War in Iran and Hot Air at Home

By Jonathan LesserPortia Roberts

“Never let a crisis go to waste,” a now well-known political mantra, is being deployed by wind energy developers. The recent run-up in world oil prices caused by the Iran war is the newest excuse for more subsidies, especially continuing the “temporary” federal tax credits enjoyed for over three decades.

Proponents claim wind energy can insulate markets from volatile oil prices as well as supercharge an energy transition. Neither claim is true.

Last year, wind supplied just 2% of total U.S. energy consumption. Worldwide, fossil fuels accounted for 87% of global energy supplies, while non-hydroelectric renewables accounted for less than 3%. And fossil fuel consumption continues to increase, driven primarily by heavy industry, development in ASEAN and emerging markets, and  all forms of transportation.

After the 1973 OPEC oil embargo, advocates claimed that subsidizing an “infant” wind industry would reduce US dependence on foreign oil. That claim spurred the passage of the Public Utilities Regulatory Policy Act of 1978, which forced electric utilities to purchase wind power, derided as “PURPA machines,” at inflated prices set by utility regulators.

Years later, the Energy Policy Act of 1992 changed energy markets and the nature of wind subsidies. Rather than being subject to regulation-mandated purchases, wind power became eligible for generous production tax credits. (An opportunity that Warren Buffet acknowledged and harvested in Berkshire investments.) Together with state mandates for utilities to purchase greater quantities of wind-generated electricity, investment in wind power soared.

As the foreign oil dependence argument evaporated when the U.S. became the world’s largest crude oil producer, wind advocates revised the subsidies rationale, promising, instead, an answer to climate change and, especially, economic development and jobs. Advocates, especially for high-cost offshore wind, have argued that larger subsidies not only would reduce fossil fuel dependence, but would also stimulate ever greater economic growth and “green” jobs, as if the money fell from the clouds, and not taxpayers and ratepayers.

Nevertheless, politicians – red and blue – eagerly latched onto these arguments, showering wind energy developers with money. The Biden Administration’s Inflation Reduction Act increased the tax credits, driven by green-energy enthusiasts and opportunities to spread taxpayer largesse to favored constituents.

Today, the so-called low-cost, half-century-old infant still howls for more subsidies. Last year’s One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBB) phases out the tax credits by the end of 2027. But there is growing pressure to restore and extend the subsidies.

As wind generation has grown, so have consequent physical and economic problems. Wind subsidies have driven out unsubsidized fossil fuel generators, a sort-of Gresham’s Law of green energy. The loss of those fossil fuel generators is a primary cause of a spike in electricity wholesale capacity costs in electricity markets like the PJM which serves over 65 million people across 13 states and the District of Columbia. Ironically, many of the politicians who earlier promoted wind generation have complained loudest about the resulting price spikes.

While wind, like all energy sources, has environmental drawbacks, not least in foreign lands where mining of the essential minerals occurs to build wind machines, that’s the least of the domestic issues.

The overarching problem with wind generation is its lack of value. The highest-value resources are those that help stabilize the power grid and provide electricity when demand peaks. But wind power, like solar, is self-evidently inherently intermittent. Such intermittency not only leads to higher costs to compensate but also destabilizes power grids, as happened in Portugal and Spain last year, leading to the risk of systemwide blackouts.

Consequently, more backup generation, called “reserve margin,” must be available to step in when the wind doesn’t blow. For example, a 2021 study by the New York State Reliability Council predicted that, to meet that state’s zero-emissions goal, the reserve margin would have to increase from its then-current value of 20% of peak load, to over 100%, i.e., and entire extra duplicate grid available when needed. That’s like having to buy a second car in case because the first one is unreliable and may not start in the morning. As Midcontinent ISO president John Bear stated, adding more wind and solar to the grid has, in fact, increased electricity costs.

Modern civilization needs ever greater quantities of affordable and reliable electricity, delivered in as environmentally benign way as possible. Wind power offers none of those things. Subsidies will never change that.

Jonathan Lesser is a Senior Fellow, and Portia Roberts is the Deputy Executive Director at the National Center for Energy Analytics.

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June 19, 2026 10:21 am

There I thought “War in Iran and Hot Air at Home” was about something different…

Ruhaan Pilani
Reply to  MyUsernameReloaded
June 19, 2026 2:36 pm

lowkey same

MarkW
Reply to  Ruhaan Pilani
June 19, 2026 3:11 pm

Is losername paying you to make him look good by comparisoni?

