No Change in Precipitation in Austria in 140 Years

Official Data: In Terms Of Precipitation; In Austria There’s Been No Climate Change At All In 140 Years

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By P Gosselin on 28. January 2022

The Austrian Alps have seen no trend change in terms of precipitation since 1880, official data show. 

Climate alarmists have climate horror scenarios for every corner of the globe, and that includes the Austrian Alps. Climate models warn that snow will disappear soon and even gravely harm the ski industry unless we vaccinate the climate against CO2!

No water water scarcity or pollution

In his most recent video, Austrian ski industry researcher Günther Aigner looks if it’s true that there’s been a trend towards water scarcity in the Alps.

Moreover, he looks at the question of whether or not manmade snow production is taking water away water from residents and farmers in the Alps.

The findings:

No trend change in 140 years!

Concerning precipitation trends  and using data from Austria’s weather and climate agencies, Aigner finds there’s been no trend in precipitation for the famous Arlberg ski region since data began to be recorded 140 years ago.

The same is mostly true for all of Austria.

Chart cropped here.

On the question of snow-making’s impact on the local water budget, Aigner says that careful water management practices are used, and: “The water that we use for manmade snow production is neither disappearing nor is it polluted. After the snow has melted, it goes back into the local cycle.”

In summary, there’s been no climate change in terms of precipitation since 1880, and manmade snowmaking is not harming the local water cycle.

Nothing is collapsing and there’s no doom in sight (on the climate front, at least) in Austria.

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Vuk
January 29, 2022 2:12 am

Media is reporting that wrong kind of precipitation has hit the USA east cost cused by global warming.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Vuk
January 29, 2022 2:52 am

MSM are the enemy.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
January 29, 2022 5:44 am

Yes, they most definitely are the enemy. The enemy of freedom and truth.

fretslider
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 29, 2022 7:00 am

The custodians of the narrative

Rich Davis
Reply to  Vuk
January 29, 2022 5:06 am

Here in Connecticut the rumors of Snow-nihilation appear to be greatly exaggerated. We maybe have 4 inches (10cm) as of 8am. Yesterday afternoon hype was 18-24”. I doubt it!

The temperature is far below freezing (18F/-8C) and still falling. The snow is very fluffy and “dry”. Doesn’t seem like there could be enough moisture in the air to support heavy snowfall.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Rich Davis
January 30, 2022 1:32 pm

So we ended up getting about 9” (23cm), half of the low-end prediction. Right in line with the climate model exaggeration factor I guess.

Joseph Zorzin
January 29, 2022 3:30 am

duh…. The Bah-stin Glob today reports:

“Municipal leaders were declaring snow emergencies Friday as the region prepared ahead of a potentially historic nor’easter, a storm system that has meteorologists invoking the specter of the cataclysmic Blizzard of ‘78.”

cataclysmic? somewhat, slightly, sort of an exaggeration?

at dictionary.com- it gives some definitions for cataclysm

  1. any violent upheaval, especially one of a social or political nature.
  2. Physical Geography. a sudden and violent physical action producing changes in the earth’s surface.
  3. an extensive flood; deluge.
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 29, 2022 4:41 am

Forecast night temps:

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AWG
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 29, 2022 5:50 am

The generation that lives in a Zero Day world where there is no history, every event is unprecedented.

Also because of a lifelong diet of click-bait as a form of communication and “learning”, hyperbole must be included in every statement. So the mundane is tagged as “super” otherwise no one would care. But what happens when the hyperbole is itself so hackneyed and plain that it no longer has any heft? Then use another bigger word! In a world that is cool with deconstruction of the language so that words have only personal meaning, “cataclysmic” events now include describing the household pet soiling the rug.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  AWG
January 29, 2022 6:10 am

right- and what you say is obvious to most of us here- but the fact that it’s not obvious to most readers of such media, is what’s truly shocking and shows that the dogma is well entrenched- the Globe now has a new section entirely dedicated to the climate cataclysm- maybe since the newspapers are slowly dying off- they need to raise the stakes- it’s just embarrassing though- that Massachusetts considers itself so smart- so beyond the “fly over states”- yet in truth, it’s so ignorant- the state government certainly thinks climate is cataclysmic to have a net zero by ’50 law on the books – I posted a comment to the blizzard article saying that it’s obvious that the blizzard is due to global warming- I’ll have to see how many people agree with that :-}

fretslider
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 29, 2022 6:58 am

