Reposted from the NoTricksZone
You think FFF kids are mad at their parents for trashing the planet? That’s nothing compared to their anger when you ask them to walk the talk.
Angry Greta. Image cropped here.
At FaceBook, two German parents of a young schoolgirl decided that if their daughter was going to skip school on Fridays and demand the rest of the world start being responsible for the planet as Greta and Fridays For Future prescribe, then she should begin to do so at home.
Well, that didn’t go over too well.
Here’s what the two parents wrote:
Thanks Greta…. thanks Fridays For Future!
Oh oh… doors slamming, loud screaming
Our daughter recently got back from more stupid FFF truancy. She was teed off because we didn’t pick her up (climate friendly) and so she had to tough it out in a bus and train for 3 hours to get home.
After having a chalky vegan soy cake (only for her – we had real cheesecake) there was a surprise. She now has to take the bus to school in the morning. But that’s a drag, because the bus only leaves every hour and she either arrives at school an hour early or arrives too late. We suggested to stop heating the bus, because it still uses oil. But she also doesn’t want to go by bicycle because of all the hills and grades – besides soon it’ll be winter and it’s too cold and windy. But she says she might consider the option if she gets an e-bike for Christmas.
“Christmas? But that’s totally anti-eco,” I told her. “All those lights and CO2 emissions from candles!” This sparked the first pre-pubescent protest, which was amazingly similar to her defiant phase between the ages of 2 and 3. ‘E-bike? Hasn’t our little daughter even seen the devastated areas that result from the extraction of rare earths for the batteries?’
Now she’s sitting upstairs in her room at 8°C (46°F), moping. We have already turned off the heat there to be ecologically conscious. Maybe she’s keeping her fingers warm typing angry mails about her “shitty parents” to her friends on her i-Phone. But here we’ve announced to her that she will be rid of this iPhone at 7 pm. After all, it’s irresponsible to keep wasting electricity to have more or less useful conversation and, secondly: again the lithium extraction and its ecological consequences.
In response to her protests against this expropriation, we assured her in a calm voice that we would either send the iPhone directly to needy children in Africa, or sell it and then donate the financial equivalent to help save the South American rainforest.
But the real fun starts on Monday. That’s when we swap out her trendy clothes for jute, wool and hemp fiber woven stuff. Her Nikes with the cool plastic soles will be replaced by Dutch wooden shoes. And if someone thinks this is satire: No, we are GOING THROUGH IT!
If she then still screeches on, she has two possibilities:
1) recognize what brainless eco-fascists she’s listening to
2) recognize what brainless eco-fascists she’s listening to!
Thank you Greta. You have inspired us, as no one else would have done in educational matters. Mommy and I have just shouted up to our daughter: ‘We’re going to Mc Donald’s, want to come along?’ We hope the hysterical screaming will stop by the time we get back.’”
Every parent should make their activist children really practice what they preach.
Oi smiled, I did. 🙂
Me too, like a Cheshire cat. Hope we get an update on the progress/ tantrums.
Excellent idea. I don’t see any of them making it through a week of reality check.
“I don’t see any of them making it through a week of reality check.”
It depends on the personality of the child. A teen of my acquaintance had a friend who’d ‘seen the light’ and convinced the teen and a few others in the high school that the only moral choice was to go vegan. 5 of them started out together. By the end of the first month there were but 2 remaining still eating vegan. This teen, always a persistent sort of fellow, was one of them. 10 months later, pale, distraught and malnourished he collapsed into a lump of malnourished guilt and we counseled him that it was ok to eat what you NEED and were evolved to eat on this planet.
Now grown up, one of his hobbies is deer hunting.
That is a good example of holding kids responsible for bad behavior.
Boris , Princes Chaeles and William and Harry and AOC need the same treatment
That entire generation needs it, not just those spoiled brats. 🙂
I am fairly certain that I fall somewhere in that generation. Please don’t paint all us with that brush.
Did not mean to. I know there are exceptions. They just don’t get the “stage center” that Those Others do.
Oh that we could deprive all of them of their time in the spotlight.
