California Tried but Failed to Have an Extreme Weather Disaster

Opinion by Kip Hansen — 23 August 2023

Hurricane Hilary looked pretty bad when it was charging north parallel to the west coast of Baja California as a Cat 4 hurricane.   I am a compulsive hurricane watcher, a habit left over from my years at sea in both the Atlantic Ocean and the Caribbean.  I still have family in the Caribbean – so now I watch on their behalf.  

I made the mistake on Saturday to turn on a TV and watch live weather news from Southern California.  Every single weather spokesperson seemed to be under orders to use the words “catastrophic” and “deadly” as many times as possible, sometimes more than once in a single sentence.  They were talking about the future – how the weather was going to be on Sunday and Monday (20 and 21 August). 

I was far more worried about the border towns of Mexico – Tijuana and Mexicali – where poor infrastructure and shantytowns abound.  Mexico did a fantastic job of protecting their people in advance. Thousands of troops were sent in to establish shelters and perform emergency response.  Despite heavy rains and high winds, few lives, only one I believe, were lost.  It could have been far, far worse.

Meanwhile, much of Southern California, with its high building standards and vast governmental resources, was freaking out.  The local weather services and weather news units were beside themselves terrifying the populace with threatened destruction.

And then it rained and the wind blew.  In places unaccustomed to much rain, where storm drains and flood prevention infrastructure is almost non-existent, there was flooding and mud/sand flows.  The desert arroyos were filled and flowing, churning with water and debris.  Where the arroyos crossed roads, the roads were flooded and some washed away.  This is the nature of things in California’s deserts – it was rains like these that created those arroyos.   

Many of the desert cities, flat as pancakes, had no real system in place to handle the inches of rain coming down.  Those cities which gently sloped saw rivers of sand and small rocks flowing down their streets. 

And, of course, owners of houses and buildings built on those nice flat floodplains along dry riverbeds discovered why their lot was so flat:  every 25 years of so, water roars down that dry riverbed pushing mud and rock and sand and trees and flattens everything in its path.

The Los Angeles River, usually empty except for a trickle in a narrow ditch in the middle, was nearly full and the doing its job of carrying away storm water and sparing the city.

But catastrophic and disastrous and deadly?  No, sorry weather people (many of whom, I suspect, wished they were in Florida where they could stand in fake hurricane force winds in front of their expensive hotel pretending to risk their lives to bring you “Today’s Hurricane Live!”), there was no big catastrophic deadly disaster.

“By and large, we’re feeling pretty good about it because we’re not seeing a lot of impacts to homes and residents,” said Brian Ferguson, a spokesman for the California Governor’s Office of Emergency Services. “We’re not seeing a single fatality or injury as of yet.” “Yet in one of the most heavily populated parts of the country — Los Angeles and San Diego Counties alone have a combined population of more than 13 million — there were no reports of deaths related to the storm as of Monday afternoon.” …. “in parts of California closer to the coast, some were puzzled at why the storm had received so much attention…. As the air cleared on Tuesday, Vazken Kouftaian, 40, a resident of Santa Clarita, north of Los Angeles, took his 2-year-old son for a walk. This storm, he said, felt more like a normal rain shower. “They were expecting something very bad,” he said. “But it was nothing like that.”   [ source ]

There is a right way to prepare the people of a city or an entire region for heavy winds and rains, for tropical storms, but what took place, the wild exaggerations of alarming threats, is not it.

The right way to prepare a people, a region, for heavy weather threats looks more like this list: 

1.  Officials issuing calm and honest predictions. 

2.  Giving common sense advice to the populace on what they might need to do to prepare – depending on their circumstances. 

3.  Using government resources to ‘harden’ threatened infrastructure – such as having trailer mounted generators available to back up electrical supply to hospitals in case of electrical outages.

4. Calling up National Guard units trained in emergency response and having them and the necessary equipment pre-positioned across the region for ready response. 

Readers with emergency response experience can add to this list in comments.

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Author’s Comment:

Every heavy rainfall event in Southern California brings damage, especially to the built environment.  Homes are flooded, damaged and some destroyed.  Families suffer – and for those families, it is a disaster. I don’t mean to downplay or ignore that aspect of this rare event.

But probably the greatest damage was to the minds, hearts and souls in California who were intentionally terrified by the constant stream of threatening “news” pouring out of the TVs and Radios. 

But not the “Vazken Kouftaian”s, those with personal life experience and good critical thinking skills, smart enough to see through the alarmism and remain calm.

