Guest essay by Eric Worrall
The Washington Post forgot to mention the late 1900s glacial advance which covered the WW1 structures with ice in the first place (see above).
Historians found a WWI bunker ‘frozen in time’ in the Alps. Climate change makes it a bittersweet discovery.
By Adela SulimanNovember 13, 2021 at 8:57 a.m. EST
Tucked within an icy mountain lies a meticulously preserved World War I bunker.
Climate change means we can now see it.Complete coverage from the COP26 U.N. climate summit
The intact cavern-cum-barracks contains munitions, books, cigarette holders and animal bones, and it was once teeming with Austro-Hungarian troops. They staked out on Mount Scorluzzo, almost 3,000 meters (about 9,800 feet) above sea level, on the Italian-Swiss border, now part of Italy’s Stelvio National Park territory.
“These places were literally frozen in time,” Giovanni Cadioli, a historian and postdoctoral researcher at the University of Padua in Italy, told The Washington Post.
Now, he added, climate change is playing a “pivotal role” in their discovery, as warming temperatures have led to the melting of glaciers and permafrost, revealing a “time capsule.”
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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/11/13/climate-change-italy-alps-world-war-one/
It is a bit difficult to interpret this find as evidence of dangerous anthropogenic climate change, when glaciers were retreating just as fast in the early 1900s, well before anthropogenic CO2 could possibly have had a significant impact.
To be fair glaciers do not only respond to temperature, changes in land use and snowfall patterns can also have an impact. But the behaviour of the glaciers is not exactly an alarmist hockey stick.
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IF WE ARE IN THE HOTTEST SUMMER EVER, HOW COME IT STILL HAS NOT MELTED ALL THE ICE THAT FROZE THESE BUNKERS? SURELY IT WAS WARMER THEN, WHEN CUMULATIVE HUMAN EMISSIONS HAD JUST REACHED 12 PPM?
yeah amazing like frozen tundra trees etc they NEVER stop and think that to BE there buried they were UNburied open land at one time, and those soldiers werent dug into glaciers at that time either
morons too kind a word really
Nope: they did not mention this since Eric Worrall spreads here “alternative facts”. The picture he is referring to shows the percentage of galciers advancing. And ot the amount of meters they advanced.
look at the upper part of these austrian data:
Vorstoss: advancing
Rückgang: retreating
mittlere Längenänderung: mean lenth change. There did not happen much in the 70s and 80s.
https://www.alpenverein.at/portal/service/presse/2021/2021_04_09_gletscherbericht-2020.php
there you see that the retreat of 1963 and 1964 compensates all the advances from 1975 to 1984. Not to mention the retreat in the 1930ies anf 1949ies.
Thus: no need to dicuss this in length. Astonishing that in 111 coments nobody saw this flaw in Eric’s statement. AFAIR this is called confirmation bias.
All of this is short term myopia. None of it really matters. Hell, the glaciers could disappear altogether, life would go on.
Who told you that life would not go on without galciers?
o.k. with a smal galcier the Boulder (CO) watershed has some advantage but for a higher price water shortages can be handeled withput this galcier, too.
Oh I don’t know, the UN? Scoldilocks? Biden? Obama? The entire corporate media?
Just bring me the quote wher UN did say that life is over as soon as the glaciers are gone.
You know what I mean. The entire “glaciers melting, earth overheating, polar bears dying.” It’s all part of the narrative. But they never seem to retract when the narrative isn’t true.
“o.k. with a smal galcier the Boulder (CO) watershed has some advantage but for a higher price water shortages can be handeled withput this galcier, too.”
And if the glaciers were advancing, water would be even more scarce.
Nope: larger area thus larger melt area in summer thus more water when you need it to water your lawn.
it is so easy.
And no water at other times, for those who rely on glacier melt, which isn’t me. I don’t water my lawn.
But you do accept that the climate was at least as warm in 1914 as it is today?
No why should I accept these alternative facts: in WW I these structures were carved in rock AND Ice. The ice (glacier) is vanishing now so it looks like it is warmer today than during WW I. Just go ahead and look for real scientific documents:
page 15 ff.
Das_Klima_von_Tirol-Suedtirol-Belluno.pdf
The graph from Böhm can be trusted, he never was an alarmist.
“ these alternative facts” should be read as ” your alternative facts”
Your link doesn’t work.
Sorry for not checking:
here we go:
http://www.alpenklima.eu/images/Das_Klima_von_Tirol-Suedtirol-Belluno.pdf
google should have worked as well.