incremental effect …. Your take is cherry picking, focusing on one part of the picture (the alarmist part) without bringing in the whole. Ditto to the positives of CO2 enrichment on the global ecosphere that go unmentioned.

Dessler then gets to the predictions:

It is likely that the global proportion of Category 3–5 tropical cyclone instances … have increased globally over the past 40 years. and this will continue in the future: the proportion of Category 4–5 TCs will very likely increase globally with warming.

He does state some caveats, but in the name of humility and unsettled science, this should have fronted his post. Dessler does not know what he doesn’t know (or what cannot be known) to fall back on his simplistic view of climate causality. Here is his backhanded admission with some good news tucked in (darn, he must think to himself):

What we’re not sure about: number of tropical cyclones. We don’t have a good handle on what determines how many TCs form annually. Every year there are around 100 of these storms globally, and we don’t know why it’s that number and not, say, 10 or 1000. Without a basic theory, we have little confidence in how the number of TCs will change as the climate warms, although most models predict that the number of TCs will decline.

Dessler loves to offend (part of the PR campaign where no quarter can be given to critics, à la Michael Mann):

What we’re not sure about: monetary damage from tropical cyclones. Every climate misinformer loves loves loves to talk about how, there’s no trend in the observed (normalized) damage. I could explain why this is wrong, but Prof. Kerry Emanuel already did it and you should just read what he wrote.

And

Another reliable yardstick is to ask the people who have money on the line: insurance companies. If you do that, the verdict is clear: insurance premiums are skyrocketing and companies are fleeing places that are vulnerable to TCs (Florida, Louisiana) — exactly what you would expect in a world where the risk of TC damage was going up.

And he has to give it to his critics one more time: “The ‘no increase in damages’ is not a very good argument for the many reasons that Emanuel explained [and] deserves to be dropped into the dustbin of history, but it’s so useful to climate misinformers that I’m sure it will never disappear.”

Dessler summarizes:

This post has only touched on the ways that TCs are getting more damaging…. When arguing against this, climate misinformers don’t necessarily propagate outright lies. Rather, their method of misinformation lies in the selective emphasis of certain facts that bolster their stance. For example, they will focus on statistics like the number of storms, emphasizing that we don’t see any increase while conveniently omitting that climate scientists don’t predict an increase….

This is classic cherry picking. Instead of the selective offering of climate misinformers, you should look at all of the data. If you do that, it’s clear that hurricanes and other TCs are getting more destructive.

Pushback/Comment Dissent

“All the data”? The big picture? Let’s do that! Bjorn Lomborg, Roger Pielke Jr., Ryan Maue …. Maue has recently crunched the data to find non-alarming trends in hurricane number and intensity, which Dessler ignores in his “it should be this” in my simplified world. But in this case, commenters put Dessler on defense with cause:

Roger Pielke Jr.:

Andy, If you’d unblock me on Twitter we could discuss this topic out in the open. Meantime:

1. Your piece repeats a major error made in the IPCC (confusing fixes with storms):

2. Here is a more comprehensive look at the scientific consensus on tropical cyclones

A serious rebuttal, but Dessler has to resort to sarcasm and disrespect:

Andrew Dessler: Hey Roger, ol’ chum! Great to hear from you! Bringing the heat, as always, my friend! I can’t believe I still block you, let me undo that immediately! Then we can hang out on twitter and reminisce about the great times we had, like the time you accused me without evidence of plagiarizing an oped! Man, that was hilarious! Now where’s that unblock button …

Andy Revkin registered his concern to Dessler:

Andy @Revkin This is not an either/or issue, as you note (either climate change or societal change driving tropical cyclone “impacts”). But your argument appears to rely on the same tactic you disparage in others: “the selective emphasis of certain facts that bolster their stance.”

