Essay by Eric Worrall
If only you evil carbon sinners had listened before it was too late. But we can still apparently fix the climate crisis, even though the crisis is inevitable.
‘Soon it will be unrecognisable’: total climate meltdown cannot be stopped, says expert
Blistering heatwaves are just the start. We must accept how bad things are before we can head off global catastrophe, according to a leading UK scientist
Robin McKie
Sun 31 Jul 2022 01.48 AEST…
And this is just the beginning, insists McGuire, who is emeritus professor of geophysical and climate hazards at University College London. As he makes clear in his uncompromising depiction of the coming climatic catastrophe, we have – for far too long – ignored explicit warnings that rising carbon emissions are dangerously heating the Earth. Now we are going to pay the price for our complacence in the form of storms, floods, droughts and heatwaves that will easily surpass current extremes.
The crucial point, he argues, is that there is now no chance of us avoiding a perilous, all-pervasive climate breakdown. We have passed the point of no return and can expect a future in which lethal heatwaves and temperatures in excess of 50C (120F) are common in the tropics; where summers at temperate latitudes will invariably be baking hot, and where our oceans are destined to become warm and acidic. “A child born in 2020 will face a far more hostile world that its grandparents did,” McGuire insists.
In this respect, the volcanologist, who was also a member of the UK government’s Natural Hazard Working Group, takes an extreme position. Most other climate experts still maintain we have time left, although not very much, to bring about meaningful reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. A rapid drive to net zero and the halting of global warming is still within our grasp, they say.
Such claims are dismissed by McGuire. “I know a lot of people working in climate science who say one thing in public but a very different thing in private. In confidence, they are all much more scared about the future we face, but they won’t admit that in public. I call this climate appeasement and I believe it only makes things worse. The world needs to know how bad things are going to get before we can hope to start to tackle the crisis.”
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As to the reason for the world’s tragically tardy response, McGuire blames a “conspiracy of ignorance, inertia, poor governance, and obfuscation and lies by climate change deniers that has ensured that we have sleepwalked to within less than half a degree of the dangerous 1.5C climate change guardrail. Soon, barring some sort of miracle, we will crash through it.”
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“This is a call to arms,” he says. “So if you feel the need to glue yourself to a motorway or blockade an oil refinery, do it. Drive an electric car or, even better, use public transport, walk or cycle. Switch to a green energy tariff; eat less meat. Stop flying; lobby your elected representatives at both local and national level; and use your vote wisely to put in power a government that walks the talk on the climate emergency.”
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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jul/30/total-climate-meltdown-inevitable-heatwaves-global-catastrophe
I have to admire Bill McGuire’s climate propaganda innovation – he’s solved the problem of upping the ante beyond certain doom.
This was a real challenge for greens, how do you make climate change seem even scarier than “near certain doom, but we have a sliver of hope”? Bills solution is, we’re certainly doomed, but we need to work to avoid that doom, even though doom is inevitable.
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When the economy crashes due to suckups catering to climate zealots, all those pitchforks and torches will cause pollution.
How much pollution did burning the Presidential Mansion in Sri Lanka cause? They went full Green, even to banning artificial fertilizer, and had the inevitable result.
Someplace in the “Climate Gate” emails someone wrote that if it all turns out to not be true, they are going to come after us with pitchforks and torches.
That would imply that these bureaucrats who peddle this propaganda actually believed themselves and I find that to be the most skeptical aspect of the East Anglia Uni correspondence. What is the most alarming aspect of the emails is that if you google Climate Gate today Google returns disclaimer articles from factcheck.org, the guardian et.al. “pooh poohing” the emails, disarming them as false evidence of conspiracy in essence defending, with disinformation and out right lies, the Climate Research Unit while damning the whistleblowers who would be held up as heroes if they were exposing some right of center political sins.
