Brain electrodes. NOTE this is not a picture from the actual experiment. Chris Hope, CC BY 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons

Swiss Researchers Use Brain Electrodes to Stimulate Climate Concern

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Researchers at University of Bern have reported promising results after attaching electrodes to the scalps of test humans to stimulate climate concern.

Research on brain explores how to slow down climate change

ANI | Updated: Jan 08, 2022 22:14 IST 

Bern [Switzerland], January 8 (ANI): During a recent study by the University of Bern researchers used brain stimulation to demonstrate that the ability to sympathize with the future victims of climate change encourages sustainable behaviour.

“The fact that people aren’t acting in a more climate-friendly way isn’t because we know too little about this critical situation, though,” explained Daria Knoch, Professor for Social Neuroscience at the University of Bern.
To find out more about the reasons that prevent us from acting sustainably, Daria Knoch and her team have conducted a neuroscientific study.

“It is precisely our inability to mentalise with these strangers that discourages climate-friendly action,” said Daria Knoch, commenting on the findings of the new study that she carried out with her research group in the “Social Neuro Lab” at the University of Bern.

During the study, participants received stimulation to a part of their brain which plays an important role in taking the perspective of others. This stimulation led to more sustainable behaviour.

“Applying brain stimulation to the general public is out the question, of course,” explained Benedikt Langenbach, lead author of the study and a former PhD student at the Social Neuro Lab.

However, according to the researchers, the functioning brain area in question can also be enhanced, for example, through neurofeedback and meditation.

Read more: https://www.aninews.in/news/science/research-on-brain-explores-how-to-slow-down-climate-change20220108221444/

The article in Cortex Magazine;

Brain study on how to slow down climate change

Date:December 15, 2021 Source:University of BernSummary:When it comes to climate-friendly behavior, there is often a gap between what we want and what we actually do. Although most people want to see climate change slowed down, many do not behave in an appropriately sustainable way. Researchers have now used brain stimulation to demonstrate that the ability to sympathize with the future victims of climate change encourages sustainable behavior.

Read more: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/12/211215113240.htm

The abstract of the study;

Mentalizing with the future: Electrical stimulation of the right TPJ increases sustainable decision-making

Author links open overlay panelBenedikt P.LangenbachabBranislavSavicaThomasBaumgartneraAnnika M.WyssaDariaKnochaaUniversity of Bern, Institute of Psychology, Department of Social Neuroscience and Social Psychology, Bern, SwitzerlandbUniversity of Duisburg-Essen, LVR Clinic for Psychiatry and Psychotherapy, Essen, Germany

Received 23 April 2021, Revised 22 September 2021, Accepted 2 November 2021, Available online 23 November 2021.

Action editor Alan Sanfey; Reviewed 25 July 2021

Abstract

While many people acknowledge the urgency to drastically change our consumption patterns to mitigate climate change, most people fail to live sustainably. We hypothesized that a lack of sustainability stems from insufficient intergenerational mentalizing (i.e., taking the perspective of people in the future). To causally test our hypothesis, we applied high-definition transcranial direct current stimulation (HD-tDCS) to the temporo-parietal junction (TPJ). We tested participants twice (receiving stimulation at the TPJ or the vertex as control), while they engaged in a behavioral economic paradigm measuring sustainable decision-making, even if sustainability was costly. Indeed, excitatory anodal HD-tDCS increased sustainable decision-making, while inhibitory cathodal HD-tDCS had no effect. These finding cannot be explained by changes in participants’ fairness norms or their estimation of how other people would behave. Shedding light on the neural basis of sustainability, our results could inspire targeted interventions tackling the TPJ and give neuroscientific support to theories on how to construct public campaigns addressing sustainability issues.

Read more: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010945221003609?via%3Dihub

The scientists are not entirely correct in assuming direct brain stimulation could never be applied to the public. There is plenty of speculation about the possibility of reforming criminals by implanting electrodes in their brain to suppress undesirable behaviour traits.

As the researchers note, there are plenty of less overtly intrusive ways to stimulate the identified brain areas, such as drugs or even precisely tuned propaganda, tested against subjects wired up to a brain monitor.

Lots of people take Prozac, Xanax and other anti-depressants. It is easy to imagine a dystopian future in which standard medical treatments for depression or whatever are covertly spiced up with experimental drugs to stimulate climate concern or alter voting intentions.

In some ways this may already be happening. Scientific American wrote a glowing article in 2020 about how the magic mushroom hallucinogen Psilocybin turns Conservatives into Liberals.

Blue states seem to be leading the way decriminalising the use of magic mushrooms.

