Do Labour’s energy plans stack up? Andrew Neil Quizzes Jonathan Ashworth

I’m baffled by how you can think we can get to a net zero electricity system by 2030 that won’t involve gas.”

Andrew Neil quizzes Jon Ashworth on the Party’s Green Mission Pledge

Some of the quote tweets are hilarious. My favorite is:

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alastairgray29yahoocom
March 13, 2023 10:08 am

The trouble is the present lot are just as idiotic as Starmers crew so what does one do.
There is absolutely no point in voting unless I stand for office myself

strativarius
March 13, 2023 10:11 am

“”Do Labour’s energy plans stack up””?

In a word, no.

John Hultquist
March 13, 2023 10:13 am

Note, just above on the left, Andrew Neil skewers the green blobette – –
That being the then Environment Secretary Elizabeth Truss.
{I did not watch.}

atticman
March 13, 2023 10:32 am

The man (Ashworth, that is) hasn’t a clue! I’m really starting to lose patience with these idiots…

1saveenergy
Reply to  atticman
March 13, 2023 10:42 am

Are you really only just starting to lose patience !!

vuk
March 13, 2023 11:05 am

‘Net zero’ has zero credibility, which is an order of magnitude more than politicians promoting it.

John Hultquist
Reply to  vuk
March 13, 2023 12:32 pm

Made me laugh.
A person with your skill sets! Not sure how to type this: 0^10 ?

vuk
Reply to  John Hultquist
March 13, 2023 2:13 pm

There’s no thing of the ‘absolute zero’ value on either side of the ‘Big Bang’.
Simple, start by assuming that the Jonathan Ashworth’s argument on the ‘net zero’ is certain number of the Planck units of credibility.

March 13, 2023 11:15 am

Just who actually **is** in charge: Here’s a clue and a glimmer of hope.

Headline:London, 13 March – Net Zero Watch has welcomed the decision by the Bank of England to demote its Net Zero agenda and cut its spending on climate change.

(I only have the mailchimp link – it’ll be at NetZeroWatch.com somewhere)

It seems that since BoE governor and eco-zealot Mark Carney was ‘moved aside’ – things are returning to a modicum of normal..

And I’m within viewing range of a real live TV (scary innit) and BBC is running a story complete with PolarBearPictures and Stressed-Out-Greenpeace-Girl ## telling that Brandon has given the OK to 180,000 barrels per day off of the North Slope

## She had A Full Barrel (refined and processed of course) plastered over her face in the form of make-up. Are you gonna tell her or should I

Reply to  Peta of Newark
March 13, 2023 11:42 am

Link for the above comment

Reply to  Peta of Newark
March 14, 2023 10:42 pm

You are not allowed to push out Carney lest he return to canada and accelerate the destruction Trudeau has begin

March 13, 2023 11:29 am

No serious political party in the UK can have a believable energy policy.

Two reasons.
A) If they did they would be vilified and then banned from SkyNews, ITN and the BBC.
B) Also, the Green vote is not large enough to win many seats (maybe in three constituencies) but they are spread wide and can tip many seats.

The sound energy vote is non-existent. As anyone smart enough to see renewables cannot work on their own is also smart enough to recognise points A and B and so will ignore the policy statements.

The sensible policy is to neutralise the issue by all agreeing to say you’ll do something stupid and then not doing it.
All the main parties in the UK do this with the possible exception of the Greens who might (just might) mean what they say.

Tom Halla
Reply to  MCourtney
March 13, 2023 11:34 am

At least we in the US can vote the Democrats out, and hope we do not get a squish like GW Bush, with his “addiction to oil” theme. But at least he was better than Al Gore.

gezza1298
Reply to  Tom Halla
March 15, 2023 7:54 am

Are you sure you can VOTE the DemoTwats out as they will just keep printing and counting more mail-in ballots until they win again?

Uncle Mort
March 13, 2023 11:31 am

Of course our energy plans stack up and when they come to fruition we promise to give every child a free unicorn.

Sean2828
March 13, 2023 12:17 pm

I used to wonder what would happen if most of the college grads were communications majors. I think we are finding out. Just put someone in front of the camera that is naive enough to believe press releases from advocates and continually repeat talking points rather than directly answer critiques. No wonder the liberal media loves Greta T.