What happened instead?  Wildfire risk was greatly reduced, reservoirs were filled, even new reservoirs were filled.  And a superbloom may be in the offing.

Thanks for reading.

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August 22, 2023 10:13 pm

Superbloom!

Can’t wait for the amazing pictures that will surely come 🏵️🌸🌺🌼🥀🌹💐🪻🪷

Scissor
Reply to  PCman999
August 23, 2023 4:43 am

Can’t be. They’re in a permanent drought.

Bill Toland
August 22, 2023 10:28 pm

The media were actually right about how devastating Hilary was. Check out the appalling damage caused by Hurricane Hilary in the link below.

https://babylonbee.com/news/check-out-these-devastating-pictures-of-hurricane-hilarys-aftermath

Duane
Reply to  Bill Toland
August 23, 2023 4:14 am

Love it! Nothing deflates a blowhard better than sarcasm.

Scissor
Reply to  Bill Toland
August 23, 2023 4:46 am

Impressive flash flood. Seems like it may have happened before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLEw5UUxyZU

Greg61
Reply to  Bill Toland
August 23, 2023 8:51 am
Reply to  Bill Toland
August 23, 2023 9:42 am

My personal favorite:

cali_will_rebuild.jpg
Erik Magnuson
August 22, 2023 10:52 pm

The NHC discussions were pretty honest in stating that because the hurricane track was almost parallel with the coastline that any east/west change in track would have a major effect. In Hilary’s case, the storm made landfall well to the south of the US/Mexican border which then weakened Hilary far faster than if it made landfall in the Tijuana/Imperial Beach area.

The NWS gridded weather forecasts were way off, predicting almost tropical storm level winds early Sunday afternoon for San Diego coastal north county, while the winds didn’t exceed 10mph until 5:30PM. Rainfall ended up at about 2″. Palomar Mountain did get some 80 mph gusts, while Mount Laguna got 7″ of rain.

The Imperial Valley did get much higher winds than coastal SoCal. Death Valley apparently got more rain than coastal San Diego county.

Erik Magnuson
Reply to  Kip Hansen
August 23, 2023 8:10 am

What’s funny or pathetic is that SoCal was hit with the remnants of two hurricanes in the 1970’s. Kathleen in September 1976 caused way more damage than Hilary. Doreen in August 1977 also caused a fair amount of damage, but took a path similar to Hilary, but further west. The California current does a very good job of weakening hurricanes as SST’s almost never exceed 26ºC.

Palomar Mountain is my equivalent of Van Halen’s “no brown M&M’s”. When I see “Mt Palomar” in a “scientific publication, it makes me wonder what else they are getting wrong.

August 22, 2023 10:58 pm

Kip,

My wife an I are fortunate to live on the Southern California coastal palin in Orange County. None of our neighbors or friends were terrified by the idiot newscasts. We joked about the “storm of the century” rubbish. Even our friends in Laguna Beach were not terrified. We drove down to Laguna Beach, and back, on Sunday, during the storm, and the canyon, known for flooding, did not flood. So, lots of hype, no problems.

For us. The folks in the desert (Cathedral City) and other. more inland places in Southern California, did have damage. Fortunately, we’ve heard of no fatalities.

The problem with predicting anything for Southern California is that it is a very large place, with many climates. One can start at the beach, pass across the coastal plain, drive up into the mountains, then into interior valleys, then into the high desert. Given traffic and weather, it could take up to 6 hours. Meanwhile, in the NH winter, one would be driving from a pleasant day at the beach up to the snow ski resorts. In NH summer, again a drive from the pleasant beach weather to “blistering” (dare I say “boiling”?) desert. Giving a weather forecast for this area, even divided up into three or four pieces, doesn’t tell the story.

Reply to  Kip Hansen
August 23, 2023 9:49 pm

Our neighbors are actually well-educated, experienced, and rational.

Curious George
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
August 23, 2023 7:43 am

In Kern County mountains, 100 miles north of LA, there was some flooding and road damage. Happens every two to five years.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1HDIJ47hrvs

August 22, 2023 11:44 pm

I have long wondered at the large percentage of politicians who start off in real estate development and/ or the zoning Department. I also notice how many of them get rich by selling people housing on flood plains.
One would think a name like Whitewater would ring bells…

August 23, 2023 12:11 am

What or who was the source for the hysterical predictions?
It’s pretty obvious it was orchestrated from only one significant source so who were they – what was their source?

