In matters of Catholic dogma the Holy Father in Rome is deemed infallible, but when it comes to more earthly matters surrounding climate change, Pope Francis is mostly talking through his Pontifical Posterior. At one point, Francis suggests humans emitting carbon dioxide are causing “seaquakes”, while his inner Guardian soul is on clear display with his claim that the world is “collapsing and may be nearing the breaking point”.
Pope Francis’s latest comments on climate change are contained in an ‘Apostolic Exhortation’ titled Laudate Deum. It is a follow up to an earlier doom-ridden encyclical letter in 2015 when he referred to CO2 – a gas the Supreme Pontiff emits with every breath – as highly polluting. The latest letter is full of emotional errors, unsubstantiated scientific opinions and a cold condescension for the growing number of scientists who dispute the political narrative of a climate emergency. At one point these scientists are said to bring up “allegedly solid scientific facts”.
Francis is on very shaky ground with his contention that humans somehow cause submarine earthquakes. Even more nonsensical is his suggestion that the human-caused seaquakes are leading to communities being swept away. As the Daily Sceptic recently noted, the Holy Grail of climate alarmism is to link earthquakes to humans driving their cars. Sadly to date the suggestion is only to be found at the whacky end of climate fearmongering. A recent article in the Conversation noted “evidence” that the loss of surface ice in Scandinavia triggered numerous earthquake events around 7,000-11,000 years ago. Alas, further inquiry showed that the only tectonic plate action was to be found in the circuit boards of a researcher’s computer. Seaquakes would appear to be a new field of climate alarm, suggesting Francis is well ahead of the game on this one.
The Pope is also leading the pack with his contention that melting of the continental ice sheets at the poles will not be reversed for hundreds of years. What melting of the ice sheet in Antarctica Francis is referring to is not immediately clear. Alarmists usually find Antarctica a difficult neighbourhood to run the Thermogeddon narrative. According to Singh and Polvani, warming has been “almost non-existent” for at least 70 years. NASA reports the ice loss is 0.0005% a year. In 2021, the South Pole recorded its coldest winter since records began in 1957. Meanwhile in the Arctic, a small, little publicised, cyclical recovery in sea ice has been underway for over a decade.
At one point in his letter, Francis makes the claim that it is “verifiable that specific climate changes provoked by humanity are notably heightening the probability of extreme phenomena that are increasingly frequent and intense”. Quite how it is possible to verify something that is only probable is not immediately clear, but it seems Francis is referring to the computer model-driven pseudoscience of weather attribution that has grown up in recent years. In fact its popularity is partly in response to the UN-backed Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) currently holding back from directly linking individual weather events to longer term changes in the climate.
Despite all attempts to deny, conceal, gloss over or relativise the issue, continues Francis, the signs of climate change are here and increasingly evident. No one can ignore recent extreme weather events such as droughts, floods and unusual heat, he continues. It is not possible to conceal the correlation of these global climate phenomena and the accelerated increase in greenhouse gas emissions, particularly since the mid-20th century, he argues. As regular readers will know, plenty of scientists do just that, as does the IPCC. According to its latest report, the IPCC states there is “low confidence” that humans influence droughts in most regions, while confidence is generally low in attributing changes in the probability or magnitude of flood events to human influence.
All Francis is doing is joining up the dots of recent weather anomalies and claiming a causal link to long-term climate trends. With global warming having run out of steam over the last 25 years, this practice is in common use in alarmist circles. It is used to promote the collectivist Net Zero narrative, and is profoundly unscientific.
“I feel obliged to make these clarifications, which may appear obvious, because of certain dismissive and scarcely reasonable opinions that I encounter, even within the Catholic Church,” states Francis. In fact the Pope shows no sign, as was his attitude in 2015, of listening to any alternative view – the “allegedly solid scientific data” he seems to find so distasteful. He merely repeats the collapsing and tipping point fearmongering of the green activist lobby. In doing so he does a disservice to a tradition of Church support and patronage to the scientific process through monasteries, funded hospitals, schools and universities. The Catholic Church teaches that faith in God and science are complementary, with the Catechism noting that “methodical research in all branches of knowledge, providing it is carried out in a truly scientific manner and does not override moral laws, can never conflict with the faith, because the things of the world and the things of faith derive from the same God”.
