Climate Council: Global Warming Now Causes MORE Rainfall

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Tim Flannery, who founded the Climate Council in 2013, once predicted “the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams”.

Global warming heats up Australia’s cool La Nina weather cycle

By Mike Foley
January 6, 2022 — 5.52pm

Despite the La Nina weather pattern and other climate drivers bringing rain and the coolest temperatures for the past decade, the heating trend under climate change continued during the past year.

The Bureau of Meteorology’s Annual Climate Statement, released on Thursday, said 2021 was the wettest year since 2016 while last November was the wettest on record. Parched rivers and dams welcomed the rain that has rolled across much of Australia in the past two years, after three years of intense drought from 2017 to 2019.

But such is the underlying influence of global warming that despite two consecutive years of cooling La Nina weather patterns, 2021 had 9 per cent above-average rainfall and was also the 19th hottest year since records began in 1910.

Climate Council’s director of research Martin Rice said the current level of warming was spurring higher rates of natural disasters.

In a more energetic climate we are experiencing Black Summer fires, more powerful storms, intense rainfall and major flooding, storm surges riding on higher seas, and unprecedented coral bleaching,” Dr Rice said.

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The following is Flannery’s rain won’t fill our dams prediction, from the transcript of his ABC Australia interview in 2006;

SALLY SARA: What will it mean for Australian farmers if the predictions of climate change are correct and little is done to stop it? What will that mean for a farmer?

PROFESSOR TIM FLANNERY: We’re already seeing the initial impacts and they include a decline in the winter rainfall zone across southern Australia, which is clearly an impact of climate change, but also a decrease in run-off. Although we’re getting say a 20 per cent decrease in rainfall in some areas of Australia, that’s translating to a 60 per cent decrease in the run-off into the dams and rivers. That’s because the soil is warmer because of global warming and the plants are under more stress and therefore using more moisture. So even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and our river systems, and that’s a real worry for the people in the bush. If that trend continues then I think we’re going to have serious problems, particularly for irrigation.

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Just remember folks, climate change is settled science. The miracle molecule can cause permanent drought and more intense rainfall, all right at the same time.

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January 6, 2022 6:17 pm

Well, that first quote of his is sorta correct. Clowns like him leading the charge to remove dams has certainly reduced the amount being caught.

Climate does what it does, people ain’t causing any of it and cannot stop it, either.

Reply to  2hotel9
January 6, 2022 6:51 pm

Australian, New South Wales, Mid North Coast;

* late 2019 bushfires extending down the coast and into Victoria, and fires elsewhere.
* mid 2020 flooding rains and widespread flooding.

And right now more rain.

Reply to  Dennis
January 6, 2022 7:01 pm

And lack of prescribed burning in eucalypts? Climate change doesn’t cause fires. Arson does and lesser lightning. Fuel load causes bigger fires.
It never flooded in NSW before AGW/CC?

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Reply to  Dennis
January 6, 2022 7:02 pm

Yep, it do what it do all by itself.

Reply to  Dennis
January 6, 2022 8:12 pm

Canada, British Columbia;

  • last June heatwave 39C temps for a week.
  • last 2 weeks double-digit below zero temps and feet (not inches) of snow everywhere.

And right now more freezing rain.

“Weather – everybody talks about it, but nobody ever does anything about it.”

  • Mark Twain
Reply to  2hotel9
January 7, 2022 2:23 pm

dams don’t fiil. resevoirs do

Reply to  czechlist
January 8, 2022 5:36 am

Not under these clowns “rules”.

January 6, 2022 6:23 pm

Climate change, when influenced by media and bureaucrats, can do anything. They parody themselves.

Dave Yaussy
January 6, 2022 6:24 pm

CO2. The miracle molecule

Zig Zag Wanderer
January 6, 2022 6:24 pm

the 19th hottest year since records began in 1910

If you stretch reeeaaaaly far, you might just be able to clutch that straw….

The miracle molecule can cause permanent drought and more intense rainfall, all right at the same time.

It also causes heat and cold, more hurricanes and less hurricanes with more intensity, fewer crops and more crops with les nutrients, fewer prey and more predators, more snow & ice and less snow & ice… Ad nauseam

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Reply to  Eric Worrall
January 6, 2022 8:30 pm

And what needs to be appreciated is that back in 1896 women wore long skirts over layers of underwear, and men got around in 3-piece serge suits all day and in all weathers.

