Death Threats, Socialist Resonance, and Other Weird Progress on the Energy Road


December 8, 20217:00 AM Terry Etam

It’s time to turn over a new leaf. Maybe it’s the spirit of the season, maybe it’s delirium from a third vaccination (tip: just wander into a little pharmacy and ask for one, they’re happy to inject anything), or maybe it’s the turning tide in the energy world. At any rate, despite what the news might tell you, there is a converging energy harmony taking place that is good news indeed. But getting there to investigate is a dangerous journey.

People ask if the crazies that attack hydrocarbon-respecting energy commentators are annoying or bothersome, but they’re not. I don’t read comments; I used to, and recognized a few familiar voices that doggedly appear week after week to crap on everything. The only emotion I could muster was pity – what a way to spend your life, determinedly following something that drives you crazy. 

One bout of feedback did get my attention though in kind of a weak death-threat-y kind of way. Years ago I defended Rachel Notley in a column (not even a full comrade hug, just a counter to ludicrous notions I’d heard blaming her for all the oil patch’s woes, many of which built up under previous governments). Some people equate recognition of anything good by an ‘enemy’ as an act of war, and one not-cheerful reader’s feathers were so ruffled that he volunteered to come strangle me. 

I bring up that happy memory as fair warning to that unhinged person and any similar: today we (at least temporarily) link arms with both an international socialist publication and a self-declared member of the “climate left”, because, believe it or not, on the energy file there is some substantial common ground. 

Before disbelieving your eyes and/or putting on your strangling gloves, hear me out. From an energy perspective, the story is a very good one indeed. 

First up is the socialist site Jacobin, which is almost a breath of fresh air compared to the attention-seeking brainless dervish that is the modern media stream – they (Jacobin) state who they are, why they are there, and their vision for the future. That vision is to me maniacal and destructive and mortifying, but they are at least honest about it. Furthermore, the clarity of their stance allows them to dispassionately comment on the energy scene in a way that mainstream media now finds itself unable to do.

recent article in Jacobin entitled ‘The Problem With Alice Waters and the “Slow Food” Movement’ took Ms. Waters to task for her disdain for mass-produced food: “Waters’ food politics is the politics not of the people, in the way that the old left defined it, but rather of…the professional-managerial class (PMC). The PMC sought to differentiate itself from the working class through cultural ideas, even as many of its members also embraced egalitarian cultural values and identified themselves as champions of the less fortunate…slow food is not actually the most environmentally friendly or climate-conscious choice…the primary reason that Big Ag in places like the United States accounts for so much environmental harm is because it accounts for the vast majority of agricultural output and land use.”

This is the very argument some of us have been making for years about Canada’s high per capita emissions – when you are the agricultural, mineral, and energy pantry for the world, there is a not immaterial environmental footprint involved. “Damaging to the environment” is also a conditional or consequential term – is the ‘damage to the environment’ caused by a mine or a pipeline more or less offset by the benefits to humanity of the product? Would you trade in your cell phone or your heat to prevent such damage? 

Let’s tie that to the energy scene in a crystal clear way via a Twitter quote from self-identified ‘climate & anti-pollution activist’ Chris Keefer: “This is an absolutely bonkers fact. Germany attempts to block African fossil fuel energy infrastructure development while shutting down its carbon-free nuclear fleet and burning coal and mainlining even more Russian gas.” More than a few of us energy commentators have been saying the exact same thing for a very long time. 

Now let’s hear from a self-identified member of the ‘climate left’ that sounds like it came right from the hydrocarbon industry itself (the entire article didn’t, but what did, really did). In an article for the Breakthrough Institute entitled ‘Blue Collars, Green Jobs?’ the author examines how the climate-cultural elite dismissed concerns of unionized workers in California that object to the Green New Deal.  

What is pertinent to the energy scene is this example/comment from the article (among others): “The Green New Deal leaves out technological climate solutions that the sector has been advancing for decades. The resolution introducing the deal ‘is not rooted in an engineering-based approach and makes promises that are not achievable or realistic.’” Who are these geniuses and where have they been hiding?

