“The Climate change agenda is a HOAX” — Truth bomb from @VivekGRamaswamy at the Republican primary debate. pic.twitter.com/EHdWomojEa— Mythinformed (@MythinformedMKE) August 24, 2023
Business entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy said on the debate stage of the first GOP primary debate Wednesday night that the climate change agenda is a hoax.
“I’m the only person on the stage who is not bought and paid for,” Ramaswamy said. “So I can say this. The climate change agenda is a hoax.”
This resulted in a round of boos from the audience.
“The reality is the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our economy. And so the reality is more people are dying of bad climate change policies than they are of actual climate change,” he continued.
Other candidates such as former Vice President Mike Pence and former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley then interjected, resulting in multiple people speaking over each other.
Haley said that climate change is real, but other countries such as China need to be held accountable for their contributions for it.
Yup, Fox News aired complete fake news with question from kid stating that climate change is the number one issue for young voters.
Here’s data… Even for “Gen Z/Millenials,” only the 8% say climate change is top issue.
30% still say its the economy. pic.twitter.com/Ie9xcifSqv— Brent Scher (@BrentScher) August 24, 2023
Ramaswamy needed to do something to be distinct from the pack. I think he realized trying to get favorable coverage from the legacy media is counterproductive in a Republican primary.
No Tom, I think he has been reading the many reports available at http://www.bomwatch.com.au, that show temperature increases are due to site and instrument changes, not the climate.
All the best,
Dr Bill Johnston
http://www.bomwatch.com.au
Oh, I think he is in the right, and the comment that the downside of “dealing with climate change” is worse than any effects of climate change are on point.
Correct, both of you!
He is obviously a smart man and knows this will give him big coverage and more funding, it’s also a hopeful sign the American people are beginning to wake up to the organized climate scam perpetrated mostly by democrat progressives and environmentalists. Cost of living issues will be starting to hurt middle America, like they have in Europe, UK and here in Australia, they can be blamed directly on climate/ energy issues. So, the Net Zero manifesto is doomed, along with a ruinable- renewables future, governments need to think again who or what they are representing, or the public will angerly replace them.
Temperature increases will continue until they start to decrease. Then what.
Then the cultists will claim that their raising awareness of the issue cooled things off.
Or, as the same part of the Left said back in the 70’s, all the aerosols produced by modern industrial society are blocking the sun and now an Ice Age is coming. Especially the oil and coal companies were at fault for chilling the Earth.
They don’t care if the oceans are going to boil or freeze. The same evil climate sinners will be to blame.
barryjo,
Here is an interesting, relevant graph that The Establishment is trying to ignore. Geoff S
Bomwatch is recommended reading from this veteran climate change scientist (me). Where else in the literature is there such detailed analysis of attribution of errors and uncertainties in the fundamental temperature measurement process? Pat Frank’s detailed, realistic studies go hand in hand with Bill Johnston’s (and mine) to allow educated readers to conclude that proper, hard science is little known and seldom used by alarmist authors like those who write the IPCC assessment reports. Geoff S
Ramaswamy has been consistent on climate, at least during this campaign.
I am something of a political fanboy, and I never heard of Ramaswamy before this year.
He’s a newcomer. He’s a self-made man, and very rich, and very smart.
But I’m afraid his foreign policy stances are going to doom his chances for the presidency or the vice presidency.
Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham may like Vevek’s foreign policy of hiding the head in the sand, but I think the majority of Republicans do not support that view. They support Ukraine and its fight against the dictator, Putin.
Nicki Haley gave the basic position of the Republican Party on foreign policy during the debate, saying we should support Ukraine and that the West needs to win in Ukraine, otherwise, Putin is enboldened and the next thing you know he is attacking a NATO nation, and then we have World War III.
Here the Ukrainians are at worst, fighting Putin to a standstill, and there are too many short-sighted Republicans who want to run away from there as fast as they can. Yes, Virginia, there are Republican Appeasers in the world. Their fear overcomes their common sense. This is the common trait of appeasers on either side of the political divide.
Yeah, let’s give it up when we are winning against our enemies. How stupid do you have to be to think that way? Well, maybe stupid isn’t the motivation, perhaps it is just plain fear of the unknown.
Putin loves to hear Repubiicans denounce the Ukraine war. He would probably give Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham a reward for their efforts if he had a chance. No doubt, Repubican cowardice, keeps Putin thining he is still in the game and might even win this one. Is that the message you want to send Putin? That’s the message he’s getting from lily-livered Republicans who hide their cowardice behind a fiscal distraction, pretending they are worried about spending.