Of course it would take a longer article than this to identify many of the inevitable past conflicts between the Church authorities and some of the findings of science (don’t mention Galileo). So far as the climate story is concerned, scientists are just starting to comprehend the complexities of the non-linear atmosphere. However, it is perhaps not surprising that the Vatican has hitched its influential wagon to current unproven scientific narratives that serve a largely political purpose. In a 2020 encyclical letter, Francis spoke of the possibility of a world authority “equipped with the power to provide for the global common good”. The world Government should be given “real authority in such a way as to provide for the attainment of certain goals”. In this way , there could come about a multilateralism that is not dependent on changing political conditions or the interest of a certain few, and possesses a stable efficacy, he concluded.
Possibly this is papal speak for no more Trump, Farage, Brexit and all those other annoying inconveniences of national democracy.
Chris Morrison is the Daily Sceptic’s Environment Editor.
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Does this amount to targeting geologists who don’t believe the subterranean threat of CO2? Does the Vatican need to be reported to the Southern Poverty Law Center?
Since he espouses beliefs that would harm many billions of people causing countless deaths I suggest he changes religion.
Maybe one of those old fashioned South American religions that takes a more direct approach to killing humans on their altars.
Just more “Papal Bull”
Again I don’t care what the Pope says or thinks especially about climate. He is an embarrassment.
I don’t give a single care about ANYTHING he says on ANY subject…
.. except for its comedy value.
He’s a maroon !!
The only position Il Popo would get in the Maroons team would be the hooker.
The Maroons wouldn’t even allow him as a water person.
So clubs do have a token mentally-disabled geriatric around the place though.
Let’s leave Brad Fittler out of this.
chuckle. !
Come along, at his present rate of mental decline he will be a shoo in for next POTUS.
Gen 9:23
In other words I avert my gaze from the scandalous spectacle he makes of himself.
The pope is protected from defining false dogmas ‘ex cathedra’ regarding matters of faith and morals, a very limited ‘infallibility’. He is in no way impeccable and can be a heretic and a scoundrel and bereft of scientific understanding, as several have been. He has no teaching authority on science. The nonsense his ghostwriter spews should be ignored as the most charitable option.
As a Catholic I pray for his conversion to catholicism.
I understand that there are a lot of people who look up to the Pope. I am Lutheran my daughter married a Catholic. His family has three priests and a nun, one of the priests was an Archbishop. I disagreed with the Archbishop on many political matters, that does not make me wrong, same with the Pope. He is a man, no better than me.
What I think they mean is that the position of pope is meant to be the ultimate authoritarian within the church.
Yes that may be true but I think he was talking to more than his church.
I doubt anyone else would even bother listening.
I suspect that you can’t be so bad as to not be better, Bob. We are equal in dignity in the eyes of God, but woe to him…
Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Mt 18:6
I wonder if the Pontiff knows that we used to blame God for all this earthquake stuff. Must be someone else’s God.
Well God does still ’cause’ earthquakes but we used to believe that they were a sign of Gods wrath for our human sins…..wait a minute
Bergoglio was raised under Peron, and sees quasi-fascist movements as normal. So he is comfortable with authoritarian climate change advocates.
Francisco:
“CO2 is pollution.
Human CO2 emissions cause ‘sea quakes.'”
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So, just WHO is taking this guy seriously?
Okay. My comment is the ONLY one with a minus.
Please, whoever minused it, tell me what is wrong with it. If it was my disrespect to the current pope, I apologize for offending you as a Roman Catholic, but, I do not take back my point: the man is saying ridiculous things (2 examples cited) — only an ignorant person could take him seriously re: “climate change.”
The “Just Stop CO2” protestors / disrupters have been informed that they breathe out CO2.
