By P Gosselin on 23. September 2023
German meteorologist Thomas Globig. Screenshot AUF1
While the system media conjure up the allegedly impending climate catastrophe from morning to night, Austrian alternative media AUF1 reveals the system behind the propaganda.
Hat-tip: PI here
Five top-class studio guests discuss the question: “Deindustrialization, car bans, CO2 dictatorship: Where is the climate hysteria leading?”
In the process, they reveal what is really behind the climate hysteria: a cleverly staged hoax, behind which lie tangible political and economic interests of the globalists.
Thomas Globig was a meteorologist at Mitteldeutscher Rundfunk (MDR) for 20 years. During the premiere broadcast of the new show “Lagebesprechung AUF1,” the meteorologist expressed his critical views on climate hysteria for the first time on television. In the round, Globig explains how weather is misused it for scaremongering.
“In 1911, there were temperatures of 38 degrees and more in Germany. Nobody called for a heat lockdown then. The high temperatures have always been there,” Globig says.
Today, satellites measure ground temperatures from space. “Of course, the ground temperature is much higher when the sun is beating down on it. Weather stations, on the other hand, are mounted two meters above the ground. As a result, significant deviations are possible.”
CO2 is part of the earth and nature
Historian Dr. Holger Thuß is president of the “European Institute for Climate & Energy” (EIKE), which fundamentally questions the thesis of man-made climate change. He is convinced that nature alone is responsible for global climate change. “CO2 is nothing harmful, but belongs to the earth and to our solar system. When politicians fight against CO2, they are actually fighting against nature.”
“Orchestrated scare tactic”
Economist Dr. Eike Hamer von Valtier is a board member at the Mittelstandsinstitut Niedersachsen (Medium Size Companies Institute, Lower Saxony) and editor of “Wirtschaft aktuell” (Business Today), the renowned information letter on the background of politics and economics.
He sees the climate hysteria as an orchestrated scare tactic, behind which lie tangible power interests of global networks: “As always, it’s about power and money.” The CO2 trick is ultimately intended to create planned economic structures like those in the Soviet Union, which are intended to guarantee the globalist circles total control and thus the retention of power.
AUF1 journalist Kornelia Kirchweger, former press officer at the Austrian Federal Chancellery, tells how state officials there are “brought into line.” A longtime observer of international climate change propaganda, she says politicians today only live in a bubble: “They don’t care about the people.”
Pretty sure Thomas Globig got it wrong.
Satellites don’t measure the ground temperature… (not UAH, anyway)
It is the urbanisation of surface stations and the increased use of ever expanding airport data, and the unwarranted “adjustments”, that causes the spurious not-global warming in the surface temperature fabrications.
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Unwarranted adjustments means that the historical data has been re-written, and it looks like this:
It seems from your chart that the only thermometers operating around 1910 and 1970 gave temp measurements that needed no correction. Hmm.
If you ask the good folks at GISTEMP:
Why does old data get affected by the addition of new data?
Here’s the sort of answer you get:
“To illustrate that, assume that a station moves or gets a new instrument that is placed in a different location than the old one, so that the measured temperatures are now e.g. about half a degree higher than before. To make the temperature series for that station consistent, you will either have to lower all new readings by that amount or to increase the old readings once and for all by half a degree. The second option is preferred, because you can use future readings as they are, rather than having to remember to change them. However, it has the consequence that such a change impacts all the old data back to the beginning of the station record.”
But you have to wonder why it produces an obvious pattern of changes made over long periods of time that show all entries since 1970 warmed up and most before that date cooled.
Getting rid of the 1930/40s peak was the main aim of the adjustments.
Then the urban warming takes care of the rest, providing the ONLY human-caused physical temperature change.
“to increase the old readings once and for all by half a degree”
Then why do the invariably LOWER the older readings. 🙂
To flatten the curve they needed the 1930s heat to go away
The result is a nice hockey stick shaft
…except it’s us, the average citizen, that get the shaft.
“all entries since 1970 warmed up”
Well… if you look at world population data, that is when growth started in earnest…
… so it makes sense to warm up all the post-1970 temperatures.
Did I get that right ???
World population was 1bn in 1800, 2bn in 1930 and now 8bn – surely all those extra warm bodies must have heated the planet 🙂
No, just all of those bodies moving into the greatly-expanding cities to massively add to UHI distortions of the temperature record. Start with Waldon Pond and end up with New York’s Central Park.
“Did I get that right ???”