They bitch about the billions spent in Ukraine, but not a peep out of them when Joe Biden spends $36 billion to prop up Blue State Union pension funds.
I don’t think it’s really about the money. I think somebody is scared.
There were zero plans to invade even most of Ukraine. They know that they don’t have the resources, let alone to take on NATO. That was spin to get support from the public to take back Russian controlled areas, which has been going on since 2014.
My comments are not about supporting Putin. It’s to not waste lives and resources to take back land for corrupt people in Ukraine and the US.
Russia got within 20 miles of Kiev last year before being beaten back.
To claim that this was an accident and Russia had no intention of taking the country is… silly at best.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kyiv_(2022)#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20British%20Ministry,the%20city%2Dcenter%20of%20Kyiv.
Russia has recently invaded Georgia, Moldova and Crimea without NATO doing anything. They had no reason to think that NATO would intervene before Berlin, probably not even Paris.
The surrender of the USA to China (and its proxy Russia) is the greatest threat to freedom in the world, right now.
And it’s the Republican Party that is on its knees.
Fortunately for Ukraine the Russian plan to take Kiev and the whole of Ukraine failed thanks to Russian corruption. Cheap Chinese tyres instead of high spec ones, cash difference into a obligarch’s UK bank account. Fuel sold on black market cash into a minor official’s bank account. Small arms and protective gearsold to buy a soldier’s vodka.
Russia must expand its borders in the same way Nazi Germany (and the British Empire) did, in order to increase wealth at home and add to said corrupt officials bank accounts they have to asset strip recently occupied territory, once that has been cleaned out move on to the next one.
Ukraine may be corrupt but it so far it hasn’t, as far as I know, invaded anywhere or sent mercenaries to African nations to exploit natural resources desperately needed for western renewables, or bombed anyone in Syria.
“The surrender of the USA to China (and its proxy Russia) is the greatest threat to freedom in the world, right now.
And it’s the Republican Party that is on its knees.”
Exactly right. Although I wouldn’t include the entire Republican Party. There are plenty of them who have common sense, it’s just that the appeasers get all the press coverage.
Russia agreed to pull back from Kiev, as part of a peace negotiation.
Russia did pull back, but then UK Johnson was told to visit Kiev, to tell Zelensky to keep on fighting.
Kiev walked away from the peace negotiations, per former Prime Minister of Israel, who was involved in the negotiations
This is obviously untrue.
A) Nobody accepts a peace that concedes their entire country up to 20 miles from their capital.
B) Nobody decides on peace talks when they are 20 miles from winning the war.
Russia was beaten back.
They still occupy huge regions of Ukraine, are transporting children out as part of a campaign of ethnic cleansing and are occupying parts of their other neighbours too.
For signs of foreign interference in US elections look at the US Republican Party who are constantly fighting for China, and their proxy Russia, against Ukraine and the West.
I don’t assume everyone in Ukraine is corrupt.
Corruption in Ukraine is pervasive from top to bottom
If we don’t stop Russia now, we’ll have to do it later and it’ll probably cost even more blood and treasure. Besides, it isn’t moral only to arm Ukraine enough to stop them losing as it prolongs the war and costs more lives. I’m afraid Ramawamy’s position on this would be a dealbreaker for me, even if he’s right on everything else.
Ukraine was committing an 8-y genocide on the ethnic-Russian people in the Dombas, who did not agree with the 2014 coup d’Etat, and had amassed more than 100,000 troops on the line of separation to take over the Dombas, as documented by UN observers, but Russia invaded Ukraine and put a stop to the genocide and the impending take-over of the Dombas
This is just silly.
“But I’m afraid his foreign policy stances are going to doom his chances for the presidency or the vice presidency.”
Since when is a US election ever decided by foreign policy? It’s always about domestic policy only.
And you know this how?
Not sure I can agree that it’s always about domestic policy, but I would say that this time it certainly is.
Although EUROMaidanist Ukrainians took cookies from McCain, and so had to accept his views, and so Ukraine committed a provocation against another country (*), enough to justify war, I agree that helping Ukraine fight is a very cheap way of hurting Russia.
But then, we need Ukraine’s excuses and promises to never interfere in elections (also true for Italy, Australia, UK – all of which could be seen as having committed war acts against the US).
