The Snow Hits the Fan on Saturday: Global Warming Alarmism to Follow

From Dr. Roy Spencer’s Blog

January 27th, 2022 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.

The various weather forecast models are coming closer to a consensus: During Friday night through Saturday night, New England and coastal portions of the mid-Atlantic states are going to experience an historic snowstorm.

For eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island it looks like up to 3 feet of snow are possible with wind gusts of 50 to 60 mph. Here are the forecast snow totals from three weather forecast models: ECMWF, Canadian, and the high-resolution NAM. The GFS model (not shown) is still wanting to take everything farther offshore (all images courtesy of WeatherBell.com):

Now, we all know that global warming was going to make snow a thing of the past. But when we continued to experience snowstorms, that, too, was blamed on global warming. Global warming theory explains every outcome, apparently.

And the recent cold in the NE U.S…. if it happened to be a warm winter, that would be due to global warming. But unusual cold is also due to global warming, since it apparently causes sinister waviness in the jet stream.

So, beginning Saturday and into Sunday, brace yourselves, because global warming hysteria is coming.

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Tom Halla
January 28, 2022 10:04 am

The St Valentines storm in Texas last February was blamed on global warming as well.

John Tillman
Reply to  Tom Halla
January 28, 2022 10:30 am

As Dr. Spencer noted, a warmer Arctic is blamed for the dreaded wavy jet stream. Yet Arctic sea ice has only been higher on yesterday’s date once since and including 2005. That was in 2009.

Nor’easters were apparently unknown before 2022. Just an accident that foul weather gear bears that name.

Last edited 3 months ago by John Tillman
James Schrumpf
Reply to  John Tillman
January 28, 2022 12:33 pm

I remember a warm, sunny day in central Maryland in a March back in the late 1990s — even hit 80F and we all thought “Oh boy, spring’s on the way!”

Something was on the way, all right. A week or so later a nor’easter blew through and we had 30″ (0.75m) of snow on the ground.

We call that “winter.”

lee riffee
Reply to  James Schrumpf
January 28, 2022 1:17 pm

Yes, I remember that one….it was either right before or right after St. Patrick’s day….I’m going to say right after. And I also recall that a couple days after the storm, it got back up into the 60’s for a few days and the whole lot of it melted away quite rapidly. The building I was working in had a bad roof and I must have spent almost a whole workday lugging a half a dozen buckets back and forth to the toilet to keep the shop from flooding.
Some people around here say “if you don’t like the weather, just wait a day or two, and it will change”!

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
January 28, 2022 4:38 pm

Dyslexic typing, Iguana.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  John Tillman
January 29, 2022 11:15 am

Get a different iguana typist.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  John Tillman
January 29, 2022 3:42 am

I forgot about the Iguanas. Yes, it’s cold enough for them to fall out of the trees. It will warm back up pretty soon and they will be fine.

Richard Page
Reply to  John Tillman
January 28, 2022 1:12 pm

What? Sou’westers?

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Richard Page
January 28, 2022 5:32 pm

Mae westers

Curious George(@moudryj)
Reply to  Richard Page
January 29, 2022 8:00 am

Anything that Greta does not remember is unprecedented.

Reply to  John Tillman
January 28, 2022 1:18 pm

Thank you John Tillman. You wrote:
“Arctic sea ice has only been higher on yesterday’s date once since and including 2005. That was in 2009.”
 
And 2009 was during the last solar minimum at the end of SC23 and beginning of SC24. Not a coincidence.
I used the cold events of 2008+ at the last solar minimum to accurately predict the current global cooling period. SC24 is much weaker than SC23 so average temperatures and excursions toward the equator of the polar vortices should be colder and more dangerous.
 
Cold weather kills 20 times as many people as hot weather.
_______________________
 
More global warming…
 
SEA FREEZES IN GREECE IN “ONCE IN A LIFETIME PHENOMENON”; WITH FORECASTS OF A CONTINENT-SPANNING ARCTIC BLAST, U.S. NAT-GAS FUTURES POST BIGGEST ONE-DAY GAIN ON RECORD; + AS THE COVID NARRATIVE CRUMBLES…
January 28, 2022 Cap Allon
This is a time to be positive and hopeful, but also ruthless — we mustn’t let those that have failed us so spectacularly dictate what happens next. They blew it.

Last edited 3 months ago by Allan MacRae
iflyjetzzz
Reply to  Allan MacRae
January 28, 2022 9:45 pm

I made a lot of money this week on my Natural Gas ETF. I sold it going into the weekend, as I’d rather book a nice profit than watch it evaporate should the weather start to warm.

meiggs
Reply to  Allan MacRae
January 29, 2022 5:32 am

And how exactly do the producers (minority) stop the [tax] consuming (majority)? The last election clearly demonstrated that the dictators rule and will continue to rule…yes the CAGW noise was not working and they knew a cooler weather cycle was coming and the USA was getting out of hand with a leader that actually represented the USA….so we got TV19…clearly demonstrating that the unelected MSM rules…so, how do you prevent the failures from continuing to dictate how we live and work?????

tommyboy
January 28, 2022 10:05 am

OMG!!!!
It’s worse than we thought!!!!!!!!!!!!

2hotel9
January 28, 2022 10:06 am

Well, Doc, the globall warmining has been piling up outside my place here in western PA for a while! And those sub-freezing globall warmining temps are getting quite tiresome. 😉

John Tillman
Reply to  2hotel9
January 28, 2022 10:26 am

The bridge collapse in Pittsburgh right before Bribem arrived probably also resulted from global warming.

In real science, an hypothesis which explains everything explains nothing.

CACA accounts for flood, drought, fire, cold, warmth, ice, snow, cyclones, tornadoes, stillness and anything else bad which happens. And whatever occurs, it’s our fault.

2hotel9
Reply to  John Tillman
January 28, 2022 10:42 am

That bridge has needed replaced for several decades, money appropriated for it and still never done. Actually have people opposing replacing it because it is “historic”. Well, they got no choice now.

Reply to  2hotel9
January 28, 2022 11:42 am

Interesting design, that bridge. Here’s a view from below:

https://bridgehunter.com/pa/allegheny/bh96087/

James Schrumpf
Reply to  2hotel9
January 28, 2022 12:35 pm

Are you from the ‘burgh? Because I’m from Wheeling, and that “needed replaced” is something I haven’t heard since I lived out that way.