Ah.. seems people didn’y catch my sarcasm 😉
The rationale SEEMS practical until you realize that it has to be a lie and a distraction. How is it possible for there to be an adjustment pattern that has the effect of flattening out the curve prior to 1975 and increasing the warming trend after 1975?
The ~0.2C warming from adjustments between the 2011 and 2021 versions is just the tip of the iceberg. The real tampering takes place when the raw data is ‘homogenized’.
Maybe you missed this:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/07/19/europes-48c-horror-that-never-wasesa-media-sharply-criticized-for-manipulative-reporting/
There are probably quite a few cases of outright LIES from the climate charlatans that I’ve missed.
Who could possibly keep track of all of them !
Ah, shoulda read your link better…
“The animation below uses data from the Copernicus Sentinel-3 mission’s radiometer instrument and shows the land surface temperature across Italy “
Yes, they were using satellite and reporting a ground surface temperature…. bizarre !!
I stand corrected. ! Apologies to Mr Globig
Space tech is an overused appeal to scientific authority – this from someone who still reads sci-fi.
AI has to replace space before the generation that elected a moon lander a senator is replaced by a generation that looks up at night sky and thinks “billions and billion and I wonder if my cat video got likes on social media”.
In my experience, people have ceased “…look[] up at the night sky…”. As far as thinking, well we have never had a surfeit of that!
IIRC one of the European outfits did sneak to reporting ground temperatures in an “unprecidented heat wave” outbreak earlier this year – might have been for Corsica? Not sure if satellites were involved
As Right Handed Shark has it
I’m pretty sure he gets it right; we’ve seen it discussed here, recently.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/07/19/europes-48c-horror-that-never-wasesa-media-sharply-criticized-for-manipulative-reporting/
“The animation below uses data from the Copernicus Sentinel-3 mission’s radiometer instrument and shows the land surface temperature across Italy “
I stand corrected. ! Apologies to Mr Globig 🙂
You bring up a good point. I think oxygen is used by UAH for temperature sensing. Why not CO2? Does this make oxygen at 20% of atmosphere a GHG? What are the frequencies that are sensed and what are the temperatures assigned to each?
How much energy does oxygen delay going out?
I have never seen a full explanation on here as to what is going on with that satellite.
CORRECTION (see quelgeek and bnice2000 below at 2:11AM and 4:20AM today). Globig got it right.
Bummer. “… (see… ABOVE…). I was hoping this would end up much closer to the first comment on the thread. 😕
Sure do miss the good old WUWT days when you could call out “mod, please edit my comment” (after editing window elapsed) OR (grr) the Edit button which recently failed for awhile, then, *poof* disappeared with no explanation at all..
There are some interesting charts in this article. Another “we’re all doomed” story. The worst rated comment from an old friend who no longer comments here.
Cold weather has killed four-times as many Brits as heat in recent decades – but rising temperatures pose ‘growing threat’, experts warn
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12550077/Cold-weather-killed-four-times-Brits-heat-recent-decades-rising-temperatures-pose-growing-threat-experts-warn.html
I see Griff is getting the same reception there as he got here! How long before reality finally dawns that his views are of a small, extreme minority, a painfully wrong minority at that.
This recent study shows that the cool and cold weather we have every year causes about 4.6 million deaths a year globally mainly through increased strokes and heart attacks, compared with about 500,000 deaths a year from hot weather.
We don’t protect our lungs from the cool or cold air in the non-summer months and that causes our blood vessels to constrict causing blood pressure to increase leading to heart attacks and strokes.
‘Global, regional and national burden of mortality associated with nonoptimal ambient temperatures from 2000 to 2019: a three-stage modelling study’
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(21)00081-4/fulltext
IIRC, unlike heat it doesn’t take extreme cold to kill. Moderate cold does and will kill, especially for at-risk populations.
My German is not good enough get some but not all turned on english subtiles but hard work looks like they are starting to get it hope they get traction in Austria Switzerland and Germany
I wish them well
He had to wait until retirement to speak freely.
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A “Hoax” is sort of a whimsical practical joke. Crop circles, Piltdown Man, The Loch Ness Monster, Sasquatch & Yeti and UFOs are examples. Snake Oil sales pitches however are scams designed to make money. The people behind Climate Hysteria are in it for money, power and prestige.
Deja vu, again. Yes, scam is more like it, but in any case, they are waking up and asking questions in Austria and Germany. Sehr gut.
“The people behind Climate Hysteria are in it for money, power and prestige.” which calls for another word: “fraud”.
The global temperature figure here below all posts derived from tens of thousands of stations per half hour has cooled 0.05degsF since August 10 as the sun moves away from over predominant northern hemisphere urbanized thermometers
No – there’s nothing ‘clever’ about climate change/science at all.