Reply to  MarkW
June 19, 2026 11:07 pm

Why should I pay them when you so readily volunteer? 😛

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsernameReloaded
June 20, 2026 8:17 am

Interesting, LoserName seems to be talking to himself.
Makes sense, he’s the only person who will listen.

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsernameReloaded
June 19, 2026 3:11 pm

You thought. Now that’s funny.

Reply to  MarkW
June 20, 2026 3:34 am

I think I am beginning to miss our old pal Griff. The quality of our resident trolls has declined precipitously. These new arrivals reached the level of childish elementary school taunting. Just stop engaging with them.

George Thompson
Reply to  pflashgordon
June 20, 2026 5:33 am

Yeah, whatever happened to Griff? Did he go out and get a real job? Or were we too hard on him? Yes, indeedy, the quality of our more recent trolls has declined.

MarkW
Reply to  George Thompson
June 20, 2026 8:20 am

When WUWT went to the new registration system he declared that he had no intention of giving Anthony his personal information.
Despite the fact that the only personal information requested was the email address, which he had already given to the old registration system.

George Thompson
Reply to  MarkW
June 20, 2026 7:56 pm

Crybaby; but to be expected.

Reply to  MarkW
June 21, 2026 4:35 am

And despite the fact that his personal information was already known.

D Sandberg
June 19, 2026 10:29 am

With Trump protecting New Englaner’s from themselves their offshore wind demise is in good hands. As of mid‑2026, New England offshore wind is only about ~1.5–2 GW built or near full operation (Vineyard Wind ~800 MW, Revolution Wind ~704 MW, South Fork ~132 MW), with roughly another ~1 GW under construction (Sunrise Wind ~924 MW). That puts the likely total around ~2–4 GW by 2030—not the 40 multi‑gigawatt build‑out originally envisioned.
Several additional projects (New England Wind ~2.6 GW, SouthCoast Wind, Vineyard Wind 2) are delayed, stalled, or withdrawn due to cost inflation, contract failures, and permitting disruption.

Reply to  D Sandberg
June 21, 2026 4:38 am

New England electricity rates are twice as high as the lowest cost states. All because New England insists on using windmills and industrial solar.

Denis
June 19, 2026 10:57 am

Worth mentioning perhaps is that backup generators need to fill in when wind dies and clouds arrive are largely natural-gas-fueled and when operating at less than full power, as many such machines must because of the unpredictability of wind and solar power, they are notoriously fuel-inefficient. Idling is the worst case where new gas generators will consume ~20% of their full power fuel consumption and older ones as much as ~40% just to keep hot, ready to go as they must. Utilities have no choice. They are required by law to accept wind and solar electricity when it is produced forcing them to decrease power output of gas generators or even idle them when there is insufficient demand. Worse still is that wind and solar operators get paid for what they could have produced if utilities are physically unable to accept all of it. I have never seen a calculation of just how much fuel is “saved” by these “fuel-saving” wind and solar machines but it is not 1 for 1, it is much less. Perhaps that is why, if such a calculation has been done, it remains unseen, quashed by our incredibly ignorant and corrupt polticians.

Reply to  Denis
June 19, 2026 11:09 am

So great they are being replaced by batteries.

Reply to  MyUsernameReloaded
June 19, 2026 11:21 am

Troll – don’t reply!

Ruhaan Pilani
Reply to  michel
June 19, 2026 2:37 pm

and you shut up, cuz no one bothered about what you had to say. this is a discussion forum and if I were you, I’d uphold the standards of that. for all of you upvoting his comment, you should be ashamed that this is the level of indecency we are at. no one asked you to agree with the comment, but why being rude about it?

MarkW
Reply to  Ruhaan Pilani
June 19, 2026 3:21 pm

Discussion requires thoughtful and intellignet comments.
LoserName has never bothered to provide such. He just regurgitates trite party line slogans that have long since been disproven.
And before you get your panties in a wad, you make LoserName look intelligent.

George Thompson
Reply to  MarkW
June 19, 2026 4:38 pm

Like I said a while back-a new troll has arrived. He claims to be from Cali-but also seems to know nada about it, even going so far as to claim that 100% of Cali’s electricity is “green”. From where is he from? China maybe? Or the 2nd. grade

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
June 19, 2026 5:08 pm

“LoserName has never bothered to provide such. He just regurgitates trite party line slogans that have long since been disproven.”
Says the man who continually makes up facts. The funniest being “we are currently cooler than the average of the last 10000 years.”
Why don’t you actually check that nonsense Mark? I know you want to “regurgitates trite party line slogans that have long since been disproven.”

Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2026 3:40 am

There was a time when trolls brought something useful to the discussion. No longer.

Simon
Reply to  pflashgordon
June 20, 2026 4:40 am

So you don’t think pointing out hypocrisy brings anything? Seems you would rather live in la la land, where anything said here must be the truth?

Bryan A
Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2026 7:47 am

Speaking of Hypocrisy… How many of the more than 6000 items created through petrochemicals do you still use on a regular basis?
Personally I still gladly use more than 6000 of them!
Do you have an EV?
If so do you recharge it from grid sourced power?
What energy source mix powers your grid?

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2026 8:22 am

So sad, like most alarmists Simon declares that any fact that doesn’t fit the alarmist narrative must be false.
Then again, Simon has never been a deep thinker.

BTW, it’s nice to see my personal stalker again, it’s been month since you last graced us with your presence.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
June 20, 2026 1:04 pm

Happy to point out any time that you spout nonsense regularly. It wouldn’t be so bad if you didn’t accuse others of doing exactly what you are guilty of. You are the dictionary definition of the word “hypocrite.”

Bryan A
Reply to  MyUsernameReloaded
June 19, 2026 2:15 pm

And which of the 207 different countries get those batteries along with the 2.2B existing ICVs that would also need batteries for EV replacement.
Currently the world uses 27,000TWh of electricity annually.
Electrification of transportation alone would require sufficient battery storage (for the EV fuel tanks) to hold an additional 15,000TWh of electricity which would require an additional 15,000 TWh of dedicated generation and storage for charging purposes.
So an electrified system with EVs at 100% and sufficient battery storage for recharging would require almost 60,000 TWh of capacity and dedicated generation to recharge them daily. Then there’s Growth…

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Bryan A
June 22, 2026 9:16 am

How much land would be lost to those self flagilating farms?

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsernameReloaded
June 19, 2026 3:19 pm

Can you name a single place where this is actually happening?
So far every place batteries are being installed it’s for load leveling and frequency protection.
Not a single site, anywhere in the world, are batteries being used as a replacement power source.

BTW, calculations have been done, and it would cost 10’s to 100’s of trillions of dollars and require the entire world’s output of batteries for 30 to 40 years in order to build enough batteries to have enough batteries to support the world for even a couple days of wind doldrums.
Hint, batteries only last 10 to 15 years. So long before there are enough batteries, the entire world’s output of batteries would be needed to replace batteries that are wearing out. None left to increase the number of batteries installed.

Reply to  MyUsernameReloaded
June 20, 2026 4:16 am

Where and at what cost?

Utility scale lithium-ion batteries require an enormous amount of raw materials and consume an enormous amount of energy to produce. For example, 1-ton utility-scale battery has a storage capacity of around 100 kWh and requires ~ 70 tons of mined and processed raw materials to be manufactured. This is the energy equivalent of about ~40 kg of coal or ~20 litres of oil. That battery would power all of Berlin for about 30 minutes (assuming 2 GW peak power) or all of Germany for just under a minute (at peak power of 80 GW).  To produce that battery requires 450 GWh of energy just to be manufactured including the energy required for metals and materials. That’s ~450 times more energy input than its rated storage capacity“.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/08/20/the-battery-storage-delusion-what-35-million-tons-of-industrial-effort-buys-you/?fbclid=IwY2xjawRpnn9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEeHMU38LwTM8mQRlrJLdDqV90CRWD7akOxhsxc2cY66QDDhIQgQEKHkfxUWpw_aem_bCX9MXNBoCOqLA0tLTRrpQ

John Hultquist
Reply to  Denis
June 20, 2026 7:42 am

ICE autos are also notoriously fuel-inefficient when idling. This concept got us the much maligned “stop-start” (aka idling stop).

SxyxS
June 19, 2026 11:18 am

Well, no one ever started a war with or invaded a country because of its windpower ;
but oil(or other USEFUL ressources) is somehow always to be found in regions of greater conflict.

Probably no coincidence.

Another interesting thing is that some are trying to attribute the downfall of faRCP 8.5
to the extremely positive impact of renewables on climate – considering they contribute less than 3% globally,
9% should be enough to completely eliminate the warming 🙂

MarkW
Reply to  SxyxS
June 19, 2026 3:23 pm

WWI was over oil?
WWII was over oil?
Korea was over oil?
Vietnam was over oil?
Ukraine is over oil?