The good old Auntie Beeb are putting on some propaganda drama on this evening about “Climate Gate”, referring constantly throughout the interview with the starring actor, to the “stolen” emails, yet again reinforcing the propaganda that the emails were stolen & not leaked by an insider, & the pathetic wishy-washy police enquiry that followed failed to find any evidence of a theft of these emails!!! Then again why should I expect anything less from our tainted publicly funded state broadcaster, run by intellectual lefty elites pushing an agenda path on the run-up to the Climate fest in Glasgow next month. I wonder, will the finest foods, finest wines, & finest champagnes, all be locally produced & sourced within the UK, (or flown in from abroad on boars carbon-neutral aeroplanes)??? No, I didn’t think so either!!!
An excellent diversion tactic to distract from the contents.
I’ve often wondered about why the alarmists think the emails are any less damming if they had been stolen.
It’s the content that’s important, not the manner of arrival.
I suspect William may have his head screwed on slightly. I can’t recall him saying anything particularly stupid on this topic.
OK, his father sets the bar pretty low, but many in the UK would be happy to see the Crown skip a generation when the Queenie shuffles off her mortal coil.
William went out of his way to publicly criticize Shatner for his trip to near space, saying it was a waste of Co2, and Shatner should have stayed home to “fix this broken planet” instead.
waste of Co2 ?
Cobalt is a transition metal with a valency of 2, I don’t think it can form molecules of Co2 .
William the Bald is fully into the Green madness of his father. He is also probably looking forward to the day he becomes King and starts receiving his royal £100million a year rake off from leasing the UK seabed to off shore wind farm operators. He has every reason to buy into “Big Green”
When I lived in the UK a Brit friend told me that some futurist claimed that Charles will not take the throne. The Brit was hopeful on that count.
i was too
until wills went rather too green looking as well;-((
I’ve said it before, Lenin, Starlin, Hitler, Mao, Pol-Pot, et al, ALL knew that they must brainwash err sorry educate the children first to achieve their objectives, even that marketing boys & girls learned that one, the pester-power of children, especially at holiday seasons like Christmas!!!
Here’s an exercise, go to a hospital and take a look around at all of the life saving medical devices and implements that are made of petroleum derived plastic.
Too right. I’ve just come out of hospital(s) after a month’s stay, and I spent the time looking at all the petroleum-derived fixtures/equipment there. There was almost nothing that could/should be produced without oil or coal. Possibly the roof tiles and the bricks, but they still have to be fired, and using wood would probably deforest the country in short order.
Without them, I would be dead. (Admittedly, some would say “Good”. I beg to differ!)
There’s no disputin’ that we’re glad you’re still here.
Many thanks, Jeff.
We need you … lots of idiots to annoy
That is actually one of the best arguments against burning gasoline, oil, etc: it uses up valuable feedstuffs for making useful plastics and thousands of other things. I’d like to see a Green dithering between gasoline and plastic.
No. Gasoline cannot be used to make plastics (but plastics can be broken down to create fuels).
If gasoline isn’t used for fuel, it would primarily be a waste product. The costs of finding, extracting, and refining oil, as well as the cost of getting rid of ‘waste’ products like gasoline, would have to be recovered in the price of plastics and other oil-derived products. You would witness a huge jump in inflation when that happens.
I would not give you a job in my refinery. With a cracking plant you can break any long hydrocarbon chain into arbitrary short pieces. so splitting 8 -10 length chains into 2 length chains is easy peasy. Basic building blocks for plastics are I think ethane and butane . so you can make palstics from any old crude oil
You mean ethylene and propene, which are then polymerized to plastics such as polyethylene (PET) and polypropylene (PP).
Remember, the ruling elitists don’t use “crude” oil derived fuels, because they are educated & civilised, they only power their gas-guzzling Rolls-Royce’s/Bentleys/Range-Rovers/Jeeps etc, using “refined” gasoline, it’s a better class of fuel, naturally!!! The crude stuff is for the peasants!!! ;-))
Gasoline did not come into use until the internal combustion engines of cars required it. Kerosene preceded gasoline, and is a far more practical and useful product.
