New York City Goes Pedal to the Metal on Electric Vehicles.

I can’t wait for Francis Menton or Roger Caiazza to weigh in on this.


Statements from Speaker Adams and Majority Leader Powers on Mayor Adams Signing Council Legislation to Make New York City the Largest U.S. City to Require a Zero Emissions Vehicle Fleet into Law

October 23, 2023

New York, NY – Speaker Adrienne Adams and Majority Leader Keith Powers, the lead sponsor of Introduction 279, which would make New York City the largest municipality in the nation to requires its fleet to consist of zero emission vehicles, released statements celebrating the legislation being signed into law. In addition to requiring the City to only purchase zero emissions light- and medium-duty vehicles after 2025 so that all such vehicles are electric by 2035, the bill would also require all heavy-duty vehicles purchased after 2028 to be zero emissions, and ensure the entire municipal fleet is converted by 2038. This would not only make New York City a national leader, but would exceed the goals of the United Nations Climate Change Conference of the Parties (COP27) in its international agreement. The bill also requires the training of city workers on the repair and maintenance of electric vehicles to preserve existing workers’ jobs.

“New York City continues to set the standard for sustainability by becoming the largest city in the nation to require its fleet to be entirely made up of zero emission vehicles,” said Speaker Adrienne Adams. “The Council is proud to champion legislative efforts to address the environmental and health impacts of vehicle pollution, reduce our carbon footprint, and prepare our workforce for the repair and maintenance of electric vehicles. I thank Majority Leader Keith Powers for his leadership on this critical legislation, my Council colleagues for supporting policies that transition us to a more sustainable future, and Mayor Adams for signing the bill into law.”

“New York City continues to lead the country in creating a greener, more sustainable world,” said Majority Leader Keith Powers. “Today’s signing of Intro. 279 enacts a historic piece of legislation that will drive down our city’s carbon footprint and advance environmental justice. Starting in just two years, our city’s fleet of over 30,000 vehicles will lead the way towards a zero-emissions future. I am proud to have worked with numerous partners to have made today a reality.

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https://council.nyc.gov/press/2023/10/23/2486/

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Rod Evans
October 27, 2023 2:15 am

Hey look on the positive side, re. this latest NY decision.
We have been asking for a working example of how the ‘Green’ energy policies could be demonstrated to the world in a meaningful way.
NY is very much a world sized city, so there we have a prime candidate and NY is also blessed with some of the most left/woke political advocates out there.
Now, if the policy is met, we and the ‘alarmists’ will all be able to see the impact. Instead of us realists constantly arguing with public sector decision makers, about science and engineering issues, surrounding their much trumpeted transition to a so called ‘Green’ world, we can now look eagerly to NY to be our platform of persuasion.

One of the certainties of the NY ‘dash for crash’ policy, is those with the cash needed to pay for it will be leaving.
This coming period of public policies being rolled out by AOC and others will be like the left wing destruction of Detroit but on a much bigger and faster scale.
Get your popcorn and beer in ready. Thinking of which, the light went on at Bud (pun intended) regarding what happens when woke take over policy control. Maybe a lesson will be leaned by the Left this time (unlikely) after they have destroyed the stability of a whole city, not just a world scale drinks business.
We live in interesting times.

October 27, 2023 2:33 am

I gave these links in the wind pricing thread, and also with a story tip submission. Here are two recent, detailed, specific pieces from Real Clear Energy on the approaching EV disaster:

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2023/10/24/mega-jolt_the_costs_and_logistics_of_plugging_in_evs_are_about_to_become_supercharged_987493.html#%2F%2Ffind%2Fnearest%3Fcountry=US

https://www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2023/10/25/the_political_risks_of_mandating_evs_for_everyone_988506.html

Essential reading. Especially for Simon. Its not going to happen, what you want. Wanting is not going to make it. What is going to happen is a very different story.

Reply to  michel
October 27, 2023 4:23 am

Thanks for those links. I skimmed both articles. Let’s hope the stark reality of it all becomes clearer to more folks very quickly.

October 27, 2023 3:43 am

“Sorry. We cannot pick up the trash until the wind picks up again and we can charge the trucks.”