It is the hyperactive ravings of spoilt-brat and ‘entitled’ children who have scared themselves shitless with endless repeated tellings of ghost stories and games of Chinese Whispers
To all intents it is the story of Lord of the Flies. (LotF)
OK, so where are all the adults who might calm things down and exert some control – or at very least distract with children with some other activity/game.
Or deliver the usual ‘threat’ that stressed-out mothers do to errant kiddies: ‘Just you wait till your father gets home‘
The significant problem is that ‘The Children’ are in fact fully grown adults – there is now no adults around to assert any control, there is no longer any ‘father’. Just Like LotF
Where did all the adults go? Where are the people who can differentiate between Information and Knowledge = the people who can use Information so as to create Knowledge.
It’s very simple. All the adults did was to switch off, inside each their own personal heads, ‘most all the things that differentiate children from adults = that exact ability to tell the difference between Information (trivia & minutia and ‘news’) and Knowledge
How did they do that: It was something they ate
Why did they do that, why did they eat that thing: They were told to eat it
Eat your heart out Chuckles with your reincarnation as a ‘Deadly Virus‘ that will ‘decimate’ (wrong word but you know what I mean ## ) the world’s human population.
A guy name of Ancel Keys got there while you were barely 7 years old
## Is there a word for ‘Reduce by 90%‘? Decimate is only a 10% reduction.
I think Chuckles had even greater plans – that’ll be his German ancestry I expect and hence why he’s surrendering to the French right now and they haven’t even (openly) declared war.
OMG; Maybe he is declaring war on France.
Lord help us, 1,000 years too late for that.
Where’s Joe Brandon when we need An Adult to sort it all out and call some order? (Boris will be asleep on the sofa – TV still on and Trump will be playing the part of Piggy.
you do see where the video went wrong – they fixated on information, minutia and trivia
They confused, as Lindzen asserted in his video, the difference between “The Science” and “Science” itself
i.e “The Science” (definite article) is information, trivia, minutia, graphs graphs trendlines and ever more graphs.
While “Science” is knowledge
They are so perfectly trapped, they don’t even realise.
Which is of course, the definition of The Perfect Poison. Not only do you not realise you’re being poisoned but you actually enjoy/relish consuming it.
Such is Sugar
They executed Socrates with hemlock and gave him opium to ease the pain.
Peta.
In Geoscience the process of scientific inquiry develops as follows:
The sequence starts with the measurement of events and things to create numerical Data.
Data is then organised and collated into collections of numbers such as tables from which we create graphs, pictures and maps which are Information. Information essentially consist of Data displayed in spatial form.
We then collect Information from different sources and disciplines to create a Knowledge Base.
Next, we move to the process of interrogation of our Knowledge Base which is the development and application of Wisdom.
Wisdom essentially is a process of Choice. It consists of the ability to make an informed decision guided by the knowledge of past events and an understanding of what works and what Risks are entailed in the application of our Choice going forward.
The final step in your process of scientific inquiry has become obsolete. Wisdom is no longer necessary. Changes will be made.
“In Geoscience the process of scientific inquiry develops as follows:”
Who decided that would be true?
No it wasn’t Chuckles/Charlie Chump; it was his father prince fishlip .. in 1986.
“In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation.”
You’ve confused it with “Tampongate”… Dec. 17, 1989,
Charles told Camilla that he wanted to “live inside” her trousers and then joked that he could be reincarnated as a Tampax tampon.
Chuckles aka Charlie Chump is the hypocritical twat we Brits are supposed to reverie !!!
“the hypocritical twat we Brits are supposed to
reverie!!! ”should read …
the hypocritical twat we Brits are supposed to revere !!!
Where is the climate hysteria leading?
Very difficult to predict because there are so many different ways in which people react.
The case of EVs is illustrative. At the moment people have cars because the costs are worth the benefits. They trade in and buy new ones when either the running costs or their perception of a benefit triggers in.
In all the discussions of the 203 ICE ban in the UK I have never come across any analysis of how buyer preferences are likely to be impacted by it, and what the ecoonomic and social consequences will be of their reactions. Almost any set of assumptions you make about the environment can be falsified in the event.
The general assumption in mainstream circles is that an EV and an ICE car are the same product. But they are not. EVs are far more expensive to buy, have far shorter range, take 5+ times as long (and are at least as expensive) to refuel, have a depreciatiing and expensive and fragile base asset in the batteries. Probably will cost more to insure for that reason.