Personally I’m skeptical about whether the claimed effect of Psilocybin on voter intentions is real, and I’m not in any way claiming the magic mushroom decriminalisation movement is a plot to change election outcomes. But if the effect on voter intentions turns out to be genuine, it will be fascinating to see how authorities in different jurisdictions respond to that information.

In an age when governments feel empowered to bully ordinary people about their personal health choices, dystopian medical population control nightmares which might once have seemed unthinkable no longer seem so impossibly unlikely.

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January 8, 2022 10:20 pm

The conversion of any Conservatives into ‘Liberals‘ would probably be best explained by the effect of magic mushroom hallucinogen Psilocybin destroying the patient’s brain cells.

TonyL
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
January 8, 2022 10:38 pm

Not necessary. Just a drug induced fantasy off in La-La Land where anything is possible.
This is of course, is where liberals live.
For Example:
Global Warming will destroy the planet — La-La Land
Raise taxes to fix the climate — Anything Is Possible
Or
New gun control laws will stop crime — Anything Is Possible
Career criminals will obey new gun control laws — La-La Land

Add your own favorites here.

Alan
Reply to  TonyL
January 9, 2022 8:47 am

Socialism will work, if we elect the right people.

Thomas
Reply to  Alan
January 9, 2022 8:58 am

Socialism will work, if we [electrocute] the right people.

Fixed it.

Sara
Reply to  Thomas
January 9, 2022 10:05 am

Red pill or blue pill? It’s your choice, y’know.

Bryan A
Reply to  Sara
January 9, 2022 2:48 pm

Electronic Brainwashing

TonyG
Reply to  Alan
January 9, 2022 2:42 pm

Downvotes for Alan when he is clearly just adding to TonyL’s list?

Ralph
Reply to  Alan
January 10, 2022 3:16 am

Socialism will work because we can do it correctly in the USA.

philincalifornia
Reply to  Ralph
January 10, 2022 8:57 am

….. even though the other team has all the ammo.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Alan
January 10, 2022 7:51 pm

Socialism will work, if we try it over and over again and remove everyone who doesn’t embrace it from the gene pool.

commieBob
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
January 9, 2022 1:47 am

The obvious way to convert conservatives to liberals would be to disable their brains’ right hemispheres. They would become disconnected from reality in a way that mimics schizophrenia. The loony left are literally not in their right minds. 🙂

Kevin McNeill
Reply to  commieBob
January 9, 2022 11:02 am

Exactly what my wife said when I read her the opening paragraphs of this article to her, the world is going mad.

archer
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
January 9, 2022 2:44 am

Psylocybin doesn’t do that, though. If anything, it promotes neuroplasticity.

The article is drawing untenable conclusions from statistically insignificant study results. Typical for sciam these days.

yirgach
Reply to  archer
January 9, 2022 1:23 pm

Exactly, as a an experienced user from the late 60’s I can report from earlier diligent use that there exists a broad range of experience with psychoactive drugs. Compared to LSD, mescaline and the current scourge of brain burners, psylocybin is rather cute and enjoyable.
Knowledge is the best guide, a site like Erowid is a good place to start.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
January 9, 2022 4:14 am

pity they have to link something that MAY be far more effective for depression that the ssris dont work on(not that they DO work for much except creating suicidal ideation strokes etc) the serious small dose research using psylocibin for cancer patients and seriously messed up people seems to show more promise than other options.
dragging politics n climate scams into it just throws it in the shit for brains category
and thats not useful

TonyG
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
January 9, 2022 2:41 pm

It seems to me that if you are using a hallucinogen, that would suggest you exist in an imaginary world, completely detached from reality.

They don’t realize what they’re actually saying.

Brad-DXT
January 8, 2022 10:29 pm

I think it would take electroshocks to the brain and psychedelics to change my mind about destroying the environment and economy with the green new deal crap.
I’m sure plenty of leftists are quite interested in this research.

LdB
Reply to  Brad-DXT
January 9, 2022 12:08 am

I was thinking the same thing and put a couple of extra lights on as my shrine :-).

Brad-DXT
Reply to  LdB
January 9, 2022 8:50 am

Make sure your lights shine on your leftist neighbors. They live on anguish and seeing you walking around without stubbing your toe will drive them nuts.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Brad-DXT
January 9, 2022 12:22 am

Are we sure it doesn’t just reduce IQ dramatically?

Leo Smith
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
January 9, 2022 2:11 am

Yes we are sure it doesn’t.

Kazinski
Reply to  Leo Smith
January 9, 2022 1:24 pm

It probably works like alcohol, you feel much smarter when you are drinking, but incredibly stupid in the morning.