I ask because I followed the thing via some bog standard ordinary weather map, (Meteoblue.com) and they had Hilary doing nothing and going nowhere (Sorry Baja, I’m sure you’re very nice)

MB’s map showed it faltering while still way out to sea, slow moving and on a collision course with northern Baja for early afternoon Sunday.

Their ‘prediction’ (for 18:00hrs PST Sunday) then showed completely no sign of any hurricane, just a very slack low pressure – as might be expected when a water dependant phenomena runs aground on a bone-dry desert and surrounded by high-pressure systems

So where did meteoblue get their data?
Why did nobody else get or see the same?
What were all the Amazing Magic Fantastic All Bow Down and Worship Sputniks & Supercomputers doing?

Why were predictions of huge disaster all that The Public saw when all the while out there were predictions of ‘diddly squat’ and ‘boringsville’

So yes, somebody lied. Somebody knows they lied – Terrorism is the word.

OKaaaay, it may have been borne from over-zealous application of the precautionary principle but, that only passes the buck back by one level.
Why the over-zealousness?

Or was it paranoia – irrational and uncontrollable fear?
Oh that’s easy. Find paranoia from consuming any of the 90% of the stuff in every modern supermarket and foodstore.
Even before you make it to the booze aisle.

Alright then, where did the (flooded) arroyos and the vast expanses of non-absorbent sandy dry desert (and Caliche) soils come from?
Did ‘Climate’ make them? What is ‘climate’
Did CO₂ do that? Or sunspots. Or the position of the stars?

Surely not from the production/growing of that mush you find filling 90% of every supermarket?
Nice positive feedback doncha think?

Did the Anasazi work that out just before they either left or died?
There’s your choice, what you gonna do?

What about: (this is radical) getting some decent food inside yourself?

Reply to  Peta of Newark
August 23, 2023 4:39 am

It’s MODELS, models all the way down. No one looks at what is actually happening, they look at models that can only predict what they are programmed to say – i.e. what they think *should* be happening, not what actually is happening.

starzmom
Reply to  Peta of Newark
August 23, 2023 6:42 am

If it bleeds it leads. And every news outfit needs to lead. Couple that mentality with the fact that humans are hard wired to need a crisis, and you have the perfect storm–media storm that is.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Peta of Newark
August 23, 2023 10:35 am

Peta, its only the booze aisle that helps many people get through government-sponsored hysteria (H. L. Mencken) and media-apocalyptic click-bait with any sanity left.

August 23, 2023 12:13 am

The 30C warm pool off Mexico was unusual in its persistence. It spawned three convective storms that travelled west before Hilary that travelled north.

The unusual persistence has actually stalled the formation of the El Nino phase in the tropical Pacific. The Nino34 region was warmest in July this year.

The storm that aided the grass fires on Maui were spawned in this warm pool. This is two months ago:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#2023/06/22/0000Z/ocean/surface/level/overlay=sea_surface_temp/orthographic=-96.43,5.65,428/loc=-98.227,13.846:

Duane
Reply to  RickWill
August 23, 2023 4:12 am

It’s called “El Nino” and happens every few years in the eastern Pacific. This year’s ENSO is believed to be one of the stronger ones in recent times.

Robertvd
August 23, 2023 1:01 am

For Big Brother to stay in power The People have to live in continue fear. As simple as that. None of the weather news people could tell the real story because they fear losing their job. 
All dictatorships work like that because what they fear most is We The People without fear.

Reply to  Robertvd
August 23, 2023 1:31 am

Right !
That explains Big Brother Trump taking the sharpie and drawing the path of the Hurricane across country devastating it as it went to scare everyone …..not for him the predicted path

Over the weekend, as Dorian bore down on and then brutally struck the Bahamas, the president issued a torrent of tweets. One mistakenly warned that Alabama would be impacted, potentially spreading panic.
Just 20 minutes later, the National Weather Service in Birmingham, Alabama, tweeted: “Alabama will NOT see any impacts from #Dorian. We repeat, no impacts from Hurricane #Dorian will be felt across Alabama. The system will remain too far east.”

Sure Socal was a predictable shameless beatup – for good reasons there hasnt been a proper hurricane in the region for maybe 100 years or more because they peter out

I looked at the National weather Service diary of previous extreme weather events of all types in SoCal- note real data – shows maybe4 or 5 tropical storms in SoCal in last 10 years which mostly derived from Hurricanes

The really amazing bit was September 1939 which had 4 ex hurricane storms in one month!