Agreed – a couple of years ago I had a lengthy stay in hospital and was very aware that every time someone approached with a needle to be inserted, a procedure to be done or some vital sign to be read and recorded, sterile, safe and efficient delivery of medicine or procedures could not happen without the use of plastic, metal, glass or ceramic materials many times per day.
sort of right
the old sterilizable gowns and equipment were a damn sight more eco friendly and having a revival after so much waste is accruing from throwaway ppe etc, go to get 7 tiny sticthes out doc unrolls a plastic pack, plastic cotton pad 2pr plastic tweezers and a pair of steel scissors…and every bit of that is THROWN away! yup steel scissors a 1xuse. disgusted
lucky my docs nice and sane and I score the scissors for a lifetime use ditto the tweezers for up to a yr or more depending on what I use them for/on
the present and ongoing shipping trucking supply issues really WILL make the need for using closer to home products, that can be save reused and produced where they are required. autoclaves get a comeback;-)
Even the bricks are coal fired.
A modern circular brick kiln is a highly automated continuous process :-
https://www.yfbrickmachine.com/detail-290-rotarycirclerotatingtunnelkiln
The coal dust is blended into the clay and the bricks actually burn – self-fired if you like.
Once the process is started (usually by gas) it becomes self-sustaining.
Firing temperature is controlled by limiting air and exhaust flows.
Whodathunkit!
Disputin,
I have some really bad news for you. Those bricks are made from a clay which has the same high fossil organic content as the petroleum source rocks that produce the fossil fuel found underground in sandstone reservoirs. Making bricks is done by burning the fossil carbon in the brick clay during firing. It is imperative that brick making using the fossil organic matter found in ancient clays be stopped to save the climate.
Or take away the plastic tooth brush and the plastic tube of tooth paste.
The stinkies don’t use toothpaste – or soap for that matter
Don’t laugh.
https://rainydayfoods.com/content/soapmaking-lye-to-fat-ratio-table/
That’s animal fat.
How many of the envirosnuts are also into “Animal Rights”?
“No drugs or products tested on animals!!!”
eyup thats why they use olive oil etc instead…makes rather nice soap actually.
My son got me one those types of soap. Almond oil, spearmint, rosemary and other stuff. (My wife was looking a soap that didn’t a film on the shower walls.)
It was nice. Didn’t last that long but I liked it.
My wife looked it up. $10+ dollars a bar.
I didn’t like it that much.
I’ll stick with the Zest she had started to buy.
Those folks that reverted to straight and safety razor shaving prize mutton fat soaps for shaving.
It’s tough to beat natural lanolin content for softening skin and beard.
Was it not in the movie, “Kentucky-Fried Movie”, that plastics were the subject of a sketch, & in one part the narrator said” what about your husband’s pace-maker?” The husband promptly fell dead from a heart-attack!!!
Please don’t confuse them with inconvenient facts, they can’t handle the stress it causes them!!!
Hi, ok, but do you want to be treated with the help of green materials?
.. and wrapped in plastic
How can you have any pudding when you won’t eat your meat?
underrated comment 😀
I think “Hey Teacher, leave them kids alone” would also be a quote on point
And then, on the Monday after next, you introduce her to the gardening hand tools in the shed and inform her that she has one year in which to establish a 1-person subsistence farm in ‘her’ part of the garden in order to feed herself.
She also has to feed the bees, which requires that she include nectar-producing flowers that bees will like, along with the veggies and other plants. And get a couple of egg-laying hens to turn loose in the garden to keep the pests out of your veggies. Did that when I was a 5-year-old and we had a nice, big garden: let the hens we raised go into the garden and clean up the bugs. Very, very eco-friendly and the hens were quite delicious when roasted. 🙂
I recommend ducks for that. They’re far more fastidious, lay bigger eggs and make great pets. Of course the bi-products of “pond water fertilizer” and Peking duck are nothing to sneeze at, either.
Hens, ducks – add a couple of turkeys to it and a couple of pigs to turn the soil with their snouts, and subsequently become ham, bacon, and roast pork. I think we are on the same track here.
