Lowy Institute Climate Concern 2022. Note I added the captions for compactness. Source Lowy Institute

Lowy Institute: Climate Concern “Plateauing” in Australia

Essay by Eric Worrall

Climate concern may not be the big political driver in Australia’s lurch to the left which everyone thought it was.

In a puzzling trend, concern about climate change has plateaued

BEC COLVIN 

Latest polling shows emissions reduction may not have been the hot button issue that swayed the Australian electorate.

In 2022, 60 per cent of Australians feel that climate change is a serious problem that should be addressed urgently.

With this significant change to the Australian climate policy regime, it’s a puzzle then to see that the Lowy Institute’s annual pollingshows little change in the pattern of aggregate climate opinion between the polling conducted around the 2019 election, and the most recent polling conducted two months before the 2022 election. In 2022, 60 per cent of Australians feel that climate change is a serious problem that should be addressed urgently (a further 29 per cent think climate change is a real but less-than-urgent problem, and 10 per cent are not sure that it is a problem at all). This hardly differs from the 61 per cent in 2019. In fact, the Lowy Institute’s polling has indicated a clear majority of Australians have favoured urgent action on climate change for a good five years now; well ahead of the 2022 change of government to give power to a party with comparatively stronger climate ambition.

The stabilisation of climate opinion in the Lowy Institute’s polling from 2018 at a near 60 per cent majority wanting urgent action follows a tumultuous decade of climate politics in Australia featuring unprecedented industry mobilisation, within and between party conflict, and divisive political campaigning. Given the high point of climate opinion at the beginning of the Lowy Institute’s polling in 2006 with demand for urgent action at 68 percent, it’s significant that climate opinion could erode as far as its low point in 2012, when it dipped to 36 per cent. And, it’s particularly significant that public support for urgent action waned under the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd Labor governments of 2007–2013 that worked to implement a climate policy regime, against unprecedented public opposition campaigning by the minerals industry, before strengthening under the Abbot-Turnbull-Morrison Coalition governments of 2013–2022 that came to power from opposition with a commitment to “axe the tax” on carbon emissions.

Should Australians demand ambitious climate action until they have to grapple with the realities of and contestation about climate policy implementation? If climate opinion remains stable at 60 per cent favouring urgent action while the Albanese government implements its climate policy regime – potentially against the headwinds of the powerful “Carbon Club”opposition from politics, industry and the media – the question of whether the 2022 election marks a step-change in Australia’s relationship with climate action may be answerable.

Read more: https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/puzzling-trend-concern-about-climate-change-has-plateaued

I guess the real explanation for the change in Federal government last May was, nobody liked former Aussie Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

Possibly the most damaging thing ScoMo did during his tenure is describe the entire state of Western Australia as “Cave Dwellers”, not modern humans – my conservative WA friends were still spitting about it in the leadup to the election. They didn’t vote for him. This misstep was closely followed by mishandling of a parliamentary sexual assault case, which caused a crash in support from women voters, and other episodes of poor judgement like leaving for a holiday in the middle of a major bushfire, which made ScoMo seem out of touch and insensitive to people’s needs. This his final fake looking pivot, his detail free attempt to embrace Net Zero, made him look weak and duplicitous.

One fascinating point made by Lowy is that climate concern tends to plummet when a government is elected which attempts to do something about carbon emissions, presumably because the economic pain caused by the attempt is a wake up call that there are other priorities. The current Aussie government has already had problems on that front, skyrocketing energy prices and blackout threats.

Lowy didn’t mention Climategate, though Aussie climate concern was falling well before 2009, when the Climategate emails were released. Climategate was a rare public reveal, which for a time shattered people’s perceptions of scientific objectivity, because it showed scientists acting more like spoiled children or politicians than scientists – applying questionable looking “tricks” and fiddles to data, like apparently deleting data which didn’t comply with the narrative they were presenting, denying skeptics access to data, threats of physical violence, and using dirty tricks like threats of boycotting scientific journals to try to exclude competing viewpoints, or try to have unsympathetic journal editors fired.