The BBC are in on the act as well with their mockumentaries “The Hack that Changed the World” & “The Trick”
BBC has their massive pension money investments managed by Al Gore’s green mamagement investment company, “Generation Investment Mamagement, LLC.”
They are biased.
Not only are they biased, they have a vested interest
tar and feathers first;-)
We lack feathers.
Will thorns off the rosebushes be all right?
Though, locally escaped now invasive Bradford pears have bred themselves back to their very thorny ancestors.
Long thin branches of them would make a nasty abbatis.
With sharp thorns, 2″ long (50.8 mm), they’re tough to harvest. We could easily harvest and substitute short sections of thorny branches. I can get a bushel of them ready in an hour or quicker.
Guess the Canadians will be the next country to find out, assuming the EU protests don’t go belly-up first.
They also burned a lot of other minsters’ houses. Good on shame. Shame the president escaped.
I feel the need to defecate on a Stinky Reb, a Road Gluer. With me, McGuire?
I think that motorists and others who come across the folks who have glued themselves to the roadway or objects (paintings etc) should carry a tube of epoxy cement with them and help these rebellious folks really ADHERE to their principles!!
Success! 😮
The solution to the XR road blocking lunacy is for climate sceptics to match them one for one.
At every XR demo. sceptics pitch up and employ precisely the same tactics, side by side with the activist’s.
They glue themselves to the road, or just sit there with their counterparts waiting to be removed by the police.
It’s not like they could be treated any differently.
But no one will do it of course, because sceptics are, more often than not, Conservatives, in both politics and practice.
Direct action is a feature of a juvenile mind. The adult version of throwing a strop, lying on the floor, screaming, and flailing feet and hands.
Perhaps the skeptics should glue themselves (their butts) to the XR activists upper backs? Eat lots of beans and cabbage first.
That should encourage the XR activists to get themselves unstuck.
Other than that, call the French police for handling stuck activists.
Trucker pea bombs tossed at the protestors sounds appropriate.
That’s pee bomb
IDEA! position the cars so the exhaust is blowing toward their faces, then rev the engines. BWAH-HA-HA!
Use them as a speed hump. it will only take one or two incidents where they are actually run over to stop it. But perhaps a trifle drastic. My personal preference is to remove enough of the demonstrators to let the traffic through, then hose the others off constantly them leaving them to dry on the road. Or bring in the French police who are rather more cavalier than UK police in doing the job of removing idiots from the objects they have glued themselves to.
hard as nails REALLY stick to skin as I found out the hard way..took days to chew/ peel it off fingers after deciding to use hands to apply it;-/
UV activated glues would be better and cure far faster under sunlight.
Certainly well before Bill McGuire—emeritus professor of geophysical and climate hazards that he is—gave us his warning detailed in the above article, we were warned about the sky falling by one Chicken Little.
Sigh. MSM will publish this tripe day after day, but refuse to publish more sane opinions, or actual facts (was there even a single fact given in the prof’s wee rant?) that tell us there is no climate emergency at all.
Cripes, he’s even inciting people to break the law.
The guy sells doom, it’s all he’s got. Thankfully nobody is listening.
His other books:
A Guide to the End of the World: Everything You Never Wanted to Know and
Waking the Giant: How a Changing Climate Triggers Earthquakes, Tsunamis and Volcanoes.
Climate alarmists make me think of Picasso
and the insightful Calvin and Hobbes cartoon
Waterson was a genius.
That is really over the top. Of course, it is in the Guardian. Somehow, I don’t think his anxious plea is going to work. It only exposed the alarmists for the nutters they have become.
Don’t drive, don’t eat meat, don’t fly, glue yourselves to the pavement—to avert a doom that except for some miracle is already certain. Yup. Nutty.
Let’s hope he takes his own advice, switches to a green energy tariff, then goes green tariff broke while freezing in a midwinter cold high weather system when his green windmills don’t work so his green grid goes dark.
Don’t use asphalt for pavement as it absorbs sun’s rays and holds the heat, plus we won’t have as much as it’s a byproduct of petroleum.