The article takes some swipes at the hydrocarbon industry, as is to be expected from an author self-identifying as the climate left, but that is ok – the overarching message is so important that the jabs pale in comparison: “Furthermore, it is precisely because industrial workers and farmers are embedded within the very energy, transport, manufacturing, extractive, and agricultural sectors most relevant to decarbonization…that they know perhaps better than anyone why decarbonization is so difficult. They are able to hold in their head both that carbon-intensive companies have worked hard to delay climate action and that fossil fuels have historically delivered tremendous benefits to humanity. It is not merely obvious to them that coal has kept people warm in winter and powered the factories that built the modern world, but this is something they are proud of. That is to say, distinct from the dominant climate left narrative of global warming as a product of elite corruption or capitalism…the industrial worker’s understanding of the problem is clear: …[Greenhouse gas] emissions are the unintended consequence of the technologies that well-meaning people depend upon in their everyday lives.”

The climate left author even takes Greta to task for pushing to limit or eliminate air travel, because her option is cavorting in a multimillion-dollar racing yacht to attend climate protests.

Welcome to 2021, where nothing makes sense at all. Or does it? 

Actually, these developments are fantastic news. The above articles and opinions are the best thing to hit the energy/climate debate in a decade. Reality is sinking in here, there, and everywhere. 

These public musings from the other side of the political spectrum are profoundly important, because they break down the wall of energy insanity we’ve been facing, the narratives that hydrocarbons are killing us all and that survival depends on their eradication as fuel source.

I’m not going to sit here and defend socialism – philosophically I don’t want to defend it, and pragmatically I don’t want any beatings – but it is only fair to point out that the socialists do indeed have the interests of the working man and downtrodden at heart (as in, defending Africa’s right to energy progress as above, and I repeat: “Germany attempts to block African fossil fuel energy infrastructure development while shutting down its carbon free nuclear fleet and burning coal and mainlining even more Russian gas.”).

Germany isn’t alone. founder Bill McKibben has said he is pleased to see the climate change fight move beyond the environment to social justice. But then McKibben, who lives in the hyper-wealthy US northeast, has the cajones to pen an article entitled “Let’s heed the UN’s dire warning and stop the east African oil pipeline now.”

Who does that? What sort of person thinks that sort of colonialism is acceptable anymore? Even Marxists that believe climate change is a terrible threat are scratching their heads.

These diehard activists, the bewildered/coerced western governments that obey their commands, and the hapless media are becoming isolated on islands where their renewable-centric rhetoric has a shrinking audience. Even CNN has been questioning whether the cultural, college-educated elite that forms their viewership is perhaps coming across as ‘annoying, offensive, and out of touch.’

The far-left-of-center comments quoted above from Jacobin and the Breakthrough Institute are important because they break the artificial divide, the one we’ve been forced to live with for a decade, the phoney divide that a battle against climate change is a political issue. It is not. It is a plumbing issue, metaphorically speaking.

Our current energy system was developed over the past 150 years into a global network that will take many, many decades to rewire, even if there was a fully incentivized population and business community.29dk2902l

We don’t have either of those. We have a population that loves its comfort items, and a business community that has to deal with the incredibly challenging realities of actually building stuff. Building a few hundred miles of new transmission lines is a decade-long adventure; don’t let anyone tell you they can build several hundred thousand miles in our lifetimes (that’s just the US).

The world as we know it has a few givens, among them: developing people want to develop, and they won’t be stopped. Wealthy western nations have the time and money to devote to new technologies that will ultimately rewire the energy world, but the measly half-billion people in that rich west will not dictate to the other 7 billion how they must live. Not any more.

An energy transition is not the enemy of hydrocarbons, no matter what demons the cliques conjure to tell you otherwise. An energy transition will flow out of the existing system, if and only if that system continues to meet the needs of all the world’s people.

Comrades, good to see you some common sense alignment on the energy file. Peace is going to break out everywhere as the world learns about energy (probably the hard way).

Let’s keep an eye on those weirdos, make sure they don’t stomp on the little guy/gal. About all that other stuff…would love to stick around and chat, but let’s just call it a day and get out while the gettin’s good. See ya.

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Read more insightful analysis from Terry Etam here, or email Terry here. PS: Dear email correspondents, the email flow is wonderful and welcome, however I am having trouble keeping up. In past I replied to everything but am getting stretched. Apologies if comments/questions go unanswered; they are not ignored.

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Tom Halla
December 8, 2021 6:08 pm

The major problem with this post is that the green blob is beyond parody.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 8, 2021 6:26 pm

The ‘climate left’ (as if there’s any other kind) is an utter parody of itself in every way

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 8, 2021 7:51 pm

The Green New Deal details and Dementia Joe’s Build Back Socialism details are indistinguishable from the comedic parodies found in The Babylon Bee. Which is exactly why the marxists at the NYT tried last summer to get theBee kicked-off social media platforms, labeling them misinformation, they were hitting too close to the Left’s absurd sacred cows.