Will the current tax breaks on fleet EVs continue? Will the buyer resistance to EVs continue or get worse? Will the value proposition change enough to raise the percentage of households that decide to go carless?
50 years ago cars may have been more expensive as a percentage of disposable income, but they delivered some well defined perceived benefits. A lot of these vanish with the move to EVs. The chain of consequences of this? Very hard to predict. Same with all the other Net Zero measures.
Cars are dead – larger scale pilotless electric drones……or so I saw in my last nightmare..
Self driving cars created a traffic jam in Austin.
All that you say about EVs is true but they are fun to drive and I would cheerfully buy a small one for local errands if they were more affordable—and I mean naturally more affordable; I don’t want a handout or a sweetener from the public purse, and I don’t want an EV from the Middle Kingdom built using cheap coal-fired electricity and possibly Uyghur children.
In time I think we’ll smooth out the wrinkles you mention and many of us will find we like EVs just fine. But that’s the problem. We’re not being given time. We’re being rushed into substandard vehicles and we’ll hate them for the costs, the service life, and the inconvenience. All so that our political class can pretend to be “leading the world” as they pretend to solve a problem they pretend exists.
And as much as I’d quite like to give a small EV a try, I will still keep my diesel 4×4 for what it does well. And I bet it will outlast any EV I can buy today.
Electricity is one of the most inefficient forms of energy for transportation. There are big losses when generating electricity, there are transmission line losses and electric motor losses.
Once generated electricity is in fact one of the most efficient ways to generate motive power. Well over 80% and probably over 90%. Gas power stations if left alone and not required to balance renewables actually achieve over 60%.
No ICE can match that.
Note I am utterly against renewable energy, and feel that electric cars will never match an ICE for general utility, but as an electrical engineer, I cannot stand by and listen to the sort of falsehoods one assocaites with the the Guardian, posted here, It does the sceptical movement no good.
I concur. Having given it some thought, I think that EVs, whether they be BEVs or FCEVs, are not the future. I base my opinion, on the premise that both types of vehicles will require a vast amount of copper, nickel, cobalt, aluminium, neodymium and dysprosium. Most of the metals are in decline, I’m sure there aren’t enough resources to power the future of transport. As an example, in the UK, there are 30M cars.
Added to which, some are ‘rare earth metals’, mainly found in the domain of China. With such demand, the market would become a ‘bear’ market.
I appreciate that hydrogen has many issues, but it will be a case of ‘needs must’, and I think the demand for raw materials to build hydrogen ICE vehicles, will be easier to satisfy.
The average price of a new, non fleet, EV in the UK is just under £50,000 though you can buy a Citroen Ami for around £8000 but it only carries 2 people.
Second hand EVs range from £14,000 to £32,000 but their battery range declines about 2% every year so you will need to bear in mind the cost of a new battery in x years.
The cost of new ICEVs ranges from around £12,000 to £30,000.
Typical annual running costs are £700 – £900 for EV, £1200 – £1600 for ICEVs. It should be remembered that petrol and diesel cost are relatively high at present and could fall in the future. Electricity costs are only going to keep increasing with all the Net Zero ‘initiatives’.
Note all costs for cars that most people would buy. Not many can afford an electric Rolls Royce at around £300,000!
Next generation will never know the difference. They might find engine noise offensive.
Michel – I’ve talked to ENG8 https://eng8.energy/ and I think they are telling the truth. Another friend is working on an idea that I think will work and would be even better for producing electrical power. These technologies (resulting from decades of research) would change the whole aspect of the EV vs ICE debate, and reduce the cost, weight, fire-risk, and cost of ownership of EVs dramatically. Maybe there will be confirmations of these technologies late this year or early next year.
If these work (and the data isn’t in yet) then choosing an EV would be a no-brainer, in the same way as choosing an ICE now is a no-brainer unless you only ever travel short distances, have a large bank account, and you can always charge your EV at home. If instead you had unlimited range and the vehicle was cheaper to buy, your ICE would only be kept if you could afford it and liked the noise it makes. Maybe there would be EV add-ons to make it sound like a V8….
Of course, these new technologies will also impact a lot of other things, making wind-turbines and solar panels even less economically viable than they already are. Somewhat disruptive.
Of course, even if these new technologies work and get implemented, and our use of fossil fuel goes down a lot, it’s not going to change the weather appreciably, or the rate at which CO2 accumulates in the atmosphere. Looks like that is more to do with ocean temperatures and the rate of absorption/desorption in water,and we can’t control that.