The funniest part of this poll is the confirmation that Greens are their own worst enemies. If greens had embraced nuclear power from the start, there would have been no painful economic wakeup call, and possibly even no Climategate. I only started questioning the alleged climate crisis because of the vehement rejection of the most obvious solution. Many of us had similar wakeup calls along the path to skepticism. It was like Greens wanted to fail.

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July 2, 2022 6:08 pm

“Climate Concern “Plateauing” in Australia”
at a high level
In 2022, 60 per cent of Australians feel that climate change is a serious problem that should be addressed urgently “
That is a good majority in electoral terms. If they decided the previous government thought differently, that would explain a lot of the swing.

Last edited 1 month ago by Nick Stokes
Gary Pearse
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 2, 2022 7:34 pm

I guess I’m not surprised that electorates these days seem to act illogically. A very stiff economic kick in the backside is needed to budge ideologically entrenched voters. Ive tried to tell friends and family that the party they have always voted for is not what they think it is today. Everything but the name has changed.

‘Liberals’ have shifted so far left that the traditional left is virtually irrelevant. It seems that the left doesn’t care about people anymore with the outsourcing of their constituency to Eurocentric global governance boffins. Liberals similarly get voted in locally but their loyalty is to the globalists, too. Oddly conservatives seem more concerned about what is happening to the poor than the other parties.

In UK, the parties are totally homogenized. No one seems to care about the well-being of the their people, or the industries that give them jobs.

I’m afraid impoverishment reaching up into the middle class will be needed to shake up generations brainwashed K to PhD in school and numbing by governments and the media.

That Pink line in the graph is we sceptics at 10%! Even though John the Cartoonist Cook’s 97% consensus study was hogwash, he isn’t really far off on the overall status of where the population is. I hope Atlas’s shoulder can hold out.

Mr.
Reply to  Gary Pearse
July 2, 2022 7:49 pm

Everyone says they’re worried about “the climate” until it comes to costing them $$$$s personally.

Look at how poorly all those “pay extra for environmentally friendly whatever” programs have fared.

And a couple of days ago I posted this graph from the UN’s 7 million people survey across 194 countries, where people rated ‘Action On Climate Change’ LAST out of 16 possible major concerns in life.

UN My world 7 million survey life priorities.jpg
Gary Pearse
Reply to  Mr.
July 3, 2022 2:10 pm

Yes, but despite this, we are having our livelihoods and galloping cost of living from gov policy pushing us into bankruptcy and famine. Having outsourced constituencies, they don’t heed or care about how we feel about it.

Editor
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 2, 2022 11:44 pm

We’ll never know, but I suspect that if Scott Morrison had abandoned his ‘net zero’ policy he could actually have won the election. With his IMHO stupid attempt to appease the greens and teals (who would never ever vote for him anyway) he threw away the one issue that could distinguish him from Labor.

Graham
Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 2, 2022 6:40 pm

Hey Nick .
You can fool some of the people some of the time .
But you can’t fool all of the people and with present energy policies in Aus the public are waking up .
When stupid policies start affecting nearly every ones pocket people begin to question why and think again .
Constant climate propaganda works well untill every day life is affected with rising prices of nearly every thing .
The electors generally get the government that they deserve .
So good luck as you sure will need it .

Dennis
Reply to  Graham
July 2, 2022 9:05 pm

Frying pan and fire comes to mind.

george1st:)
Reply to  Graham
July 3, 2022 1:52 am

But its Russia Russia Russia
That’l fool em even more

Herbert
Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 2, 2022 7:45 pm

Nick,
60% support for the proposition that “climate change is a serious problem that should be addressed urgently” is indeed a good majority in electoral terms.
The problem is that the support is fragile, and depends on the framing of the question.
The support has gone from 68%(2006) to 36% (2012) to 60% now.
In addition you will find surveys indicating that when the cost of “urgent action on climate change” requires personal financial sacrifice by citizens the desire for action evaporates.
At about $100+ a month, in Australia, only a single digit number of citizens are prepared to contribute to “saving the planet.”
In the US, $40+ a month seems to be the cut off.
Worse for your argument, the “urgent action” proposed by the new Federal Labor Government is the “Powering Australia” energy policy.
According to this, a transition to 82% renewables by 2030 and Net Zero 2050 will cost nothing,(not even ‘less than the cost of a cappuccino a week’ as Kevin Rudd said in 2007),will produce 605,000 new green jobs, and will see a refund to the public of $275 yearly on energy bills by 2030.
This nonsense before the election is still being peddled by Albanese while electricity costs have increased nationally on 1 July by 12% to 18% and that is just the start.
Contrary modelling commissioned by the IPA predicts that energy bills will double by 2030.
We will see who is correct.

