Essay by Eric Worrall
President Trump was asked a question about climate change on Fox News. His answer has driven liberals nuts.
Huff Post has accused Trump of ignorance;
Trump Still Can’t Wrap Head Around Climate Change: ‘You Have A Thing Called Weather’
“And you go up and you go down,” the former president explained on Fox Business when asked if human activity has anything to do with climate change.
By Mary Papenfuss
Mar. 21, 2022, 09:06 PM EDTFormer President Donald Trump clearly hasn’t been studying up on climate change since his stint in the Oval Office. The observation he offered in a Fox Business interview Monday is that “you have a thing called weather.”
Trump pushed his “weather” theory when host Stuart Varney asked him if thought “human activity” — such as the burning of fossil fuels — is responsible for climate change.
“In my opinion, you have a thing called weather,” Trump responded. “And you go up and you go down.”
He added: “If you look into the 1920s, they were talking about global freezing. OK? In other words, the globe was going to freeze. And then they go global warming, and then they couldn’t use that because the temperatures were actually quite cool, and it’s many different things … the climate’s always been changing.”
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There were no claims of “global freezing” in the 1920s, as Trump claims, though some scientists hypothesized, in largely discredited findings, that world temperatures declined from 1945 to 1972. In any case, any natural trend toward another ice age was interrupted by the “massive influence” of the burgeoning burning of fossil fuels, scientists have noted.
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Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-weather-climate-change-denial-fox-business_n_6238f3c3e4b0f1e82c4d58b0
One thing notably missing from the Huff Post tirade is any basic research into what Trump actually said. Because there is evidence of an unusual temperature excursion in the 1920s.
The following is from The Washington Post, 1922;
President Trump might have gotten the direction of the 1920s arctic temperature excursion wrong, but Trump’s claim is spot on, about there being evidence of climate shifts which occurred well before we could have had a significant influence.
I’m hoping the Huff Post reporter is just an incompetent researcher, and overlooked evidence of a substantial 1920s arctic temperature excursion. Because it would be truly sad if Huff Post reporter Mary Papenfuss discovered evidence of arctic warming and glacier retreat in the early 1920s, and chose to not to reveal it to readers, for fear of providing readers with evidence that President Trump has a point.
Trump had his chance to make a difference; but he decided to play safe.
Trump had a lot of obstacles thrown in front of him. An unprecedented amount of obstacles. I thought Trump handled it pretty well given the circumstances.
Trump always sounds like a grade-school dropout. Not really the best advocate for skepticism/climate realism. But the Climate Caterwaulers are hoist by their own petard with their “extreme weather” gambit. According to them, the weather is climate, but only when they say it is.
Trump leaves himself open to misinterpretation by his detractors by saying imprecise things.
I don’t think Trump can change his method of delivery, that’s ingrained in him, and it doesn’t bother me a bit, but it bothers some people.
But you can’t argue with Trump’s results. The differences between a good president and a bad president ought to be blindingly obvious today.
Gasoline was $0.10/gal higher when I bought it today than last time that I did. It was about $60 to fill up. It was often under $30 during Trump’s time in office.
Joe did that.
“But you can’t argue with Trump’s results. “
You mean the lack of them…. according to C-Span he is the worst president in the last 150 years. Quite a feat given there have been some plonkers.
https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overall
TDS infection alert.
Get vaccinated PDQ.
The left …and some of the right…..are like the guy who complained about the colour of the walls after the artist just painted the Sistine chapel.
Mary Papenfuss really put her foot in it.
Just a question: if there was a below-average period (chilly weather) during the 1920s, and it was followed by the prolonged drought of the 1930s, isn’t there a clue in there to weather’s tendency to go in cycles?
Just askin’, because weather cycles are essentially short-termed over time. Example: we’re having cold winters where I live, but the snow load that we might ‘normally” get was low last winter and again this winter. Both winters (2020 – 2021 and 2021 – 2022) were dry enough to leave the local watershed low in water in the soil, and the winters before these were “normal” with heavy loads of snow. Cold, always, but the precipitation load is what counts. I have photos of a bridge across a northern tributary of the Mississippi River, up here in my area, that show plenty of water nearly up to the floor of that bridge for spring through fall every year since 2006, and then the past two springs, summers and autumns show the same bridge over that river to be high and dry – so much so that the geese going south were using the banks as a rest stop, and coming back, they were acting like they’re going to start nesting. I’ve also noticed (and photographed) the open prairie areas where wildflowers will normally bloom and both of the last two years, they’ve been sparse and almost dormant.
