From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
DECEMBER 28, 2021
By Paul Homewood
Curiously there are still a few numpties who read the Guardian:
Climate change over the next 20 years could result in a global catastrophe costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters..
A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a ‘Siberian’ climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.
The document predicts that abrupt climate change could bring the planet to the edge of anarchy as countries develop a nuclear threat to defend and secure dwindling food, water and energy supplies. The threat to global stability vastly eclipses that of terrorism, say the few experts privy to its contents.
‘Disruption and conflict will be endemic features of life,’ concludes the Pentagon analysis. ‘Once again, warfare would define human life.’
The findings will prove humiliating to the Bush administration, which has repeatedly denied that climate change even exists. Experts said that they will also make unsettling reading for a President who has insisted national defence is a priority.
The report was commissioned by influential Pentagon defence adviser Andrew Marshall, who has held considerable sway on US military thinking over the past three decades. He was the man behind a sweeping recent review aimed at transforming the American military under Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
Climate change ‘should be elevated beyond a scientific debate to a US national security concern’, say the authors, Peter Schwartz, CIA consultant and former head of planning at Royal Dutch/Shell Group, and Doug Randall of the California-based Global Business Network.
An imminent scenario of catastrophic climate change is ‘plausible and would challenge United States national security in ways that should be considered immediately’, they conclude. As early as next year widespread flooding by a rise in sea levels will create major upheaval for millions.
Last week the Bush administration came under heavy fire from a large body of respected scientists who claimed that it cherry-picked science to suit its policy agenda and suppressed studies that it did not like. Jeremy Symons, a former whistleblower at the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), said that suppression of the report for four months was a further example of the White House trying to bury the threat of climate change.
Senior climatologists, however, believe that their verdicts could prove the catalyst in forcing Bush to accept climate change as a real and happening phenomenon. They also hope it will convince the United States to sign up to global treaties to reduce the rate of climatic change.
A group of eminent UK scientists recently visited the White House to voice their fears over global warming, part of an intensifying drive to get the US to treat the issue seriously. Sources have told The Observer that American officials appeared extremely sensitive about the issue when faced with complaints that America’s public stance appeared increasingly out of touch.
One even alleged that the White House had written to complain about some of the comments attributed to Professor Sir David King, Tony Blair’s chief scientific adviser, after he branded the President’s position on the issue as indefensible.
Among those scientists present at the White House talks were Professor John Schellnhuber, former chief environmental adviser to the German government and head of the UK’s leading group of climate scientists at the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research. He said that the Pentagon’s internal fears should prove the ‘tipping point’ in persuading Bush to accept climatic change.
Sir John Houghton, former chief executive of the Meteorological Office – and the first senior figure to liken the threat of climate change to that of terrorism – said: ‘If the Pentagon is sending out that sort of message, then this is an important document indeed.’
Bob Watson, chief scientist for the World Bank and former chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, added that the Pentagon’s dire warnings could no longer be ignored.
‘Can Bush ignore the Pentagon? It’s going be hard to blow off this sort of document. Its hugely embarrassing. After all, Bush’s single highest priority is national defence. The Pentagon is no wacko, liberal group, generally speaking it is conservative. If climate change is a threat to national security and the economy, then he has to act. There are two groups the Bush Administration tend to listen to, the oil lobby and the Pentagon,’ added Watson.
‘You’ve got a President who says global warming is a hoax, and across the Potomac river you’ve got a Pentagon preparing for climate wars. It’s pretty scary when Bush starts to ignore his own government on this issue,’ said Rob Gueterbock of Greenpeace.
Already, according to Randall and Schwartz, the planet is carrying a higher population than it can sustain. By 2020 ‘catastrophic’ shortages of water and energy supply will become increasingly harder to overcome, plunging the planet into war. They warn that 8,200 years ago climatic conditions brought widespread crop failure, famine, disease and mass migration of populations that could soon be repeated.
Randall told The Observer that the potential ramifications of rapid climate change would create global chaos. ‘This is depressing stuff,’ he said. ‘It is a national security threat that is unique because there is no enemy to point your guns at and we have no control over the threat.’
Randall added that it was already possibly too late to prevent a disaster happening. ‘We don’t know exactly where we are in the process. It could start tomorrow and we would not know for another five years,’ he said.