(*) against the US, not Russia
Foreign election interference is much ado about nothing.
There is no evidence any foreign influence ever swung a U.S. election or changed one vote.
Domestic election interference, on the part of the radical Democrats, is the real problem.
The impact of Alexander Downer’s words is not “much ado about nothing”.
Yes Tom you are so right. Putin is a thug and the more countries let him know they wont tolerate his aggression, the more chance he will back down. Give this man an inch and he will take a mile (centimetre a kilometre).
My question to those who want to withdraw support from Ukraine, is the same one I always ask: If not Ukraine, then where are you going to draw the line on Putin?
At some point you are going to have to draw this line, because Putin is not going to stop voluntarily. He’s already threatening other neighboring nations, NATO nations, while at the same time losing badly in Ukraine. So if these appeasers think appeasing Putin will stop his aggression, they are dreaming.
The natives are getting restless in Russia. Putin’s days may be numbered. When he is gone, other leaders may decide Ukraine was Putin’s ego trip, and decide they want no part of it.
Appeasing Republicans want to give away the game right now. They think they have it all figured out. Stupid people don’t realize they are stupid. Until the bottom falls out.
100% agree with this and it boggles my mind that anyone would give Putin any wriggle room or credibility. He is a tyrant …. end of story.
The Fox News moderator asked all the candidates on stage about their thoughts on human-caused climate change, but only Vevek gave an answer. Then the conversation degenerated away from climate change, because of Vevek casting aspersions on the others on the stage, and the debate moved on.
So we don’t know where any of the others stand with regard to human-caused climate change.
Won’t help in the general with the dead vote and the homeless vote as 99% vote dem.
Wow only 99%? They are falling behind the trend if only 99% vote Dem. Here in the UK under the cultural changes we have witnessed in London, we now have turnout numbers voting in places like Tower Hamlets, where the numbers voting Labour (Dems) exceed 100%.
A very helpful development for your chance of being elected Mayor or Councillor if you are a hard left wing candidate.
Everyone of the SUBJECTIVE, computerized climate models shows greater temperature increases than satellite observations, which are based on WORLDWIDE, ACCURATE and OBJECTIVE data.
However, the IPCC ignores the satellite observations, upholds the computerized climate models, with help of hundreds of giant tubas of the cowed mass media and academia, all spouting the same nonsense
Those are the key elements of the climate hoax
I call that the non monotonic era: getting bad press is a plus, better than nothing (unknown) but also better than good press.
That’s because the American voter is highly intelligent (or very intuitive): being considered a very bad, no good, person is seen as an essential trait, from a game theory standpoint. It means that you have no way out on MSM. You won’t ever get nice things from some people.
A well known non monotonic strategy was burning your own vessels that you had under your control (that weren’t about to be stolen).
He’s not just done something different, he told the TRUTH
I’m glad he put in the word ‘agenda’. Seems to me that’s pretty obvious and defendable.
Getting into an argument about the existence of a crisis as such would be difficult in that debate setting.
Exactly. Climate is defined as the weather in a given area over a period of 30 years. In order to change the climate, then you must first change the weather for 30 years. The agenda is what is the problem since humans have never been able to control the weather.
“Climate is defined as the weather in a given area over a period of 30 years.”
300 years? 3,000 years? 30,000?
In my opinion climate is an ensemble of conditions that (probably) change too gradually to be noticed in a human lifetime. National Geographic’s definition of climate is 30 years, but NG and the climate catastrophists want to compress the time frame of their alarmist claims into decades to delude us into thinking the evil is here and now and I’m responsible. I see 30 year periods as a standard for averaging temperature, humidity, ocean levels and so on, with any departure from that average as being “unprecedented”. If that is the yardstick for climate I would argue that sceptics should reference the age of the earth and how significant shifts in climate regimes can be framed in geological or (at their shortest) multi-generational time scales (centenially).
Just think what could have happened with the earths weather had drumming and dancing not commenced, not to mention burning witches and throwing virgins into volcanoes. It’s a good thing humans take climate action and always have, wouldn’t you agree?
Popcorn please! The audience should have cheered him! Everyone in the audience uses FF every day and I bet have few solar panels on the roof.
This was Milwaukee, so even Fox news viewers drive ( subsidised) EVs hence the boos from the audience.
See my explanation for the boos, below.