For instance, I don’t know how anyone can omit the vital NOAA guidance on hurricanes and climate change: https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes/

You omit the abundant and vital array of studies of “paleotempestology” records showing that strong hurricanes can be frequent in periods when sea temperate were cooler: See Jeff Donnelly’s work over the last two decades, a 2007 study I wrote up in The New York Times: “Over the last 5,000 years, the eastern Caribbean has experienced several periods, lasting centuries, in which strong hurricanes occurred frequently even though ocean temperatures were cooler than those measured today, according to a new study.” https://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/24/science/earth/24storm.html

You’re also way out of date. Relying on Kerry Emanuel’s near-decade-old rebuttal to Roger’s 538 post misses Roger’s subsequent output (see links in his reply to this post) and misses Kerry’s important recent work with PhD advisee Rapahel Rousseau-Rizzi nailing down that shifts in *aerosol* pollution have been the dominant shaper of recent North Atlantic hurricane patterns (not CO2-driven warming): Natural and anthropogenic contributions to the hurricane drought of the 1970s–1980s: https://texmex.mit.edu/pub/emanuel/PAPERS/Rousseau-Rizzi_Emanuel_2022_published.pdf

Ken Rice: As far as I can see, none of that actually contradicts what Andy has written in this post. All else being equal, warmer sea surface temperatures will tend to increase the intensity of a TC. However, there are other factors that could change the frequency of TCs, so that warming may lead to fewer TCs overall.

Andy @Revkin: His post is about hurricane *destructiveness* and loss, with intensity just one of the factors that can increase loss. Most of the others are societal sources of vulnerability, as countless disaster researchers have found. Think back to Hurricane Dorian’s damage in the Bahamas. Most of the islands recovered rapidly. The Haitian migrant workers who lived in the informal settlement called The Mudd were devastated. Same hurricane, different impacts. This Guardian report by David Smith really nailed the reality: ‘The poor are punished’: Dorian lays bare inequality in the Bahamas 

Andy @Revkin. … What is important, to my eye, in the wider climate activism world is to reconsider the longstanding practice (goes back to An Inconvenient Truth) of making the climate > hurricanes story all about emissions reduction (discounting what you and I just stressed, which is the need to reduce risk by all means necessary).

I strongly sense – based on decades of reporting – that emissions-focused arguments for action are dangerously obscuring the need for aggressive changes on the ground to cut risk where vulnerability is greatest. Sift for the #expandingbullseye hashtag. Same issues in hurricane, fire, flood zones both rich and poor. Here’s a snippet from Florida: Here from Colorado wildfire country. And emissions cuts are needed forever, as I’ve been writing since 1988.

Final Comment

The 2023 Atlantic hurricane season: 20 named storms, 7 hurricanes, and 3 major hurricanes versus the “average” of 14 named storms, 7 hurricanes, and 3 major hurricanes. Last year tied 1933 as the fourth most active…. So where is the greenhouse signal in all this?

The moral of the story? Don’t whine for global government and the rule of ‘experts’. Don’t exaggerate. Prepare for change (Revkin, above). And adaptation to change requires … abundant, affordable, resilient, flexible energies–the fossil fuels primarily.

But Andrew Dessler wants none of this. His latest post is against LNG (backing Biden’s recent “pause’) that will not only encourage more coal usage abroad in the short-term, it will encourage the building of more coal capacity long-term. Enough said….

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rah
February 6, 2024 6:19 am

The alarmist academics, as a rule, run away when their predictions of doom are not realized.

Reply to  rah
February 6, 2024 7:01 am

We didn’t hear much out of the hurricane alarmists from about 2006 to 2017.

Not many major hurricanes appeared during that time period. It was “crickets” from the climate alarmist community.

All that time CO2 was increasing but not the major hurricanes.

mleskovarsocalrrcom
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2024 7:37 am

But we did hear from them in 2005 when they stated hurricanes were going to get more powerful and increase in numbers. Then 10 years with nothing above CAT2 hit the US.

Tom Halla
February 6, 2024 6:24 am

“Trust me. This time my predictions will come true, despite my track record”?

rah
Reply to  Tom Halla
February 6, 2024 8:28 am

Yea like Dessler’s claim about a permanent drought for Texas and the SW U.S.

Reply to  Tom Halla
February 6, 2024 11:07 am

Most climate enthusiasts are simple creatures who think linearly, just in straight lines; Dessler is no different, a mediocre mind in a mediocre group.