No airconditioned spaces to hunker down in either.

Timo, not that one
Reply to  Mr.
January 7, 2022 9:42 am

Interesting. If the warmunists get their way, no more air conditioning, more death from normal heat.
It’s a self fulfilling prophesy.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Eric Worrall
January 6, 2022 8:41 pm

CliSciFi at its best: Don’t like the implications of the data? Just change the starting point or adjust the data.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Dave Fair
January 7, 2022 3:12 am

I wouldn’t trust the Australian temperature data mannipulators as far as I could throw them.

Does the UAH satellite show Australia warming above normal? It shows the rest of the world is cooling. So where is this unusual Australian warming coming from? The fevered imaginations of the data mannipulators?

I have a Tmax chart of Australia that shows it was just as warm in the Early Twentieth Century as it is today, so 1896 isn’t the only warm period in Australia’s history.

Burl Henry
Reply to  Eric Worrall
January 6, 2022 9:06 pm

Eric Worral:

You mentioned the 1896 heat wave in Australia.

FYI, it was caused by a 53 month hiatus in volcanic eruptions, from 1893 Jan to 1897 Jun. Temperatures ALWAYS rise when there are no volcanic eruptions to provide cooling SO2 aerosols in the atmosphere, for intervals of ~3 years or more (unless SO2 aerosols are provided by Industrial activity)….

Reply to  Burl Henry
January 6, 2022 9:20 pm

It was all down to those evil steam locomotives trundling all around Australia in the 1890s.

All 6 of them.

Reply to  Mr.
January 7, 2022 1:04 am

Today all the hot air is coming from just one train, the gravy train.

Burl Henry
Reply to  Mr.
January 7, 2022 4:35 am


I stand corrected.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Burl Henry
January 7, 2022 3:43 am

Yeah, keep banging that aerosols drum. You’re in a parade of one.

Burl Henry
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
January 7, 2022 5:45 am

Bruce Cobb:

Well put, but totally in-comprehensible.

Surely there must be a few intelligent viewers on this site who agree with me..

Here,:educate yourself.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Burl Henry
January 7, 2022 10:53 am

Correlation does not equal causation. Moron.

Burl Henry
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
January 7, 2022 12:40 pm

Bruce Cobb:

If you read the references, you will see hundreds of correlations of temperature changes coincident with changing levels of atmospheric SO2 levels, which HAVE to occur if a model is correct. There are no exceptions: whenever SO2 levels increase, temperatures decrease. And when SO2 levels decrease, temperature increase..

But perhaps that is above your level of understanding.

Robert Alfred Taylor
Reply to  Burl Henry
January 7, 2022 3:17 pm

First link is broken.

Burl Henry
Reply to  Robert Alfred Taylor
January 7, 2022 9:06 pm

It is such a long link, probably a typo, will try again Let me know if it still doesn’t work.

Tom Halla
January 6, 2022 6:24 pm

As if modeling is accurate enough to make good predictions. Weather is a bitch, as California is having a rain pattern much more typical for an El Nino year in a La Nina.

January 6, 2022 6:36 pm

CO2 acting in Climate Change is the miracle chemical compound that causes the weather to be wetter and drier, hotter and cooler, and makes ice form and ice melt and seas rise and fall and all at the same time.

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
January 6, 2022 8:14 pm

What an age we live in.
Real-life psychedelic weather 🙂

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January 6, 2022 6:49 pm

AKA Tom Foolery.

Australia, a poem written around 1900 by a young Australian women visiting the UK and reminiscing about her life in Australia, notably on her family’s pastoral property and later on pastoral properties owned by a brother, and she described Australia as …

“a land of droughts and flooding rains”.

Reply to  Dennis
January 6, 2022 6:56 pm

My Country
The love of field and coppice,
Of green and shaded lanes.
Of ordered woods and gardens
Is running in your veins,
Strong love of grey-blue distance
Brown streams and soft dim skies
I know but cannot share it,
My love is otherwise.

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.
I love her far horizons,
I love her jewel-sea,
Her beauty and her terror –
The wide brown land for me!

A stark white ring-barked forest
All tragic to the moon,
The sapphire-misted mountains,
The hot gold hush of noon.
Green tangle of the brushes,
Where lithe lianas coil,
And orchids deck the tree-tops
And ferns the warm dark soil.