‘The consequences for some nations of the climate change are unbelievable. It seems obvious that cutting the use of fossil fuels would be worthwhile.’
So dramatic are the report’s scenarios, Watson said, that they may prove vital in the US elections. Democratic frontrunner John Kerry is known to accept climate change as a real problem. Scientists disillusioned with Bush’s stance are threatening to make sure Kerry uses the Pentagon report in his campaign.
The fact that Marshall is behind its scathing findings will aid Kerry’s cause. Marshall, 82, is a Pentagon legend who heads a secretive think-tank dedicated to weighing risks to national security called the Office of Net Assessment. Dubbed ‘Yoda’ by Pentagon insiders who respect his vast experience, he is credited with being behind the Department of Defence’s push on ballistic-missile defence.
Symons, who left the EPA in protest at political interference, said that the suppression of the report was a further instance of the White House trying to bury evidence of climate change. ‘It is yet another example of why this government should stop burying its head in the sand on this issue.’
Symons said the Bush administration’s close links to high-powered energy and oil companies was vital in understanding why climate change was received sceptically in the Oval Office. ‘This administration is ignoring the evidence in order to placate a handful of large energy and oil companies,’ he added.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver
No wonder the Guardian is in such dire straits. Apparently I am one of their top readers globally, having read 64 articles this year!
It does not benefit a prophet to be too specific. The Jehovah’s Witnesses, and apparently the green blob, are pretty much the only groups to name a date repeatedly and still survive.
The most important lesson in Climate Science:
Never make an unfounded assertion on a
timeline that expires before you do.
My notes say that’s attributed to Bob Kutz here at WUWT in 2018
ha, makes me think of the film, The Blob, which came out in ’58- which is probably when I saw it- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blob
a quote from that web page, “…It envelops everything in its path….” just like wind and solar farms!
I’ve seen this said several times, so I decided to do the right thing and research and prove. It was never the official stance of the Jehovah’s Witness organization that the end would come at a specific date. The official position is that they won’t know until it happens. What did happen was several people jumped to conclusions in the 1970’s sometime based on what was published in one of their Watchtower magazines. I researched several months ago, so I forgot what year it was and many exact details. But I have seen some of their members claim a certain date, even though it isn’t the official view of the organization.
Also, in 1914, their spiritual leader (and legal president of the religious organization) made a proclamation that the “Gentile times have ended”. I also forgot the exact day, but the view was Jesus Christ began to rule in heaven in 1914. A bunch of them went to one of the bridges in New York and expected to be called to heaven. Didn’t happen, of course. But 1914 was the start of World War I, so they were right about something happening that year.
I didn’t want to fall in the trap that the CAGW believers do, that is to say belief without proof. I could be getting some details mixed up, but I do know that for the past 2 decades for certain the official stance by the organization is that the end is close, but they just don’t know when. I forgot when, but one of their recent articles meant for their members clearly stated the idea that just because you think this a signal for the end to start does not make it so. All I remember from my research a few months ago was that article was within the past 5 years.
Research and prove. Examine all sides with an open mind. That is why I was skeptical of COVID-19 from the very beginning. That is why I don’t believe in catastrophic AGW, but do believe there is some AGW. That is why I decided to look into this issue with Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Of course, everyone at every point in history has felt the end times were “close”.
…and of course the “end times” come for everyone on the date of their death.
I used to be one, so I’ve experienced this firsthand. Armageddon will be here any day now, so don’t make any long-term plans. Every bit of dire news is more evidence that the end is nigh. Get baptised ASAP or else.
The sad thing is, most of the older JW’s thought that Armageddon would happen in their lifetime. One of the most popular booklets was entitled Many Now Living Will Never Die…
Fortunately I realised it was a load of hairy old bollocks in my late teens and have been an atheist ever since. Fool me once…
The End is Nye 😉
Also remember that WW1 only started in 1917 for the USA.
7th Day Adventists did it twice starting in the early 1830’s
This needs to be thrust back in the faces of any Guardianista whenever they post about CAGW on the Graun’s comments section (often referred to as “Komment Macht Frei” due to their fascistic censorious mods)
This is why you stay off those platforms and go to those with more “freedom.”
I still laugh that Twitter bans Trump but not the current Resident.
Twitter still allows nut-pot muslim fundamentalists to post warmongering twaddle on their platform. Twitter is beyond daft.