MarkW
Reply to  Brad-DXT
January 9, 2022 7:24 am

Brave New World, here we come. Soma anyone?

Brad-DXT
Reply to  MarkW
January 9, 2022 8:52 am

As long as they are giving injections for “free” they might as well mix in something extra for your own good.

TonyL
January 8, 2022 10:30 pm

“It is easy to imagine a dystopian future in which standard medical treatments for depression or whatever are covertly spiced up with experimental drugs to stimulate climate concern or alter voting intentions.”

You do not need to imagine any of it. It has all been worked out for you, so you can read all about it.
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
The drug was “Cure All Your Problems” Soma, as I recall.

Unfortunately, like 1984 by George Orwell, Brave New World was *not* meant as an instruction manual.
The Elite Class may try to do a Great Reset and Build Back Better to create a 1984 or Brave New World.
They may well end up with Atlas Shrugged.

Mr.
Reply to  TonyL
January 8, 2022 10:34 pm

Or “Clockwork Orange”

TonyL
Reply to  Mr.
January 8, 2022 10:53 pm

True, scary.
A little voice whispers “Blade Runner”.

Rocketscientist
Reply to  TonyL
January 9, 2022 9:10 am

But, why in all these futuristic dystopian scenarios is it always raining or snowing or …

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  TonyL
January 9, 2022 1:17 am

If voting intentions could be changed what would happen when applied to loony lefties? Suppose they turn into proper republicans? What could possibly go wrong with that?

dave g
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
January 9, 2022 5:00 am

The only problem with changing Dems into Republicans is that then they’d be Republicans. Republicans only redeeming feature is that they are not Democrats. (There are a few exceptions)

Joe D
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
January 9, 2022 10:30 am

The Republicans shifted left to take the views of the Democrats from 20+ years ago. So, the Democrats shifted left to become outright communists.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  TonyL
January 9, 2022 8:26 am

They’ve already managed to end up with Marching Morons.

Zig Zag Wanderer
January 8, 2022 10:34 pm

To find out more about the reasons that prevent us from acting sustainably, Daria Knoch and her team have conducted a neuroscientific study.

I can help. As Ford Prefect said to the B Ark passengers:
“You’re a bunch of useless bloody loonies!”

Sara
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
January 9, 2022 10:23 am

Zig, you left out the part about spoiled brats that don’t pick up after themselves and trash everything they touch. 🙂

Mr.
January 8, 2022 10:34 pm

So we’re all being set up to be R. P. MacMurphy now?

Zig Zag Wanderer
January 8, 2022 10:38 pm

Blue states seem to be leading the way decriminalising the use of magic mushrooms

It’s illegal to take magic mushrooms in the USA? In the UK it’s not. I believe it’s illegal to preserve them, or sell them, but picked and eaten fresh they are perfectly legal.

MJB
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
January 9, 2022 4:03 am

Possession of fresh or dried is prohibited. There is an interesting loophole type interpretation in most states where possession, sale, or trade of spores is legal, based on the logic that the spores do not contain active compounds. Cultivating those spores into mycelium or fruits would then of course make it illegal.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  MJB
January 9, 2022 4:24 am

Huh. Apparently in 2005 they were made illegal. Naturally growing, pretty much everywhere, and they are not allowed to be consumed.

Just another advance in the ‘war on drugs’. Let’s ignore the fact that no drugs were illegal before the 20th century.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
January 9, 2022 8:29 am

Pot is legal in Washington state, where I live, but I still don’t use it. I don’t see the point in any of that garbage, along with alcohol. If you can’t deal with reality, then just go away.

Joe Gordon
January 8, 2022 10:54 pm

I suspect I will miss Beethoven when this becomes reality.

MJB
Reply to  Joe Gordon
January 9, 2022 4:08 am

Dr. Brodsky: Sin? What’s all this about sin?
Alex: That! Using Ludwig van like that! He did no harm to anyone. Beethoven just wrote music!
Dr. Brodsky: Are you referring to the background score?

DMacKenzie
January 8, 2022 11:02 pm

Dr. Venkman’s ESP test….updated.

Ryan
January 8, 2022 11:57 pm

I thought for a moment that I was looking at The Babylon Bee

Tom
Reply to  Ryan
January 9, 2022 5:55 am

I’m not yet convinced that it isn’t (or at least a reasonable facsimile thereof)

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Ryan
January 9, 2022 8:31 am

Same

Rory Forbes
January 9, 2022 12:08 am

These people are truly mad. Surely no one can believe such ideas are the product of a sound, healthy mind. These people are getting crazier and crazier.