Rod Evans
Reply to  Duker
August 23, 2023 2:31 am

“The really amazing bit was September 1939 which had 4 ex hurricane storms in one month!”
Was that due to the CO2 increase too……?
Just asking on behalf of a Climate Alarmist friend, she tells me her grandfather said it was hot back then.

Reply to  Duker
August 23, 2023 5:07 am

““Over the weekend, as Dorian bore down on and then brutally struck the Bahamas, the president issued a torrent of tweets. One mistakenly warned that Alabama would be impacted, potentially spreading panic.”

This is just pure leftwing propaganda. The radical Left distorts everything Trump does. This is just another example.

The Left claims Trump has told somethng like 38,000 lies. What the Left has really documented is 38,000 leftwing distortions of what Trump has said and done.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 23, 2023 7:17 am

And this Simon dude from NZ is STILL regurgitating the distortions, doesn’t matter how many times they’ve been exposed.

Reply to  karlomonte
August 23, 2023 1:42 pm

Exposed …. yet its Trump whos facing jail time for his lies and distortions…plus RICO in Georgia

MarkW
Reply to  Duker
August 23, 2023 5:34 pm

Since when is it illegal to lie. Not that Trump has told any.
Nothing Trump has done is illegal. Of course that won’t stop activist left wing DAs from inventing ever more fanciful legal fictions in order to prevent Trump from running for president again.

All the while finding more and more excuses for not prosecuting Joe and Hunter.

Reply to  Duker
August 23, 2023 5:39 pm

They don’t have anything on Trump.

Lies are not evidence of anything.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 23, 2023 1:39 pm

Its on TV tape Trump saying these things , with the map he altered IN HIS HANDS

Go ahead dont believe your lying eyes….
Lock him up !

Reply to  Duker
August 23, 2023 5:40 pm

This leftwing lie was thoroughly debunked here on WUWT at the time it took place. You should find it and read it.

strativarius
August 23, 2023 1:45 am

California dreaming.

Gregg Eshelman
August 23, 2023 3:08 am

Idaho got some much needed rain from the storm’s leftovers.

Duane
August 23, 2023 4:05 am

The media loves a disaster, or even just the possibility of a disaster, as it always generates reader/listener interest in the form today (post print subscriptions) of mouse clicks, ratings points, and therefore ad sales. They’re all disaster whores, always have been, always will be.

The oldest saying in the news media world is “if it bleeds, it leads”. Nothing happening isn’t just boring to news people, it kills them.

The layer added in recent years is the global warming/climate change narrative. Every weather event gets hyped as proof that we’re all gonna die due to climate change tomorrow, if not already today.

ozspeaksup
August 23, 2023 4:15 am

cant say I am surprised it turned to custard, was hoping there’d be enough rain to flush sanfran streets of poop n needles and some rubbish.

scaremongering?

we’re copping it in spades in aus the last few days!!
what/why?
some utter jerkoffs have decided to ramp the firefactor fears to 11 already
saying it was a dry winter? really? not anywhere Ive looked most of aus has had good to excess rains in spite of supposed El Nino kicking in
sure has NOT been warm this winter(my wood bill alone proved that)
for the yr to date the rainfalls been average to above and only 40mm less than the last 3 La nina yrs of flooding rains etc
while grass growths not bad around my area its NOT as heavy or high as you would expect I reckon the roos that have bred up are doing their best to eat a lot of it, ditto rabbits and deer;-)
a dry n hot summer will be a change after a couple of cool wet ones, and yes theres ALWAYS a bushfire or two some bad some so so and most human caused NOT climate change in any way.
so so sick of this idiocy and its just starting up;-((

Bill Toland
Reply to  ozspeaksup
August 23, 2023 5:11 am

“was hoping there’d be enough rain to flush sanfran streets of poop n needles and some rubbish”.

It must have cleaned the streets. Look at this story.

https://babylonbee.com/news/following-hurricane-californias-homeless-population-gets-down-to-the-thankless-task-of-re-pooping-all-the-sidewalks

Boff Doff
August 23, 2023 4:21 am

Having kept a regular eye out on the Skyvector aviation weather station website it was difficult to understand the predictions of catastrophe. There wasn’t a forecast that showed anything over 25 gusting 45kt and occasional strong rain.

Of course that system is for professionals and isn’t a propaganda outlet.

Sailorcurt
August 23, 2023 4:29 am

The biggest problem with this, in my humble opinion, is the “crying wolf” effect.