Last seen holding their breaths while their faces turned blue.
Film at 11 . . .
Cellphone cameras are the reason we are seeing so many bad weather pictures and videos of bad weather worldwide. Deaths from bad weather are way down from say 100 years ago.
“A picture is worth a thousand lies.”
(Just think if there had been cellphones during the New Madrid earthquakes!)
Or Pompei !
This is just another example of the desperation shown by climate alarmists. Some can hardly wait for an asteroid strike so that they’ll have something new to attribute to carbon emissions. They need to realize that no one’s listening. That’s the reason that these have continued to rise since their measurement first began in 1957, or two-thirds of a century ago.
“desperation shown by” who?
how about Al Gore screaming that the oceans are boiling?
uh, uh, how about another one. Earlier this week Martha MacCallum asked John Kirby if the administration still believes that climate change is the greatest threat to mankind considering the impending threat of nuclear war d/t the conflicts in Ukraine and now Israel? And his unequivocal answer was, yes climate change is a greater threat than nuclear war.
I think that answers the question of “desperation shown by” who?
This came to mind (something about the hat, I think).
“There’s no use in trying,” said Alice: “One can’t believe impossible things.”
“I daresay you haven’t had much practice,” said the queen. “When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”
(Through the Looking Glass, by Lewis Carroll (thanks to Dr. Christopher Essex for this application))
The first person I remember blaming earthquakes on CAGW was Danny Glover when he was visiting Venezuela and supporting it’s ruler.
The pope doesn’t speak for the God of the Bible or even for Ma’ Gaia. He speaks for “The Cause”.
Pope Francis is 86 y/o. (For ref, current US president JB is only 72)
Actually, Joe Biden is 80 years old. There is another new video of him stumbling going up stairs today. 911: help me, I fell down and can’t get up. wait for it.
I am inclined to believe that the stumbling is an act intended to hoodwink the rest of us into believing that he is borderline senile.
What would be his motive for doing that, Ed? He’s more than borderline senile in any case v
Biden was born in November 1942, so closer to 81.
Woe sorry- I googled it and got the wrong answer.
Hmmm is correct this time. I definitely remember transcribing carefully
That is what usually happens when you use Google.
It’s common knowledge. If you don’t know that I’d dismiss anything you say.
When Pope Francis obtains the ability to launch nuclear weapons, direct the DOJ and FBI to target individuals that disagree with him or are saying things he doesn’t like, destroy a major economy, print and spend money he doesn’t have, destroy tens of thousands of jobs and all the other fun things we’ve been treated to, then I’ll vote for a different pope, oh wait I don’t vote for him. So whether or not he is older than the simpleton in DC seems pretty irrelevant.
I think my point was supposed to involve “us” living in a world where ideas are defined by a gerontocracy. We get online to call each other dummies, but if you trace the ownership to its biggest stakeholders, they’re older.
Right now I see Google telling me Gates is 67 y/o. Somebody shut him down when he advocated nuclear energy, but otherwise he seems to get his own way
Article tip – Steve Milloy/PJ media – https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/catherinesalgado/2023/10/13/exclusive-climate-expert-calls-three-strikes-against-climate-alarmism-n1734824
Biden’s FBI puts people who attend Latin mass on the terrorist no-fly list.
So the Pope won’t be visiting the U.S. until after Biden is exorcised.
No, you got it way wrong – PF is actively restricting the Latin Mass after Pope Benedict had opened it up – anyways JBiden and PF are both fanatical in their religion – climate alarmism and misanthrope.
Targeting old people. They have memories. (Except for Joe.)
PS I was an altar boy when all Masses were in Latin. Rote memory for our Latin responses.
“Dominoes nabisco. Et cum spirie two two OH!” (Best I can remember. 😎
😄
Now you’ve reignited all those days from my childhood sitting through masses in Latin surrounded by rows of farting boys.
Hard to hold your nose and respond when required.
No no no no people! Here’s the deal. Joe’s got millions of memories, literally infinite memories—‘literally not figuratively’—and one or two of them actually happened. No joke.