Dumbing down is paying off

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 29, 2022 9:36 am

Fantastic photo of people standing in the snow with the roof tops of cars sticking out underneath them plus lots of other details of the 78 blizzard at

https://www.weather.gov/iln/19780126

Last edited 3 months ago by Dave Andrews
Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Dave Andrews
January 29, 2022 9:41 am

funny, but when people discuss something like that- from way back in ’78- it reminds me of how when I was a kid, my grandfather would talk about WWI- like it was yesterday

Janice Moore
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 29, 2022 10:37 am

I was thinking along those lines recently, too, Mr. Zorzin. When I was in elementary school, in the 1970’s, 1945 seemed like a looooooong time ago. 1990 was only about 10 years back…… wasn’t it? Heh. When we were 12, age 7, 5 years before, seemed like a lifetime back. Time. Our sense of it shows we are more than mere machines….. 😉

Remember when fashions and music (top 40) of just 4 years before seemed passé? For example, songs popular in 1978 seemed “old” by 1982. Now, I can think a popular tune came out “recently” and it’s 20 years old! In 1978 it was wide bottom jeans; in 1982, Levi’s (and we took them in so the legs were skinnier AND c. 1983, when we started blowing out the knees of our too-skinny Levi’s, we just kept on wearing them — holes in the knees were COOL. lol (and now, they have come back! but, they manufacture them that way on purpose)). And I don’t care what’s “in” or “out” anymore — wear and listen to what I like, some “in,” some “classic” — just fun to talk about. 😊

Streetcred
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 29, 2022 2:33 pm

“Classic” is so ‘in’ it never went ‘out’ ! Our music of the 70’s and 80’s is still insurmountable … like wise our fashion sense 😉

Last edited 3 months ago by Streetcred
Janice Moore
Reply to  Streetcred
January 29, 2022 3:14 pm

YeeeeEEEHS! 🙂

Janice Moore
Reply to  Dave Andrews
January 29, 2022 10:11 am

Cool 🙂 photos, Mr. Andrews. Thanks for sharing.

My fave:
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Thanks to PETROLEUM (inner tube from tire and the coal-fired power plants that kept those boys alive and the fuel that brought food to their town, etc., etc.)!

Yeah, and even though those 2 are (if alive) around 60 years old, now — same as ever. Age is just a number. WE BABY BOOMERS WILL SNOWBOARD AND RACE CARS AND HAVE FUN TILL THE DAY WE DIE! 😀 And we will shout about it, too (heh). 😊

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 29, 2022 1:57 pm

Well, this 72 year old won’t do those activities but I will get out my snowshoes tomorrow morning thanks to the “blizzard of ’22” here in New England. The Boston Globe said it might be as horrible as the cataclysmic blizzard of ’78. I’m going to snowshoe over to the 18 acre solar “farm” next to my ‘hood and photograph it capturing clean and green photons under a foot of snow- to power the state’s energy needs.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 29, 2022 3:11 pm

Sounds great! 😊

Bob boder
January 29, 2022 3:32 am

They have even named these new types of storms Nor’easter.

H.R.
Reply to  Bob boder
January 29, 2022 4:05 am

How clever of them. 🙄

Rich Davis
Reply to  Bob boder
January 29, 2022 4:41 am

Yes indeed. Contrary to popular belief, the term “nor’easter” was not coined by 17th century Yankee sailors back when people talked that way. This is a neologism trademarked by the Climate Channel (oops, the Weather Channel)

fretslider
Reply to  Bob boder
January 29, 2022 6:59 am

Ready for light breeze Brian?