Reply to  James Schrumpf
January 28, 2022 12:49 pm

The “Good/Fair/Poor Condition” rating was: Poor.

https://bridgereports.com/1456104

2hotel9
Reply to  James Schrumpf
January 29, 2022 4:41 am

I live in north Butler county. Have worked in the area of that particular bridge in the past. There are several in Pittsburgh which PennDot has told city need extensive work/replacement and the scumbag Democrat assholes have refused to do it. And yet they jump in front of cameras and cry about all the work needs done on bridges in city. They piss away money on bike lanes and “beautifying” downtown and gender equity horseshit. All the while streets and bridges are decrepit.

czechlist
Reply to  2hotel9
January 28, 2022 5:10 pm

And, to my knowledge, the bridge is not associated with an interstate nor US highway. Therefore it is a state and local issue -But the media will make it a federal infrastructure problem requiring federal taxpayer $$

2hotel9
Reply to  czechlist
January 29, 2022 4:43 am

Yep, none of Fuax Joe’s bloviating will do a damned thing to fix anything, anywhere, at any time.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  John Tillman
January 28, 2022 12:08 pm

I thinkHillary did it, just a bit to soon.

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kenji
Reply to  John Tillman
January 28, 2022 12:36 pm

Just a reminder … “Bidinh infrastructure” = 10,000 new CAGW bureaucrats filing reports about the “climate cost” to replace automobile bridges. As a result, no bridges will get rebuilt.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  kenji
January 29, 2022 3:50 am

The new Republican congress needs to remove Biden and Harris from office as soon as possible. Biden is a trainwreck and we are the train he’s wrecking.

Worst president Evah! And three more years of this? No, the Republicans are going to have to put a stop to this insanity one way or another. I wonder if Trump has any ideas on this subject?

Alan Robertson
Reply to  2hotel9
January 28, 2022 12:05 pm

That makes sense, because according to warmism, warmer air holds more moisture.
Just because ti’s colder where you are, it was warmer somewhere else.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Alan Robertson
January 28, 2022 3:16 pm

The trick is, to balance that little warmism tidbit with the knowledge that the cold and ice where you are is weather and wherever it was warm enough to add moisture to the atmosphere was globally warmed.
That and the surefire prediction that children won’t know what snow is.
There.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Alan Robertson
January 29, 2022 6:18 am

The only place it was warmer is the place where there is no thermometer so they infill.

2hotel9
Reply to  Alan Robertson
January 29, 2022 9:03 am

Warm is cold and cold is warm and never the twain shall meet! 😉

ResourceGuy
January 28, 2022 10:07 am

I predict deep attribution to global warming and human pollution and oil companies. The “official” comments will come from Boston College and UM Amherst with a nod from Harvard for good measure.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  ResourceGuy
January 28, 2022 1:42 pm

“UM Amherst”

It happens to be in what I like to refer to as “The People’s Republic of the Connecticut Valley” going from Springfield north up the valley to Greenfield. The area is ultra politically correct in all ways imaginable. They hate every form of energy production except wind and solar- as long as the wind and solar aren’t within many miles of THEIR home. They cry that the state’s net zero by ’50 bill isn’t radical enough- but they now fight most solar “farms” in the region because those “farms” will be built on forest land- and they want all forest land to be locked up to do nothing but sequester carbon to save us from the climate monsters. No wind turbines have been built in the area at all- some in the mountains to the west and east- out of site of course. They think putting solar on roofs and parking lots will be sufficient to produce all the energy the state needs- all electric, all transportation, all heat, all industry. They’re nuts. Oh, and they also hate all tree cutting even on private forest land classified by the state as managed forest under the direction of foresters with heavy over-site by the state. During a timber harvest on state land a few years ago- they chained themselves to the log skidders.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 29, 2022 6:20 am

But they do want their furniture to be made out of natural wood, no plastics.

BallBounces
January 28, 2022 10:11 am

Snow is a social construct. It doesn’t actually exist. And, even if it does, it takes a back seat to precipigendertations.

Anon
Reply to  BallBounces
January 28, 2022 11:14 am

I was going to say that Global Warming Snow has a different texture than regular snow but your comment takes the absurdity prize !!! 5 stars !!! 🙂

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Ed Norman
Reply to  BallBounces
January 28, 2022 11:35 am

Well of course, because, don’t you know, snow is white!

philincalifornia
Reply to  Ed Norman
January 28, 2022 12:51 pm

How much more racist could it possibly get ??

Tom in Florida
Reply to  BallBounces
January 28, 2022 12:09 pm

It is just rain that identifies as snow.

Ron Long
January 28, 2022 10:16 am

I think I will get an adult beverage, some chips and dip, and watch the spectacle live on TV. The predicted snow totals are accumulation by direct fall, the predicted strong winds will create blowing snow drifts, so the results might be alarming to the CAGW “our children won’t know what snow is” crowd. Bring it.

Danley Wolfe
Reply to  Ron Long
January 28, 2022 11:32 am

WUWT is now a gossip rag !! Used to focus on scientific discussions … i.e., climate “science” !!

Ron Long
Reply to  Danley Wolfe
January 28, 2022 11:35 am

Danley Wolfe, please do not reply to me with your nonsense, you can say the same thing as a stand-alone comment. thank you. Ron

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Danley Wolfe
January 28, 2022 11:45 am

Any suggestions for a scientific discussion you’d like to see?

Peter W
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
January 28, 2022 3:52 pm

Where is Griff when we need him?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
January 29, 2022 4:04 am

Yes, we are all for scientific discussions.

We also take great pleasure in ridiculing the climate change alarmists for their outrageous “scientific” claims.

Part of science is distinguishing between what is really science and what is really BS (bad science). In the process, some get ridiculed.

There’s no law that says discussing science can’t be fun. I get a lot of enjoyment reading all the hilarious comments at WUWT. And I learn things in the process.

Jimf
Reply to  Danley Wolfe
January 28, 2022 1:00 pm

If you want a scientific discussion, stay away the clowns who blame more snow and less snow, more rain and less rain on global warming

Jimf
Reply to  Jimf
January 28, 2022 1:01 pm

“Stay away from”

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Danley Wolfe
January 28, 2022 1:28 pm

Obama officially declared debate ended, as a follow-up to Gore’s unofficial claim.