Core of my heart, my country!
Her pitiless blue sky,
When sick at heart, around us,
We see the cattle die –
But then the grey clouds gather,
And we can bless again
The drumming of an army,
The steady, soaking rain.

Core of my heart, my country!
Land of the Rainbow Gold,
For flood and fire and famine,
She pays us back threefold –
Over the thirsty paddocks,
Watch, after many days,
The filmy veil of greenness
That thickens as we gaze.

An opal-hearted country,
A wilful, lavish land –
All you who have not loved her,
You will not understand –
Though earth holds many splendours,
Wherever I may die,
I know to what brown country
My homing thoughts will fly.

Reply to  Dennis
January 6, 2022 7:04 pm

Thanks. Never read this before.

Reply to  2hotel9
January 6, 2022 11:09 pm

A 15year old schoolgirl wrote that when they were actually taught to observe and read and write but there’s another poignant one-
Said Hanrahan [poem by John O’Brien] (

Reply to  Dennis
January 7, 2022 12:26 am

First stanza is about England/UK. From the “I love a sunburnt country” onwards is about Australia.

“The first years of European settlement in Australia were marked by extreme wet weather in which the settlers experienced flooding on a number of occasions. Yet by 1791, says Joëlle, they were locked in the grip of a drought in which masses of flying foxes and birds were recorded falling dead from the trees due to the searing heat.”

Reply to  Dennis
January 7, 2022 2:17 am

dorothea Mc Kellar

John Hultquist
Reply to  ozspeaksup
January 7, 2022 10:22 am
Rick W Kargaard
Reply to  Dennis
January 7, 2022 6:16 am

Just for balance , a little comment from Canada.

For seventy-nine winters I have grown old
But seldom have seen a New Year so cold
Supposed to be warmer I’ve heard them say
Was not very obvious, this New Year’s Day

To fight climate change we have to pay
Taxes on heat to keep winter at bay
It’s becoming a sin to drive to the store
Cause driving our car will make it warm more

Excuse me for saying I think it’s a crock
Our leaders only tell lies when they talk
I think it is funny a Canuck can be told
We have to pay more to make it stay cold

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Reply to  Rick W Kargaard
January 7, 2022 6:04 pm

Yesterday’s high was -27 C in Val Quentin, one of Alberta’s summer villages. It has been brutally cold for a month. And all that guff about “a dry cold” ! This morning it was -28 C and 100% humidity, then started snowing.

I see Buffalo NY is getting three inches of snow per hour. That should make for an interesting Saturday.

Reply to  Dennis
January 6, 2022 7:06 pm

the wide BROWN land for me!

And Dorothea wasn’t trying to be woke & inclusive when she penned those immortal words.
Just calling it as it is.

January 6, 2022 6:52 pm

Well, technically speaking, one degree warmer sea surface temp should have 7% more water vapour above that sea surface, which MIGHT make the total water column to TOA 7% more, which MIGHT make rainfall 7% more….so instead of 50 mm rainfall, 53 mm…or MIGHT make rains more common, so instead of six (6) 50 mm rains per year, maybe 6.4 per year…. Both well within the usual -60 plus 160 % annual range of most climate zones.
And you will find sources that say precipitation is up (and others say down!). Following is from USEPA one of the “UP” sources.
But wait a sec, let’s check the AMO curve…hmmm….looks like Flannery’s interpretation of a Monte Carlo casino worth of model runs has not picked the winner.….

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Mike Dubrasich
Reply to  DMacKenzie
January 6, 2022 8:33 pm

Yes. A warmer globe means warmer oceans (most of the globe is water), which causes more evaporation, leading to more clouds and hence more rain (on land and sea).

Rain is a Good Thing. Plants need it. Animals, too. With enough rain, deserts will bloom.

More rain is one of the many benefits of global warming, also a Good Thing, if it were to happen. Warmer Is Better.

Julian Flood
Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
January 7, 2022 1:39 am

More evaporation other things being equal. Find two two acre lakes. Keep one pristine. Pour five ml olive oil on the other. Watch as the oiled one warms and evaporates less.

There’s pan evaporation data of rates falling. There-s SeaWifs data of vast amounts of aerosol oil pollution.

Now pollute every sea on the planet. Do you get my drift?