These things come in cycles. It isn’t climate change, it is weather and it is part of the natural world, which WE mere mortals can’t control. Meddling is far worse than doing nothing.
Trump could triple his fortune if he could charge rent for all the time he spends in these guys’ heads.
The Donald isn’t subtle and he isn’t nuanced. He’s not a details guy. Somehow that’s OK if you say the right things but if you don’t agree with the establishment consensus, it’s a sign of diminished capacity. But the man is generally no fool and certainly is not stupid.
Spot on, jeffery p. Years ago I was a senior techie in a well-known computer firm when we had to manage the installation of very new tech in our major customers (Banks). My dept needed a new manager (passed me over!!! 🙂 ) and the country specialist on the new tech was appointed. I welcomed him to the job and said how glad I was that he was our new boss as we were having problems with the new tech and he would be a great help. No way, he said: I’m here to manage the operation, not to be a techie. If we need more techies my job will be to find them and employ them, not to do their job.
A great parable of what management is about – and one that says what Trump is about too.
The rent on outhouses isn’t very high, especially for basement level units.
i found this two page letter and thought it interesting. don’t know if the author is still alive.
here is page two.
both from here
https://realclimatescience.com/1970s-global-cooling-scare/
Let me make this easy for you.
Therefore: Assume whatever Trump says is factual, truthful, and RIGHT.
There you go. Now whenever you see a headline that says Trump is wrong, you don’t have to bother reading the story.
Trump should have declared the climate in crisis and proposed a $30-trillion plan to fix it. The left would have reflexively declared climate change a crony capitalist scam promulgated by the Russians. Because Trump.
Trump’s instincts of skepticism about “scientific” pronouncements and expert opinion are generally spot on.Today is my last day of official work for the largest health agency in Canada and one of Canada’s established university medical schools. Retirement was going to come at some point, but the timing of mine was greatly encouraged but the fact these institutions show no sign of being led by science but rather a tendency to want to be among the sheep of progressive thinking and self destructive illogic. This is no slight on the many great folks I have work alongside or who have supported my work over 18 years. It is not the well-intended people in the system who are a problem, it is the incompetent leadership and the system itself. I am so glad there are people like Trump who see something and say it regardless of how others receive it. More truth and less pretending to care and posturing is what we need.
“I am so glad there are people like Trump who see something and say it regardless of how others receive it.”
Me, too.
Trump says the truth and the Left can’t stand the truth, so they excoriate him.
Trump is definitely in their heads. And he should be, as he is a real threat to the Democrats maintaining their political power.
The other real threat to Democrats maintaining their political power is their very own stupidity and delusional view of the world. Any reasonable-looking Republican will beat the radical Democrats at the polls.
And it shouldn’t escape people’s notice that Trump does exactly what he says he’ll do, he doesn’t act on his own behalf but for the good of his country and, being independently wealthy, he doesn’t allow others to buy his favour. Rare traits in politics.
Very rare.
Good for you, Mr. Pattullo. Each of us must do what we can to shine the light of data-driven science to dispel the darkness. Your resigning early, on principle, was a noble thing to do. You thought over that decision quite awhile, I feel certain. In the days to come, when you might have a second thought or two, wondering, “Did ANYONE notice?” Take heart. Your action has and will make a difference. Those who know and respect you noticed. And will think….
Most of us aren’t called to light the world, just our little corner of it.
(((applause)))
And, ENJOY RETIREMENT! 😀
The 2022 mid-term general election is seven months away. Too many who support Donald Trump assume it will be a huge victory for the Republicans and for MAGA.
Don’t count your election victories before they’re hatched. The Democrats are confident they can steal 2022 just as effectively as they stole 2020.
RINO Republicans and Never-Trump Republicans are working with Democrats to thwart the Three November election integrity movement.
We see this happening most prominently in Arizona, in Wisconsin, in Georgia, in Michigan, and to some extent in Pennsylvania. It’s happening everywhere else too, just not as visibly.
The Republican National Committee is run by old-line country club Republicans who are comfortable with the status quo of always being in the minority party. They aren’t supporting the election integrity movement either.
Nor is Dubya, nor is The Turtle, nor is Mittens, nor is Wimp McCarthy, nor are some number of other RINO Republicans now in the Congress, in the state houses, and in the governor’s offices.