And “no joke” is the tell that Joe is lying.
Is Francis Antonio in disguise or Vice Versa?
Pope Benedict was a definite skeptic on the issue and Pope St. JP2 wouldn’t have put up with the re-tread Communists currently running the UN.
Pope Francis was elected through electioneering – see St. Gallen’s Mafia. Shows happens when you don’t let the Holy Spirit work freely.
PF should know better, having come from a chemistry background before joining the Marxist infested “Liberation Theology” Jesuits – St. Ignatius Loyola has been spinning in his grave for more than half a century.
Pope Francis shoulda kept to his religious lane.
He didn’t—veered into the climate religion lane—and the ridicule now heaped on him is richly deserved.
Submarine earthquakes! Hey Pope, geological plate tectonics was settled in the late 1960’s. Has NOTHING to do with CO2 and supposed AGW. Even Al Gore never went there.
Pope Francis shouldn’t even keep to his religious lane. There were recent chants in Latin in the Vatican claiming that Jesus is the son of Lucifer (i.e. Satan or the Devil). He’s also asking Catholics not to try to bring nonbelievers to Christ, and putting World Economic Forum leader Klaus Schwab on the same level as Jesus Christ. All he’s missing is the number 666 (cf. Revelation chapter 13) on his papal ring.
For something obvious, the expression used to be “Is the Pope Catholic?” For Francis, it’s not so obvious. If ordinary Catholics want to follow Christ, they should consider joining a Protestant church.
As for his “seaquakes” remark, if the CO2 concentration of the atmosphere were to double (which will probably take at least another 100 years), the weight of the atmosphere would increase by 0.02%. Hardly enough additional pressure to cause an undersea earthquake, considering the huge weight of the ocean already over the sea bottom.
God’s wrath is reserved for my opponents only 🙂
If the Pope thinks it is possible to create “a world authority equipped with the power to provide for the common good”, let him start with ending destructive wars in Israel and Ukraine.
Fantasies are his bread and butter. Simple as that.
“Despite all attempts to deny, conceal, gloss over or relativise the issue…”
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“notably heightening the probability of”
=
Easy target for criticism. It must be difficult for himself to reach the top of a multibillion dollar global organization and realize success rests on appearing in a funny little hat. Would his views matter is he forgot the hat? What about the shepherd-themed walking stick, does that do anything for him?
Articles like this upset me because someone I disagree with is using their hard won resources to amplify their voice to tell people “notably heightening the probability of“. Is there a bible quote about “notably heightening the probability of“. The word “infallible” creates a very narrow confidence interval, so “notably heightened” would have to mean… notably heightened.
No. But, here is a Bible quote I find an apt response to the “pope’s” remarks:
“… mene, mene, tekel, uparsin… .”
(See Daniel 5:25, 26)
money , money , tickles the parson ?
😉
Heh.
Hi, dear, kind, Sweet Old Bob. Thank you for making me smile (as you always do).
Says Google:
”
Daniel 5:25
You praised the gods of silver and gold, of bronze, iron, wood and stone, which cannot see or hear or understand. But you did not honor the God who holds in his hand your life and all your ways.”
Daniel 5:25
New International Version
25 “This is the inscription that was written:
mene, mene, tekel, parsin
Thus says the Word of the Lord.
Thanks be to God.
🙂
(try DuckDuckGo.com)
Indeed if we measure his works, weigh them in the balance, they are found wanting. And the kingdom which is not his is being divided as was his intention.
The pope is a dope.
Pope on a rope rhymes too.
No wonder he wants to deny the validity of capital punishment
I thought his God was/is/always will be all-powerful, built the Earth in 7 days etc, including tectonic plates. There is a strong chance that Slarti Bartfast did the crinkly bits around the fiords (Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy reference)
If so, He is the cause, not us (or Him through us; I get confused with religious spaghetti logic)
If not, there goes religion (hooray)
How will the insurance companies re-write their policies if we are the cause of quakes, floods, droughts, famines, plagues of frogs, et al and not ‘acts of God’.