It wasn’t about climate change. It was about Vevek smearing the characters of everyone else on the stage. That’s why the audience booed.
Thanks for that
“Vivek Ramaswamy said … the climate change agenda is a hoax”
“Haley said that climate change is real”
Why is Haley really that obtuse?
Nimrata is PC. Nothing more need be said.
They are talking past each other. The agenda is a hoax. Climate changes.
Exactly what I was going to say. Both statements are accurate.
Exactly what I was going to say. Both statements are accurate as stated.
( I tried to edit that for the past 10 minutes. Each time I got a warning that I was commenting too fast. Then I got a warning that it was too late to edit. Something needs to be fixed.)
I can confirm that there’s something wrong with the WorldPress (or ?) handling of comments . . . I too now get frequently get “Slow down, you’re commenting too fast” warning when simply trying to edit a post I made a minute or so previously.
End effect is that the post simply cannot be edited up to the time it is no longer possible to do so.
Something needs to be fixed.
I get that too, over other WP sites
The climate has been changing for million of years, regardless of high or low CO2, based on geological and ice core data..
The most recent example is the Little Ice Age (actually a glaciation period within an ice age)
People froze their n.ts off, poor crops, stagnant population, etc.
The Thames, the Seine and the Rhine froze, but CO2 was a constant 280 ppm
The IPCC tried to deny the existence of the LIA, because it did not agree with its “CO2 theory”, but word came from all over the world, “we had an LIA as well”. That ended the LIA hoax
Ramaswamy said the climate change agenda is a hoax, which is not the same as saying climate change is a hoax.
I’m sure saying the climate change agenda is a hoax is a popular sentiment to people attending an early 2024 Republican primary. That’s probably not what got the boos.
Of course the climate change agenda is a hoax – it and the attempts at ‘reparations’ are all ways to get money out of the hands of the rich West and into the hands of everybody with their hands out. Whoever then gets in first with the self-congratulatory spiel can count on the goodwill of those others whilst subjugating the now-impoverished West. Somebody should have seen the long-term implications and stopped this years ago.
The boos were for “bought and paid for”
Ramaswamy is a bit sketchy, even if this climate soundbite he got ‘right’.
Made his biotech millions by buying a failed phase 3 Alzheimer drug from GSK for basically nothing (because it had failed so was worth nothing). Then had his mother (an MD) rework the failed P3 data to exclude all those who dropped out because of severe side effects. The surviving remainder ‘worked’. Put the drug into a sub, took the sub public based on the reworked ‘hopeful’ data (cashing himself mostly out) for lots (IPO valuation several hundred $million) and then walked away when the drug also failed the new phase 3. Sub down 99.3% from its IPO price. Investors should have done their stats homework.
Sometimes there is more to know about than just a position on climate change.
Ramaswamy is as sketchy as Biden and his bagman son Hunter.
Trump got the basics right a while ago. Climate change is a way for China to get rich selling the West rare earths for EVs and wind turbines, plus slave labor made solar cells, while simultaneously bankrupting its western rivals.
Maybe they could trial the drug on Biden whathsname. Perhaps they do!
Cheers,
Bill
Maybe they already did. Remember, the drug doesn’t work.
Who invented the climate change hoax?
It certainly wasn’t China. It was the west. Then we got the western controlled UN to promote the subject to western compliant media. Meanwhile China is busy building a coal fired power station every week.
Seems to me our western politicians saw an opportunity to line their pockets and increase power over the populace and China called their bluff. The west didn’t need to buy rare earths and turbines from China, but our politicians thought batteries and turbines were a really smart idea so they made EV’s mandatory from 2035 and are busy banning gas stoves, and boilers (in the UK). Ain’t democracy great.
The west jumped on the NetZero bandwagon, the Chinese didn’t make us do it. China didn’t offshore all it’s manufacturing to the west, the west offshored to China. China didn’t even get exposed for a Climatgate fraud.
Who manages western nations finances, them or China?
Blaming China and Russia for our self imposed political lunacy is no way to stop said political lunacy. It just perpetuates it.
Pot and Kettle comes to mind.
We might not like the Chinese, or their politics, but 1.4Bn Chinese say we’re wrong.
China doesn’t have to join the scam. They’re already communist.
CINO – Communist in name only.
Allegedly more Rolls Royces sold in China than any other country in the world.
Visit Harrods in London sometime during the Chinese holidays, there are literally Chinese holidaymakers bussed in and they spend lots of money.