The crash test dummies never saw what was coming.

starzmom
October 27, 2023 6:44 am

A lot of New Yorkers will need better walking shoes, or maybe their back-to-the-1980s rollerblades and diddly boppers.

smalliot
October 27, 2023 7:06 am

By 2025 NYC will be buying nothing, no money, no one left to pay taxes to keep housing the migrants in 5 star hotels and to keep paying into the public workers bottomless pensions.

Scissor
Reply to  smalliot
October 27, 2023 8:25 am

Former 5 star hotels.

October 27, 2023 7:25 am

A “zero emission future” Today, roughly 70% of all new gasoline vehicles are EPA certified at lower pollution (NOx and PM) than EVs (GREET). I recently quantified the government ZEV policy error – they assume all brand-new vehicles are immediately emitting at their highest end-of-life emission rates. Using a different logic – i.e., reality, I find California needs over 6 million new EVs BEFORE any clean air benefit occurs. This perspective has been missed in all prior EV analysis. A similar situation applies to HD EVs vs Diesels.

Do EVs reduce NOx or PM emissions more than combustion engine vehicles? The answer may surprise you. – Stillwater Associates

October 27, 2023 7:44 am

So they’ll be renting the vehicles that do the real work.

Beta Blocker
October 27, 2023 8:55 am

Those NYC politicians who have jumped aboard the EV bandwagon know full well that the ultimate objective is to eliminate personal transportation for most people who now own their own cars. 

In a Net Zero world, few of us will be driving to Home Depot to buy ourselves a new drill or a new crosscut saw. Or to McDonalds to buy a Big Mac. Or to Macy’s to buy a new dress. Or to buy almost anything else, including groceries.  

Rather, in that fully Net Zero world, almost everyone will order what they want on-line and a delivery truck will come through their neighborhood twice a day to drop off whatever it was that was ordered. Or just three times a week if you live in the Middle of Nowhere, USA. 

For all practical purposes, it will be 1912 again: ‘The Wells Fargo Wagon’ from The Music Man.

John XB
October 27, 2023 8:56 am

I wonder where they will get the electricity to charge them – diesel generators probably – and how well they will perform in NY’s tropical Winters.

fansome
October 27, 2023 9:40 am

These busses are not zero-emission vehicles. They are Emission Elsewhere Vehicles. The power comes from coal and natural gas power plants.

fansome
October 27, 2023 9:44 am

Are NYC’s mechanics trained to maintain these new busses? That’s a big problem with other operators. These new busses become high-tech bricks when parts are not available and mechanics don’t have a clue on how to fix them.

SteveZ56
October 27, 2023 9:49 am

If NYC actually goes through with this, they will be really hurting during the next big snowstorm. Battery-powered cars are much less efficient in cold weather, so if “heavy-duty vehicles” are all electric, the electric snowplows will discharge rapidly and won’t be able to clear the streets.

Once Wall Street has to take a snow day, HIzzoner will be begging the governor of New Jersey to send hundreds of diesel-powered snowplows through the Holland or Lincoln tunnels or over the George Washington Bridge.

Rud Istvan
October 27, 2023 10:47 am

It will be very difficult for NYC in 2028 to buy only heavy duty EV trucks for stuff like snowplows and garbage removal, as they don’t exist. And likely never will.

roaddog
Reply to  Rud Istvan
October 27, 2023 9:54 pm

Contemplate now the liberal sensibility of paying plow and garbage truck drivers for long hours spent waiting for batteries to be recharged.

0perator
October 27, 2023 10:57 am

I really can’t decide if these policies are ignorance or Cloward-Piven accelerationist revolutionary acts. They take you to the same place, starving in the cold and dark.

October 27, 2023 12:29 pm

Where are the overhead wires in the picture? I don’t see any.

Edward Katz
October 27, 2023 6:03 pm

Ford has just cut back EV investment after losing $36,000 on every EV sold in the 3rd quarter of this year. So jurisdictions should be shying away from any mandates like New York’s instead of forcing consumers into buying vehicles that they don’t want enough of in the first place. However, I think enough buyer resistance could translate into loss of votes to the point where states, provinces, and entire countries will back off from such moves. In democracies people shouldn’t have certain rules and requirements jammed down their throats just to support unproven theories like combating man-made climate change.

roaddog
Reply to  Edward Katz
October 27, 2023 9:57 pm

Ford’s stock was off handily today…12.25% decline. They are a mess.

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