Twitter panders to traffic, not sure if trafficking pander… Oh, that’s TikTok….
The best way to draw more traffic is to shut down some of your biggest sources. This is the same “logic” that believes that you can substitute unreliable energy for safe, cheap, reliable fuels.
The twit-anyone think it might now be useful to relabel it the twit? just for effect. The only problem I can see is typing the W.
There is some good amongst the garbage people put on Twitter the useful posts are greatly outnumbered.
Not sure about the UK being plunged into a Siberian climate; it’s currently 16 C here in London. Before I went out this morning I put my winter coat on out of habit and now I’m sweating one out.
I’m waiting for a thermaggedonist to scream about global warming because of the unusual weather.
Dickens wrote A Christmas Carol in 1842 and 1843. Ironically, both those Decembers were 2 of the warmest on record. It was his early childhood at the tail end of the LIA that gave the young Dickens his impression of freezing British winters that were so effective in his later book
How many climate related catastrophes did I survive? I quit counting a while back as the academic/science crowd kept changing their babblings of what was gonna destroy us all.
The CAGW folks fit right in there with the broadcast weather predictors. Only worse, cuz they are never right. So far.
“ …the academic/science crowd kept changing
their babblings of what was gonna destroy us all.“
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It’s never ending. For some reason I Googled “Sugar Beets” and didn’t one of the top hits not only tell me about how bad sugar is for you, but went on to say that the cultivation of the beets damages the soil.
Sounds like you somehow got redirected to one of Peta’s comments
ROFL! I was thinking the exact same thing!
All of them. The answer is all of them.
Your diligence is certainly commendable.
l remember around 6 years ago l had to call out the Guardian in their comments page. They made a BS claim that global warming had lead to a decline in the NH snow cover extent. They thought they would be able to getaway with it, because most people would have expected a decline in snow cover with warming.
Well this was one area of climate l had a keen interest in, so l knew how to call their claim out.
l pointed out to them the data and graphs on Rutgers snow lab and Google Arctic Sea Ice page that showed their claim was only true if it was confined it to the Spring extent and not overall extent of the NH snow cover.They were trying to claim.
How many nanoseconds did they allow your comment to stay up?
To be fair to them they allowed my comment to remain.
But afterwards they only made the same claim just one more time and showed the spring snow extent to try and prove it. After that it was quietly dropped.
It is good to hear that at least one of the alarmist outlets can experience embarrassment at being caught lying.
I love reading the Guardian, I even voluntarily pay them £5.00 per month. It is the polar opposite of The Daily Mail and the Daily Telegraph. The former is free, paid for via advertising I assume. The latter are always trying to get me to sign up for £1.00 for 3 months after I finished a 3 month free trial. The Guardian is the go to paper to read about people who feel guilty about absolutely everything. Lots of handwringing! Also great to catch up on the latest Climate-related Doomsday scenarios. The Guardian have obviously thrown all there money into backing the AGW horse!
The Guardian has £1 billion stashed in the Cayman Islands. You really shouldn’t pay them anything at all.
The Guardian backs the wrong horse every single time.
The Guardian is flogging a dead horse backing AGW
Well, Britain has the Grauniad, Daily Mail, Sun.
Germany has Bild – a Daily Mail retread. Asked why Chancellor Kohl checked Bild every morning, he replied he wanted to know what voters were reading.
Not sure if the Grauniad realizes why anyone checks it….
The U.S. list is longer than you can imagine and it includes media groups (NBC/MSNBC) that routinely supply top hires of the favored, incoming administration. Others are dependent on Party-line spending on their platforms in a pay-to-play arrangement. Now we have bad online actors like Facebook taking sides to play defense with regulators to protect their business model and growth strategy.
You have to admit, when it comes to making up clickbait headlines, nobody can beat the Grauniad…
I guess that is the survival strategy in the pay-to-play tabloid world of anything goes to sell a copy or ad–viewer intelligence is out the window in that equation. Another way to look at it is they represent the survival of the “fittest” in upside down world.
it’s usually to find out who died last few days….
For dropping dead the Gruaniad is first class, maybe they even do it deliberately to claim how valuable is their readership while constantly sticking out their had for more dosh in the name of what?
“journalism”! WTF!
That’s a lifetime in dog “journalism” years and unfortunately also in agenda science years and political science win-the-day tactical positioning years.