December 8, 2021 6:38 pm

Those on the left have a pattern of holding intentions above results.
The author goes out of his way repeatedly to declare that socialists have the interests of the “working class” at heart.
So what, the actual policies of the left destroys the working class and impoverishes everyone except the elite.

Soft hearts so often go with soft heads.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MarkW
December 9, 2021 5:01 am

Conservatives have the working people and everyone else at heart, and when they are in control, everyone thrives.

December 8, 2021 6:40 pm

Weird (unqualified) progress (i.e. monotonic): one step forward, two steps backward.

Death threats. Wicked [solution]. #HateLovesAbortion

Howard Dewhirst
December 8, 2021 6:42 pm

Particularly it must help the billion plus who do not have access to electricity, many of whom still cook indoors with wood or animal dung

December 8, 2021 7:07 pm

“An energy transition is not the enemy of hydrocarbons, no matter what demons the cliques conjure to tell you otherwise. An energy transition will flow out of the existing system, if and only if that system continues to meet the needs of all the world’s people.”

What an ass. The system DOES NOT MEET THE NEEDS OF OVER 50% of the people in the world.

But I am sure he and everyone he knows are just find with the “energy” they get when they want it, much less when they need it.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Drake
December 9, 2021 9:42 am

I’m not sure what your message is supposed to be, but the current “system” of energy development and provision is working toward providing adequate lifesaving energy to those parts of the world that lack it or are underserved. That is the result of the free market capitalistic system that provides for all human advancements in health, longevity and material wellbeing. Socialism simply allocates shortages to the common man, shortages that the ruling elite never suffer.

December 8, 2021 7:25 pm

Just a Heads Up!

For trolls and doubters of the E-Cat technology, Hello, and thanks for your constancy. It’s better than vacillation.

To others, the Dec 9, 2021 presentation on the ECatSKLed and ECat SKLep are tomorrow 9:00 AM, from Miami, on YouTube at :

I hope (and pray) that it is real.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Enginer01
December 8, 2021 7:55 pm

Do you want to bet?

Reply to  Enginer01
December 8, 2021 8:20 pm

We find out in the morning, kewl.
Allow me to conjure up a prophecy.

1) We will demonstrate to the public 1st. quarter, 2022. 2nd. quarter, For Sure.
2) An incredible investment opportunity, send money now.

We shall see. Just a note that some of us here at WUWT have been following the E-Cat for well over a decade now. It actually got some fair press here, back in the early days.

Reply to  TonyL
December 8, 2021 11:28 pm

Nailed it in one.

Roger Knights
Reply to  Enginer01
December 8, 2021 9:12 pm

Keep us posted.

Reply to  Roger Knights
December 8, 2021 11:29 pm

No post us when there is something to actually talk about.

Reply to  LdB
December 9, 2021 5:31 am

After a rocky restart (first Rutherford, the Fleischmann and Pons,) cold fusion is generally regarded as a real form of nuclear transmutation. (See .jpg.) However, Zero Point Energy is a whole, debatable, new field.

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Reply to  Enginer01
December 9, 2021 6:40 am

Regarded as real by whom? Anyone other than Rutherford, Fleischman or Pons?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  MarkW
December 9, 2021 10:26 am

To be fair, Stanford Research Institute (now just SRI) spent years and a lot of money, even in the face of criticism, and a death in the lab from an explosion, to try to understand the claimed phenomenon.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Enginer01
December 9, 2021 9:48 am

Just a question from an ignorant observer: How can a process (fusion) that produces vast sums of energy from conversion of mass (E=MC^2) be “cold?”

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Dave Fair
December 9, 2021 10:28 am

It is probably a misnomer. The attempt is to produce usable energy from a closed system starting at low temperatures instead of starting at stellar temperatures.

Reply to  Enginer01
December 8, 2021 11:28 pm

I suspect you may have to sacrifice a few more virgins and send more cash to have your prayers answered. It has long turned into a rolling joke and I doubt anyone will be surprised when more smoke and mirrors are wheeled out.

Reply to  LdB
December 9, 2021 6:41 am

How many years has this same crew been promising an open and transparent demonstration that will silence all the critics?