“Who invented the Climate Change scam?” It probably wasn’t the West – it may well have been a Soviet/Russian disinformation/propaganda campaign at first, but China has certainly positioned itself well. Even when Harrabin and the BBC had their climate change meeting to establish their narrative, they had a Chinese business/government agent there to oversee the climate economic warfare.
Of the original proponents was Lady Thatcher who was seeking to wrest control of Britain’s energy sector from the coal industry’s labor union.
Nuclear was the obvious substitute, except for North Sea oil, but the Commies will never give up their opposition to cheap electricity.
Funny that. Communist China is building a coal fired power station every week to get cheap electricity.
We build windmills.
You are right.
But Chernobyl in 1986 made Nuclear look too dangerous to use.
So with nuclear off the table politically, Thatcher needed a way to make fossil fuels look even more dangerous – AGW.
This also meant that the only energy sources left were the renewables.
It emerged from the Club of Rome.
Rome isn’t in China.
So the Chinese are taking advantage of our self-imposed climate change energy restrictions?? Whodda thunk???
I think that describes it perfectly.
Thank you for bringing this up.. Too many peole do not know this. Let me add that he Faucied this drug as he “touted the drug as a “tremendous” opportunity that “could help millions” of patients”.
Of course as you wrote, it failed again.
Yep. Heard him on Farage’s GB News programme last night- on which he revealed himself as something of a Richard Tice (useless leader of the British Reform Party) type. Certainly wouldn’t get my vote (if I had one).
That he was booed for saying that at a GOP event is the worst news I have heard for a long time.
I think at least a large portion of the boos were for his line before that, where he asserted that everyone else on stage was “bought and paid for,” a ridiculous slander.
Yes – it was for deriding the others on stage rather than the climate change comment.
So the news reports on this audience participation is ‘misleading’.
I certainly believe those here who watched it
Yes, if you listen to the debate, you will hear the boos start before Vevek said climate change was a hoax. The boos were so loud you could hardly hear Vevek say climate change was a hoax. The audience was booing his slandering of the other candidates by saying he was the only one on the stage who wasn’t bought and paid for. That didn’t go over well.
Yes, that is very bad news. Depressing news. The madness of crowds is in full flower.
Global Cooling, Global Warming, Climate Change, Acid Rian the Asbestos scare, Second Hand Smoke, the Ozone hole and the 1973 DDT ban has had its 50th birthday, and nothing has happened except the world wide increase in Malaria which is being blamed on Covid-19 and Climate Change and not the DDT ban.
Many candidates act like they think that the majority of the population feels AGW is a mainstream beleif, and must frame their responses to attract independant voters in the general election. Ramaswamy’s principleal business is anti-woke investing, and he wins by attracting attention to the investment funds and creating name recognition. I don’t think he’s running to win the election, at least not this year.
“Many candidates act like they think that the majority of the population feels AGW is a mainstream beleif, and must frame their responses to attract independant voters in the general election.”
That sounds like a lot of Republicans I know. Unfortunately.
Vivek is gutsy in calling out the climate scare agenda. He has taken a page from Trumps’ strategy. I just wonder how many people he alienated given all of the mainstream media propaganda around the world.
WashPo was very upset but they spelled his name right.
In Hamilton’s day, the field would be less crowded.
If Hamilton had had his way at the Constitutional Convention, we’d have Presidents and Senators with life terms and state governors appointed by the President. Fortunately, he was ignored.
Are you suggesting that instead of having debates we force candidates to duel each other?
force candidates to duel each other?
Works for me.
I’m beginning to think that strange women lying in ponds distributing swords really is a better system of government.
So do we trade common sense on the climate issue for a generally naive isolationist foreign policy? I guess if it came down to it, yes. And the media really, really hates him, so that’s a plus, too.
“So do we trade common sense on the climate issue for a generally naive isolationist foreign policy?”
No, we can’t do that. And we won’t do that. The isolationist wing of the Republican Party is not very big, although they do have several prominent champions.
But the majority of the American people do not favor throwing the people of Ukraine under the bus.
I am not sure that a careful approach to Ukraine is a naive isolationist foreign policy. On one hand I do not support throwing them under the bus. On the other hand I don’t support a blank check for them. I want to see a full commitment on their part to their freedom, and that doesn’t include corruption wherever it may be. The climate change issue is completely separate–it should not be an either or question.