Mr.
Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 2, 2022 8:10 pm

Nick I read this analysis of election swings to The Greens.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-02/greens-conservative-voters-federal-election-parliament/101200284

Affluent localities ticked up their vote considerably. (> $2 million median house values)

I was not surprised at this –
quite a few of my rich friends and family with 18 – 24 live-at-home kids ditched their lifelong voting habits and voted what their kids badgered them to do.
They openly admitted to a “go along to get along” position.
They are now well off enough to not need to really care about whether a political party is “on their side” as far as business or financial interests are concerned.

So The Greens are who the “cool kids” vote for, and all the rest follow suit.

Greens are adroit (shameless?) at targeting naive youth with their alarmist ooga-booga.

Still, we can remain hopeful that –
“if you’re not a socialist at 20 you don’t have a heart, but if you’re still a socialist at 40 you don’t have a brain”.

Graham
Reply to  Mr.
July 3, 2022 1:22 am

This is why our guvement in NZ is so keen to give 16 and 17 year olds the vote .
Brain wash them at school and we will be in power for life .

Rich Davis
Reply to  Mr.
July 4, 2022 12:10 pm

What happens when a socialist at age 20 smokes cannabis daily until they are 40? Now I wonder why the Greens are pushing for recreational use? Any ideas?

Dave Fair
Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 2, 2022 8:19 pm

60%: “Address climate seriously.” “But I didn’t mean wreck the economy and throw me out of a job!” “They told me it would improve the economy and create jobs.” “Who the hell has been lying to me?” “Throw the bastards out!”

Dennis
Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 2, 2022 9:04 pm

Nick are you aware that very few signatory nations achieved the IPCC Kyoto Agreement emissions target? But Australia well exceeded the target. And now well on the way to achieving Paris Agreement target that again few other signatory nations are achieving.

The installation of unreliable energy wind and solar is because of State Governments that are responsible for electricity supply, that privatised State power stations and transmission lines and have the responsibility and powers to approve development applications including for wind, solar, power stations, transmission lines, mining, gas fields and many other ventures. Australia has unfortunately been active in seeking new renewable energy investments and paying them specific incentive subsidies from taxpayer’s monies, and who pay the cost of living increases arising.

China produces additional emissions every year that exceed the total emissions from Australia, and do not have a Paris Agreement emissions target. China has maybe agreed to think about emissions after 2030, now one of the biggest global economies quickly catching up to the United States of America.

Australians including myself, in the majority, are increasingly sceptical about the climate hoax political agendas. As compared to natural climate and weather.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 2, 2022 9:18 pm

As the German experience shows steep cuts in (beneficial) CO2 emissions can only be had by steep cuts in energy use that can only be had by a steep rise in cost.
Let’s see after three years of Albanese’s absurdly incoherent energy policy: “a 43% [not 42% not 44%] cut to emissions by 2030” simultaneously setting the country up for a “future powered by cleaner, cheaper energy”.

Last edited 1 month ago by Chris Hanley
Bob Close
Reply to  Chris Hanley
July 4, 2022 6:32 am

Chris, we can’t afford three years of this RE crap! They have to learn what’s real this year, and we have to help they do it by shoving the alarmist climate guff in their faces. Ask pertinent climate science questions in parliament and in the press, get the government on the backfoot and nervous, force the academic alarmist elite to explain their positions and the horrendous costs of climate abatement.
As we know that natural CO2 and industrial emissions have had nothing to do with long term global climate in the past, why should that change now? Where is the evidence that CO2 above 300ppm can warm climate when its ability to absorb Infra Red (heat) spectra is almost totally saturated, and the other main GHG water vapour tends to act as a moderator creating clouds that bring cooling. The IPCC reports don’t reflect this basic physics, they only churn out more unrealistic climate models, that are essentially garbage in-garbage out.
Australia and the world in general needs to be smarter than this, maybe more regional wars are the answer to the current stupidity, that is represented by our national climate and energy policy. I guarantee that would put paid to the costly renewables and useless battery backup nonsense, as industry cannot work efficiently with costly, part time energy methods. The Germans, Dutch, and British are finding that out now, we should not blindly follow them down the climate/energy plughole.