Tom in Florida
February 6, 2024 6:34 am

One of the issues is the number of named storms. The last couple of years very short lived, well out to sea, minimal storms are being named. It is as if they just can’t wait to give a 39mph swirl of clouds a name and report it.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Tom in Florida
February 6, 2024 7:46 am

He makes that claim like it is an objective measure. We never had named winter storms before the Weather Channel went full-stupid so I guess we never had winter storms.

rah
Reply to  Tom in Florida
February 6, 2024 8:09 am

Average ACE of named storms is considerably lower than it was a decade ago. And Thr NHC is naming marginal storms out in the middle of the ocean not projected to survive or make landfall anywhere that they wouldn’t have named in the past.

So the number of named storms is based on subjective judgements and not a viable historic reference.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
February 6, 2024 8:12 am

There have been changes to operations at the National Hurricane Center over the decades. Now days, they have the ability to monitor weak systems in greater detail than ever before. They are much more likely to detect when a system has reached tropical storm status than just 10 years ago. But as important, the unofficial rules about when to name a system have changed. They used to wait 24 hours after a system was declared a tropical depression before upgrading it to a named tropical storm. That was, in part, due to the uncertainties in detecting the strength of a system via satellite. But that ‘rule’ went out the door as the hurricane specialists became more confidant of their satellite data. So now we find they will upgrade a system to named storm when in the past they wouldn’t have. This means weak systems that only reach tropical storm-force for a few hours are counted when in the past they wouldn’t have. This rise in ‘shorties’ has caused an inflation in named storm numbers.

pillageidiot
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
February 6, 2024 11:31 am

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

I can easily predict a future trend … if I am the one that gets to manipulate the data to fit my desired trend.

February 6, 2024 6:41 am

…hurricanes are indeed more destructive today due to climate change….
____________________________________________________________

No, it’s because there’s more stuff to wreck.

Besides that, there’s more ways to detect them and more people to see them.

And Ryan Maue Doesn’t show any trends since 1970.

Reply to  Steve Case
February 6, 2024 6:44 am

Try this link:

https://climatlas.com/tropical/

for Ryan Maue

rah
Reply to  Steve Case
February 6, 2024 8:19 am

In inflation adjusted dollars the CAT 4 storm that hit Miami in 1926 is still the most destructive in financial terms.

The 1935 hurricane that hit the keys the strongest to make landfall in the U.S.

The CAT 4 Galveston Hurricane of 1900 the deadliest to hit U.S. shores. 8,000 fatalities is likely low as the storm continued to cause fatalities as it went inland and arced up towards the Great Lakes. Contemporary accounts put the total count at 12,000z

Reply to  rah
February 6, 2024 9:14 am

Years ago some media outlet maybe 60Minutes or other did a documentary on the Galveston storm. I know this because my favorite liberal talked about it. BUT the average left-wing public school product since 1990 doesn’t know about it. I only know about it because I follow web sites like WUWT.

rah
Reply to  Steve Case
February 6, 2024 10:44 pm

I think that storm is probably the deadliest natural disaster in U.S. history. Of course I would not be surprised if some would like to change the definition of a natural disaster to include things like the Flu pandemic of 1918, ie: the Spanish flu

rah
Reply to  Steve Case
February 7, 2024 12:50 am

After that great storm at Galveston they built a massive sea wall. It still stands today. But last I saw it has not been maintained. Over the years in many places sand has piled up covering almost 1/2 of the walls height.

It has been a number of years since I have seen anything written about it. So perhaps things have changed. Is there anyone here that has newer info? Or better yet first hand knowledge about this issue?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  rah
February 6, 2024 6:24 pm

In inflation adjusted dollars the CAT 4 storm that hit Miami in 1926 is still the most destructive in financial terms.”

Construction standards are different now, as well.

February 6, 2024 6:49 am

The Hoax: an interview with Dr. Neil Frank, former Director, National Hurricane Center 
We are told there are more hurricanes than ever because of climate change? Does the world’s foremost senior hurricane statesman agree with that? In this episode you will be fascinated to hear what the former Director of the National Hurricane Center, Dr. Neil Frank, says about climate change and the biggest storms on earth.”



February 6, 2024 6:57 am

Well, it looks like *all* insurance rates are going higher, not just for hurricane insurance.