Sara
Reply to  Rory Forbes
January 9, 2022 10:26 am

Excuse me, but “getting crazier”????? No, no, Rory: I beg to differ: they have always been crazier than flies in a garbage dump, but they haven’t had the “freedom” or encouragement to let loose with what they’re just jiggy as all get-out to try.

Red pill or blue pill?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Sara
January 9, 2022 12:52 pm

You’re right, of course. They’ve always been crazy, we’re just getting inured to the extent of it.

Mr.
Reply to  Rory Forbes
January 9, 2022 12:23 pm

Remember this ‘research’ is taking place at Bern University in Switzerland.

Switzerland remained neutral in WW2, not wanting to upset their neighbors N@zi Germany who were carrying out atrocities against innocent civilians in many parts of Europe.

So the Swiss authorities have form in having little regard for stepping up to protect the safety & wellbeing of ordinary folks.

Do the Bern researchers also follow a similar disregard for ordinary peoples’ right to not have their bodies interfered with by “the authorities”?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Mr.
January 9, 2022 1:06 pm

I’ve had my suspicions about the sanity of most psychologist/psychiatrists for a very long time … but the Swiss appear to have their mainsprings too tight. The Nuremberg Code has been completely confined to the dustbin of history by the usual suspects.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Rory Forbes
January 10, 2022 8:23 pm

A subject of great interest to me. In the ancient days, training for psychology & psychiatry included dozens of hours of mandatory therapy. I recently visited the curricula pages of several institutions and discovered that mandatory therapy has been largely eliminated. Holy coprolite, Batman! The blind are leading the blind. I’ve heard horror stories from people in the field, and the result is every bit as bad as you might expect. The DSM has been reduced to a Leftist Sears hobby catalog. There is no behavior too perverted to be regarded as normal.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
January 10, 2022 11:13 pm

That is he sad truth. There was a purpose to mandatory therapy for practitioners … I suppose, rather like a Roman conqueror’s triumphal march into to Rome, with the slave in his chariot holding the laurel wreath above his head, saying; “you’re still just a man, you’re only a man”. As you say, they keep altering the text of the DSM to suit their latest descent into perversion, gradually degrading society according to Marxist dogma to demoralize society … literally. Degenerates like Kinsey get lauded as pathfinders and hero’s now.

The DSM is rather like The Commandments in ‘Animal Farm‘ … flexible with passing time and the decadence of the pigs. Nope … psychology and psychiatry can no longer be trusted. They’re too good at gas lighting. I sometimes think the Democrats have several on staff to direct their strategy.

LdB
January 9, 2022 12:11 am

Begs the question how do they intend to get us to start to believe in future climate victims or even care about it?

dave g
Reply to  LdB
January 9, 2022 5:03 am

Up the voltage.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  dave g
January 9, 2022 11:58 am

Millgram found the right answer.
More than 50% of people opted under orders to kill the patient.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  pigs_in_space
January 10, 2022 8:27 pm

Milgram. They opted to behave in a way that would have killed the patient, had there really been one. The patient was imaginary.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  LdB
January 9, 2022 8:32 am

Raises the question, “begs the question” is a logical fallacy.

Redge
January 9, 2022 12:17 am

WTF!

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Redge
January 9, 2022 8:33 am

FTW!

fretslider
January 9, 2022 12:29 am

Electrodes…..

Shocking stuff

MarkW
Reply to  fretslider
January 9, 2022 7:28 am

Images of Dr; Frankenstein’s lab come to mind.

Sara
Reply to  MarkW
January 9, 2022 10:36 am

And the second movie, ‘Young Frankenstein” with that incredible theme music that attracted the “monster” (Peter Boyle), makes it even better.

Howard Dewhirst
January 9, 2022 12:36 am

Interesting to see that ‘they’ don’t use facts about climate change to ‘stimulate concern’. Does this mean they know the facts are against them I wonder

whiten
Reply to  Eric Worrall
January 9, 2022 5:07 am

That is the claim Eric.

But in reality, the real effect of mental manipulation, has only one successful impact.
Achieving full complicity from the victim(s), towards a given goal or a particular issue.

Where and when the clause of victimization hangs and/or relies on the inability of proper understanding or comprehension of the key condition in question, and also the conviction and belief in the indisputable certainty of it.

In this case it is aimed at those who can not even contemplate that Climate Change or man made global warming is a massive organized deception, and/or those who do not even contemplate that natural CO2 emissions and natural CO2 atmospheric concentration do not even sense the man made emissions.

Even when such as, pretends and claims “to stimulate feelings of compassion”, it actually stimulates controlled feelings of persecution and lynching towards those that beg to differ from the certainty of the condition.