Tom Halla
July 2, 2022 6:33 pm

There is enough of a nihilist element among serious greens that they act as if they do not care if society melts down.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 3, 2022 2:14 pm

Except they are forging ahead with disaster without the support of a mandate.

TallDave
Reply to  Gary Pearse
July 4, 2022 5:02 pm

why not? their beliefs are demonstrably unfalsifiable

no matter how wrong they turn out to be, they’ll simply wave it away with plausible-sounding pseudo-scientific nonsense, as they do with the clear fact Hansen very publicly predicted many times the actual temperature increase that transpired, and insist we double down on the same policies

if it cools they’ll happily take credit for that too, just as soon as a new model can be backfitted, stridently demanding we shut down industry until we cool the planet back to 1850s levels

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ResourceGuy
July 2, 2022 6:42 pm

Is that another way of saying Peak Stupid?

John V. Wright
July 2, 2022 6:52 pm

Yes – and let’s not forget that although the Left managed to change the terminology to ‘climate change’ (not even ‘manmade climate change’ in media shorthand), the public don’t forget that it used to be called ‘global warming’ – and as Christopher Monckton pointed out on this blog just a few hours ago, it isn’t getting any warmer…

Mike
July 2, 2022 7:17 pm

Sad to see only 10% see no ”problem”

Russell
Reply to  Mike
July 2, 2022 9:22 pm

So you think the Lowey methodology is immune from bias?
This reported 100% are just the people who actually responded to the survey.
On the basis of the election result with primary votes down for all major parties, you can bet there is a fairly large number of punters who just said “not interested” to the survey or gave untruthful answers to confound the poll. I would – there’s nothing illegal in that.
No amount of extra “replacement” survey targets can remove a truly entrenched skeptical bias. How well do you think such a survey would go in China or Russia?
Don’t be sad … underground skeptics unite.

Danley Wolfe
July 2, 2022 7:24 pm

Blogo stuff, not a game changer !!

Geoff Sherrington
July 2, 2022 7:25 pm

Temperature is also on a ‘plateau’ and has been for the last 10 years.
Geoff S
http://www.geoffstuff.com/uahjune.jpg

David S
July 2, 2022 8:01 pm

In 2022, 60 per cent of Australians feel that climate change is a serious problem that should be addressed urgently.” That’s a significant majority. So the Australians are in for a lot more climate change legislative pain.

Dave Fair
Reply to  David S
July 2, 2022 8:25 pm

Until voters see the decline in their standard of living. “Inflation and high gas prices is Putin’s fault” only works for so long.

Matt Kiro
July 2, 2022 8:15 pm

I would think the draconian anti- Democratic lockdowns played a role in the vote also. Australia had some of the most severe restrictions

commieBob
July 2, 2022 8:21 pm

If you ask people right out if they think climate change is a big problem, they will probably say yes. No surprise. If you word the question right, you can get any answer you want.

On the other hand, if you ask them what’s the nation’s most important problem, less than 2% of them will say climate change.

There’s the ongoing Gallup poll asking people what’s the nation’s most important problem. It’s open ended, ie. they don’t supply a list of answers. Of the answers they got, about 2% could be lumped under ‘Environment/Pollution/Climate change’, so that means less than 2% mentioned climate change.

Right now, unsurprisingly, economic problems are trending up. Given the choice, people will fix the economy way before they will want to do anything about climate change.

Dave Fair
Reply to  commieBob
July 2, 2022 8:32 pm

Yep, after the government money and mortgage policies tanked the economy in 2008 concern about the economy went up to the 70-80% range. Under President Trump it went down into the 10s and below. Brandon and the Leftist team has driven it up into the 40s, with all expectations it will grow much larger. FJB and F_Leftists.