Art-Kingston
Reply to  Ron Long
January 28, 2022 11:49 am

Actually there will be 2 spectacles to watch. Don’t forget the truckers arriving in Ottawa from all over Canada to protest their need to now be vaccinated. Should be quite a show.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Art-Kingston
January 29, 2022 4:12 am

How stupid are our leaders? Canada is one of the biggest trading partners with the United States, and our leadership is stifling this trade because of their desire to impose their will on the people by requiring covid vaccinations.

If trade is cutoff for any length of time between Canada and the U.S., there will be severe economic repercussions for all of us.

Idiocracy and power-hungry come to mind. And sheer stupidity.

The U.S. got hoodwinked into having a failed leader like Biden. What happened to Canada? How can you keep electing that fool?

Joao Martins
Reply to  Ron Long
January 28, 2022 12:57 pm

Wait and see!

I wonder if they will start to advertise: “Bring your children! Last chance for them to see snow!”

Duane
Reply to  Ron Long
January 28, 2022 5:57 pm

Who woulda ever imagined … snowstorms in winter in the temperate zone?

Unbelievable!!! Gotta be due to global warming!

Rud Istvan
January 28, 2022 10:18 am

Only 3 feet! The Blizzard of 1978 hit just a week before we were to move to Munich for five years. Dumped 4 feet, with drifts to 15 feet. Of course, that was before global warming—which 3 feet now ‘just proves’/s. Shut Boston down completely for a week. Since we had run the pantry down anticipated the move to Europe, I had to xCty ski with my camping backpack to a grocery store for food supplies. They were only open because the staff had gotten snowed in waiting for regular hour closure.

Robert Cherba
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 28, 2022 10:27 am

Ah yes, I remember it well. I was marooned in a Holiday Inn in Benton Harbor, MI, on the shore of Lake Michigan for several days. Huge drifts; nothing moving; no power. The Inn ran low on food, but the liquor supply held up pretty well. It was several days before the state highway along the lakeshore and the interstate were cleared so I could go home — to be faced by about 30 inches of snow in my driveway. It was a fun time!

Reply to  Robert Cherba
January 28, 2022 10:59 am

Heh. I was down the road a bit staying at “Chalet on the Lakes” in ’78 south of St. Joe right on Lk Michigan … the snow was so tightly packed (as it came with wind off the lake) that chains on a car were useless …

Curious George(@moudryj)
Reply to  Robert Cherba
January 29, 2022 8:08 am

That was before Greta was born, so it did not happen.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 28, 2022 11:45 am

I remember this. I was at college. It was the first time in the 100+ years of Stevens that they had shut down the campus.

Scissor
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
January 28, 2022 4:31 pm

I remember we “borrowed” a few trays from the cafeteria and used the as sleds.

Rob_Dawg
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 28, 2022 12:19 pm

I was on one of the first buses into Boston (from Springfield) 1978.

https://www.yahoo.com/now/blizzard-could-biggest-snowstorm-ever-213245381.html

The Mass Pike was one lane and from Newton the drifts were as high as the Greyhound’s windows. The city used the reflecting pond at the Christian Science complex on Huntington to pile snow. We made a giant Buddha snow sculpture.

garboard
Reply to  Rob_Dawg
January 28, 2022 7:23 pm

i was on an offshore island in down east maine watching from the lee of a barn as waves driven by 100mph winds with a mile or two fetch over open water dismantled a decades old pier until the multi ton cribbing supporting the structure was finally washed away en masse . surreal .

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Rob_Dawg
February 8, 2022 10:35 am

Funny how that “Top 4” list in your link is all in the time line of the horror of global warming. Why, that might make you think the whole global warming schtick was a bunch of hooey or some such.

Last edited 3 months ago by D. J. Hawkins
James Schrumpf
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 28, 2022 12:41 pm

I remember that snowstorm well. I was a student at West Virginia University, and classes did not shut down. We were told the Morgantown PRT (Personal Rapid Transit) system was the only public transportation working in the East, because it ran on an elevated concrete track, heated by steam pipes running through it, and the three-rail electrical conductors on the side of the track were also heated. Don’t know if it was true or not, but with all that snow it might have been.

RobR
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 28, 2022 1:35 pm

Yup. I nearly died in that one. They waited too long to release us from school in Warwick RI. The bus kept getting stuck on hills and we would get out and push it to get it going.

Eventually we could go no further and the bus driver made the tough decision to let us go. I walked about six- miles with crappy shoes and a jacket for winter gear.

By the time I made it to my friend’s house I was shaking uncontrollably and my hair was frozen over. On positive note, they fed me brandy to warm up.

Sara
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 28, 2022 3:40 pm

I remember that storm. I was living out in the burbs west of Chitown, and got snowed in. Could NOT find my car and had to wait until the plows came along to dig it out. That little episode of being a suburbanite sent me back into Chitown until 2005, when I moved out to the north burbs and got a blizzard that winter, which blocked my front door with 4 feet of snow. I have photos of that drift. Neighbor had to dig me out, laughing all the while.

And yet this winter, we are having the winterized version of a drought, meaning not a lot of snow, very cold and dry and NWS weather forecasts change by the hour.

garboard
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 28, 2022 7:07 pm

lowest pressure ever recorded in Mane

ResourceGuy
January 28, 2022 10:21 am

I hope it hits hardest at one of Ed Markey’s homes. But that will just make more work for his servants and grounds keepers.

John Garrett
Reply to  ResourceGuy
January 28, 2022 10:48 am

Sheldon Whitehouse and Pocahontas are deserving recipients, as well.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  John Garrett
January 28, 2022 1:13 pm

I pray to Gaia that they get an extra foot of snow to cave in the roof there.

Independent
Reply to  ResourceGuy
January 28, 2022 9:43 pm

He is the least intelligent member of the Senate (I know, that’s saying something). Perhaps he’ll get snowed in for a week. Has Al Gore been planning a visit to Boston or something?

Rick C
January 28, 2022 10:24 am

“A theory that explains everything explains nothing.”

— Karl Popper

Reply to  Rick C
January 28, 2022 10:54 am

Yes, unless, of course, you are two or three …

IanE
Reply to  Rick C
January 28, 2022 11:15 am

Nah: surely that would be the Gretest (sic!) theory ever!

Reply to  Rick C
January 28, 2022 2:11 pm

That is, of course, a powerful insight. But not Popper’s. Trivia from Wikiquote:

“A theory that explains everything, explains nothing.”