H. D. Hoese
Reply to  Bob boder
January 29, 2022 7:40 am

Can’t vouch for 1888, but the term was in common use on the outer Virginia coast previous to the exceptionally serious storm in 1962. I have a newspaper clipping.

https://www.weather.gov/safety/winter-noreaster
“Some well known Nor’easters include the notorious Blizzard of 1888, the “Ash Wednesday” storm of March 1962, the New England Blizzard of February 1978, the March 1993 “Superstorm” and the recent Boston snowstorms of January and February 2015.”

Streetcred
Reply to  Bob boder
January 29, 2022 2:35 pm

Probably read it in a pirate book, hahaha !

Peta of Newark
January 29, 2022 4:34 am

Quote:”there’s no doom in sight

And until climate scientists & warmists get glass windows installed in the sides/backs/fronts/tops of their heads, there never will be.

Last edited 3 months ago by Peta of Newark
Bruce Cobb
January 29, 2022 6:22 am

No, no, no! This is all wrong. What we need to be doing is sucking water out of the air, since water is much more prevalent, and thus is a “dangerous” greenhouse gas. Besides, we know that water kills many many people via floods and such. H2O needs to be declared a “pollutant” by the EPA.
We need to “Stop the Flow of H2O!”.It is Nature’s poison.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
January 29, 2022 6:43 am

Darn. Wrong thread.

fretslider
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
January 29, 2022 6:56 am

Take 5. Bob….

Streetcred
Reply to  fretslider
January 29, 2022 2:37 pm

Take 5 … DAVE ! 😉

Janice Moore
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
January 29, 2022 10:45 am

Happens to the best of us (as your post proves 😊).

Janice Moore
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
January 29, 2022 10:46 am

Excellent comment, by the way. 🙂

fretslider
January 29, 2022 6:52 am

“ No Change in Precipitation in Austria in 140 Years”

You’ll have the hippies for censorship – Young and Mitchell – after you.

Last edited 3 months ago by fretslider
Jay Willis
Reply to  fretslider
January 29, 2022 11:21 am

They’ll voluntarily remove themselves from dimwitted media channels you don’t follow anyhow, it cuts me to the core!

MarkW
January 29, 2022 8:29 am

How far is Austria from the portion of Germany that flooded this past year?

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  MarkW
January 29, 2022 9:01 am

A fair way I think.

Streetcred
Reply to  MarkW
January 29, 2022 2:39 pm

Mountains in between.

Jeff Alberts
January 29, 2022 9:28 am

They really should have averaged Austrian precip with other areas that have gotten more. Then they could show that Austria is rainier too. Simples.

Jay Willis
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
January 29, 2022 11:22 am

Yes, the homogenised numbers show its actually worse than ever.

griff
January 29, 2022 9:31 am

and yet Austria’s glaciers still retreat and its resorts are putting in snow cannons because they can’t rely on the natural stuff.

Mr.
Reply to  griff
January 29, 2022 9:46 am

Is there an example of a glacier anywhere that has never in its existence retreated at all?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  griff
January 29, 2022 10:00 am

Are you saying advancing glaciers would be better?

Reply to  griff
January 29, 2022 10:00 am

Griffter, the Arctic sea ice extent is the greatest in 18 years and Hudson Bay is frozen over…you hate it when that happens…don’tcha?

Janice Moore
Reply to  griff
January 29, 2022 10:53 am

Yeah. They retreat to where they were during Oetzi’s lifetime thousands of years ago….. when it was significantly warmer….

Jay Willis
Reply to  griff
January 29, 2022 11:27 am

They never could rely on natural stuff, we used to ski in slush. 1993 was terrible, they even started trying to promote golf during the coming summer as everybody thought it was over. Not so. They’re getting over 3m of the natural stuff this week!

Alan Royal
Reply to  griff
January 29, 2022 12:21 pm

Where is your mate Nick Stokes to back you up Griif?

Climate believer
Reply to  griff
January 29, 2022 1:35 pm

Do they ever let you out of the basement?