Old Man Winter
July 2, 2022 8:34 pm

I found this referenced @ Power LIne (Green Dreams Dashed 7/1/22)-

https://www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2022/06/26/chasing_utopian_energy_how_i_wasted_20_years_of_my_life_839185.html

He was at least “purple pilled” & lists ways to see if an energy source
is viable. (As an energy entrepreneur, investor, & writer, he may be
a bit of a salesman.)

NOTE: I went to RealClear Energy’s homepage, & they list many articles & papers
on energy from many global sources. Some may be worth reading.

Michael ElliottMichael Elliott
Reply to  Old Man Winter
July 2, 2022 9:36 pm

I recently brought up The Great Global Warming Swindle, documentary.

It’s a few years back now, but still well worth watching.

We should tell the Greens that they started off with Global Warming, so why change to Climate Change ?

It’s obvious, they could not sell Global Warming.

It’s all about Power. First destroy a country’s economy, then offer them a solution, Communism Mark Two.

Michael VK5ELL

gbaikie
July 2, 2022 8:54 pm

Has anyone bother to tell the Aussies that they have not made any measurable effect upon our ice house global climate?

Dennis
July 2, 2022 8:55 pm

“I guess the real explanation for the change in Federal government last May was, nobody liked former Aussie Prime Minister Scott Morrison.”

Not really but there can be no doubt that many Australians had been exposed to relentless negativity, character assassination including deception relying on the average voter not understanding the areas of responsibility and powers at the three levels of Government. For example the spin that PM Morrison was on holidays in Hawaii while major bushfires were burning at home. Bushfire fighting is constitutionally State Government responsibility, there is no Federal Emergency Service or Rural Fire Service, for example. State Premiers and Cabinets are responsible for dealing with natural disasters including fires and floods. The deceptive comments targeted at PM Morrison ignored that whenever a PM (or a Premier) is away the Deputy takes over, the role becomes Acting Prime Minister or Acting Premier.

It must be noted that at the recent Federal Election two thirds of voters did not give their primary or first vote to Labor, and the Coalition received a few per cent more primary votes than Labor did but because of the flawed preferential voting system Labor ended up with the most seats in Parliament.

The as always left leaning media helped to spread the propaganda targeting PM Morrison and the government he led. They rarely gave attention to achievements but nearly always mentioned trivial matters and opposition mischief. And effectively supporting Labor and Greens were the rogue Liberals In Name Only (LINO left) who have been actively opposing PM Morrison and earlier PM Abbott.

PM Morrison made mistakes, his Cabinet of Ministers must share any blame of course. But he/they did many good things including funding employers and employees during the State imposed lockdowns, other restrictions, vaccine mandates and interstate border closures resulting in the pandemic recession recovery to produce credible 3.5 per cent GDP growth and the lowest level of unemployment since the 1970s.

Labor likes to blame the Morrison Government for debt creation but they protested when the employer-employee support funding ended and demanded for it to continue. Labor also ignores that the Current Account Federal debt of about $800 billion (trillion dollars is a Forward Estimate of future debt level). And just over $400 billion was what Labor contributed to Current Account debt from their 2013/14 Budget: borrowing, under estimated deficit and unfunded major budget expenditure items that the Abbott Government had to borrow to fund what were commitments to State Governments like National Disability Insurance Scheme and Gonski Education Grants.

Australians must have noted the announcements by Prime Minister Albanese that Australia is now backing climate change agenda. At COP26 PM Morrison refused to ban coal mining and exports, refused to increase Australia’s Paris Agreement emissions target and refused to commit to net zero emissions offering “an aspirational goal” instead based on development of new technology (if possible) and without damaging the economy. Yet many Australians were told that net zero was a commitment and the Morrison Government was criticised for that “commitment”.

One of Australia’s leading investigative journalists, Sharri Markson, produced evidence on her Sky News programme to show how PM Morrison was undermined and smeared, relentlessly. Around the same time sales and marketing people who created the Labor election campaign admitted that PM Morrison was personally targeted, has a problem with women (he doesn’t), the false bushfire accusations, etc.