Biden-inflation has a lot to do with it. Everything costs more because of Biden-induced inflation, so insurance rates go up.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2024 8:20 am

…Bidenflation… …Bidenduced inflation… TFIFY

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2024 8:20 am

As home prices rise, existing home values go up per comparable sales. That in turn requires insurance to match the new home value. My hurricane insurance went up about $100 this year due to my home valuation increasing.

rah
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2024 8:21 am

And companies are dropping coverage because their rates cannot keep up with inflation.

February 6, 2024 6:58 am

Ken Rice:
There’s a blast from the past.

Reply to  MCourtney
February 6, 2024 10:53 am

IS that mr “has-no-physics”?

terry
February 6, 2024 8:16 am

I’ve watched Dessler perform on Rogan and against Koonin in a debate. I’m not a scientist, but I was a litigation lawyer for 40 years so I have a sensitive b.s. detector. He’s a fool, don’t waste your time on him.

Ed Zuiderwijk
February 6, 2024 8:32 am

It appears to me that Dressler is a reality misinformer.

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
February 6, 2024 11:09 am

Or an arsehole. Either works.

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
February 6, 2024 1:52 pm

He has deeply drunk the climate crisis Kool aide thus can’t see the reality anymore.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
February 6, 2024 6:26 pm

Yeah, but what about Dessler?

Editor
February 6, 2024 9:25 am

It’s not true that it was the 4th most active season

Hurricanes and majors were bang on average. It was non-hurricane “named storms” which were much higher than average, but this is because they now “name” more storms, even extratropical storms, not because more are actually occurring

Reply to  Paul Homewood
February 6, 2024 9:38 am

Because they can see these little spinners with the satellites

February 6, 2024 9:32 am
“It is likely that the global proportion of Category 3–5 tropical cyclone instances … have increased globally over the past 40 years”
we have data, what’s with the “likely” Andy?
No faith?
rah
February 6, 2024 9:45 am

And the alarmists certainly don’t want to talk about how weak last years pacific hurricane/typhoon/cyclone season was. A near record low during when there was an El Niño. Even though SSTs were generally elevated all across the Pacific.

February 6, 2024 10:30 am

Ask any experienced east coast surfer, 2023 was going to suck. El Nino means a bad summer for surf overall. There will be some, but not much good. The whole wind shearing just means less fun.
2024 will be the same.

Bob
February 6, 2024 12:39 pm

When did the CAGW crowd decide more CO2 in the atmosphere wouldn’t change the number of hurricanes?

rah
February 6, 2024 2:18 pm

Another factor the alarmists don’t want to talk about. The Hurricanes are trending towards being smaller. Last year the only large storm was Lee.

Size does matter in Hurricanes.

antigtiff
February 6, 2024 5:34 pm

The oceans are becoming ever rising boiling cauldrons of acid …..and Category 6 and Category 7 storms ravish the land…and Category 8 are just ahead….Oh, the humanity!

Frederick Michael
February 6, 2024 9:00 pm

How many of the 2023 named storms would have gone undetected with 1933 technology?

February 6, 2024 9:10 pm

Australia’s left-wing academic platform The Conversation today had an article (https://theconversation.com/is-it-time-for-a-category-6-for-super-cyclones-no-warnings-of-floods-or-storm-surges-are-more-useful-222736) questioning if it’s time for a Category 6 for super cyclones, with their email link to the article saying  “Cyclones and hurricanes are getting more intense. But introducing new categories of storm may not be the answer.”

It’s worth visiting the BoM’s website at http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/tropical-cyclone-knowledge-centre/history/climatology/ to gauge whether cyclones are getting more intense.

No real need to read the text but if you just do a short scroll down the page there’s a graphic making clear that the frequency and intensity of cyclones have substantial declined from 1970-71 to 2022-23.

The text on that page is actually a somewhat amusing effort by a probably grumpy BoM to explain the reduction in cyclone frequency and intensity, their best hope being that rainfall from future cyclones is “likely” to increase.

After 53 years of very strong evidence that cyclones are less frequent and weaker, how do the BoM, the academics and the media maintain their fallacy that these extreme weather events are getting more frequent and intense because of climate change?