The only way for the MAGA wing of the Republican Party to win is for tens of thousands of us all across the nation to get deeply involved as poll watchers and as election workers in keeping a close eye out for vote fraud in the primaries, and then once again before, during, and after the general election in November.
When we report clear instances of vote fraud, some number of us will be arrested by the FBI and by corrupt state and local authorities and will be charged with criminal election interference.
It has happened in Colorado, it will happen in other states too wherever Soros funded DA’s are the prosecutors. But if we come out in the tens of thousands all across the nation as poll watchers and as election workers, they can’t arrest all of us.
Trump is absolutely right – there is something called “weather” and it changes constantly according to what the SUN in relation to earth is doing !!! It gives us our SEASONS and it controls how hot and cold it is according to whether the area of the earth is facing or away from the sun.
…and it takes 30 years (according to an arbitrary IPCC definition) or 60 years (according to accepted natural cycles) to become ‘climate’.
Trump is right – and there is no vote on it that Biden et al can fiddle.
Donald Trump is a goof salesman and has good instincts.
He does not appear to read non-fiction books and learn new things.
He suspects the coming climate crisis is a scam, and it is,
but does not have the curiosity to spend even one hour
reading about climate science to figure out why.
( “Why” … is that always wrong wild guesses about the future climate
are not science. Wrong predictions are never science.
The alleged climate emergency is a prediction based on
unproven feedback theories and wild speculation. Not reality.
Predictions began in ;ate 1950s in science papers
and exploded into the mass media in the 1980s.
Wrong for 65 years in a row! )
Donald Trump could have learned that in five minutes
but is just not interested in learning anything new.
Trump allowed CO2 to be mislabeled as a “pollutant”
for four years, without even trying to sell to the public
the fact that CO2 is the staff of life on this planet,
not a pollutant.
Trump fought the Deep State,
which is admirable,
but the Deep State won..
Trump is one of those people
who does too much talking
and not enough learning.
On the other hand, Trump is a genius
compared with Jumpin’ Joe Biden
and Kamala “dingbat” Harris.
After 40 years of voting Libertarian,
in 2020 I voted for Trump, not because
I thought he was a great president,
but because Joe Biden barely knows
what city he is in
In the spring of 2016, after it was clear The Donald would become the GOP’s nominee, an NPR reporter asked Carl Icahn, a long-time friend of Trump, why it was that the Republican Party had chosen Donald Trump for its candidate.
Icahn said this: “The Republican Party didn’t choose Donald Trump. The people have chosen Donald Trump.”
After being betrayed by Bush 41 on taxes, and then by Bush 43 on the Iraq invasion and on his Supreme Court appointments, I had no problem in 2016 voting for someone who spoke his mind candidly and who had a record in the business world of delivering on his promises.
And Trump was so very good at dissing his TDS critics in the most entertaining and delightfully in-your-face way. While he was president, Trump did 80% of what I thought he should be doing, and the rest was stuff which could wait for his second term.
Which he didn’t get because the Dems were so bold and brazen in stealing the 2020 election. All the signs were there that the election would be stolen. But like a lot of people, I was dazzled by the big Trump rallies and didn’t pay any attention to what was happening until it was too late.
This should make more heads explode:
President Trump Sues Hillary Clinton and Host of Others in RICO Suit Over Russia Collusion Hoax
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/president-trump-sues-hillary-clinton-russia-collusion-hoax/
It’s starting to unfold. Embedded in that same article is latest news on 2020 voting in Wisconsin. Interesting.
Yes who ever thinks chemtrails are the main problem is gotta be real dume….and needs to go bak too skhool…that’s not chemtrails in the sky CNN news said so!and we can trust CNN!
Great statement by Trump. In trying to prove him wrong on cooling they will have to point out that it was warmer than now. It will most likely be ignored as it is trap.
Human caused climate change is a left wing conspiracy theory.
And this is a bad thing?
Doers man change weather? Yes, we know what, in all sorts of ways. Is it a problem? Not at all.
These mealy mouth politicians should simply respond that there is no hard evidence that CO2 emissions from human activities are causing the planet to warm. It is a theoretical hypothesis based on computer models that are too infantile to model climate reliably.
ROFLMAO! Huffington Post no longer has a news service. They shut it down since the creation of their article about Trump/ Why? Because it was losing $10+ million per year
Was it manmade global cooling that caused the Ice Age, or was it manmade global warming that caused the Ice Age to end and the glaciers to recede?