Wouldn´t “Three Years Till The Pentagon’s Global Climate Catastrophe” be a better headline?
I need to put The End Of The World As We Know It on my calendar (yes, women and minorities hardest hit).
I wouldn’t want to be out mowing the lawn or washing the car when it happens and miss it.
Children and children’s children even more so, but they’re too young to vote (unless the demoRats can successfully lower the voting age to about 5).
That reminds me of something I can’t quite put my finger on, phil. Just exactly how does not having any children Save The Planet for the children?
No matter how I do the math, it just doesn’t add up.
Because even if many people decide not to have children, there will still be children born into the world.
Spencer’s First Law is that the number of children a couple has tends to be at least n+1, where n is the number planned on. The world is full of surprises!
We will always have children as long as sex is more popular than dying.
Would that be any different from a recent immigrant whose command of English and reading comprehension is on a par with a 5-year old?
Women and minorities hardest hit – YES they bang that drum daily, OMG they always tack that on to the doom and gloom BS, hilarious!
‘Bob Watson, chief scientist for the World Bank and former chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, added that the Pentagon’s dire warnings could no longer be ignored.’
I am on pension now. For long years I worked on projects as a team member responsible for sections of the project from conception to handover. If I had calculated wrongly the project time of one single project, I would have been booted out and would not have been employed by others on any project whatsoever except to clean toilets.
So, why was Bob Watson and others like him, never demoted or sacked?
When one is at the top, one cannot fail upward.
I’m not saying that conclusion is necessarily false in my case, but my excuse is adherence to the good old “Know thine enemy” adage, and I’m sticking to it …
NB : The “censorship” of my posts there is variable (on average over 50% stay up), and often seems to be guided by individual moderator interpretations of the “off topic” and “don’t attack the (guest) author(s)” clauses in their “Community Standards” list.
Note also, however, that “attack” is often equated with “disagree with / point out egregious errors / link to concrete counter-examples / …” though.
Yes. From the Grauniad’s point of view, I’m one of their “top international readers.” Well above Paul Homewood. But whatever their view about politically contentious issues, they can actually deliver some decent journalism occasionally. Like this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/23/if-omicron-is-the-dominant-variant-in-uk-why-is-the-number-of-confirmed-cases-so-low. And they don’t charge you for it!
As to commenting at their site, I was once told by a very wise man, “Don’t try to talk to your enemies. Talk about them.”
Commendable but I’m not sure how you do it. The Age (Sydney Morning Herald sister paper) is Australia’s Guardian. I was reading it about ten years ago because of the cryptic crosswords. It got to the stage where I did the puzzles, read the sport then dumped the paper. It was a little extravagant but I was getting a free paper with my Starbucks coffee. Then I couldn’t even read the sport because it’s leftwing activism infiltrated it. Living in Melbourne, it wasn’t even worth choosing Starbucks over one of many better places for a cuppa.
PS found a stash of the old the crosswords online.
There are other things in the Graun than “Environment –> Climate Change” articles (see my response to griff below).
Also, as others have noted, like your “The Age” reading it’s free (I stopped looking at the Telegraph[.co.uk] site after they paywalled it, while the Independent stopped working with my browser for some obscure technical reason).
Notably “Thursday” = “Weekly quiz day”, while every other Monday is “Alex Bellos’s Puzzle day”.
While not a sports fan myself, “Tuesday” is still “Squires day”.
Winter temperatures over land are a real problem for people who don’t see the impact of solar activity on the winter polar vortex.
What is that blob of heat in the north west Great Plains?
Did the Wyoming caldera explode and I missed it?
There will probably be some moisture in the atmosphere.
By 2020 ‘catastrophic’ shortages of water and energy supply will become increasingly harder to overcome, plunging the planet into war.
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That Guardian article will be 18 years old in February. The energy crisis in Europe is a product of the continent’s governments, not climate. The crisis is not global. Is access to clean water any more of a global problem today than it was in 2004?
One thing I’ve noticed in my observation of cults in YouTube videos is that the cult remains credible with their believers even after their doomsday prediction dates have past with no doomsday event showing up. The Westboro Baptist Church people in Kansas have been prognosticating the USA’s doom since at least 2009.