“built the Earth in 7 days”
What happened to a day of rest?
He was offered double time for working Sunday, so he strung the job out !!!
The Catholic Church teaches that faith in God and science are complementary, with the Catechism noting that “methodical research in all branches of knowledge, providing it is carried out in a truly scientific manner and does not override moral laws, can never conflict with the faith, because the things of the world and the things of faith derive from the same God”.
Church and science in one sentence isn’t far from an oxymoron.
Dear Mr. Gans,
The Church (as in the body of all believers in Jesus as savior) is all about Truth.
Truth, of course, includes data-driven, observation-based, science.
That we believers have decided that the evidence for Jesus’ resurrection from the dead clearly and convincingly outweighs any arguments to the contrary doesn’t mean we reject bona fide science.
That we, along with God’s Chosen People, the Jews, believe in an Intelligent Designer we call “God” doesn’t negate our acceptance of observation-based science/the scientific method (including, of course, the principle of “inference to the known cause”).
Look into it. You will discover that some of the finest scientific minds were or are observant Jews or were or are believers in Jesus as Savior (and many of those were or are Roman Catholics).
Protestants believe that some R.C. teachings are unsupported by the Bible. I as a Protestant would NEVER say that those beliefs render an R.C.’s devotion to science null and void.
Why do you think that the entire Roman Catholic theology is mutually exclusive with a devotion to bona fide science?
Praying for you!
Janice
Just don’t say, “I didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition.”
One never does. 😉
Very well said Janice.
Thank you. Coming from you, my Catholic brother in Christ, that means much.
Pax Christi tecum Janice!
And also to you, Rich.
And, as Gunga Din (see his comment of Oct. 13 at 2:57pm) might have mumbled in his altar boy years:
Or Amos. Prone. No bees.
“Domino Nabisco frisk’em pass the basket” is what my irreverent pal used to taunt me with.
I see a big difference between church, the institution and believing Christians, even if being scientists, what’S not a contradiction, as Dr. R. Spencer proves, He separate his relgious beliefs from his scintific work
I also know, that religion (not in special the RC one) and science is a subject of several books by F. Capra or R.Davis, some of them I read btw.
Also I know, at least medical sience was imported by Maurish people to Spain. In Germany al lot of pharmacies are still named “Mohren Apotheke” – what translated means, looking at the roots, Maurish Pharmacy.
So please don’t tell me, that science and religion are allways best friends.
And acceot that I’m not a christian or believer of an other religion.
Ah Krishna, you’re being a silly goose* again.
Without the Catholic church there would not have been science in Europe.
(* For the non-German speakers, die Gans means goose)
Your way to “discuss” isn’t propper scientific, To have a different opinion isn’t silly and has no connection to my name I got. So take a look into a mirror and realise your own impertinent silliness
Na komm bitte das war nur ein Scherz Gänseleinchen! Unverschämt und albern—das bin ich doch!
Sei nicht böse, mein Freund!
From the article: “pseudoscience of weather attribution”
That’s what it is, too: Pseudoscience.
Coo-Coo! Or, if you prefere: Co2-Co2!
Any way you spell it… amounts to the same thing.
Quackery.
Neither climate change nor earthquakes are caused by changes in atmospheric CO2.
Real science proves that…. unequivocally.
Changing CO2 and changing global temperatures are uncorrelated.
Changing CO2 and changing global geology are uncorrelated.
Therefore, both changing temperatures and changing geology are independent of “changing CO2”.
No correlation, no causation is possible.
All the rest is noise.
Sorry, “prefer”, not “prefere”!
I don’t know why anyone is suprised at this pope. The church has always made proclamations on science and they usually get it wrong. Galileo comes to mind.
Question…
Do you think any of the climate trolls that infect this site will come out to support this poopy nonsense?
Will they come out to condemn and ridicule it ?
Or will they be too COWARDLY to do either. 😉
I’m sure I recall the prediction was warming would be more pronounced at the poles, has that been altered?