Reply to  Enginer01
December 9, 2021 6:39 am

If it were real, they wouldn’t have to go to the public begging for money.

PS: If you want to impress people, step one is to stop contradicting yourself.
First you label those who doubt what you are selling as “trolls and doubters”.
Second, you close of by saying you hope and pray that this is real, putting yourself square in the “doubter” camp.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Enginer01
December 9, 2021 8:31 am

Still don’t know what an “enginer” is…

Dave Fair
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
December 9, 2021 9:50 am

Well, it certainly isn’t a “physicist,” Jeff.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
December 9, 2021 10:33 am

“Six months ago I couldn’t spell enginer. Now I are one.”

Engineers and programmers are not renowned for their spelling ability. If it is pointed out to them, they typically dismiss spelling well as being unimportant.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
December 9, 2021 7:26 pm

I’ve pointed it out many times. Maybe “Enginer” is a thing, I don’t know. You’d think something that wasn’t a bot would explain.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
December 10, 2021 5:58 am

Clearly, you missed the tee shirt.

Rainer Bensch
Reply to  Enginer01
December 9, 2021 9:29 am

Rossi got out of money?

Reply to  Enginer01
December 9, 2021 12:33 pm

I, personally, was 95% disapointed in the presentation. Most unprofessional.
Yet, if the (video) numbers are real, there is something to ZPE.
This unit (ECat SKLep) needs scaling up, 100 watts is virtually useless in the grand sckeme of things energy.
(PS: Engineer01 was taken, Enginer01 was a quick decision.)

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Enginer01
December 9, 2021 7:27 pm

(PS: Engineer01 was taken, Enginer01 was a quick decision.)”

You can change it, you know.

Pat from kerbob
December 8, 2021 9:25 pm

Great article
Yes, some clearly go over the edge. Notley would be good as the leader of a centrist party as I’m unsure how much of the kool aid she has actually drank and what she believes.
But the NDP itself is a nonstarter, full of crazies.

I’m unsure if Terry is being overly optimistic but am encouraged by the sanity we are seeing in Japan, Europe and elsewhere

December 8, 2021 9:32 pm

“… stop the east African oil pipeline now …” proponents should meet this guy:

Geoff Sherrington
December 8, 2021 9:45 pm

Terry Etam,
Neat essay, thank you, but your optimism is ahead of progress for my Australia. We lag the USA and EU in adoption of harmful ideas. (However, some of the main NGOs and statutory authorities like electricity regulators are typically recruited from abroad in high, non-representative numbers).
When you turn on your TV for an entertaining movie, the chances are high that a gun will appear on screen some time before the end. This exposure of the gun helps lead to a gun culture and this evolves into a higher rate of violent gun crimes.
When you can tell me how and why the gun became so much a regular player in the age of TV, you might be able to tell me why people go down the green path despite its obvious absurdity.
I put a lot of the blame on advertising, some on education and some because a fair % of the population is not bright enough to contribute valid or useful new concepts (but some get allowed to). It’s often back to the madness of crowds. Geoff S

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
December 9, 2021 12:54 am

This exposure of the gun helps lead to a gun culture and this evolves into a higher rate of violent gun crimes.

Shhhhh! Doncha know that Americans read this blog? 😅

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 9, 2021 5:09 am

It’s not just the gun culture, it’s the “badass” culture. Everybody is a badass on tv today, men and women. Then we wonder why there is an increase in violence in society. Monkey see, monkey do.

The Leftwing Media are degenerate in every way and are very destructive to society. If they deliberately wanted to destroy our society and culture, they couldn’t do much worse than they are doing now.

And while we are on culture, I would like to put this out there:

I see a lot of “dancing” on the modern football fields today (and other sports).

It’s getting a little ridiculous and off-putting. The football dancers should get a clue and listen to Kareem. The football dancers should aspire to be the GOAT and they can start by stopping the antics and dancing after every play. It really does get tiresome to watch.

GOATS don’t dance. Keep that in mind. Act like you have been there before.

Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 9, 2021 6:47 am

A hundred or so years ago, it was very unusual for anyone not to own a gun.
Kids routinely took guns to school so that they could hunt on the way home.

Statistics show that those times were much, much more peaceful than today.
If the whines of left wingers had any basis in reality, there should have been bloodbaths in the streets on a daily basis.

It’s not guns that are causing the carnage, the percentage of people who own guns is down by a huge amount.
It is a degradation in society that has caused this carnage.