March 13, 2023 12:21 pm

It’s all political BS, they don’t give a toss about anything other than their image, they are so transparently fake and incompetent these people.

It’ll be one big cock-up from beginning to end, like everything else they touch.

Bob
March 13, 2023 1:37 pm

Number one get the government out of the energy generation business. They are not qualified.

Number two government should only be involved as a regulator. Not to tell power companies what to build but to see that what they build is made and run in the safest and cleanest manner as is practical.

Number three government should request a list of all power sources possible. The list must include all pros and cons of each source. The list must include things like affordability to the customer, availability of fuel sources, dispatchability, availability 24/7, ability to power up and down, disposal of waste, recyclability, pollution to land and water, life of generators, harm to flora and fauna, ability to connect to grid, compatibility with grid, cost to build, cost to maintain, footprint, reasonableness of regulations and probably lots of other stuff I didn’t think of or am unaware of.

WUWT should build this list and spread it wide and far. All of the concerns should have a priority, affordability and dependability being number one and two. I know little to nothing about all this stuff but I would bet wind and solar would be at or near the bottom of the list.

Chris Hanley
March 13, 2023 1:57 pm

Where UK may be after five years of Labour government: ‘up sh1t creek without a paddle’.

Reply to  Chris Hanley
March 13, 2023 2:44 pm

That’s where we are now.
Our only hope is that we’ll be halfway back to where we were 13 years ago with a Labour government.
Economic failure of austerity has wrecked everything; the NHS, the transport infrastructure, schools and teacher training, the pubs are closing… there’s nothing British of Britain left. Even the rugby is going bankrupt, in Wales.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  MCourtney
March 13, 2023 3:05 pm

The long-suffering UK population have done enough, since the early 1970s the CO2 emissions per head have about halved mainly due to ditching coal, assuming the majority believe CO2 emissions are bad.
2020 -2021 UK CO2 emissions dropped by around 8,500 KT which could amount to merely an arithmetic error in China’s CO2 increase of 518,196 KT (Trading Economics).
At the same time the standard of living has fallen to the same level as 2007 the year before the Climate Change Act was passed.

DavsS
Reply to  MCourtney
March 14, 2023 7:21 am

You’ve summed up Labour-run Wales perfectly – pretty much everything is in an even worse state than England.

March 13, 2023 2:09 pm

Wow, Ashworth seems like a total moron- a wimpy total moron.

DavsS
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
March 14, 2023 7:28 am

Yes, he is. The problem for the rest of us is that total morons are in the majority amongst MPs, in government and opposition alike.

Reply to  DavsS
March 14, 2023 7:48 am

That’s certainly true here in Woke-achusetts. Almost nobody dares challenge this religious cult. We are now on the road to Net Zero disaster.

March 13, 2023 2:23 pm

WUWT has an international audience.
Sometimes I think it should have a glossary of what different parties in different countries stand for.
The NAZI Party was “National Socialist German Workers’ Party”.
I doubt if any “socialist” party in any country wants to be identified with them.
“Liberal”, “Conservative” are other words that may mean different things in different countries. (“Labor’s” from the article could easily be taken as “Labor Unions” here in the US or even “… Workers’ Party”.)
Such a glossary would be tough to make. But it would help.
What “Party” pushes what in which country?

John Oliver
Reply to  Gunga Din
March 13, 2023 5:17 pm

Yes being in the US I do have difficulty figuring which party stands for what across the pond or down under. But they pretty much all seem left of Lenin at times when I see the net result of policy in those countries.

Shytot
March 14, 2023 10:09 am

Just another moron whose ambitions are writing cheques that his abilities can’t cash.

It’s painful and embarrassing to have people like this being elected and getting paid from my hard (and honest) earned taxes.

Where’s Guy Fawkes when you need him?

gezza1298
March 15, 2023 7:57 am

Interesting as it was also a Labour person who commented that what was in the manifesto didn’t matter as they would just ignore it if they won. Contrast that if you complain to our current Blue Labour government that you didn’t vote to destroy the economy with Nut Job Zero they respond that you did as it was in the manifesto. Of course there are things in their manifesto that they have ignored but then we have had a revolving door of unelected Prime Ministers.