The clickbait media sensationalizes and hypes to gain viewership on their channels and clicks on their websites for no reason other than profit.

People freak out and panic buy and batten down the hatches and run for the hills and….nothing happens.

How prone are these people going to be to take the next warnings seriously?

I live in a zone where hurricanes are a threat, but typically don’t hit us very hard…we’re in a relatively protected location. Every time a hurricane threatens our area the media freaks out and screams and shouts and jumps up and down and the people who’ve been through this a hundred times happily ignore them and get on with our lives.

The problem is someday the threat is going to be real and very serious, but how are we supposed to be able to tell the real threat from the hyperventilating hysteria of all the past bogus ones? Many people will ignore the warnings and be caught unprepared and it will truly be a disaster.

August 23, 2023 4:54 am

From the article: “I made the mistake on Saturday to turn on a TV and watch live weather news from Southern California. Every single weather spokesperson seemed to be under orders to use the words “catastrophic” and “deadly” as many times as possible, sometimes more than once in a single sentence.”

“Historic” was also overused.

bdgwx
August 23, 2023 5:31 am

Initial estimates are $7-9 billion dollars in damages. That easily qualifies it for NOAA’s billion dollar disaster list.

bdgwx
Reply to  Kip Hansen
August 23, 2023 7:52 am

So this wasn’t a disaster? What amount of total losses qualifies as a disaster?

bdgwx
Reply to  Kip Hansen
August 23, 2023 8:21 am

I get it. Different people have different perspectives on disasters. What is yours? Does someone have to die?

bdgwx
Reply to  Kip Hansen
August 23, 2023 9:19 am

The EM-DAT requirement is either 1) 10 deaths 2) 100 people affected or 3) declaration of state of emergency. 2 of the 3 were satisfied in this case.

Reply to  bdgwx
August 23, 2023 9:34 am

So what? All hurricanes cause damage.

The focus here is whether Hurricane Hilary is unprecedented. It’s not.

bdgwx
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 23, 2023 11:33 am

I thought the focus was whether California had an extreme weather disaster.

MarkW
Reply to  bdgwx
August 23, 2023 5:39 pm

It wasn’t a disaster and it was no where close to being extreme.
Why do you feel the need to lie about what has happened?

bdgwx
Reply to  MarkW
August 24, 2023 6:18 am

I’m just reporting the estimate of cost from the insurancejournal.com article. If the $7-9 billion figure is a lie then blame the people who originally made it.

Reply to  bdgwx
August 23, 2023 5:45 pm

No, “unprecedented weather” is always the focus of the climate alarmists. They see it everywhere, when in reality, it is very rare.

bdgwx
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 24, 2023 6:21 am

The title of the article is “California Tried but Failed to Have an Extreme Weather Disaster”. I took that to mean that Kip does not think Tropical Storm Hilary was a disaster for California.

bdgwx
Reply to  Kip Hansen
August 23, 2023 11:40 am

I get it. I thought the St. Louis hailstorm of 2001 (at the time the costliest in US history) was a disaster even though it didn’t kill anyone. I’m sure a lot of people like roofers, body shops, etc. thought it was a blessing though. To each his own I suppose.

Reply to  bdgwx
August 23, 2023 12:24 pm

We lived in Santa Maria then, as I watched over ops and reservoir engineering work for about half of the Santa Barbara to Huntington Beach offshore platforms. Back here, back then, lots of our Trumpian YUGE extended family got hit. But they were, almost all, well insured.

When policies are weasel worded to wordsmith differences between floods, storms, etc., it makes a big difference. Here, it seemed to be more clear cut.

bdgwx
Reply to  bigoilbob
August 23, 2023 2:08 pm

That hailstorm started a shift in the industry to have separate hail and/or roof deductibles. My homeowners policy makes no distinction, but I know some do. Anyway, I wasn’t living here at the time, but I was in town the days following and got rear-ended in my car. Because the body shops were so backed up fixing hail dents it took 6 months to repair my car.

Reply to  bdgwx
August 24, 2023 5:33 am

Apparently, another disturbing bdgwx comment. Maybe it was the info on past insurance coverage changes in our area that got to them.

You stalwartly ignore thumbs, but this is both typical and just silly. You could read the Post Dispatch restaurant reviews and these whiners would Cry Real Tears, squat down and pee on the floor.

bdgwx
Reply to  bigoilbob
August 24, 2023 6:33 am

I don’t pay much attention to the votes of my posts. And I don’t engage in voting much either. My rules of engagement for voting are 1) never downvote…ever 2) upvote if someone makes a good point regardless of who they are even if it is someone I typically disagree with and 3) always upvote when a defense of the 1st law of thermodynamics is made.