In an address of 13 October 1896, published in Proceedings of the Liverpool Geological Society, Volumes 8-9 (1900), p. 28Thomas Mellard Reade attributed this statement to John Playfair, citing it to his Illustrations of the Huttonian Theory of the Earth (1802); it has not yet been located in the volumes of that work presently available online, and was perhaps a summation or paraphrase, as Reade’s statement reads:

“It was well observed by Playfair, some 90 years ago, that ‘a theory that explains everything explains nothing.’”

Rick C
Reply to  Larry
January 28, 2022 7:05 pm

Thanks for the correction. That’s what I get for looking for attribution on Google. It does seem that Popper popularized the expression in “The Falsification Principle” where he said a theory that cannot be falsified is not science.

Reply to  Rick C
January 28, 2022 7:17 pm

Rick,

I agree! The climate policy debate would have taken a different and more productive course if guided by the insights of Popper (and Thomas Kuhn):

https://fabiusmaximus.com/2016/01/28/karl-popper-advise-about-climate-science-92631/

ResourceGuy
January 28, 2022 10:34 am

Remember to tunnel to the front door like the Finlanders do in the UP.

ResourceGuy
January 28, 2022 10:36 am

Now if they would just halt all flights to the Bahamas and Bermuda, there would be some “climate” justice.

Reply to  ResourceGuy
January 28, 2022 10:56 am

-and (say its name!) FLOR-I-DUH!

(Ask AOC about the non-mask room-rates!)

Len Werner
January 28, 2022 10:51 am

We should not forget that ‘just yesterday’, Jordan Peterson was ridiculed for bringing up the ‘everything’ notion of Climate Change. As this unfolds, let’s watch who invites ridicule.

My expectation is that no Mann will be able to help himself; they will all jump the wagon on which the band plays, with instruments as cacophonous as climate models. Peterson got it right; he really does understand exactly what is going on here, not from understanding climate science but from understanding climate scientists.

Peta of Newark
Reply to  Len Werner
January 28, 2022 12:44 pm

So did Mr Trump.
It is a skill we’ve all got, what’s usually called ‘First Impressions’
i.e. We have a ‘6th sense’ of when someone is lying to us, of when they’re not who they say they are or when they’re pontificating on a subject on which they are clueless

In previous times of our history, we’d tell those exactly that then walk away and avoid them for ever more
But doing so requires ‘guts’ and self confidence – NOT the ‘guts’ and self confidence that you find in a whiskey glass. Political Correctness is now the order of the day

Mr Trump called them out, that they were hoaxers and running a scam – based on exactly that = Body Language. He didn’t know any Climate Science and pretending to do so would have ‘let the scammers win

Unfortunately for him in the position he was in (also bang over the target) there was no way to escape the flak but even worse: Nobody Came To His Defence

Skeptics and crocodile feeders: Hang Your Heads in Shame

Although, from the incredible foul-up GoJo Brando’ handlers are making of everything, you’ll get another shot at defending the man – don’t mess up next time OK?
Let’s put this Junk Science, Jackanory Story and Energy Crisis Nightmare completely to bed

PS I was surfing Wunderground earlier today – is Romania full of snow, also Jerusalem and somewhere else unusual. the name I forget

January 28, 2022 10:53 am

SNOW – MAGEDDON

Say its name …

Climate believer
January 28, 2022 11:08 am

The Huffington Post would just have to modify the date slightly from 2015 but they’ve already got their alarmist piece written:

Is Climate Change To Blame For The Northeast Snow Storm?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/climate-change-northeast-snow_n_6549996

but then other “scientists” say this:

“New research indicates that snow cover across the U.S. Northeast is declining as a result of climate change, and that by 2100 as much as 59 percent of the region will not accumulate any snow.”

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/abbd00#erlabbd00s5

… settled science as ever.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Climate believer
January 29, 2022 4:25 am

““New research indicates that snow cover across the U.S. Northeast is declining as a result of climate change, and that by 2100 as much as 59 percent of the region will not accumulate any snow.””

These climate change alarmists are still working under the assumption that temperatures will continue to go higher.

If temperatures don’t go higher, then you can throw their study in the trash can.

Currently, temperatures have cooled by 0.5C since 2016.

Alarmist climate change science is made up of unsubstantiated assumptions and nothing else.

HotScot
January 28, 2022 11:18 am

There is only one solution to global warming.

Communism.

Guaranteed……………..

Alasdair
Reply to  HotScot
January 28, 2022 1:26 pm

Yes indeed. Those long in the tooth can recognise this having experienced the ghastly tricks the Communists get up to; but the younger generations need to learn and it takes time.
Explaining it is tedious and merely invites a pile of ad Hom. and derogatory comments.
Sadly we are in for a rough time when the consequences start to bite and the population starts to react.

Briefly the UN and it’s acolytes such as the IPCC have been infiltrated over the years by leftwing/marxist covert activists who have successfully converted the science into a political message with the agenda to control the global levers of power through control of energy.

THAT, however, will be rigorously attacked as a Rightwing Conspiracy Theory put out by swivel-eyed guys encouraged by the fossil fuel industry.

I am glad that I am sufficiently long in the tooth not to get involved too much in the ensuing carnage.

Reply to  Alasdair
January 28, 2022 3:29 pm

And what I don’t understand is: “by leftwing/marxist covert activists.” Why would anyone buy into it and what do they get from it? I lived in Moscow for a year after the coup (working with addictions) and saw the damage. I saw how collectivism warped thinking and injured children and drove the quality of manufactured goods so low they weren’t worth buying…I could go on for HOURS about how inefficient and spirit robbing collectivism is–so who wants that??? Who are these people and do they udnerstand what they are advocating for?

It makes me want to cry. I remember the little girl who was so excited to meet me, an American. She was about 11. Lenna proudly showed off her barbie doll to me. I asked, “Where’s the head?” and she smiled and answered, “I’m letting my best friend play with it–we share the doll.” The girl’s father is a psychologist and her mother was a teacher. This was NOT an anomaly–this is collectivism.

I wonder what she thinks of America today.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Shelly M
January 29, 2022 4:32 am

Communism has caused a lot of misery in the world. And it’s not done yet.

Most people just want to live their lives with as little interference as possible.

Sadly, communism/authoritarianism wants to direct every aspect of a person’s life, and not for the benefit of the person, but for the benefit of the power elite.

We are in a fight for our personal freedoms. They can be taken away if we are not careful.

fretslider
January 28, 2022 11:32 am

Look it’s snow joke….