Reply to  MarkW
June 20, 2026 3:47 am

SxyxS could have said “often” or “sometimes” instead of “always.” His main point is that wind power has never and will never be a reason to invade or start a war, while control of natural resources is often a contributing factor.

John Hultquist
Reply to  pflashgordon
June 20, 2026 7:56 am

A good advisor will tell new students to not introduce anything that they do not want to defend when writing an essay or thesis. As in this case, the “always”, is a fumble clouding the main point. 

Bryan A
Reply to  MarkW
June 20, 2026 7:55 am

And here it was I thought
WWI was over Germany (Kaiser) invading sovereign neighbors
WWII was over Germany (Hitler) invading sovereign neighbors
WWII was also over Japan invading sovereign neighbors and bombing Hawaii
Korea was over Communist proliferation
Viet Nam was over Communist proliferation
Ukraine was over Russia invading a sovereign neighbor.
Dang Flabbit Oil.

MarkW
Reply to  Bryan A
June 20, 2026 8:31 am

The trigger for WWI was the assignation of the Archduke of Austria. Various alliances and treaties pulled in other countries. Ultimately though, WWI was a fight over who got which colonies. That’s the sole reason why the Ottoman Empire joined on the side to the German’s. They wanted the British colonies in the Middle East. When they lost, they lost their colonies, which included the area now occupied by Israel, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, etc.

Reply to  SxyxS
June 19, 2026 4:31 pm

Iraq was over oil?
Afghanistan was over oil?
Iran was over oil?

Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 20, 2026 4:50 am

Well (to my two detractors), name a war the United States was involved in that’s objective was getting oil for the United States.

This is just a Big Lie that has no basis in fact told by people who hate the U.S., or who believe the people who hate the U.S.

Prove me wrong.

Bryan A
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 20, 2026 7:51 am

And here it was I thought…
Iraq was over their invasion of Kuwait!
Afghanistan was over Bin Laden
And Item was over Nuclear Proliferation into an Islamic Terror State.

June 19, 2026 12:20 pm

Story tip!
Some climate scientists are against geoengineering… a commentary from The Guardian.
– – – – – – – – –

‘Termination shock’: trust our expert warnings on geoengineering’s planetary risks
(By Raymond Pierrehumbert, Julia Slingo, Michael Mann and Valerie Masson-Delmotte)
Do we really want to play dice with our planet?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/19/solar-geoengineering-risk-to-planet-earth

Reply to  Cam_S
June 19, 2026 4:34 pm

Michael Mann has been playing dice with our economies for decades. He has almost managed to bankrupt the UK and Germany, fooling them into believing CO2 needs to be controlled at all costs, including bankrupting the nation.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 20, 2026 12:37 am

Michael Mann and many naive scientists has been brain-washed by the corrupt IPCC and the unscrupulous collaborating scientists. These people should be arrested and prosecuted for scientific fraud.

Reply to  Harold Pierce
June 20, 2026 4:53 am

I don’t think Mann is naive.

He knows what he is doing. He is lying about the Earth’s climate and weather.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Cam_S
June 24, 2026 7:32 am

Michael Mann…

Well, consider that even a clock that has stopped working is right twice a day.

On the side of planetary risks, I have to agree.

June 19, 2026 12:49 pm

[Ctrl]-F search for “nuclear” comes up 0/0. Why should any bother to read it?

John Hultquist
Reply to  Steve Case
June 20, 2026 8:06 am

What?

Norman Baillie
June 19, 2026 1:53 pm

The referenced “The Gresham’s Law of Green Energy” makes the case “where subsidized, politically favored power displaces economically efficient generation” It should note that it becomes even more pronounced once the full lifecycle costs of renewables are included, from non‑recyclable wind‑turbine blades and toxic solar‑panel waste to the hazardous, subsidy‑dependent disposal of lithium‑ion batteries. Missed an opportunity there.

trafamadore
June 19, 2026 2:04 pm

Everyone with an EV is laughing these days. Wish I had one.