Only a deluded mind can be manipulated. Only a mind that believes firmly in an indisputable certainty of a given and refuses to even consider the alternatives.
Only a mind that already “enslaved” to a very narrow range of possibilities and probabilities, due to whatever root condition,
A closed and strictly uniformed mind can very successfully be considerably manipulated, regardless of IQ or/and education or/and social hierarchy.

cheers

drednicolson
Reply to  whiten
January 9, 2022 7:32 am

Only the completely insane are completely convinced of their own sanity.

Pariah Dog
Reply to  drednicolson
January 10, 2022 2:09 am

In the land of the mad, the sane man is at a distinct disadvantage.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  whiten
January 9, 2022 8:35 am

But in reality, the real effect of mental manipulation, has only one successful impact.
Achieving full complicity from the victim(s), towards a given goal or a particular issue.”

It apparently also results in comma abuse.

Sara
Reply to  Eric Worrall
January 9, 2022 10:47 am

Eric, the Monster wasn’t the monster. The monster was Dr. Frankenstein.

asiaseen
January 9, 2022 12:51 am

What “future victims”?

In any case this has to be an ethically and morally unacceptable experiment.

whiten
Reply to  asiaseen
January 9, 2022 4:11 am

“Minority Report”

Hello!

roaddog
January 9, 2022 12:58 am

Because what good is life without a Thanksgiving-size helping of schizophrenia?

Ed Zuiderwijk
January 9, 2022 1:12 am

This ‘research’ has more holes in it than Swiss cheese.

Danny Newton
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
January 9, 2022 11:36 pm

I would guess the biggest hole is the failure to know the future. Such an ability would be of great utility in artificially moving people who couldn’t see the future onto more perfect behavior and habits. The second hole would be the temptation of trying to suggest to everyone that they should buy an Electric Vehicle while at the same time investing heavily into Tesla. We really don’t need electrodes on our heads as long as we have TV and smart phones do we? The crowd can be cornered, corralled and herded without all of that electrode stuff. Soros is doing a pretty good job with even more primitive pictures of dead presidents.

John Culhane
January 9, 2022 1:34 am

More junk science. This is a classic case of researchers wanting grant money for something else, but can’t get it without the uttering the politically correct word “climate”.

Leo Smith
Reply to  John Culhane
January 9, 2022 2:13 am

Indeed. I spoke to a postgrad who agreed that his professor was ‘the best at working climate change into every grant application’.

H.R.
Reply to  Leo Smith
January 9, 2022 4:47 am

Is that professor a professor of metallurgy? Working climate change into metallurgy would be very impressive.

I suppose one could apply for a grant to study how climate change makes metals more metal-ier. But that’s one of those grants where you just say you studied it but actually spent the grant money on booze, women, and tropical island vacations.

Danny Newton
Reply to  John Culhane
January 9, 2022 11:10 pm

Does it stop voting numerous times and impersonating dead people?

Joseph Zorzin
January 9, 2022 1:55 am

Researchers at University of Bern have reported promising results after attaching electrodes to the scalps of test humans to stimulate climate concern.

wow, the ultimate in brain washing!

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 9, 2022 8:37 am

My guess… The crash test dummies just agreed with whatever the researchers wanted, so they would take the friggin electrodes off!

Nicholas
January 9, 2022 2:05 am

Mind control, the ultimate dream of the scientific socialists. Do you suspect that funding for their Mind-Boggling plan is funded by popular subscription, or by certain billionaires and corrupt World Organisations intent on imposing their in-house schemes on all.

John Power
Reply to  Nicholas
January 9, 2022 2:53 pm

And don’t forget possible tax-payer funding via unaccountable Deep State black-budget ops, a la the CIA’s MKUltra mind-control research program of the 1960’s and ’70’s, too.

Leo Smith
January 9, 2022 2:10 am

Psilocybin doesn’t damage the brain so it cannot turn conservatives into Liberals.

Gregory Woods
January 9, 2022 3:03 am

Daria et al need lobotomies..

Steve B
January 9, 2022 3:24 am

Who pays these people for this research?

H.R.
Reply to  Steve B
January 9, 2022 4:53 am

Good question, Steve. In the U.S., it would be us, the taxpayers.