As it happens I know this part of Austria very well. I invite people to make up their own minds about whether “they can’t rely on the natural stuff” by looking for themselves.

https://www.stantonamarlberg.com/en/webcams

20 years ago now scientists found fragments of Pinus cembra (Arolla Pine) and Larix decidua (European Larch) underneath the receding Pasterze Glacier in Austria.

That rather suggests that it was at some point in the past smaller than it is today.

Multi-century glacier fluctuations are a natural part of the Alps history.

Took this picture last September from the pass before you descend into St Anton.

Arlberg pass.jpg
Climate believer
Reply to  Climate believer
January 29, 2022 1:37 pm

oh btw…
(click to enlarge)

St Anton Snow averages.png
Last edited 3 months ago by Climate believer
David S
January 29, 2022 9:57 am

Climate change is causing rainfall to stay the same! Oh No we’re all gonna die!

/sarc

Janice Moore
January 29, 2022 10:51 am

Well, done, Günther Aigner; excellent English pronunciation. Thank you for doing the video in English. MUCH appreciated.

CO2isLife
January 29, 2022 7:44 pm

NASA has been hiding the Australian Data showing no warming.
https://youtu.be/9gqpD5QZm60

CO2isLife
January 29, 2022 7:54 pm

NASA has been hiding the lack of warming in Australia.
https://youtu.be/9gqpD5QZm60

observa
January 30, 2022 3:42 am

Must be fake news as the next BIG THING is water dooming-
The US is losing some of its biggest freshwater reserves (msn.com)

MLCross
January 30, 2022 6:09 am

Precipitation stasis is the worst kind of climate change.

Probably.

goldminor
January 30, 2022 11:50 am
Bindidon
Reply to  goldminor
January 30, 2022 2:58 pm

No wonder, goldminor.

There is no historical data for the place you can select today by using satellite data.

Coldest Greenland records in GHCN daily’s surface station data:

GLW00017607: 1953 12 21 -55.0 (°C of course)

GLW00017607 77.0000 -56.0833 -999.9 ICECAP (1953-1954)

https://www.google.com/maps/place/77%C2%B000'00.0%22N+56%C2%B004'59.9%22W/@77.0000012,-65.0481494,5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x8b563c98b85e2ab6!8m2!3d77!4d-56.0833?hl=en

*
GLW00017615: 1961 3 13 -55.0

GLW00017615 77.1667 -61.1333 305.1 CAMP CENTURY (1960-1965)

https://www.google.com/maps/place/77%C2%B010'00.1%22N+61%C2%B007'59.9%22W/@77.1667012,-79.0629935,1682318m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xd7fde290e683d685!8m2!3d77.1667!4d-61.1333?hl=en

*
All these temperatures were recorded near the coasts.

There are a few inland stations in between, managed by Promice @ DMI, but they lack historical data.

https://promice.org/PromiceDataPortal/api/download/f24019f7-d586-4465-8181-d4965421e6eb/v03/daily

Last edited 3 months ago by Bindidon
goldminor
Reply to  Bindidon
February 5, 2022 4:32 pm

Temps on the 30th of last month dropped to minus 59.7 C. So this is a new record? … https://earth.nullschool.net/#2022/01/30/2200Z/wind/surface/level/overlay=temp/orthographic=-20.88,72.82,1725/loc=-40.051,71.574

JOHN CHISM(@johchi7)
February 4, 2022 8:35 am

The term “Global Warming” implies something occurring on a global scale. The term “Climate Change” replaced “Global Warming” because facts proved that most of the “Globe” was not “Warming” but short-term Climate in some areas were “Changing” but, these “Climate Changes” are attributed to localized urban sprawl and farming advancement changing temperatures in those areas. You cannot have “Global Warming” nor “Global Climate Change” unless warming or temperatures are changing everywhere higher or lower than occurred in the past as being unprecedented. You would need sustainable temperatures higher than in the Holocene Climate Optimum or sustainably lower than The Little Ice Age for longer over an extended period of time for “Climate Change” to be real.

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