I say this as a person who has lived in the shadow of both the Iron Curtain and the Bamboo Curtain with the US military. We need to defend our own, and carefully decide what we can do what we can’t. Some things are just not our responsibility, no matter how much we think we should support those things. Nothing has galled me more than seeing Koreans shout “Go Home Yankees” given how much money, blood and lives we have spent on that little peninsula. And I lived there.
What’s careful, though? We’re supporting Ukraine so that Putin thinks hard before going into a NATO country. Not out of love for Ukraine. Some NATO countries have stepped up, but others are already looking like France did when they rolled out the red carpets at the start of WWII.
If Biden weren’t so willing to surrender energy security, we could better encourage NATO to help here.
The biggest negative with Ramaswamy is that clearly he expects to govern by executive order. Which means only the swamp benefits. We need a president who can talk about bringing the country together without saying that bipartisanship means supporting the ruling party mindlessly.
Freedom is abstract and has many different definitions.
EU freedom is not US freedom.
(There is nothing like the notion of the sheriff, for example, in Europe.)
“I am not sure that a careful approach to Ukraine is a naive isolationist foreign policy. On one hand I do not support throwing them under the bus. On the other hand I don’t support a blank check for them.”
It doesn’t have to be one or the other.
I support knowing where the money goes very much. I don’t support cutting off the money.
I support putting pressure on the other NATO nations to increase their contributions to the level the United States is giving. I believe about 11 NATO nations are giving their fair share, but the others are not. I would be happy to hear Republicans rail about that.
I support putting pressure on Biden to adequately supply Ukraine with the weapons they need in a timely fashion. Joe, the Appeaser, has been dragging his feet all along the way, and it is harming the Ukraine war effort.
General Jack Keane just reported this morning that the Ukrainians have broken through one of the Russian defense lines. This, with nowhere near the equipment they need, and that Biden is withholding.
Joe Biden, the Worst President Evah!
Perhaps one problem is that we don’t have adequate stockpiles of weapons and consequently not much to share without harming our own readiness. We do seem very slow to send some useful things. If we are going to do something, it should be the shock and awe approach. We just don’t seem serious, and that is disturbing too.
It was the bought and paid for comment that got boos. Not the climate change is a hoax.
Other reports on the debate pointed out he gained a lot of support following the debate.
https://dailycaller.com/2023/08/24/google-trends-winner-vivek-ramaswamy-gop-debate/
Yes the audience likely had a lot of supporters of the other candidates. He has staked out a gutsy position.
Read his book “Woke Inc” where includes Climate as part of the “woke industrial complex”. Similar to Steve Koonin’s discussions.
Vivek’s foreign policy expertise questioned:
https://babylonbee.com/news/viveks-foreign-policy-experience-questioned-as-hes-never-bombed-a-brown-person-before
Oh well . That makes him similar to Obama then….. dont they have Dick Cheney or some elderly senator like …Biden for that
True but Obama did go all out to try to make up for his lack of experience and made up for lost time!
Late night TV sports shows got his time too.
From the article: ““I’m the only person on the stage who is not bought and paid for,” Ramaswamy said. “So I can say this. The climate change agenda is a hoax.”
This resulted in a round of boos from the audience. ”
The boos were not directed at him calling climate change a hoax, they were directed at him saying everyone else on the stage was bought and paid for.
The boos and commotion on stage were so loud before Vevek even said “climate change is a hoax” that you could barely hear that he said it.
Surprised no one has mentioned the AI generated “Vivek” pictured here…pretty sure the real Vivek doesn’t have 6 fingers on his left hand.
Is that a dig at Christie calling him “ChatGPT”?
Christie got booed a lot. He deserved all of it.
Six fingers, easier to take money out of people’s pockets.
From the article: “”Yup, Fox News aired complete fake news with question from kid stating that climate change is the number one issue for young voters.”
Another good point. Fox News is putting their thumb on the scale.
After every presidential debate, over the years, all the candidates and their supporters are interviewed by Fox News hosts, but Fox News would not allow any representatives of Donald Trump to be interviewed during this time.
I would call that election interference. Donald Trump is newsworthy even if he didn’t attend this debate, but Fox News suppressed the Trump camp and wanted to keep him out of the conversation. Revenge? Or political? Or both? I think both.
Trump put out an interview with Tucker Carlson at about the same time the Republican presidential debates was going on.
The Repubican debate probably got 25 million viewers.