The worst thing about being in a cult is not knowing you are in one. It’s unfortunate that the Jonestown cult members found this out too late when they were made to drink the kool-aid.
Whenever I (rarely) get into an argument about “climate” I force them to use CAGW. They absolutely hate it because they know their argument is emotion based, not observation based. It is CAGW that is the problem, not “climate”. And to think we will destroy our energy security over a Marxist-inspired fantasy/belief system is mind-boggling.
No mention of the additional funds the Pentagon thought they might need to deal with all of this mayhem?
given the general political stance of Watts readers, the Guardian is only going to upset you.
Just stop reading it!
But why Griff?
The Guardian has replaced the funny pages in the newspapers.
I go there every morning to start my day with a good laugh.
Same it’s like the onion but without trying to be.
We worry about the mental health of UK readers in the same way we worry about the Muslims in slave labor camps in western China making green products/components for Europe and Afghans just trying to survive day to day.
Exactly right: rational, intelligent people should not read a leftist rag like the Guardian! Leave that distasteful task to people like griff.
“ the Guardian is only going to upset you.”
It gives the mentally vulnerable climate anxiety. That’s upsetting people, is it not?
Our household receives The Weekly Guardian, usually 2 – 4 weeks late and often damaged (USPS commentary?). My wife likes to work the crossword puzzle. We do get a good laugh out of some of the articles.
But why? As that article so wonderfully illustrates, they “follow the incontrovertible science,” right?
Griffy-poo,
If fossil fuel usage upsets you so much, then just stop using and contributing to the demand for them. And tell all of your like-minded friends to do so too. Don’t wait for the U.K. and world govts to outlaw them, it will probably take too long.
Lead by example.
given the general political stance of you, griff, Watts Up With That is only going to upset you.
Just stop reading it!
He doesn’t read it. He’s write-only.
It’s not the political stance, it’s the inclination and ability to read for comprehension.
What’s political about ridiculing a paper that is so consistently wrong?
plonkers and narcissits like you, will never get good old fashioned humour.
Sounds like you never studied English in school, otherwise the great British farce tradition easily dates back 500yrs, Shakespeare being one of the past masters.
Perhaps you should have played Bottom / the donkey in a mid summer night’s dream, it would have suited you perfectly.
The BTL sections on the Guardian website are collectively known as “Comment is Free”, or “CiF” for short.
Amongst human behaviouralists (allegedly …) there is a lot of evidence for people who are fixated on a single facet of some complex subject, for which they came up with the term “Single-Issue Fanatic”, or “SIF”.
People who post about their favourite hobby-horse at the Graun (repeatedly and/or at length), can therefore be called “CiF SIFs”.
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You may well be surprised to learn that the Graun actually posts articles other than those about “(extreme) weather events” !
For example, John Crace and Marina Hyde are writers with a “satirical / ironic / cynical” touch (which appeals greatly to me personally), and anything that makes you laugh (out loud or internally) in the face of the random vagaries of what is over-simplified as “life” or “the human condition” is to be welcomed with open arms.
While not a “sporty” person myself, David Squires cartoon each Tuesday — which is nominally about football (/ soccer) — counts as “required reading” for me for the same reason.
Martin Belam’s “Weekly quiz” each Thursday is light-hearted, with several jokes included each week, and I always “have a go” even though my average score is usually on the order of 4 or 5 (out of 15, but without guessing).
Every other Monday Alex Bellos has a “Puzzle” article, which is usually “interesting” (even if it’s more often than not “seeing the trick” rather than “intellectually challenging”).
It’s also one of the few “broadsheet / mainstream” UK-based media websites that’s still free (not paywalled).
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There are indeed other things in life (and the pages of the Guardian) than [C]AGW.
Alarmist, heal thy self.
The funniest thing about the Grauniad this year was their online contest for The Guardian Person of the Year
They deactivated it when it became clear that JK Rowling had won!
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/12/29/guardian-person-of-the-year-poll-deactivated-after-j-k-rowling-takes-lead/
If they can’t be honest about that….
That is really good.
Rowling is correct of course
No wonder they have a problem with democracy, they can’t rig the outcome.
John Taylor: slave trader and founder of the Guardian
Just sayin’
Gawd strewth. I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you. I’ll never read the Grauniad again……….