There’s a global shortage of Viner crystals

marlene
January 28, 2022 11:35 am

LOL – can’t make this up. Not like the activists do.

pochas94
January 28, 2022 12:10 pm

Global Warming is about to transition from fearsome to hilarious.

Tom in Florida
January 28, 2022 12:12 pm

Solar panels, wind mills, and EVs. What could go wrong with a storm like this

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Tom in Florida
January 28, 2022 1:51 pm

big solar farm behind my house in central Mass. – I hope the snow is deep and I’ll photograph it and show here- then get out my snowshoes- a great sport

yirgach
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 28, 2022 3:44 pm

You should have a good chance of a great picture. I live a bit NW of you in SE VT, just in the less blue zone. Was actually hoping for moar!

At any rate it’s going to be hard to tell how much actually fell as the winds will move it all over the place. And then I have to move it someplace else…

goldminor
Reply to  Tom in Florida
January 28, 2022 2:14 pm

Nothing that your tax dollars can’t fix.

Kevin McNeill
January 28, 2022 12:20 pm

A theory that explains everything, explains nothing. (can’t remember who said this, some days I can’t remember what I had for breakfast)

Notanacademic
Reply to  Kevin McNeill
January 28, 2022 12:52 pm

You are not alone, I know your pain.

Reply to  Kevin McNeill
January 28, 2022 2:10 pm

From Wikiquote:

“A theory that explains everything, explains nothing.”

In an address of 13 October 1896, published in Proceedings of the Liverpool Geological Society, Volumes 8-9 (1900), p. 28Thomas Mellard Reade attributed this statement to John Playfair, citing it to his Illustrations of the Huttonian Theory of the Earth (1802); it has not yet been located in the volumes of that work presently available online, and was perhaps a summation or paraphrase, as Reade’s statement reads:

“It was well observed by Playfair, some 90 years ago, that ‘a theory that explains everything explains nothing.’”

Ireneusz Palmowski
January 28, 2022 12:28 pm

Such stratospheric ozone will invade the eastern US and bring freezing temperatures even across Florida.comment image

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
January 28, 2022 12:30 pm

Sorry.comment image

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
January 28, 2022 12:35 pm

Some believe that stratosphere is too thin to rule the weather. However, during the winter season, the troposphere is the tail and the stratosphere is the dog.
http://ds.data.jma.go.jp/tcc/tcc/products/clisys/STRAT/gif/zu_nh.gif

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Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
January 28, 2022 12:42 pm

The distribution of ozone in the lower stratosphere at high latitudes gives the pattern of circulation in the upper troposphere.comment image

AndyHce
January 28, 2022 12:58 pm

I’ve been trying to get an answer to this for awhile now, which I repeat below. No one who purports to know anything about weather forecasting (such as Anthony Watts or Cliff Mass) has so far made any reply. I would really appreciate a factual answer.

This article claims that weather forecast models are now being used to show the strong relationship (attribution) between nasty fossil fuels and extreme weather. This is accomplished by running a weather forecast model multiple over a real weather event, each run using different concentrations of atmospheric CO2.

https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-how-weather-forecasts-can-spark-a-new-kind-of-extreme-event-attribution

Are atmospheric CO2 concentrations part of REAL weather forecast models? If so, why?

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Rud Istvan
Reply to  AndyHce
January 28, 2022 2:17 pm

Since I studied both weather and climate models for ebook Blowing Smoke and several previous guest posts about them here, the answer is weather models do not include CO2 as an input. Climate models do. When Cliff Mass runs his regional Pacific Northwest weather model to look at possible regional ‘climate change’ impacts, what he does is regional weather model runs at slightly increasing start temperatures ‘pretend caused’ by more CO2.

AndyHce
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 28, 2022 2:53 pm

That is my expectation, but not from any direct knowledge. CO2 concentration as a forecast factor doesn’t make sense to my limited understanding.

If CO2 concentration did effect temperature, H2O concentration, atmospheric pressure, or any other weather variable, its effect would already be incorporated into those measurements, which are inputs. Adding CO2 concentration itself, which doesn’t change on weather forecast time scales, would seem to be some kind of duplicate entry.

AndyHce
January 28, 2022 1:04 pm

Frequently, I attempt to correct something in a post I’ve just made, such as a spelling error I didn’t see until it posted. Sometime it works but very often the Edit screen comes up blank. I can’t see what I entered and I can’t enter anything new into the screen. Is there a way to make the edit function work?

Also, sometimes there are buttons for changing text features, such as bold, italics, quote, etc.
Other times, fairly often, such as here and now, all are absent. Why is that?

RickWill
January 28, 2022 1:07 pm

The current cycle of glaciation started 400 years ago; the last time perihelion occurred before the austral summer solstice.

Boreal summers are getting more sunlight. Under 1w/sq.m more than 400 years ago but heading for 21W/sq.m more in 10,000 years. The flip side is that boreal winters are getting less sunlight. That means more boreal winter latent heat transfer from oceans to land and it will arrive as snow, which will gradually accumulate over the coming millennia.

Real climate change is always occurring and it is not linked to CO2.

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Chris Hanley
January 28, 2022 1:12 pm

Whatever supposed long-term effects the increasing CO2 concentration is having on the global climate, so far snow cover is not one of them.

Bruce Cobb
January 28, 2022 1:21 pm

Yes, we are in for some extreme climate hysteria.
Batten down the hatches.
Whatever that means.

John Garrett
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
January 28, 2022 1:52 pm

…that’s sailor talk for “Get ready for a storm.”

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Ireneusz Palmowski
January 28, 2022 1:23 pm

The GCW/FMI SWE Tracker illustrates the current winter records for 2014/2015, relative to the long-term mean and variability of the snow water equivalent for the Northern Hemisphere (±1 standard deviation calculated for 1982-2012), excluding mountains. The historical SWE record is based on the time series of measurements by two different space-borne passive microwave sensors. The current data combines these satellite measurements with groundbased weather station records in a data assimilation scheme. Updated daily by GlobSnow, a Global Cryosphere Watch initiative, funded by the European Space Agency and coordinated by the Finnish Meteorological Institute.
http://globalcryospherewatch.org/state_of_cryo/snow/fmi_swe_tracker.jpg

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Bruce Cobb
January 28, 2022 1:33 pm

At least it will be light, fluffy stuff – easy to plow, snowblow, and shovel, and won’t stick to tree branches, making them susceptible to breaking and bringing down power lines. Even my 24 year old snowblower should be able to handle it. I hope. We’re supposed to get about 12″ here. But there will be drifts. Sunday should be fun.