He seems to be unclear on the purpose of giving warnings about impending dangers.
glueing themselves to pv and birdshredders would be good
He should read the IPCC 1.5 degree report. It predicts the damage at 1.5 (actually 0.5 from now) and 2.0 degrees C of warming and neither is all that much. And even that is just model driven nonsense.
Pay no attention to the mumbling fool in the corner.
He’s not mumbling. The Guardian is more like a bullhorn, and too many of its readers are ready to follow the McGuires of this world to New Jonestown.
People actually read the Guardian??
But we don’t know what the temperature was in 1850.
Stokes believes that he does, using the magic of data fraud.
Might it have been a tad cooler, on average, in Jonestown?
Thanks, R. Taylor!
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Whatever it was in 1850,
it was temperature utopia,
and any change in either direction
is a climate emergency.
People living in 1850
thought their climate was too cold.
But what would they know?
They were not climate scientists.
Didn’t have climate computer games.
They didn’t even have computers.
I don’t know about 1850 but Kehinde Andrews, Professor of Black Studies at Birmingham City University, claims to know what the temperature was around that time.
“What is the first act of Europe in the Americas? It is the largest genocide that has ever existed on the planet…I actually don’t understand the science of this, but apparently there were so many people killed, the temperature of the earth actually rose.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wermPu-oG5w&t=2820s (42.20)
Think of it this way: The Earth gets energy from the Sun, the surface of which is many thousands of Kelvins, and rejects energy to space, with its temperature around zero Kelvin, At any one time, the surface temperature on the Earth ranges from 230K to 310K! That’s an 80K spread, balanced around the freezing point of water, to which life on Earth is well adapted. And the CACC crowd is in a frenzy that sometime in the future, the temperature somewhere on Earth might increase 0.5 to 1.0K? Rounding error, anyone?
Close to +1.5 degrees C. was already reached twice, in April 1998 and in February 2016, during the peak heat month of two unusually large El Nino Pacific Ocean heat releases.
Millions died. It was in all the newspapers.
Didn’t you read about the carnage?
I am thankful to have survived.
Saved by my titanium lined bicycle helmet.
This is real science, Wojick,
not that old fogey stuff we learned in school,
with uncertainty, integrity, error bars
and all that other baloney:
+1.49 degrees C. = no problem
+1.5 degrees C. = climate emergency
This must be true because scientists say so.
And they have bigger computers than we do.
And climate computer games so complex
that no one can understand them.
That’s real science!
If it’s already too late then stop with the hair on fire screeching, sit back, relax, and adjust to what’s coming as best we can.
“A child born in 2020 will face a far more hostile world that its grandparents did,” McGuire insists.
Let’s imagine the world that such a child would face if the green zealots had their way. One with no or few internal combustion engines. Furnaces without natural gas. Electricity blackouts and rationing on a daily basis. Sky high prices of everything as the most efficient ways of producing and transporting will be scuttled. And so on and on.
“A child born in 2020 will face a far more hostile world that its grandparents did…”
I agree, but not for the reasons McGuire states. The greens are making this a worse world. Big government helps prevent people from improving their lot in life. Decarbonization lowers the future standard of living.
Steve
“ “A child born in 2020 will face a far more hostile world that its grandparents did,” McGuire insists.”
Indeed.
If the world is ruled by Poisoner Putin, the delightful Pooh-Bear-look-alike Xi, or their successors [even through the UN], then – most of us will be dead.
Target population is 750-500 million.
Global population – 7,964,389,101
per worldometers.info estimate at about 2100 GMT/31st August.
So 90% dead. Or more …….
Most of the rest helots, or slaves or concubines.
Not the future I desire, sorry.
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It’s not Putin who’s pushing Green suicide
“A child born in 2020 will face a far more hostile world that its grandparents”
Yes, poisoned landfills full of discarded, toxic solar panels and EV batteries.