A long time ago, when my dad was no longer up to gardening, I cut up a couple of russet potatoes and buried them in the garden in small mounds of dirt. The cuts grew plants and at some point, I dug up the roots (fruit of the vine, as it were) and there lay a half bushel of baby potatoes, which I took up to the back steps, hosed down so that they were clean and let them dry, and then took them into the kitchen. My mother, who had less acuity than a box of chocolates, asked me where I got them. I said I had planted them six weeks (or so) earlier and they were ready for supper now.
She was happy to have them. They were delicious.
Without being smug about it, I would like to ask if that spoiled child in the subject article has even the faintest idea where her food comes from and what would happen if her parents decided to not provide her with store-bought foods? The plethora of fresh foods at grocery stores is misleading these days. I have never taken my food resources for granted, but I do see that ‘for granted” attitude in this kid. I think her parents are doing her a favor, if that story is real.
Of course you’ve hit the nail on the head. If a child is exposed to the real rewards of home grown produce (the hidden magical bounty of potatoes is a great example) all sorts of insights follow … however —
Parents are pretty much being removed from directly affecting their children. The state is imposing more and more restrictions and now, apparently the government is going after them for terrorism if they don’t support the woke agenda in schools.
Like you, I just hope the story is true … at least one kid will get her head in order.
chooks in a growing garden =zero food. they go in before and after NOT during
In these woke times they’ll be up for child abuse
Unfortunately, this is probably true. There’s likely an army of ambulance chasers drawing up papers right now.
I wasn’t joking – that’s how they work
Yeah, I know
There are other ways — which is becoming more popular lately. Don’t reward kids that choose to engage in bad behavior.
At the same time, there will be trials of people for child abuse for feeding their children meat and dairy products, and clothing them in oil-derived products. That way, they can make it impossible to maintain the family unit. It would be much easier for them if they could take all the children, and indoctrinate them 24×7.
This is a wonderful story!
Reality vs Marxism is always entertaining,
especially when the spoiled woke/proleterian with no skill (age is irrelevant,as they never develop real life skills)realize that
that the only safe zone can be found at
the empty shelves of supermarkets
and that the only heating in winter is the hot air from the AGW propaganda front or c burning cities.
The above story sounds too good to be true.
Jordan Peterson says, “Clean up your room.” Until you have proper control of your own life, forget about telling others how to live their lives.
Peterson points out that most people wouldn’t think about fixing the pollution control system of their car, but they don’t hesitate to tell folks how to run the world. Hint, the world is a much much more complex problem than the car.
So, my dear children, can you fix the car? If not, what makes you think you know how to fix the environment?
In Legates acceptance speech yesterday he told the story of his daughter coming home from school with horrible stories about the Pacific Garbage Patch. He said that if it was that bad, they should be able to see it on Google Earth. Of course they couldn’t find it but his daughter still believed her teacher anyway.
Given Legates’ experience, deprogramming the kids could be a challenge. They have too much reinforcement from their friends and teachers.
If parents really did enforce tough love on their kids, like making them take the school bus instead of being driven, my guess is the next thing to happen would be a visit from a social worker.
Nothing deprograms people like a hearty dose of reality.
You’ve left out an important modifier … giant swirling plastic patch “the size of Texas”. Because Texas baaaaad mmmmKay?
But – but – but … if it is that obvious and concentrated, shouldn’t it be mindlessly easy to “harvest” it for valuable hydrocarbons? 🙂
Not easy but the harvesting has begun.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/nearly-20-000-pounds-trash-183938667.html
Great article, many thanks. I was very wrong about being easy but nevertheless it’s possible and they’re having success.
I don’t get why so many parents don’t let their kids take the school bus, which they are paying for with their taxes, and instead drive them in the morning and collect them in the afternoon. This was very common in Virginia and I suspected there was something ugly lurking behind the stated reason that it was a hardship for the kids to be on the bus for so long. Having gone along for the ride a few times to collect some of these kiddos, the hardship for the kiddo is nothing compared to the interruption of the parental day.
There is an excellent book, The Coddling of the American Mind. It points out that we have become way too protective of children. That means they never grow up. It’s like we’ve created a generation of aged toddlers who throw a tantrum over the slightest microaggression.