H.R.
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
January 28, 2022 8:19 pm

All we’re getting is falling iguanas, Bruce.

The good news is, I don’t think the wind causes them to drift. Could you imagine 15′ iguana drifts? Traffic would likely be affected.

Ireneusz Palmowski
January 28, 2022 1:38 pm

Arctic air is reaching the southeastern US. It will be over Alabama overnight.
http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/mtpw2/webAnims/tpw_nrl_colors/namer/mimictpw_namer_latest.gif

goldminor
Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
January 28, 2022 2:09 pm

The Himalayas are having an extra cold winter this year. That cold is also pushing into China over the last several weeks. … https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=temp/orthographic=115.52,29.00,980/loc=109.422,27.952

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
January 28, 2022 2:21 pm

Yes. Here on the beach in Fort Lauderdale forecast is 40F—a falling green iguana night. A bit further north and inland (northeast side of Lake Okeechobee) they are forecasting frost, so the vast citrus groves in Indian River county are activating their frost prevention systems.

H.R.
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 29, 2022 5:52 am

Pro tip: Don’t park under trees.
😉

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 29, 2022 11:57 am

I wonder if such temperatures would make it safer to hunt Burmese pythons?

Dave(@daveandrews723)
January 28, 2022 1:48 pm

CO2, the magic molecule, explans everything now.

John Garrett
January 28, 2022 1:51 pm

…and so it begins:

(Bloomberg) Bomb Cyclone Threatens to Wallop NYC, Boston With Heavy Snow

21 minutes ago

Blame Warming Atlantic for the ‘Snow Bomb’ Roaring Toward NYC

Amac
January 28, 2022 2:29 pm

Lot of snow in Turkey and Greece this week.

observa
January 28, 2022 2:36 pm

It’s rivers of clouds in South Australia and the outback-

South Australia makes major emergency declaration over storm damage and flooding (msn.com)

Rail repairs could take weeks after outback flooding, Stuart Highway remains closed – ABC News

In arid areas it doesn’t take much for rain to hammer the clay platelets and seal them for the runoff to begin in earnest. As for those rail lines washing away the engineers do their technical best to allow for Mother Nature with culverts and bridges but with thousands of kms and extreme localised rainfall a possibility anywhere anytime you have to accept a repair system at the ready.

They did reroute the Ghan railway line upon upgrade from its original low lying path following the Afghan cameleers route to higher ground as you can see-
The Ghan – Wikipedia
So the common washaways and interruption are a rarity now but just a reminder we don’t control the weather.

Ack
January 28, 2022 3:40 pm

It will be a balmy mid 50s this weekend on the central plains

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Ack
January 29, 2022 4:45 am

Yes, the central U.S. will have a few nice days coming up, but then about Thursday we will get the next batch of cold air. This is the coldest part of the year. I’m already looking at the garden catalogs. Spring is just around the corner.

leitmotif
January 28, 2022 4:01 pm

There’s no business like snow business.

  • Eskimo Ethel Merman
Michael in Dublin
January 28, 2022 4:37 pm

If every weather condition is ascribed to global warming, then in reality no weather condition can be ascribed to global warming.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
January 29, 2022 4:51 am

The only problem for the alarmists is the extreme weather they are claiming is caused by CO2 is not unprecedented. Similar severe weather has occurred in the past, when CO2 was not a major factor.

The alarmists claim CO2 will cause unprecedented extreme weather, but we don’t see any of that. The alarmists are seeing things which don’t exist. They are seeing what they want to see, not what is there. This is the way religious zealots look at the world, blind to everything but one view of reality. Evidence or lack thereof, will not shake this kind of belief.

saveenergy
January 28, 2022 5:11 pm

All this white stuff isn’t snow (Viner & Gore stopped that yrs ago).

Don’t you realise the world is on fire … so it must be ash !!!
Griff will confirm

Walter
January 28, 2022 5:19 pm

I’m having trouble understanding something. This graph (the annual growth rate of CO2) https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/gr.html strongly correlated with the satellite temperature record https://images.remss.com/msu/msu_time_series.html

I feel like I am missing something here and maybe I’m stupid but to me it looks like CO2 does correlate with satellite temperature.

Sweet Old Bob
Reply to  Walter
January 28, 2022 6:12 pm

Until it doesn’t ……
check 1940s and 1970s ….. yes no satellites in 40s . but temp records exist …

😉

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Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Walter
January 28, 2022 11:44 pm

CO2 correlates with temperature from 1979 to 1998, the only time in history

1950 to 1979 it was exactly negative

1925 to 1940 CO2 was flat but temps were higher than today

Millions of years ago CO2 was 5x today but cold

So you can’t trust your lying eyes if you only look at a fraction of the record

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Walter
January 29, 2022 5:24 am

“I feel like I am missing something here and maybe I’m stupid but to me it looks like CO2 does correlate with satellite temperature.”

What you are missing is that early on, those in charge of forming a global temperature profile deliberately distorted the temperature profile of the world to correspond with the rise of CO2 in the atmosphere, so it is no surprise that the global temperature profile looks very similar to the global CO2 profile. It was done deliberately to sell the Human-caused Climate Change narrative.

The official global surface temperature record is generated within a computer.

If you look at historic regional, unmodified temperature records, from all around the world, you will see that they show a completely different temperature profile than does the computer-generated global temperature record.

The regional temperatures were recorded by human beings down through the years, and their records depart radically from the computer-generated global temperature charts.

One of these temperature profiles is wrong. Is it the one that humans wrote down or is it the computer-generated profile? See the Climategate emails for why the computer-generated temperature profile is not fit for purpose. And there are several good books that touch on the subject, too, if you are interested.

Below is a NASA link to the regional U.S. surface temperature chart (Hansen 1999) and along side it is a bastardized, instrument-era Hockey Stick chart.

https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research//briefs/1999_hansen_07/

As you can see, the U.S. chart has a profile that warms for a few decades and then cools for a few decades and then warms again for a few decades, within narrow bands, and you can see that the warmest temperatures in the U.S. were back in the 1930’s, not today, as the alarmist claim.

The U.S. chart and all other regional charts from around the world have similar temperature profiles and they show that it was just as warm in the Early Twentieth Century as it is today, which means that CO2 has had little to do with temperatures since it was just as warm in the 1930’s, but with much less CO2 in the air then.