The last I heard, Trump’s interview with Carlson had 200 million hits on Twitter/X. I understand that each hit doesn’t necessarily mean the interview was read completely, but it looks like Trump got more coverage than the other Republicans.
The latest information is that the Republican debate got 13 million viewers, and Trump’s interview with Tucker Carlson is up to about 300 million views.
Trump didnt turn up to debate – hence no spin after debate is over ( he was asked many times) . In fact he was interviewed on rival program
You cant refuse to play in sandbox and then expect to share in the spoils later later
Must have been a shock to Trump the debate rated so highly with viewers ( biggest audience of any program that night) without him!
“Must have been a shock to Trump the debate rated so highly with viewers ( biggest audience of any program that night) without him!”
It must be a shock to Fox News that Trump’s Tucker Carlson interview, broadcast on the night of the debate, has 300 million views as of yesterday, while the Republican debate got 13 million viewers.
And as I said, Fox News is a news organization, and had poltiical, election news standing right in front of them including Donald Trump Jr., and they wouldn’t even let them in the room. Election interference.
The management at Fox News doesn’t want Trump to be president again. So they do things like this.
Newmax is starting to be my go-to channel. I heard an interview with Trump at Newsmax yesterday evening while Trump was on his airplane flying back from Georgia. Fox News didn’t get such an interview. They want to be anti-Trump, then Trump can be anti-Fox News. And Trump had 75 millions supporters as of the last election.
This comment alone is worth the presidency.
Because the climate change agenda is the most dangerous threat Western civilisation has ever faced.
And this is why, with people like you, we are in a terrible mess. Voting on sound bites is not very intelligent. We don’t need another fast talker or another clown. We need a real person with a track record of getting things done as an elected executive.
Disagree. Being willing to speak the truth on the very biggest questions, to stand up and state clearly that the emperor has no clothes, that is worth its weight in gold.
Let’s see what happens to his numbers
Its happened before , a moment in the sun then fades
2011 Herman Cain
2015 Ben Carson – was ahead of Trump for a …blink of the eye
Wonder what they and Ramaswamy have in common…. thinking thinking
From your comment, it appears that you don’t like Vivek. And you don’t like Trump, right? So who do you like?
The point is that basing your vote on one topic that you agree with is not reason enough. Ramaswamy is so lacking in all other areas. Yes he talks a good game, sound bit nirvana. But he has no experience as a leader of millions of people.
No, Tom, Vivek broke a taboo. He committed political heresy. He said the unsayable; and on an issue, as I said, is which is crippling Western civilisation. We are staring down the very real possibility of a full-scale war with China. Without cheap, reliable power the West can’t even survive, let alone defend itself.
However, if I read you right, we probably agree. Overall, I would prefer DeSantis as President, with one major caveat; if he doesn’t stand up to the climate agenda, he will be less than useless, and just another menace.
Yes you read me right. I simply object to the one agenda agreement voting decisions. There is so much at stake here. There are so many areas that Ramaswamy is lacking in experience and expertise. On the job training is not an option for a President.
We need a real person with a track record of getting things done as an elected executive.
Electing politicians has been working so well, right?
I would vote for him with that statement alone and nothing else.
See my remarks to Brian above.
Well, I heard him on Farage’s GB News programme last night- on which he revealed himself as something of a Richard Tice (useless leader of the British Reform Party) type. Certainly wouldn’t get my vote (if I had one).
Whatever else he said, he’s 100% correct that climate change POLICY is going to off far more people than “climate change” ever will (except of course the next glaciation), especially if such policies continue to their logical conclusion.
But that is not enough, not even close, to being a President.
I keep saying it’s not a hoax, it’s a scam.
I agree. Comment below.
I am pretty sure, after the unfolding events over the past three years get written up and fully understood by the wider public, the last thing the world needs is a Biotech nobody, holding the reins in the largest most powerful military nation in the world.
The Pharma industry along with its lobbying activities have a lot to answer for.
His position vis Climate Change is welcome though no doubt conditional. I am sure a new drug treatment for Climate Change Syndrome can’t be far away.
You know Ramaswamy has close ties with the pharma industry don’t you? He made a lot of money pushing a drug he claimed was a game changer when it had failed 3 trials and failed another after he pushed it. Is Ramaswamy a Fauci in disguise?
Kudos Vivek, as Orwell said ‘in a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act’
I wish the other candidates had told us what they think about human-caused climate change.