But in Switzerland? I don’t know how that country ticks, but it seems it’s not only their clocks that are cuckoo.

bonbon
January 9, 2022 3:39 am

This is Lord Bertrand Russell’s The Impact of Science on Society :
“Physiology and psychology afford fields for scientific technique which still await development. Two great men, Pavlov and Freud, have laid the foundation. I do not accept the view that they are in any essential conflict, but what structure will be built on their foundations is still in doubt. I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is mass psychology. . . . Its importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda. Of these the most influential is what is called `education.’ Religion plays a part, though a diminishing one; the press, the cinema, and the radio play an increasing part. . . . It may be hoped that in time anybody will be able to persuade anybody of anything if he can catch the patient young and is provided by the State with money and equipment.”

This is the day-book for all such misguided ¨research¨ –

… Fourth, that the opinion that snow is white must be held to show a morbid taste for eccentricity. But I anticipate. It is for future scientists to make these maxims precise and discover exactly how much it costs per head to make children believe that snow is black, and how much less it would cost to make them believe it is dark gray.”

It is a matter of research grants! I think the cost of lukewarming far exceeds cooling and warming together!

Dudley Horscroft(@dudleyhorscroft)
Reply to  bonbon
January 9, 2022 3:53 am

But if it works in the way suggested, then it will equally well work in the reverse direction, and we can restore alarmists to sane individuals.

bonbon
Reply to  Dudley Horscroft
January 9, 2022 4:06 am

Worrying is the Hysteresis area :
Collateral loss of mentation….

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ozspeaksup
January 9, 2022 4:11 am

brave new world
take your soma
as for this supposed research
an utter waste of funding
the “researchers” should be fired

Jerry Mead
January 9, 2022 4:23 am

This stimulation led to more sustainable behaviour.”

Further research by the team revealed that a small windmill threaded into the top of the subject’s skull returned a composite – and unprecedented – 97% sustainability.

garboard
January 9, 2022 4:23 am

so the goal is to “ drastically change our patterns of consumption “ . in that case you might want to start with the uber wealthy folks and profligate consumers who are the ones most fervently pushing the climate crisis story . from my experience the higher up the income / consumption ladder you go the greater the push for fighting climate change . often with very expensive solutions like electric cars and heat pumps complete with subsidies which take money from poorer people and give it to wealthier people . green policies do drastically reduce patterns of consumption but often detrimentally in indirect proportion to wealth . the poor always pay more . maybe if we give jeff bezos a good dose of psilocybin he could be convinced to donate all his money to charity and live like a monk .

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Danny Newton
Reply to  garboard
January 9, 2022 11:23 pm

I think reducing consumption is a great idea but there are two ways of doing that. The first is to consume less but produce more. This requires higher efficiency. The second way is to consume less and produce less. The second way is somewhat problematic since the ability to focus resources onto a problem is likewise reduced. Energy hungry industries will be forced into making their products more and more expensive to pay off the capital investment that they initiated may years before going on an energy diet. The product will be made where such demands are not as strict, like Viet Nam or India. How can Big Oil help save the planet if they are not allowed to produce oil? When COVID hit, most people saw the moral necessity of the government helping people get through not being able to produce. But for some reason, Big Oil can just flip sand.

Joao Martins
January 9, 2022 4:38 am

Were those criminals allowed to perform those experiments?

Read the abstract: it is NOT model outputs, it is the real manipulation of human brains!

Bruce Cobb
January 9, 2022 5:13 am

Climate “researchers” shocked to find that people’s actions regarding climate don’t match up with their Beliefs decide to return the favor.
Film at 11.

John Bell
January 9, 2022 5:40 am

But you can be sure the ‘researchers’ still use lots of fossil fuels every day! Ya see, they are exempt from being subject to the ramifications of their own energy policy goals. the HYPOCRITES!

Ted
January 9, 2022 6:02 am

This is just a subset of the knowledge that scientists haven’t found a way to make the average person smarter, but the brain can be damaged with directed shocks.

Danny Newton
Reply to  Ted
January 9, 2022 11:27 pm

I have known a lot of smart people and the main advantage to being smart seems to be the ability to come to a wrong conclusion quicker, defend it better and dismiss those who disagree.

Russ
January 9, 2022 6:33 am

An older movie that I saw comes to mind as I read this. Something about a mad scientist playing with electricity and watching his experiment exclaiming: “It’s alive!” “It’s alive!”

Don’t these fools have something better to do with their time?

They appear to want to implement MK Ultra on a large scale basis.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Russ
January 9, 2022 8:42 am

The “It’s alive!” meme was a Hollywood creation. In the actual Mary Shelley book, after Dr. Frankenstein creates his “masterpiece”, he goes to bed and tries to pretend it didn’t happen.