As long as you don’t target the correct cause, you can expect the problem to grow bigger.

Jeffery P
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 9, 2021 8:07 am

Here is America, we have about as many guns as people. Curiously, the trend is more guns, less crime. Lately we have a surge of violent crime in cities run by progressives, but that doesn’t affect the long-term trend (yet).

Dave Fair
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 9, 2021 10:03 am

A caricature of the Left or not, I’m an American that owns guns, knows many more Americans that own guns and knows that concealed carry gun owners are the most peaceable people in America. I also know that there are “advanced” countries that have just as high or higher rates of violence. Read information from John Lott and the Crime Prevention Research Center before you opine, Zig Zag.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Dave Fair
December 9, 2021 1:48 pm

Sheesh, you gun nuts really need to lighten up. Did you not see the laughing emoji? That makes it all ok! Here’s another: 😛

Dave Fair
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 9, 2021 2:17 pm

I see. Put a 😅 on a slur and that makes it Ok. “Gun nut” with a 😛 also makes that slur Ok. You should have zigged when you zagged.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
December 9, 2021 5:36 am

Guns are prevalent outside of Europe, but firearm homicides have jumped up in recent years even in high income countries (the US is not the leader in firearm homicides by a long shot). It might be because of TV or video games where you are killed and just hit “reset” and are alive again. As to your comment on new concepts, look at what Hollywood is putting out. Are there any original ideas? It seems to me it’s just the same story with different CGI.

Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
December 9, 2021 9:06 am

Not just the same story, but the same plots and even the same titles.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  TonyG
December 9, 2021 11:02 am

Did Westside Story really need to be redone?

Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
December 9, 2021 9:11 am

I think it was the adoption of “fantasy revenge” plots i.e. Home Alone, where children would plot and execute life threatening attack scenarios against their perceived enemies. Of course these attack scenarios are fully justified in the stories, but aren’t the attack scenarios fully justified in the minds of the perpetuators.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
December 9, 2021 10:09 am

Guns are prevalent among criminals because crime pays and criminals kill for the payoffs and to keep their turf from rival criminals. The current Leftist ideological swing towards criminals and away from average citizens will not end well.

Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
December 9, 2021 6:44 am

It really does fascinate me as to how individuals who otherwise give off an impression of rationality get their panties in such a wad at the very concept of people defending themselves instead of waiting for the police to come and collect the bodies.

What is unusual is not that some people are self confident enough to protect themselves, but rather that other people have been so cowed by the opinions of others, that they are willing to surrender themselves to the madness of crowds.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  MarkW
December 9, 2021 11:20 am

I think part of the problem is that because of the extreme filtering exercised by the generally liberal media, people living outside the US don’t get all the facts or the context. Most Americans don’t either! One can’t blame Geoff for coming to the wrong conclusion if he doesn’t have access to the facts. The situation is further complicated because of censorship by the MSM of issues related to race.

A few years ago, an Australian baseball player was shot in the back and killed while jogging in Oklahoma. At first, the media said nothing about the race of those arrested for the crime. Eventually, it came out that the four teenagers were Black. However, the media was quick to point out that one of them was really White, because he had a White mother. Funny how that is. Obama was praised as being the first Black American president, despite having a White mother too. The ‘news’ media never followed up with the results and punishment, if any, for these teenagers who were bored and killed someone for the thrill of it. None of the assailants was old enough to legally own a handgun, which is prohibited at the federal level. So, a law did not stop the crime. Additional laws will not be effective either.

I have researched this whole issue extensively and can provide evidence, which Geoff has obviously not had access to before reaching his conclusions.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
December 10, 2021 6:06 am

If you parse the homicides by racial groups, you will note that among whites, the homicide rate for hand guns is about the same as in Europe. Well, maybe not France, anymore. Also, approximately 1/2 of all gun deaths are suicides.

Jeffery P
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
December 9, 2021 8:00 am

I’d say Australia is a leader of the free nations on the world in the harmful idea of “Zero Covid.” There is so much you can teach us about locking down our own citizens or putting them in concentration camps.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
December 9, 2021 10:58 am

We lag the USA and EU in adoption of harmful ideas.

Like beauty, “harmful ideas” may be in the eye of the beholder. Australian has what I would consider to be draconian gun control laws. I’m a strong supporter of the US’s Second Amendment.