That’s likely to be true and the most tragic thing is that because humans are infinitely adaptable they will consider all that to be completely normal. When us old fogies tell them that when we used to flip a light switch the lights would come on no matter when or that we could buy meat for every meal if we wanted, they will call us wasteful, selfish, arrogant or other names and will shun us. Or send us to the re-education camps.
‘As to the reason for the world’s tragically tardy response, McGuire blames a “conspiracy of ignorance, inertia, poor governance, and obfuscation and lies by climate change deniers that has ensured that we have sleepwalked to within less than half a degree of the dangerous 1.5C climate change guardrail. Soon, barring some sort of miracle, we will crash through it.”’
The truth, of course, is that the Alarmists are overwhelmingly favored by academia, governments, corporates, non-profits, etc.:
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2022/07/rigging-war-fossil-fuels-david-horowitz-and-john-perazzo/
Tragically tardy response, says the prof? Can you imagine what things would be like now if we’d all been a bit less tardy and done what Germany have done to its electricity grid, and what Sri Lanka did to their farming?
We’re seeing signs that other countries are desperately trying to catch up though, (near blackouts in Aus, Netherlands, Canada and Ireland trying to nobble their farming sectors by banning fertiliser use, NZ farming getting hammered by government), so maybe it won’t be too long before we get to see the fruits of our efforts.
Of course, none of it will have the slightest impact on the climate.
Actually, I’d be interested to hear from somebody about how much we’ve ‘invested’ in fixing climate change to date, and how much effect it’s had on the climate so far. We might be able to extrapolate out and get an idea of how much more money we need to ‘invest’ to get the job done.
People who wouldn’t have a career in academia if they said there was “no problem” might be a little biased…maybe…possibly….?
Bill – let’s party!
As a scientist and a grandfather who has a granddaughter born in 2020… I think this guy is full of it. I remember the 60s,70s,80s, 90s shady diatribes from nut jobs like him. No thanks I don’t think we are past any tipping point. And think the climate and pollution has gotten better. Of course zpg, peak oil, ice, desert, and water world prediction are drug dreams.
The problem is they have the politicians ea.r They are close to getting what they want god help us all
I started reading WUWT around 2008. I remember a similar “It’s already too late so we must act now!” exhortation from one of the High Priests of The Church of Climadisaterology, though I can’t remember which one.
Anyhow, in comments there were several who pointed out that if we are doomed, why are we wasting time and money fighting CAGW? Why don’t we just use the money and party until the end? That’s a sensible position.
Since then there have been quite a few more of those we-are-doomed-it’s-too-late-now declarations with the usual conclusion that therefore, we must spend and do even more.
Yeah… sure… that makes sense. 🙄
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It’s early in comments, so I’ll take a turn and say, “Since we’re already doomed, let’s quit wasting any more money on this Climate Change nonsense and party like it’s 1999!”
Cheers, everybody! The bar is now open.
P.S. Next month somebody else can take a turn when the inevitable “It’s already too late but let’s keep going” article shows up.
“The bar is now open”
That might soon be a problem for people in Germany, well for the beer drinkers at least and that in Germany means almost everyone.
GERMAN breweries have been told to stop the production of beer amid fears Oktoberfest will be cancelled after Russia cut off gas supplies.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/9232167/breweries-stop-beer-putin-energy-germany-octoberfest/
How do you say “bummer!” in German?
Scheisse !
A lack of beer? You mean German ‘beer’. Thank God we’ve got our English Real Ale. Now, that’s what I call a beer!
Let’s make that 2099!
Does this scaremonger know that the Earth’s surface is covered by ocean to 70 %? A perfect natural cooling system?
100% Climate Consensus!
Ewwww! Looks like Hillary Clinton.
Now that there is funny!