“Maybe there will be confirmations of these technologies late this year or early next year.”
The Tennessee Valley Authority started bringing electricity to middle America in the 1930s. Some of what was deployed then is still in use today.
“Exists” and “is common’ require different time scales for different product categories.
Yet another cold fusion/energy from water, snake oil site.
It still doesnt solve the battery problem unless they want every vehicle to carry a ‘cold fusion’ reactor.
Leo – waiting on tests with more-certain calorimetry before this can be confirmed, but the third-party tests look reliable-enough to say that at the moment they do reliably get more energy out than in. For LENR itself, there are some events that say it sometimes has worked rather too well (meltdowns for Pons+Fleischmann, and Thermacore) but no-one could make it reliably work.
Yep, solving the battery problem would entail such a device in every vehicle. Looks like it would be cheap enough and easy-enough to make to make that work.
Possibly their theory as to why it works is wrong, but the question is whether it practically works, and whether it works every time you build one. Swartz’s NANOR devices were available to buy quite a few years ago, with a certificate saying how well each one worked, but $15k for less than a watt was a bit expensive and, reading between the lines, a lot of the devices he built didn’t work at all and those that worked varied a lot in how much heat they would deliver when run.
Most of the time, I find the claims of “new energy source” to have faults. For this one, so far it looks good, so regard this as a heads up that it might pan out this time. If it does, it will be big.
Imagine the shock of arriving at your car rental counter after reserving a ICE sedan and being told all you’re going to get is an EV. This alone will set personal EV sales back years.
Excellent discussion even though quite long at 1hr 45min. Unfortunately, I expect few followers of WUWT can follow the German. I wait for the day (it will never happen) when the BBC has the guts to air something similar.
Go to Hell’: Brave EU Politician MEP Christine Anderson Delivers Damning Message to the Global Tyrants
Recalled one of the criticism of the paper by Soon et al was the use of outdated data. It seems to be a must in climate science that old data must be adjusted to make it current and the more the data is tortured, smoothen and by other means adjusted the more the data becomes “current” and no longer outdated.
Why has the public bought into the current rhetoric “lock, stock, and barrel” to STOP THE USE OF FOSSIL FUELS, which simulates the resurrection of the 1978 mass murder-suicide of religious cult members of the Peoples Temple, led by Jim Jones, Jonestown, Guyana?
In September 2023 , 45 years after the Jim Jones tragedy in Jonestown, President Biden used his executive power to establish the American Climate Corps, which will employ and train 20,000 young people in the work of climate resilience without fossil fuels.
When I watch the TV coverage of protesters, both politicians and teenagers, carrying signs to STOP THE USE OF FOSSIL FUELS, what I SEE on those posters is:
RID THE WORLD OF AIRPORTS, JETS, SHIPS, SPACE PROGRAMS, and STOP SOCIAL MEDIA, and PRODUCTION OF CELLPHONES, COMPUTERS, and PORCELAIN TOILETS that are dependent on the derivatives manufactured from crude oil!!
Shockingly, very few politicians, college students, and those in the media, having any understanding about the basis of the products in our daily lives! Energy Literacy at its best!!!
As John Stossel so often said, “give-me-a-break”!
The triumph of technology is precisely the fact that none of them have, to date, needed to…
Engineers are despised. Virtue signalling liberals are lauded.
QED
Bloomberg Green-Energy energy research team estimated it would cost $US 200 Trillion(with a T) to stop global warming by 2050. Millionaire and billionaire wealth is estimated to be around $US 208 Trillion. A 95% global wealth tax would be about the right amount to cover it. Problem solved. They own the media outlets that are pushing Global Warming. If they are so concerned let them pay to stop it.
The Earth is still in a 2.56 million-year ice age named the Quaternary Glaciation, in a warmer interglacial period that alternates with colder glacial periods. It is still much too cold to live outdoors year-round, except maybe in the tropics.
Too far.
“CO2 is part of the earth and nature”
Liberal existential philosophy conquered 20th century culture with the thought that everything that can be named including people part of nature. The idea that everything is natural must be erased so that some people can be more natural than others, if people and their accessories are to be counted as natural at all..
Well when a former head of the UN IPCC states that the environmental movement is really more about the destruction of capitalism than the climate that is all you need to know – all just a bunch of power hungry socialists
CAGW is a scam not a hoax. Difference a scam is done for profit( theft). a hoax is done for fun.
Not necessarily. The Piltdown man was not fun.
Everything the left says is a lie.
The left are the people they warned you about.
This is good news. We are seeing movement even if it’s baby steps.