On the other hand, I agree with you that ‘Hollywood’ makes a lot of money on promoting gun violence and desensitizes youth worldwide to violence. However, except for movies that are re-enactments of real events such as the bombing of Pearl Harbor, the evacuation of Dunkirk, or even more appropriately the American Revolution, the display of guns in most Hollywood movies has little to do with the Second Amendment and is instead gratuitous violence not far removed from pornography. Many wealthy Hollywood actors have acquired their wealth by prostituting themselves by using guns in movies, and then hypocritically asking for more strict gun control laws after they have created a demand for the things that they have promoted. Like climate activists, they want to have privileges that they would deny the common person.

You asked how things came to be the way they are. It is all about money! And, with large populations, things that play a minor role in society, such as Pet Rocks, Hula Hoops, and entertainment can make some people wealthy beyond what contribution they actually make to society. Why should someone whose major talents are the ability to memorize a script, and deliver it with the unblinking sincerity of a used car salesmen, be far wealthier than Jonas Salk?

An American

Climate believer
December 8, 2021 11:22 pm

One swallow does not make a summer.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Climate believer
December 9, 2021 10:12 am

One swallow does, however, make a Lewinski.

December 8, 2021 11:30 pm

What counts is what governments say and do. I am afraid that at least in the UK the government is seriously planning large scale measures that are impossible to implement, and even were they possible, would have little effect on local emissions and no effect on emissions or climate. But in the meantime the attempt to implement them is going to cause huge damage to the economy and huge amounts of human suffering. Suffering as in, people sitting in unheated houses afraid to boil a kettle because it costs too much.

People need to wake up to the real life measures the UK Government is proposing to implement. They really are planning to ban oil and gas fired heating and ICE cars. They really are planning to convert the grid to hugely wind and solar. They really are in this crazed fantasy about converting the gas grid to hydrogen.

There’s no project planning or project management for any of this, but it is published policy, and legislation will be introduced, and all political parties will support it.

In Scotland the Greens are in a coalition with the SNP, and they really do want to close down the Scottish oil industry. Without having the slightest idea or plan how to deal with the subsequent energy and revenue shortfalls or how to keep those currently working in it off the dole.

The optimism in the piece is misguided. It is true that in the end reality will prevail. But on the way there a huge amount of damage will be done. We have a generation of activists and politicians and journalists who have no idea what science and engineering is. They are making policy on the basis of fantasies and impressions, without any rational consideration of the evidence.

What the article doesn’t see is how bad this can get before the final crisis, how bad the final crisis may be, and how hard it may be to recover from.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  michel
December 9, 2021 5:30 am

Excellent comment, michel.

Reply to  michel
December 9, 2021 6:51 am

Socialists have been trained to believe that socialism is the natural state of mankind. In their minds all they need to do is destroy modern society and socialism will naturally grow up to replace it.

Joe Shaw
Reply to  MarkW
December 10, 2021 4:07 pm

Socialism is / will produce the natural state of mankind: to wit, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.

Dave Fair
Reply to  michel
December 9, 2021 10:26 am

Its easy for a country to mandate significant penetration of EVs into transportation. All they have to do is ban traffic jams, hot weather and snowstorms. In the U.S. we have days-long traffic snarls during snowstorms and hours long traffic jams in hot weather. I wonder how long it would take to reach and tow all the “empty” stranded EVs and how many people would die from extreme heat or cold. Even a relatively few “empty” EVs during rush hour traffic will shut down the major roadways. Here in Las Vegas in the summer that would be a life and death situation. In the mountains, High Plains and Northeast blizzards would kill many.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Dave Fair
December 9, 2021 2:33 pm

“Its easy for a country to mandate significant penetration of EVs into transportation.”

Biden is planning on coverting all federal vehicles to electric vehicles by 2030.

Of course, Biden won’t be president beyond 2024, so I don’t expect the whole federal fleet to get coverted before more realistic heads prevail.

In the meantime, I guess the federal vehicles will take up all the charging ports around town. They may be the only ones using charging ports.

I saw an article yesterday reporting that a Tesla owner had replaced the electic drive train and batteries with an internal combustion engine. I guess he likes the look of the car, but not the powertrain.

I guess the electric vehicle manufacturers are going to do pretty good for the next couple of years producing electric vehicles for the government. Or at least the ones that get the contract.

I don’t think it’s going to last. I really don’t think Americans are ready to give up their internal-combustion-engined cars.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  michel
December 9, 2021 11:23 am

Americans can only hope that the UK and other European countries demonstrate how bad the ideas are before they take hold here. 🙂

Thomas Gasloli
December 8, 2021 11:39 pm

“the socialist do indeed have the same interest of the working man… at heart…”

Ah, no, they don’t, not in the past, not now, not in the future, never.