Mike Dubrasich
Reply to  Julian Flood
January 7, 2022 9:00 am

Dear JF,

Your eponymous moniker is apropos. Oiling the oceans, eh? To stop evaporation? Another Ice Nine solution to a non-problem. Let’s not but say we did.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
January 7, 2022 10:26 am

Luke Bryan – Rain Is A Good Thing 

Search-up the musing video.

Alan M
Reply to  DMacKenzie
January 7, 2022 5:21 am

Yeah but, yeah but, all that extra evaporation will fall way out in the ocean and doesn’t count

January 6, 2022 6:54 pm

I was going to make a comment about certain climate clowns but I had second thoughts because they never deserved attention.

January 6, 2022 6:56 pm

 the plants are under more stress and therefore using more moisture.”

Science now says the higher CO2 levels mean reduced water needs for plants.

Iain Russell
January 6, 2022 7:33 pm

And let’s not even mention the snow that our children won’t know – my grand kids were playing in it in NSW in November!

dodgy geezer
January 6, 2022 8:01 pm

This is a religion – not a science. There is absolutely no point in making logical arguments to show the absurdity of it – they will only cause the adherents to hold more strongly to their beliefs. If necessary they will claim that it is a miracle that floods and droughts can appear on the same day.

I do not know how to save the scientists and politicians from the consequences of this mania. The answer probably lies in psychology…..

Chris Nisbet
Reply to  dodgy geezer
January 6, 2022 8:26 pm

I have a nasty feeling it will be the rest of us, not the scientists and politicians, who will need to be saved from the consequences.

Gerard O'Dowd
Reply to  dodgy geezer
January 6, 2022 8:44 pm

Remove US Federal Government Funding of Big “Climate” Science research at Universities to churn out the nth reiteration of GCM’s and similar confirmation bias models based on atmospheric CO2 concentrations.

All climate science research should be funded by State Governments or private research NGO funds and be primarily directed at understanding microclimates and microhabitat complexity and restoration based on state or local economic and environmental interests and priorities.

The funding of “Big Climate Science” by Federal Research Grants approved to fulfill political ideological agendas has led to the corruption of the scientific method, the suppression of opposing viewpoints to the asinine Precautionary Principle, rejection of articles with data supporting alternative theories to the CO2 hypothesis and the loss of societal trust and respect for politically activist climate scientists.

Dave Fair
Reply to  dodgy geezer
January 6, 2022 8:48 pm

The answer is not in psychology, it is in decreased funding.

Reply to  dodgy geezer
January 6, 2022 9:25 pm

To this:

“The answer probably lies in psychology…..”

From this:

“There is absolutely no point in making logical arguments to show the absurdity of it . . . This is a religion – not a science.”


AGW is Not Science
Reply to  dodgy geezer
January 7, 2022 6:43 am

There is absolutely no point in making logical arguments to show the absurdity of it

Sure there is – to show the casual observers the absurdity of it, so they might stop voting themselves into poverty, misery and suffering.

January 6, 2022 10:42 pm

Cognitive dissonance.

Reply to  Phillip Bratby
January 6, 2022 11:53 pm

Julian Jaynes perhaps, he was good at that stuff.

January 6, 2022 10:43 pm

Readers may be interested in the explanation by James Hansen from “Storms of my Grandchildren” (2009) p.xiv –
…“Another decade later on June 23, 1988 I was a witness, an official witness when I testified to a Senate Committee chaired by Tim Wirth of Colorado.
I declared with 99% confidence, that it was time to stop waffling:Earth was being affected by human-made greenhouse gases, and the planet had entered period of long term warming.
Combined with an unusually hot and dry summer and the attention global warming was getting nationally and internationally, my announcement garnered broad notice.
It soon became apparent, though, that my testimony, combined with the weather, was creating a misimpression.
Global warming does increase the intensity of droughts and heat waves, and thus the area of forest fires.
However because a warmer atmosphere holds more water vapour, global warming must also increase the intensity of the other extreme of the hydrologic cycle- meaning heavier rains, more extreme floods, and more intense storms driven by latent heat, including thunderstorms, tornadoes, and tropical storms.
I realised that I should have emphasised more strongly that both extremes increase with global warming…..”
Observational data discredits high confidence in extreme weather events as claimed by Hansen and as AR 5 and draft WG1 of AR 6 disclose.
Was this the beginning of the end of global warming and the birth of “climate change”?

Jim Gorman
Reply to  Herbert
January 7, 2022 6:37 am

He forgot to mention more sleet, ice, and snow! That obviously doesn’t fit the narrative!