Bryan A
Reply to  trafamadore
June 19, 2026 2:17 pm

You can pick up a second hand Tesla fairly cheap as they depreciate to near Zero value in 5 years.
You want one? The only thing stopping you is You!
And perhaps a smattering of intelligence!
Here’s a 2021 model 3 With 20k miles for $27k
https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/4465726?refSource=srp

trafamadore
Reply to  Bryan A
June 19, 2026 3:16 pm

So you said “near Zero value in 5 years”. But it’s going for 27K. I don’t know, that’s not zero value.
Turns out that EV dont lose recharging ability as quick as many think.
In practical terms, if an EV originally had a 300-mile range:

  • After 5 years, it might still provide 270–285 miles.
  • After 10 years, it might provide 240–270 miles.
  • After 15 years, it might provide 210–255 miles.

So lots of variables I guess, but used Teslas seem like a deal.

Simon
Reply to  trafamadore
June 19, 2026 5:11 pm

I have a 5 year old Tesla long range. I can barely notice any loss in the battery capacity (if any). Car has been no trouble and a welcome purchase given the troubles with fossil fuels recently.

Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2026 12:43 am

What is the range in winter, like in Canada where I live? In Winnipeg, the average temperature in Jan. is -20° to -10° C.

Simon
Reply to  Harold Pierce
June 20, 2026 4:37 am

Not great in the very cold… but latest battery tech overcome that.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2026 8:12 am

Is there a battery auto being advertised that does as well in Winnipeg in January as it does in Houston in April? 

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Simon
June 22, 2026 9:22 am

How does the latest battery chemistry overcome chemical reaction times slowing with colder temperatures?

leefor
Reply to  trafamadore
June 19, 2026 9:41 pm

Ah, now the “might’s” replace the “could’s”.

Reply to  trafamadore
June 20, 2026 4:21 am

Bryan said a $27,000 used EV would be worth near zero in another five years. The original owner of the new EV had already lost $30,000 of his money by the time he sold it on the used market, every repaid a huge price premium for the EV to start with compare to a similar internal combustion vehicle.

Bryan A
Reply to  trafamadore
June 20, 2026 8:02 am

And my ICV ’98 Dodge Durango had a 22 gallon gas tank in 2000 when I bought it.
And a 22 gallon gas tank in 2003 (5 years)
And a 22 gallon gas tank in 2008 (10 years)
And a 22 gallon gas tank in 2013 (15 years)
And still a 22 gallon gas tank in 2023 (when I sold it)
With zero reduction in range over 23 years that I owned it!
My gas tank also weighed 22 pounds Plus 136 pounds of fuel when full
EVs have an 1,100 pound fuel tank that never loses weight.

Bryan A
Reply to  trafamadore
June 20, 2026 8:11 am

On average, a new Tesla Model S depreciates by about 12% to 15% per year. Over a 5-year period, the Model S loses roughly 60% to 62% of its original value. This equates to an average annual value loss of approximately $12,000 to $13,000 per year
.
A Tesla Model 3 depreciates by an average of $4,500 to $6,000 per year. Over a 5-year period, it loses roughly 50% to 55% of its original value, following a steep drop in the first year followed by a more gradual curve in subsequent years
.
The Tesla Model X loses approximately 60% of its value over the first 5 years. Because of its high initial MSRP, the annual depreciation is steep—often dropping by $12,000 to $15,000+ per year
…(every two years of depreciation is sufficient to buy a new ICV)
.
The Tesla Model Y loses about 10% to 15% of its value annually, translating to an average depreciation of $5,500 to $7,000 per year. Over a typical 5-year ownership span, the Model Y generally depreciates by about 50% to 60% of its original MSRP
.
For comparison…
.
A new Toyota Corolla depreciates by an average of about $1,500 to $1,800 per year during its first five years. Overall, it loses only about 25% to 30% of its initial value over that same five-year period
.
The average annual depreciation of a Nissan Rogue is approximately $2,800 to $3,500 per year, depending on the trim and model year
.
A Honda Civic depreciates by an average of about $2,631 per year over a 5-year period. It boasts excellent resale value, retaining roughly 72% to 77% of its original value after five year.
.
The Mazda CX-5 depreciates by an average of $2,000 to $2,900 per year during its first five years. Overall, it holds its value better than most compact SUVs, losing roughly 38% to 42% of its original value after 5 years
.
EVs depreciate twice as fast as ICVs and losing more than half the value in just 5 years IS Practically Worthless in my book.

John Hultquist
Reply to  trafamadore
June 20, 2026 8:14 am

Used beer is a deal, but I’ll pass!

Reply to  Bryan A
June 20, 2026 4:17 am

EV owners average paying an extra $800 per year for auto insurance, enough to buy gas to drive 8000 miles in a conventional internal combustion car.