Alba
January 9, 2022 6:51 am

“Applying brain stimulation to the general public is out the question, of course,” explained Benedikt Langenbach,
The scientists are not entirely correct in assuming direct brain stimulation could never be applied to the public. There is plenty of speculation about the possibility of reforming criminals by implanting electrodes in their brain to suppress undesirable behaviour traits.
Spot the difference? Langenbach refers to ‘the general public’. ie. Just about everybody.
Eric Worrall refers to a very small section of the population.

MarkW
Reply to  Alba
January 9, 2022 7:34 am

Various alarmists have already proposed making disagreement with them a crime.

The governor of California recently proposed making the telling of certain “lies” a crime.

James H
January 9, 2022 8:58 am

I guess this is the start of “The Matrix”.

Killer Marmot
January 9, 2022 9:05 am

“Applying brain stimulation to the general public is out the question, of course,” explained Benedikt Langenbach

“Applying brain stimulation to the general public should only be done in extreme cases,” explained Benedikt Langenbach

“Applying brain stimulation to the general public is not needed in most cases,” explained Benedikt Langenbach

“Applying brain stimulation to the general public is strongly recommended,” explained Benedikt Langenbach

“Applying brain stimulation to the general public should be mandated,” explained Benedikt Langenbach

CD in Wisconsin
January 9, 2022 9:07 am

Like the Borg from Star Trek. You WILL be assimilated into the climate collective. Resistance is futile.

Rocketscientist
January 9, 2022 9:14 am

Manchurian Candidate?
How unoriginal.

Duane
January 9, 2022 9:20 am

This is too easy?

So now researchers can emulate stupid?

D. Thomason
January 9, 2022 9:41 am

Why not boost common sense?

ResourceGuy
Reply to  D. Thomason
January 10, 2022 7:39 am

That does not have an advocacy army supporting it and paid political caucuses pushing it.

Gordon A. Dressler
January 9, 2022 9:48 am

Hmmm . . . it seems that brainwashing wasn’t enough. They’re now having to resort to direct brain programming “stimulation”.

Sara
January 9, 2022 10:04 am

You want sympathy for the Devil, do you? Be careful what you wish for. You might get it.

OK, am I understanding this as an attempt to brainwash the maddening crowd of people who have a viewpoint opposite of what these experimenters want them to have?

One side makes you smaller
And one side makes you tall
And the things that Mother gives you
Don’t do anything at all…

  • White Rabbit: Jefferson Airplane

These are very disturbing things that they are promoting. Very disturbing.

Marnof
Reply to  Sara
January 9, 2022 3:18 pm

“Science won’t change you
Looks like I can’t change you
I try to talk to you, to make things clear
but you’re not even listening to me…
And it comes directly from my heart to you…
I need something to change your mind.”

Mind, by
Talking Heads
Fear of Music

Jyrkoff
January 9, 2022 10:08 am

The irrationality of those opposing hallucinogens never ceases to make me sad. Do the research, understand these compounds and how they work. Then try them. Then you can speak with some degree of authority on them.

Otherwise you’re purely speculating.

And it’s funny, the more hallucinogens I took over the course of my life, the more conservative I’ve become. Preferring no political self-label, most yet call me “libertarian.” “Republican” has been applied to me, though usually as an epithet…

Hallucinogens didn’t make me want to fly or go crazy in public or do harm to anyone. I never “talked to God” or “saw the secrets of the universe unfold before me” or any other pseudo-spiritual garbage. I just got really, really high, and had visual and other sense distortions that at times were fantastically impressive. I never saw a reduction in depression, or any benefit, other than a sort of emotional “blank” for the following few days, which, if you understand these compounds, is actually no surprise.

I suppose if you were very depressed or anxious those few days of feeling nothing would be called “relief.” Perhaps some folks have a longer period of that than I did, but mine was very short-lived.

Psilocybin and especially LSD require a time commitment of 6-12 hours where you can’t have any obligations or responsibilities or emergencies. As you have lots of energy you can end up exhausting and dehydrating yourself just as much as if you were partying on booze for a night. I got older and the recovery period and time commitment stopped it from being fun and I eventually just got bored with it.

I’ve taken hundreds of “hits” of LSD and eaten mushrooms more times than I bothered to count or recall, and in the end all I got for it was some fun times and lousy days recovering from the fun. No “flashbacks” or later effects.

And as you can see, I’m just fine cognitively. I can speak, write, think, and behave quite normally. These compounds, these hallucinogens, are hardly the demons folks here are making them out to be.

If you want demons, look inside those prescription bottles. Look at who is making those pills. Who is selling them, profiting from them. Those are your demons, those are your devils. Aim your pitchforks there.

The little mushroom has done you no harm.

Jon R
Reply to  Jyrkoff
January 9, 2022 11:48 am

They’re pretty effective for PTSD and alcoholism too.