Reply to  Thomas Gasloli
December 9, 2021 4:13 am

Agree Thomas. One of the Great Lies of the 20th century was that socialists cared about the working classes. In every instance where they were able, they enslaved the workers and harnessed them to the objectives of the State until they died early deaths in their millions. Socialism IS Fascism.

Reply to  IainC
December 9, 2021 2:57 pm

Socialism and Communism are fairy tales told by dictators.

Rod Evans
December 9, 2021 1:11 am

Finding comfort in the latest mutterings of the energy destruction movement, is basically Stockholm Syndrome. The, “We have to kill Capitalism” movement, to give the climate alarmist cult, their correct name, has been outlined by various ” leaders” at the UN many times. To accept any of the political nonsense surrounding climate alarmism, is at best pointless and at worst down right dangerous.
What will be growing, as the lunacy of removing low cost energy from society increases, is pain, and resistance. Abundant secure and consistent energy availability, is an essential part of life. Slowly, but eventually, it will dawn on the advocates of Net Zero, there is something called “reality”.
The destroyers of the energy requirement, needed to sustain our 8 billion people will be swept aside. The growing tide of people suffering energy poverty, due to climate alarmism and their Luddite policies, will find their voice and they will be heard.
People’s desperation, driven on by basic survival needs, will impact energy policy in the end.
The cold chill of winter looms. The alarmists may try to ignore that reality, but reality will not ignore them..

Reply to  Rod Evans
December 9, 2021 6:53 am

The head of BLM has declared that the only way blacks will ever be free is if capitalism is destroyed.
I’m not sure if that was after buying his first, or his second mansion.

December 9, 2021 4:07 am

We have State Governments and Federal Opposition Parties here in Australia who imagine it is possible to reconfigure gigantic chunks of infrastructure and manufacturing processes by 2030 to meet insanely optimistic CO2 emission reduction targets i.e. in only 8 years’ time. It’s a ludicrous fantasy that is NEVER questioned by the so-called respectable media. Energy supply experts are NEVER called upon to critique the schemes or the targets against well-understood engineering and project completion times. Power grid experts are NEVER put on the stand to assess the result of introducing huge percentages of non-dispatchable power supply into a dispatchable grid. Consequently, politicians and activists gain the false idea that their cockamamie schemes are accepted by a majority outside the bubble and are technically achievable. The educated powerless can only stand by and watch the utterly predictable train wreck in slow motion forced on us by the uneducated powerful.

Peter Morris
December 9, 2021 4:33 am

I applaud peacemakers of all stripes, but this author has a long way to go if he thinks socialists actually have the working man’s interests at heart.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Peter Morris
December 9, 2021 5:35 am

Socialist leaders have an interest in gaining power. They step on the “little guy” to get there.

December 9, 2021 6:01 am

This is not a bad way to classify “Slow Food” and other phenomena like it:

‘Luxury Beliefs’ are the latest status symbol for rich Americans

In the past, upper-class Americans used to display their social status with luxury goods. Today, they do it with luxury beliefs.

We feel pressure to display our status in new ways. This is why fashionable clothing always changes. But as trendy clothes and other products become more accessible and affordable, there is increasingly less status attached to luxury goods.

The upper classes have found a clever solution to this problem: luxury beliefs. These are ideas and opinions that confer status on the rich at very little cost, while taking a toll on the lower class.

And Climate Change would probably the #1 Luxury Belief.

December 9, 2021 7:27 am

He doesn’t read comments but I do because it is important to know what people think and the knowledge they present.

Socialist have never had any interest except for themselves and traditionally take as much of the wealth they can steal from others in bribes and manipulation. Socialists also destroy the middle class with wealthy leaders at the top and an impoverished working class at the bottom.
That is why socialism has always failed. Socialists believe government is superior to the individual with the non person serving government.

And who is making the cultural and economic decisions that there is a climate crisis that is not apparent to casual and interested observers.j

True, developing countries want to develop but they will only do it with the skill and equipment of the developed countries. Without that they will not progress.

Clyde Spencer
December 9, 2021 10:19 am

…socialists do indeed have the interests of the working man and downtrodden at heart

“The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.”

Doing the wrong thing for the right reason does not excuse the consequences!

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