The bogus, bastardized, instrument-era Hockey Stick chart was mannipulated to cool the 1930’s into insignificance in order to enable the promoters of Human-caused Climate Change to claim that today is the warmest period in 1,000 years and humans are causing this warming with their CO2 output.

The bogus Hockey Stick is a Big Lie used to sell a CO2 crisis. It is the ONLY thing the alarmist have to show as “evidence” and it is entirely made up in their computers, and in their minds, and does not represent reality.

The U.S. regional chart and similar ones from around the world represent reality.

The Keepers of the Temperatuire Data have been lying to us for years. Note Hansen’s lame explanation for why the U.S. chart and the bogus Hockey Stick chart look so different. It’s in the text on the webpage.

And ask yourself, why it is that temperatures are currently cooling when humans are pumping more and more CO2 into the atmosphere/ Temperatures are currently 0.5C cooler than the highpoint of the satellite era. CO2 is increasing yet temperatures are cooling. The alarmists have some explaning to do.

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Note that the satellite era started in 1979, which was the coolest time since the 1910’s, so the warming from 1979 to today is to be expected, and the next thing to expect, going by history, is a couple of decades of cooling from this point.

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Walter
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 29, 2022 8:28 am

Has the theory that a cooling effect is negating global warming gained any traction? That could be possible too no?

Walter
Reply to  Walter
January 29, 2022 8:28 am

*Anthropogenic global warming*

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 29, 2022 9:50 am

It would make a great national climate intelligence test.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Walter
January 29, 2022 12:17 pm

You asked this question on on Middleton’s thread and this thread, and got some reasonable answers. Are you just trolling, or is there something specific that is troubling you?

Correlation does not establish causation.

Walter
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
January 29, 2022 12:47 pm

all they did was send a stupid meme questioning my intelligence and I didn’t get any good answer. I’m troubled by not knowing the whole truth and I don’t know who to believe so I have to make an independent observation for myself so I can rest my uncertainty. I am sorry for the constant questions but that’s how much I care about the environment

paul courtney
Reply to  Walter
January 29, 2022 4:39 pm

Mr. Walter: Your concern is noted. Sorry if we get short with you, but your questions have been answered, for anyone reading here. Caring so much for the environment, you should consider some quiet reading and avoid showing ignorance. That way, you can avoid making enviros look bad.

TonyG
Reply to  paul courtney
January 31, 2022 10:37 am

paul, if Walter is new he may not have seen those answers. We need to take that into account. I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect newcomers to go back through all the archives to find their answers.

As to the previous thread and replies, I don’t recall them so I can’t comment on those responses.

rocdoctom
January 28, 2022 6:40 pm

How to deal with snow:

  1. 1” to 5″”, a shovel will do
  2. 5″ to 15″, a small snowblower will do
  3. If it is deeper than the front of the big snowblower then you need a tractor with a snowblower and a blade.
  4. A snowplow on your pickup works for the driveway

From experience growing up in the UP of michigan.

Lowcountry boy
January 28, 2022 8:30 pm

I was in Jerusalem, Israel 2 days ago and observed 4″-6″ of snow fall overnight. It was a beautiful “global warming” event (sarcasm intended)!

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Lowcountry boy
January 28, 2022 11:40 pm

High elevation in the hills
Not uncommon
Spent a week there in mid December 2016
Was amazing

Pat from kerbob
January 28, 2022 11:37 pm

Dr Roy, don’t join the chorus by using terms like “historic”.

It’s a northeaster, it’s a big storm
But they happen

Using words like that is what Griff does every day
Historic
Extreme
Unprecedented

All false tells

Pat from kerbob
January 28, 2022 11:39 pm

And
Like everything else we need a new scary term to denote something sinister and new

Nor’easter is so 1900s

Atlantic winter death bomb cyclone vortex

Something like that

Old Cocky
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
January 29, 2022 12:10 pm

Atlantic winter death bomb cyclone vortex”

Wasn’t she Colossus’s offsider in “Deadpool”?

Steven Kardas
January 29, 2022 5:22 am

All common weather events are now unique and “Historic”.

rah
January 29, 2022 7:26 am

This trucker is just happy he isn’t going east or north on Sunday. I’ve driven in enough of that stuff. A few years ago they sent me into Boston to pick up a load the morning after they had received more snow in 24 hours than any time on record.

That same winter on another trip, brokerage tried to send me down into Connecticut into the teeth of a fast approaching Nor Easter. When I called in and told them that I would go but don’t expect to see me for a couple days because I would be stranded and besides I was sure the shipper would send their people home well before I got there, even if I did make it. They called the shipper and sure enough they said they were shutting down because of the weather.

Another time I was blasting across the I-90 MA turnpike when it was supposedly closed. There was no one out there but I was getting through just fine. When I made it to the place I was to deliver they were working but to dock one had to back up an incline and that had not been plowed. It took me a dozen tries to get into the dock and when I did I hit it pretty hard. There was no choice. If one slowed too much one would slide off to the side.

Before I was on e-logs I trucked out of Kansas City headed to my terminal in Indiana in a blizzard at night. Had to use the rumble strips to be sure I remained on the paved surface. I did not see a salt shaker or plow all that way across Missouri until I got to the St. Louis area. Not even on in Columbia. Took me 14 hours to make a trip that usually takes 8.25.

Many a time while driving in those conditions I have tilted the steering wheel up, then slid the seat up all the way, then opened the window and reached out with my left arm and grabbed the drivers side wiper to pull it away from the windshield so it slaps back and knocks the accumulating ice off the end of it so the wiper blade can again contact the glass. Even with the defroster on 100% heat and fan it can’t keep your blades from accumulating slush that freezes.

One time heading up I-79 in PA heading for Tonawanda, NY (North and NE side of the Buffalo area) the Jumbotron said that the I-90 Throughway was closed at Hamburg going into the Buffalo area due to heavy and fast falling lake effect snow. I diverted down I-86 and then cut north on US 219. My intention was to go north as far as could and then go east and work my way up to come into Tonawanda from the east. I got there and when I backed into the door at the Unifrax facility on Fire Tower road there was not a flake of snow on the ground or in the air. This when 14 miles SE as the crow flies they were in a snow emergency. Lake effect snow is some strange stuff.
This trucker is just happy he isn’t going east or north on Sunday. I’ve driven in enough of that stuff. A few years ago they sent me into Boston to pick up a load the morning after they had received more snow in 24 hours than any time on record.