“and temperatures in excess of 50C (120F) (will be) are common in the tropics;”
Here’s a a PhD who has been at it for over 50yrs and does not know that there never has, nor never will be a temp like that in the tropics! He is a climate scientist teaching for ½ a century and doesn’t know that. I was in Lagos
Lagos in 1965 where it was 30°C. This weeks highs are 28 -30
https://www.accuweather.com/en/ng/lagos/4607/daily-weather-forecast/4607
50 C = 122 F … BTW
Why is the UK government letting this utter wingnut anywhere near sitting on a panel giving them advice on anything.
Why, you ask? Because that wingnut is getting paid by that panel to tell the panel what they want to hear.
Then, when things go all Sri Lanka, the panel can say they were advised by a genuine professor expert-type, so don’t blame them. Blame him.
Now we’re doom deniers.
Tosh.
We’re all bound to meet our doom.
What’s to deny?
Nobody who lives where the temperature just reached 40C for the first time ever has any business talking about extreme heatwaves. Where I live in Wisconsin most all of our record highs were above 40 C and by far the most were set between July 9 and 15, 1936. We’ve only had two significant heat waves since 2000 (2006 and 2012) and neither lasted more than 2 days.
Alarmists keep claiming that the negative effects of CAGW are now clearly apparent, but I have seen exactly zero hard evidence that this is true. Every claim they make about some weather event being evidence falls to pieces on the most rudimentary examination. Where are the bodies of climate change victims? (People dyeing from cold or heat due to excessive cost of heating or air conditioning as well as eagles, hawks, bats and other casualties of wind turbines count as victims of climate alarmism, not climate change.)
2 days is not a heatwave
I blame the BBC etc
From the article: “”As to the reason for the world’s tragically tardy response, McGuire blames a “conspiracy of ignorance, inertia, poor governance, and obfuscation and lies by climate change deniers that has ensured that we have sleepwalked to within less than half a degree of the dangerous 1.5C climate change guardrail. Soon, barring some sort of miracle, we will crash through it.”
Well, let’s see: According to NASA, the year 2016 was the warmest year in the 21st Century, and the high temperature was said to be 1.2C above NASA’s average. So, temperatures would have to increase 0.3C from the 2016 highpoint, to reach this 1.5C “tipping point”.
But as you can see below, the temperatures have cooled by about 0.6C since the 2016 highpoint, so we are not half a degree from the 1.5C “danger point” we are actually almost 1C from the 1.5C “danger point”. And the cooling may continue.
The author needs to get his facts straight. If he did, he would see there is nothing to worry about concerning the temperatures. The Earth is not overheating, as he claims.
Heat waves, as with all other weather, are local, not global. Whatever temperature a heat wave is, it is in relation to the location’s average temperature, not in relation to the idea of a planet that has a 15 C average.
Total Climatista Meltdown™
“Soon it will be unrecognisable”: total climate meltdown cannot be stopped”
So take a couple of aspirin and get some climate anxiety counselling…
Surprisingly I agree with this ignorant fool, we surely will achieve the 1.5 degree threshold and nothing will happen, it will be just another day.
Once there is a paper or study on the environmental impact of mass migration from low carbon footprint countries to high carbon footprint countries, I will take these claims more seriously.
Everything must be changed, the climate alarmists say, but mass immigration to the West must not be questioned.
Spot on. The biggest impact on increasing emissions is population growth. The open U.S. border is more than offsetting anything that Greens suggest is needed to reduce emissions. Yet Biden and his handlers open the border-crossing floodgates while trying to kill fossil fuels. Talk about cognitive dissonance.
Here in the UK, we have lots of idiots, lunatics, morons, cretins, etc. They are generally in the government, run the BBC or spew ‘climate change’ crap. This bloke is in a category all by himself…..
If a meltdown cannot be stopped, then why destroy economies trying to stop it?
Assuming the claim is true, the best way to deal with a meltdown is by adaptation. Adaptation requires money to develop the technologies that enable adaptation, and destroying economies makes the money dry up.