Dennis
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 2, 2022 9:41 pm

I met a NSW volunteer fire fighter not long ago at a dinner and he was explaining his experiences during the bushfires late in 2019 and early 2020. He told what he believed was a city audience that city people have no idea how seriously bad the fires were until I cut in and explained that near where I live on the NSW Mid Coast there were several major bushfires inside one town and in the district surrounding, and I was in residence at the time to see the crisis up close.

He then commented that “Morrison” should have done more and should not have gone on a holiday overseas. I explained that the Acting PM had cooperated with the NSW State Government when Federal assistance was requested by sending Australian Defence Force personnel and assets to bushfire areas, noting that ADF personnel are not trained bushfire fighters. I also pointed out that earlier the Federal Government has agreed to a NSW Government request for special funding for additional charter aircraft in anticipation of the 2019/20 bushfire season being potentially a major problem, in fact the preparations were made for the 2018/19 bushfire season but the dry drought conditions prevailing did not provide the crisis in that season. The Federal Government also funded a new Boeing 737 tanker-fire bomber for the NSW Rural Fire Service Air Wing.

The volunteer was obviously confused by my comments but added that “Morrison” was a description a cannot post here.

As you commented, there are many stories about PM Morrison. But when facts are presented most are untrue and/or inaccurate. For example net zero was not a commitment as I posted, PM Morrison refused to commit and said Australia will have an aspirational goal to achieve it subject to development of new technology and without damaging the economy.

But now PM Albanese and Cabinet will commit well and truly.

TallDave
Reply to  Dennis
July 4, 2022 5:07 pm

and in a world where ECS < 2 it does nothing worthwhile anyway

John in Oz
Reply to  Dennis
July 3, 2022 7:33 pm

He then commented that “Morrison” should have done more and should not have gone on a holiday overseas.

Not much in the lamestream media at the moment about Albo being AWOL while the country experiences floods, high power/fuel prices and we are still in a pandemic (apparently).

Media bias????????

Bob Close
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 4, 2022 7:03 am

Eric, Net zero was the killer, but before that failing to act on the ABC’s blatant bias was cowardly, failing to control the national committee on Covid was stupid, and getting enmeshed in Labor’s woke social agenda was sickening timewasting. Morrison did some good initial things in the pandemic, with defense and procurement and in foreign policy plus trade, but the media was against his government and his spin merchants were not up to the job.
As a scientist I am a climate sceptic, and for me this is critical, his government never made any attempt to question the climate dogma that Turnbull worshiped as his personal religion. Abbott strangely failed to contest climate science even though he won the climate election handsomely and One Nation’s Senator Roberts in 2015-16 gave him the ammunition required to nail this issue properly. The public is ignorant of these scientific matters, but governments should not be allowed to have this excuse for inaction, given the turmoil with energy we are now facing, a direct result of government complacency and public service complicity. Shame on you all !

Bob
July 2, 2022 9:17 pm

I put almost no stock in polls, I haven’t seen a poll yet that was written properly. It is no surprise that many people believe that man is causing the globe to get hotter. That is all they hear 24/7. What outlets are available for those with a differing opinion? I’ll bet next to none and if a differing opinion is leaked out it is for the sole purpose to tear down those with a different opinion. The media, academia, government administrator and bureaucrats, politicians and shysters in line to make a profit from unworkable renewable energy clearly hold the cards. There is only one thing that will wake these dummies up, all non wind and solar need to be shut down for maintenance, all at the same time. It is the only thing that will get the consumer’s attention and it will be a big enough shock that the consumers will no longer give a hoot what all the liars and cheats have been saying to them.

Simonsays
July 2, 2022 10:32 pm

They should redo this poll in about 3 months. All the major electricity providers just raised there rates by 20 to 25%. The September quarter bill is going to be shock for a lot of people.

Dennis
Reply to  Simonsays
July 2, 2022 10:43 pm

Will there be a notation on electricity bills for customers to relax because renewable energy is getting cheaper?

Coeur de Lion
July 2, 2022 11:17 pm

Erm, what percentage is Australian CO2 to global?