Somebody said Nicki Haley said it was real, but I didn’t hear her.
And right after Vivek said everyone on the stage but himself was bought and paid for, the booing started and all the candidates started talking at the same time, and you couldn’t tell what anyone was saying, and then, abruptly, without getting an answer from each candidate, the Fox News moderators moved on to another subject. So we still don’t know the postions of most of the candidates on human-caused climate change.
Despite the fact that the climate AGENDA is a hoax and China and India will render any other CO2 amelioration moot, it was an embarrassing free-for-all orchestrated by FOX. And that will sway the young voter more than the lack of a well explained position on climate change that was not possible in that setting.
I saw enough of the glittering smiles during the introduction to know I didn’t want to see it. I wonder if any of the candidates even prepared to answer the global warming question. Something like this… “My position paper is online at our web site. I wrote it in collaboration with (XXX) and using publicly available climate databases and sources. It explains what the problem is and what I will do when I get into office. Here are the five main points.” If he or she gets cut off people at least know that he was serious and can still get his plan. The compendium of graphs Willis E. compiled might be a good starting point for the pols to look at.
It may be a hoax, but saying so will get you dismissed as a “climate denier”. The message needs to be tempered to make to acceptable to as broad an audience as possible.
Haley said that climate change is real
Strawman, he never said it wasn’t. Typical.
If stating the truth elicited boos from the audience then the audience deserves the consequences of being on the losing side of the hoax.
That is an interesting concept in politics, actually telling the truth! It will be interesting to see if the other candidates follow or not. I rather suspect that the whole election of the President could balance on this question as many, many Americans (and us Brits) are sick of the whole climate business, particulary the huge costs. Interesting!
The candidates will have to be diplomatic in their public responses about climate. As satisfying as it is to call the climate hoax by name, it just divides the audience. Ramaswamy will have to be a better debater.
There are differences between “hoax”, “fraud” “con” and “delusion”. Although each is an accurate description of CAGW, the candidates who use these terms in public debate will lose voter approval. Better to provide irrefutable facts and sources.
Piltdown Man is usually called a “hoax”. It was the deliberate “seeding” of false “evidence” of a “missing link” at a time when evolution was still being debated. It garnered massive press and attention in the scientific world. The parallels between Charles Dawson and Michael Mann are numerous. Neither, for example, expected to have to show their evidence. Both hoaxes have had a long life, Dawson’s over 40 years, Mann’s… still counting. But a difference is that Mann’s concatenation of data from multiple sources enlisted his peers in the deception. It may initially have been an instrument for Mann’s recognition and status, but the ploy solidified immediate support among the researchers whose data was used, and it soon fostered thousands of copycat warmists who found they could advance their careers, status and recognition among peers.
There was and is no runaway global warming. This can be shown. Proof that climate scientists knew this even as they published their fraudulent claims are in the plethora of captured emails of the most prestigious members of the group. Kevin Trenberth, for example, lamented that, “The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.” He never meant for that statement to be anything but an aside at the water cooler.
But for the last 30 years climate scientists found lucrative jobs and research grants, opportunities to publish and careers in what may initially had been an institutional con game with multiple players benefitting. Environmental science classes at colleges swelled and climate science became a career.
The idea that unprecedented heat (or cold, or storms, or ocean levels) were to be feared – this could be used to gain power over governments. Thousands of people – the voting public – were moved by the arguments of “science”. And so CAGW’s central symbol became a vehicle for defrauding the public and the world of trillions of dollars.
Renewables and their platform of CAGW fears were never meant to fix pollution. They cause nearly as much as they create. From a mere “hoax”, it morphed into a religion devoted to social change, personal salvation, spiritual enlightenment and the elevation of the elect. A massive delusion fueling industries, hereticating deniers and profiting its purveyors.
Maybe these are distinctions without a difference as far as politicians are concerned: hoax, fraud, con, delusion, religion. The candidates for president will be baited to say what they think. If they use any of these terms, they will be booed. But if they cannot articulate a plan for bringing the deluded back down to earth they deserve booing.
Robert L Peters or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Climate Change
He is a freak.
Too many of Ramaswamy’s generation were exposed to Man-Made-Catastrophic Global Warming dogma in the schools. It is just ‘well known’ that it is true … to them. The question they ask is not if mankind is in charge of the climate, but what to do about our undoubted ongoing rape of Gaia.
One of the most painful operations is getting the eyes opened.