Climate change ‘should be elevated beyond a scientific debate to a US national security concern’…
Space aliens, witches, ghosts, and most especially the Flying Spaghetti Monster should also be elevated beyond a scientific debate to a US national security concern. Because who needs science?
Can you explain what you mean by “No wonder the Guardian is in such dire straits.”? They seem to be adequately financed by a Trust and have significant readers. My personal opinion aside, is there objective evidence that they are in “dire straits?”
look it up in wikipedia..
Thank you for the reply. I had, however, read wikipedia prior to my initial comment. Wikipedia confirms my negative view of the Guardian but I saw nothing objective to support the “dire straits” comments. I assumed that the original comments was based on something specific that I am missing. As I understand the Guardian has secure funding, they have a message, and readership is of little interest to them.
Hope all have a Happy New Year!
Their daily readership is only slightly higher than that of The Daily Record, an obscure down-market rag for Scottish neds.(Apologies to those North of the Border).
The Guardian has gone through multiple rounds of redundancies over the past decade as it racked up annual losses in excess of £20m, peaking at £57m in 2015/16 and with total losses since the financial crash of 2008/9 approaching £300m.
In 2020 the Guardian cut approx 20% of their employees due to financial losses and scrap its Weekend, The Guide, Review and Travel print supplements from its Saturday edition.
It still has almost £1b in the trust fund but it can’t continue to make big losses and survive
Redge, Dec 31, 3:30am:
Thank you; now that is information I can use. I write letters for local consumption and have found that unsubstantiated throwaway comments are a quick way to lose credibility. Climate will always change and however people and governments respond will ultimately be decided by objective numbers, not subjective comments.
Happy New Years to all,
PMH
It’s worth pointing out that a large portion of The Guardian‘s daily sales are to the BBC for its staff. Without those guaranteed sales the circulation figures would be even worse.
The “Pentagon” didn’t write this climate scaremongering, it was a contractor or two who came up with claiming climate change is a national security issue.
Not many in the Pentagon believed in this stuff back when it was written. Not sure about now, after a couple of decades of climate change propaganda.
At any rate, whoever made the predictions 18 years ago is going to be proven wrong.
“The fact that Marshall is behind its scathing findings will aid Kerry’s cause.”
It certainly didn’t aid Kerry’s cause enough.
The Pentagon commissions scenarios where the US goes to war with Canada including outcomes where Canada wins. This is a good practice as it forces planners to reduce the vast gray area of unknowns and unknown unknowns.
My God! Sixty-four articles is more than one article per week. How can you bring yourself to read the Grauniad weekly? Are you some kind of masochist?
Earth or dog years?
Dog years on Earth.
Well, the Guardian got it right about the rioting. The problem is that it’s their fellow travelers doing the maming, killing, burning, and looting.
I for one agree you need to follow what the enemy is saying to understand how to fight back.
It’s why I force myself to watch the CBC news network.
Wait. I thought the Earth was unsustainable at present and that the world’s human population needs to be reduced. So wars and disasters that eliminate millions is a good thing, no?
You read it so we don’t have to.
(an oldie but a goodie)
I’m surprised sometimes at how easily the good folks who read WUWT get distracted and led off into the wilderness. The Guardian is a mere distraction, the Baghdad Bob of British journalism. The real worry is the stinking gaggle of bottom feeders connected with the Pentagon who wrote and promoted this trash, the clueless and unaccountable administrators and bureaucrats who enabled and pushed this garbage.
“I’m surprised sometimes at how easily the good folks who read WUWT get distracted and led off into the wilderness”
I agree, especially those who keep wanting Griff to show up, just so another thread can be derailed.
A bit like a fly being attracted to excreta.
Not sure what response that should garner – pity for just doing dumb things or admiration for doing the hard yards that others are not willing to do.
I have learnt not to click on Guardian links. However they are much less frequent using DDG as the search engine.
Anyone that has been following the CAGW/Climate Change, Climate Weirding stuff for years knows the program by heart.
For example, who here did not expect the annual doomsday spiel about the Antarctic Ice Shelve about the break off to come out again about this time as it always does, year after year? They really are pathetic.
Doomsday glacier: Experts raise alarms about cracking Antarctic ice shelf.
MSN
64 articles? that’s impressive masochism.
I will check to see if The Guardian article here is listed at extinctionclock.org
That has a fairly comprehensive list of predictions of catastrophe since 1970 which have failed to eventuate.