John Bell
January 9, 2022 11:29 am

Is it not fascinating what leftists fixate on and obsess over…

Disputin
January 9, 2022 11:32 am

Social Neuro Lab”

A Neuro Lab (whatever that is) is probably a reasonably useful thing. Putting “Social” in front of it immediately negates the whole thing.

ResourceGuy
January 9, 2022 11:34 am

Where is Jack Nicholson when we need him?

ResourceGuy
January 9, 2022 11:35 am

How many Dems already went in for treatment?

ResourceGuy
January 9, 2022 11:37 am

Will the NYT, WaPo, and NPR offer coupons?

ResourceGuy
January 9, 2022 11:43 am

Is this part of the media training for the CDC officials as well?

Biden health chief endures Fox News grilling over mixed Covid messaging | Biden administration | The Guardian

Earlier this week, it was reported that Dr Rochelle Walensky, director of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, was undergoing media training. She also told told reporters she was “committed to improve” communications.

ResourceGuy
January 9, 2022 11:45 am

Were they inspired by the ESP testing scene in Ghostbusters?

pigs_in_space
January 9, 2022 12:05 pm

First it was the Austrians, now the Swiss.
All we need now is the French and Italians to have a crack at mind altering.
What is it about countries full of happy cows +lots of cheese and wine that makes them want to strap electrodes to the heads of otherwise sensible people?

Gerald Machnee
January 9, 2022 12:09 pm

What she has not figured out is what part of the atmosphere you have to put electrodes on to actually change the climate.

beafrank
January 9, 2022 12:13 pm

Wow! Leftist resurrect ‘electric shock’ treatments to brainwash people to their delusional ideals.

Elle Webber
January 9, 2022 12:16 pm

What is chilling here is this: researchers got money, equipment, and ethical pre-approval to put electrodes on real people to manipulate their thoughts to something politically correct. Why would this even come up as a research topic? Who decided it was a terrific idea? Where is the research headed? “What could possibly go wrong?”

TonyG
January 9, 2022 12:39 pm

the magic mushroom hallucinogen Psilocybin turns Conservatives into Liberals.

The jokes write themselves….

TonyG
January 9, 2022 12:40 pm

It never seems to occur to these “researchers” that, perhaps, there is a problem with the message if you have to manipulate people like this in order to get them to accept it.

michael hart
January 9, 2022 12:44 pm

There must be something wrong with my calendar. It’s April 1st, right?

ResourceGuy
January 9, 2022 1:32 pm

Climate change advocacy meets Dr. Mengele.

January 9, 2022 1:37 pm

Talk about desperation from the Useful Idiot Pseudo-Science crowd.

ResourceGuy
January 9, 2022 2:34 pm

What setting did they use on the adjacent space heater?

John in Oz
January 9, 2022 4:31 pm

the magic mushroom hallucinogen Psilocybin turns Conservatives into Liberals

Shouldn’t this be “The ability to obtain the magic mushroom hallucinogen Psilocybin turns Conservative voters into Liberal voters in order to continue using it

In Oz, the Labor (US blue) party is fond of handouts to win votes. No different in other countries

accordionsrule
January 9, 2022 6:30 pm

I already reek of compassion toward the future generation. We are leaving them a legacy of energy poverty, forests of rusty windmills and landscapes carpeted with hazy solar panels and the outrageous unpaid debt for same. But I do really need this electrified neuron alteration to improve my behavior and spurn me into action to DO SOMETHING to save the children from these delusional CAGW madmen.

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Jim Hovater
January 9, 2022 6:47 pm

This gives a whole new meaning to the term ‘brainwashed’.

Dennis
January 10, 2022 10:38 am

So lets see now ……Hmmmmmm? If you don’t believe in Climate change or Global Warming they administer electroshock treatments ?
Hey!!!! we can use this stuff on the unvaxed ! <sarc off>

Dennis
January 10, 2022 10:40 am

I’ll bet Greta’s parents own stock in this research !

John the Econ
January 10, 2022 11:18 am

I don’t see this being abused at all.

Martin Pinder
January 10, 2022 12:07 pm

I personally have tried Transcranial Direct Current Brain Stimulation & I have to say that it had no effect on anything. I suspect that it is another experimental piece of quackery which will eventually be abandoned when something else comes along. The results of this experiment? The researchers found what they wanted to find & the guinea pigs learned to give the answers that the researchers wanted to hear. If you are going to claim that TDCBS has this effect it needs confirming by a lot more properly conducted double blind trials.

King Coal
January 12, 2022 9:43 am

Free issue at COP no doubt!

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