MarkW
Reply to  trafamadore
June 19, 2026 3:26 pm

The high prices are already dropping, and EVs are still expensive to own, expensive to operate and not very useful to boot.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
June 19, 2026 5:12 pm

“and EVs are still expensive to own,”
For goodness sake. You just make shit up. How are they expensive to own? You looked at the price of petrol lately? Mine has cost me nothing but tyres (still on second set) and electricity in the 140000kms I have put on it.

leefor
Reply to  Simon
June 19, 2026 9:42 pm

Was the electricity solar, wind or nuclear? 😉

Simon
Reply to  leefor
June 19, 2026 10:20 pm

Bit of solar bit of hydro. Why? costs 14m(US)cents a kilowatt. About $8 to fill up. Get 300 miles.

Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2026 5:04 am

Got a lot of hydro around there, Simon?

The reason I ask is because you are not going to get electricity that cheap if most of it is solar, so I’m guessing most of yours is hydro. Am I wrong?

Simon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 20, 2026 1:13 pm

Got a lot of hydro around there, Simon?”
We sure do. NZ over 80% renewable. I have a 12 kilowatt solar array on the roof that on a fine day produces more than enough to charge the Tesla. But even if I didn’t, it would still be way cheaper to drive than an ICE car.

Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2026 4:52 am

Thanks for the reply.

To put things in perspective, the highest electricity rates in the U.S. are about 33 cents per kilowatt in the New England States and California, which all incorporated large amounts of windmills and solar, thus the high prices, and the rates in States with fewer windmills and solar have electricity prices down around 13 cents per kilowatt.

Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2026 10:17 am

47 US cents/ kilowatt hour here and tiered pricing costs more the more you use. Dunno where you get 14 cents/ KWh but you should stay there.

John Hultquist
Reply to  doonman
June 20, 2026 11:23 am

Large dams on the Columbia River provide power. A map here:
counties.png (600×396)

Douglas County, WA the rate is 2.35¢/kWh in 2026
Chelan County 2.7¢/kWh {2004 rate}
Grant County 5.9¢/kWh {2004 rate}
Kittitas County $/kwh = $0.1089 $28.37 [I’m here]
+ $28. basic facility charge/ month
The region is mostly hydro:
BPA Balancing Authority Load and Total VER

Simon
Reply to  doonman
June 20, 2026 1:13 pm

The beautiful country of NZ. I checked it and we pay .13US which is about .22NZ which is our night rate.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2026 8:36 am

And there he goes again, declaring any fact that goes against the party line is false.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
June 20, 2026 1:14 pm

You are soooo boring. Bring some facts next time, not just mindless opinion (although it is a strength of yours…. “mindless opinion”).

Reply to  trafamadore
June 20, 2026 4:06 am

Given the price premium to buy EV versus a comparably sized and equipped IC, the owner would have to drive 350,000 miles just to make up the difference.

And actually, I laugh at Tesla owners every time I buy gas at my local HEB gas station. I see them lined up wasting 15 minutes of their time while they watch 50 IC cars fill up and be gone.

It is also very shortsighted to make claims about gas prices based on the short term effects of Iran again blocking international shipping. Gas prices are quickly returning to their long-term normal. Unlike many things that are responsible for persistent inflation, gas prices are not one of those. Once gas prices level off, we will be paying the same thing for gasoline that we did in 1960.

GeorgeInSanDiego
Reply to  trafamadore
June 20, 2026 8:31 am

Fifteen years from now every electric car you see will only be worth its value as scrap, because almost no one will be willing to spend fifteen thousand dollars to have a new battery installed in a fifteen year old car.

davidinredmond
Reply to  GeorgeInSanDiego
June 21, 2026 9:19 am

and who pays for the disposal cost of the spent batteries? US EPA says this: “Most lithium-ion batteries on the market are likely to meet the definition of hazardous waste under the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA). “

ICE vehicles still have scrap value. IOW, scrap yards will _pay_ you to dispose of your spent ICE vehicle.

Don’t know NZ laws, but road use taxes are coming to a US state near you to cover the “lost revenue” since EV’s don’t pay gasoline or diesel sales or excise tax.

MarkW
June 19, 2026 3:10 pm

wind and solar protect us from volatile ener4gy prices by making them high all of the time.
What a deal. /sarc

Replacing a system that is costly some of the time and available all the time
with one that is costly all of the time and available some of the time.