That same winter on another trip, brokerage tried to send me down into Connecticut into the teeth of a fast approaching Nor Easter. When I called in and told them that I would go but don’t expect to see me for a couple days because I would be stranded and besides I was sure the shipper would send their people home well before I got there, even if I did make it. They called the shipper and sure enough they said they were shutting down because of the weather.

Another time I was blasting across the I-90 MA turnpike when it was supposedly closed. There was no one out there but I was getting through just fine. When I made it to the place I was to deliver they were working but to dock one had to back up an incline and that had not been plowed. It took me a dozen tries to get into the dock and when I did I hit it pretty hard. There was no choice. If one slowed too much one would slide off to the side.

Before I was on e-logs I trucked out of Kansas City headed to my terminal in Indiana in a blizzard at night. Had to use the rumble strips to be sure I remained on the paved surface. I did not see a salt shaker or plow all that way across Missouri until I got to the St. Louis area. Not even on in Columbia. Took me 14 hours to make a trip that usually takes 8.25.

Many a time while driving in those conditions I have tilted the steering wheel up, then slid the seat up all the way, then opened the window and reached out with my left arm and grabbed the drivers side wiper to pull it away from the windshield so it slaps back and knocks the accumulating ice off the end of it so the wiper blade can again contact the glass. Even with the defroster on 100% heat and fan it can’t keep your blades from accumulating slush that freezes.

One time heading up I-79 in PA heading for Tonawanda, NY (North and NE side of the Buffalo area) the Jumbotron said that the I-90 Throughway was closed at Hamburg going into the Buffalo area due to heavy and fast falling lake effect snow. I diverted down I-86 and then cut north on US 219. My intention was to go north as far as could and then go east and work my way up to come into Tonawanda from the east. I got there and when I backed into the door at the Unifrax facility on Fire Tower road there was not a flake of snow on the ground or in the air. This when 14 miles SW as the crow flies they were in a snow emergency. Lake effect snow is some strange stuff.

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rah
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
January 29, 2022 1:24 pm

When I was assigned to a team in Co. A, 3rd Bn., 10th SFG(A) I was a PFC fresh out of the Special Forces Qualification course. I was a medic and the rank for my slot was SSG. The lowest rank on a team is Sgt.

Since I was the ONLY private on a team in the whole Battalion at the time I got stuck with crap details. One of those was going to Bus driving school to become an instructor so that I could train other guys in Bus driving and thus the Battalion would not have to rely on support personnel which may or may not be available to transport teams to training or to an Air Force Base when being deployed.

So when 3rd Bn, did it’s annual winter warfare training I would drive a bus load of us from Camp Ethan Allan to Smugglers Notch for downhill ski training and then back after the training day was done. Of course I was also taking part in the training on top of driving and making sure that the Bus got started during the nights when the temp dropped below zero. Thankfully it had ether start.

So one day on the way back to our billets I was behind a big “V” plow that was throwing a lot of snow. I could not believe it when some moron in VW behind me decided to try and pass us and the plow.

The car disappeared in the solid wall of heavy snow and then reappeared about 30 ft, off the road half buried in the snow. We kept going and everyone on the left side of the bus that saw it was laughing.

H. Fan
Reply to  rah
January 29, 2022 7:17 pm

Thank you for your service. I know that is usually reserved for the military, but people forget (or never even think about) how their food gets on the grocery shelves or how the other products they use daily make it to market. Granted, you are not (typically) getting shot at like the folks in the military, but you are on the road for long hours in sometimes dangerous conditions, away from your family, and doing tough work often for maybe not that much money compared to a desk jockey like myself. I appreciate and respect the job you do… Thank you!

rah
Reply to  H. Fan
January 30, 2022 1:22 am

Thank you. But I think I make pretty good money right now.

My bring home pay this week with a day of OT was $1,377.70.
Last week it was over $1,900.00 because of 2 days OT and a $300.00 fuel bonus.

Add to that the tax break for per diem I get when I file.

My income is well above the mean for the region I live in here in central Indiana and the rumor is they are going to up the pay for us guarantee drivers another $100.00 over our $1,600.00 base salary soon.

My bring home these days is about what my gross pay was pre-covid and pre hyperinflation.

These days about 95% of my runs are for the auto industry. The other 5% are for Nestle’s, hauling milk, cookie dough, pasta, or Boost, which is the Nestle’s version of Ensure.

Ireneusz Palmowski
January 29, 2022 7:47 am

Rather, I would say it won’t be a big snowstorm, but a big freeze in the southeastern US.

John Garrett
January 29, 2022 2:25 pm

Boston (Logan Airport) Snowfalls:

Feb. 17-18, 2003: 27.6 inches (70.1 centimeters)
Feb. 6-7, 1978: 27.1 inches (68.8 centimeters)
March 31-April 1, 1997: 25.4 inches (64.5 centimeters)
Feb. 8-9, 2013: 24.9 inches (63.2 centimeters)
Jan. 26-27, 2015: 24.6 inches (62.4 centimeters)
Feb. 16-17, 2003: 23.6 inches (59.9 centimeters)
Jan. 22-23, 2005: 22.5 inches (57.1 centimeters)
Feb. 9, 2015: 22.2 inches (56.4 centimeters)
Jan. 20-21, 1978: 21.4 inches (54.3 centimeters)

H. Fan
January 29, 2022 7:08 pm

Jan. 1978 (I believe) when I lived in VA we got 2 feet of snow from a massive storm. Curiously, that was before global warming, aka climate change, had been discovered. I seem to recall the TV weatherman, Bob Ryan, calling it… “bad weather”.

rah
January 30, 2022 2:35 am

Joe Bastardi pointed out in this weeks Saturday Summary that the term “Bomb Cyclone” was one they were using back in the 70’s when he was a student at Penn State.

But the never ending hype will continue. If Joe and the European model are correct.

Going to be a rough one for lots of people in 4-5 days. Very cold with sleet, freezing rain, and snow stretching from Central Texas through Texarkana and Oklahoma. Wind turbine shutdown is possible again though not likely to be as bad as last year.

The forecast band for winter weather is from Central Texas all the way up through Indiana in the north to Kentucky in the south and continuing in a band on ENE all the way to Maine. Snow in the north predominates but further south freezing rain and sleet is most likely going to be the biggest problem.

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