Ed Zuiderwijk
July 3, 2022 1:31 am

It is much more simple, Eric. There are only two kind of people: those who do want to tell others how to live and those who do not. Greenies are invariably of the former kind, as are socialists, fascists, communists and so on.
It has nothing to do with ‘nature’, but everything with control.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
July 4, 2022 12:41 pm

As William F Buckley, Jr once said, there are two kinds of people in the world—those who put people into two categories, and those who do not.

george1st:)
July 3, 2022 1:43 am

Activism are the activists paychecks .
Give em an inch , they take a mile then wont another inch .
Gotta keep the ball rolling .

July 3, 2022 4:04 am

The problem with climate change, the unrecognised problem, is that the general population is not responding in a coherent manner to oft repeated and increasingly strident warnings.

And it’s not just warnings; even the most striking examples of its impact today; the destruction of the rain forests, the melting of glaciers and ice caps, the bleaching of the great coral reef in Australia, forest fires, draughts,  and foods, all these are having little impact on public opinion. But why ?

One organisation has an answer, check out “Stop Selling the Desert”. 

 

Zane
July 3, 2022 4:19 am

The climate isn’t changing fast enough for the green nutters, or the carpetbaggers riding the AGW gravy train. The Lowys themselves seem to prefer the climate in Tel Aviv and New York these days. It’s always sunny somewhere in Lowyland.

griff
July 3, 2022 8:24 am

Well ,let’s see: NSW is facing its third and likely most serious (record) flood event of 2022…

and that new level of flooding is clearly climate related.

And didn’t the greens do pretty well in the election?

I think people in Australia are more minded to take notice of climate change than ever

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2022 12:43 pm

From a comment on
NotALotOfPeopleKnowThat

Stuart Hamish on July 3, 2022 at 12:05 pm

For the Australian BoM rainfall series the conspicuously wettest year was 1974 – accoompanied by widespread floods [ the volume of Lake Eyre was the highest in centuries ] – and the peak cyclone years notified in the BoM cyclone time series were the 1970’s …The record Australian bushfire season was 1974-75

Iain Russell
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2022 6:07 pm

Is this the rain that will never fall, and if it does it will not fill the rivers and dams? Oh, different rain.

Mr.
Reply to  Iain Russell
July 3, 2022 8:00 pm

Yeah I notice that the Climate Council has been keeping Tim Flannery well away from microphones, cameras and newspaper opinion pages for quite a while now 🙂

Graham
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2022 10:41 pm

Australia has had floods and droughts since Abel Tasman first visited and along time before that.
They have also had bush fires as Captain Cook reported on his voyage around the world .
You alarmists seem to think that floods and droughts are becoming more frequent and more severe .
They might cause more damage in some situations but their are a lot more built up areas close to rivers that were grass or scrub land 100 years ago .
A lot of flooding in new towns are self afflicted as there is far more runoff from roads and roofs than open country side and planners should be aware that lower land close to rivers is at risk .
The other problem in many towns around the world is that town councils are banned or are reluctant to clear water ways .
Any farmer knows that drainage is important to keep low lying land from ponding but even this is becoming harder to do with the authorities trying to tell us that we can’t clean our drains .
.

Rich Davis
Reply to  griff
July 4, 2022 12:45 pm

Yes, yes, griffy. It has never rained in Australia before. You might even say, they’ll all be runed.

Jeff Alberts
July 3, 2022 9:25 am

“Need more evidence of a problem”

Need ANY evidence of a problem.

MACK
July 4, 2022 12:56 am

Due to commodity exports and reasonably sensible central bankers, Australia has not had any significant economic contraction for 30 years. Climate change is a rich country issue, and when Australia does have an economic slow-down, concern about the climate will plunge.

TallDave
July 4, 2022 11:18 am

this is what happens when you let them blame literally everything on climate change over and over

history will remember this sad episode of panicking over a .13C/decade trend as one of the species’ largest-scale and silliest mistakes, on par with a World War

but with any luck, future generations will learn to be re-dedicated to scientific rigor and skeptical of raving green techno-wizards with inscrutable crystal balls and tales of impending doom if we don’t do what they demand

Last edited 1 month ago by TallDave
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