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Herbert
January 7, 2022 6:46 am

When your pet hypothesis is supposedly the cause of everything, even things diametrically opposed to one another, the reality is that it is shown to be the cause of nothing.

January 6, 2022 11:25 pm

Here in Brisbane it has been a cool, soggy, December, and now we are moving into a cool, soggy, January. Just as the Climate Council said. (Or might have said.) This proves that we are doomed from Man Made Global Warming Climate Change

Tom Abbott
Reply to  RoHa
January 7, 2022 3:22 am

Yet the authors keep talking about how hot Australia is, and claim this excess heat is what is driving the climate, but it seems in the real world this is not the case. Do the temperature data mannipulators in Australia ever go outside?

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 7, 2022 6:13 am

Only for at most one hour each day 🙂

January 7, 2022 12:58 am

But t is what global warming climate change has always meant.
Rain is rainier.
Sun is sunnier.
Wet is wetter and dry is drier.
Hot is hotter and cold is colder.
Snow is snowier.
No snow is no snowier.
Ice is icier.
Drought is droughtier.
Floods are floodier.
Storms are stormier.
The planet is greener and that’s bad somehow.

And most importantly,
Dumb is dumber.

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
Reply to  Phil Salmon
January 7, 2022 6:31 am

This gem from Christopher Monckton should bring a chuckle — a modernized version of the classic “Vicar of Bray”:

And this is law that I’ll maintain: my forecasts you shall cite, sir,

For, hot or cold or drought or rain, my model’s always right, sir.

Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
January 7, 2022 9:51 am

Yes iambic meter and rhyming make it catchier

January 7, 2022 1:09 am

Tim F doesn’t understand forest hydrology in southern Aus. In many forests, growth is limited by water availability. The trees take as much water as they get their roots into, because the trees with access to the most water grow faster as they “spend” water by transpiration to get as much CO2 as possible. Any water left over, after the trees have had their go at it, may discharge into streams and then may be caught in dams. Catchment water yields are commonly less than 10% of total rainfall. It is analogous to profit in commercial enterprise, and the margins in forest water yield are very small.
If rainfall declines by only 5% (a small decline in corporate revenue), and the profit margin was initially only 8% of rainfall “revenue”, profit declines by 63%. The trees keep pulling as much water out as they can.

Recent research in southern Western Australia indicates that most of the 20th century was an unusually wet period within the last 700 years. The recent declines of about 10% in rainfall in that part of the world appear to be a return to normal. But we built our dams in the 20th century, thinking rainfall would never decline, so now the dams don’t fill like they used to. We desalinate nearly half our water and use the dams to store it for the Mediterranean climate summer drought. We adapt.

In other parts of southern Australia, there are massive floods and droughts. The weather in the south-east of Australia (the most populous part) has always been some of the most variable on the planet, hence the common phrase from our history – “a land of droughts and flooding rains”. For a palaeontologist, Tim F seems to have limited interest history.

Jim Turner
January 7, 2022 4:23 am

It seems that an increase in global mean temperature invariably correlates with adverse outcomes. There are two ways to explain this: either negative outcomes and temperature are linearly related, in which case colder temperatures should see a reduction in adverse events, or the pre-industrial temperature lies at the bottom of a local or global minimum, and deviation in either direction results in adverse outcomes. How credible are either of these hypotheses? Neither seem very credible to me, there is of course a third possibility – adverse outcomes are a poorly defined metric and things are not actually getting worse.

Andy Pattullo
January 7, 2022 6:53 am

Climate change is public relations for the Apocalypse.

Michael in Dublin
January 7, 2022 8:21 am

We were told that the central areas of South Africa were going to become hotter and drier. After heavy rains the fourth largest dam, the Vaal Dam, is at 110%, with flooding expected downstream from the open sluices.

This again illustrates what I keep saying, we do not have a climate problem but a people problem: people who fail to take advantage of flooding to help in times of drought. If we used our resources that are wasted on trying to engineer climate to adapting and benefiting from climate conditions we would reap handsome rewards.

Timo, not that one
January 7, 2022 9:46 am

“Just remember folks, climate change is settled science. The miracle molecule can cause permanent drought and more intense rainfall, all right at the same time.”
Next thing you know, we’ll have catastrophic mildness.

Kevin McNeill
January 7, 2022 10:28 am

First, Tim Flannery, now, flim flammery.

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