Reply to  bdgwx
August 23, 2023 7:20 am

No IPCC “pathway” graphs? What gives?

August 23, 2023 6:29 am

Whatdaya mean? Hillary was/is a deadly disaster.

Oh, you mean Hilary. Sorry…

donjindra
August 23, 2023 7:24 am

I live in Hollywood. We got about five inches of rain from the event. It was not a severe storm, though. I never heard thunder. The rain was never heavy, just consistent. It wasn’t even as bad as the storms we went through last winter. It’s amazing how some people were terrified by the idea that a “hurricane” was headed toward us. I grew up in Texas. People here in Los Angeles have no idea what a real storm is, where rain is so heavy you can hardly see a car 20 feet ahead of you on the road.

August 23, 2023 7:48 am

Once again, California looks ridiculous.

August 23, 2023 7:52 am

My former neighbor in North County San Diego told me that the whole event was very beneficial. They had moderate wind, approximately 1.5″ of rain and no more than .25″ per hour. Great stuff for mid to late August.

ResourceGuy
August 23, 2023 9:07 am

If it helps Lake Meade with water levels, will that also be reported as unprecedented, or will it be ignored all together?

Reply to  B Zipperer
August 23, 2023 8:11 pm

That’s the state of Colorado
The Colorado river basin is much more vast

August 23, 2023 9:39 am

Now, the NWS forecast for Katrina was full of Book of Revelations-like predictions, and they pretty much all came true. That one was a classic for the ages.

Gino
August 23, 2023 10:58 am

So…..I left Garden Grove CA on Sunday afternoon at 3PM with a pickup truck bed full of moving boxes that I had tarped up the night before.

I drove up the 5 freeway through the heart of LA, over the San Gabriel River, over and along the LA River, just beneath Dodger stadium, through Santa Clarita, then up and over the Grapevine.

Pretty basic drive. No standing water on the freeway (except for one construction area in santa clarita where run off created a little sheet of water and traffic slowed to about 45. Traffic on visible side streets looked normal, with no big sprays of water or intersections blocked as I drove by.

The LA river looked a little under 1/2 full ( it had not risen up even to the level of the tributary drainage pipes) but flowing good. As I approached the foothills, the rain intensified a little, I shortened the intermittent cycle on my wipers. The I-5 truck route was closed (i think mud from the near vertical hillside), but there was no real impact on Sunday traffic and everything flowed up through mountains fine. Crossed Tejon Pass and down the hill on my way to Paso Robles without even giving an “Idiot of the Day” award. Probably the most amazing thing about this storm was that drivers actually slowed down to 55 ish, kept good spacing, and didn’t fly all over the lanes like Ricky Racer.

Kip, I know you question the flood control/drainage capability of the LA area, but I drove BACK to OC on Monday( the next day) to pick up another load and the LA river was right back to that little drainage ditch level in your before picture and barely a traffic slowdown at the 5-10-60 interchange when I passed through at 5PM.

The only odd thing about this storm was that it happened in August and not February. Otherwise it would have been just a moderate winter storm with the same kinds of damage that we would normally associate with one. From the Carolina’s to the Caribbean I think you would call it Tuesday.

As you noted, the “chicken little-ing” is a far greater danger than this storm. Or maybe not, if that is what it took to get LA drivers to just treat rain with respect. All in all, Hillary ran a more effective presidential campaign than hurricane.

prjndigo
August 23, 2023 12:21 pm

Florida does the same thing to Hurrcain’ts that try to come up the West Coast.

Bob
August 23, 2023 12:35 pm

Nice job Kip. Mainstream media sucks so does California leadership.

August 23, 2023 8:07 pm

Saw a super bloom in Baja 40 years ago
Amazing

Ireneusz Palmowski
August 25, 2023 3:47 am

Another typhoon in the Philippine Sea.
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Tropical storm in the western Gulf of Mexico.

Ireneusz Palmowski
August 25, 2023 3:55 am

This rain was much needed for Southern California.

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
August 25, 2023 4:04 am

California has a different problem. Wet periods are followed by dry ones, and dry vegetation must be removed and fire lanes created. Australia has a similar problem with its climate. It should be noted that El Niño affects the weather in the summer season. In the winter season, the circulation depends on the state of the stratospheric polar vortex.