The good news is that folks have realized the badness of helicopter parenting and we’re now embracing the fact that kids need to learn to evaluate risk. The trend is to design playgrounds that allow children challenge themselves and learn therefrom. link The royal road to learning leads through a few bumps, bruises, and the occasional scraped knee.
I totally agree! I see too much of it and always want to step in and try to do an intervention. I am the Auntie who encourages exploration and we always have fun. It is how I grew up and it seemed to work for me.
1960/70’s England, I walked to school and back as a 5/6 year old. More than a mile. Nothing bad ever happened. I couldn’t understand why (a minority at that time) of other pupils were brought by car.
I always walked about a mile to school, there were no buses for us. Starting in the first grade until I graduated high school. It was excellent exercise and didn’t do me any harm.
But was it uphill both ways?
only when it snowed, which was all the time judging by how those stories usually go.
Starting in 3rd grade, it was about a half mile walk for me. Before that I lived out in the country, and it was about a 10 mile bus ride, after about a 3 mile car ride to the bus stop.
Walked to school until High School, then it was buses, until I got a car. So, 6 years of walking, nothing bad ever happened.
Dedicated school buses tend to be a suburban/rural phenomenon, at least in America. In cities it’s common for children to use public transportation and be issued a pass for same. The hint is that the bus “leaves every hour”. If it were a school bus, it would have one fixed (more or less) pickup time. In my town the school board declines to provide transportation to our sons’ schools (parochial). We get a stipend “in lieu of transportation”, with the state actually footing the bill.
Back in the 1960s, the high school that I attended had the great bus movement where buses with specific destinations filled up with kids and left immediately after school ended.
Those kids that had extracurricular activities had an opportunity every hour until 7PM to take a bus home.
Instead of specific destinations, these buses were generalized with the driver taking the kids, one buy one, to their local bus stops.
That is, kids that stayed after school for detention, extra study, club meetings, sports activities, etc. had a chance every hour to catch a bus home; with the final bus of the evening at 7PM.
None of the schools my children attended had ride accommodations beyond the initial school dismissal bus ride home.
Then again, my high school had well over a thousand kids per grade with the high school holding junior, 11th, and senior, 12th, grades. None of the schools around us are that large.
Yes, I walked to/from grade school and during freshman and sophomore years of HS. Grade school was 3/4 of a mile and all downhill in the morning.
Freshman and sophomore years, the school was in the opposite direction and mostly uphill in the morning.
I appreciated that downhill walk after practice every day.
Junior and senior years were at a high school three miles away. I usually took the last bus home every day.
I don’t remember any real bad weather while walking to/from school. Got soaked a few times, was thoroughly chilled a number of times, slumped from the heat often, nearly blown backwards a few times, stumbled through pea soup thick fog a couple of times, all normal weather.
So did all of the other kids that lived in the neighborhood.
Unfortunately, in many places these days, a responsible parent does not allow their child to take the school bus. If you think discipline in the school buildings is bad – it is worse on the buses. (Plus, in some places, you are going to have to go to the bus stop with your child to protect them, and the same to pick them up.)
This near molly-coddling of our children stems in large part to instilled parental fear, the fear of the mysterious “dirty old-man in a dirty old rain coat”, it’s a subconscious syndrome! When I was a school governor & a member of the PTA, we looked into this by talking to local education authorities & the police force. We concluded that this mysterious “dirty old-man in a dirty old rain coat”, it’s a subconscious myth, almost like a syndrome! In sad sick reality, most attacks/abductions of children were carried out by someone known to the children (not uncommon in most attacks upon people in general), sadly even a member of the near family!!! My ex-wife & I brought our two children up in rural bliss, & we encouraged them to explore, although we were lucky as my in-laws, parental & sibling, lived next door or so, & the nieces went out with them in a small group, they have all turned out to be well-rounded young people!!!
i lived rural and had to get bus for the first yr next place was rural and a shortwalk aged 6, never an issue
city schools were fairly close walks BUT the dirty old men and flashers really DO exist
we had a pair that were pretty regular and word spread so kids paired up at the minimum..a few got nasty shocks and parents reacted so did the police
amazing how the sods never managed to be found!
years later i saw one of them still hanging round school zones and bus stops, they do not stop even when way too old to be more than a sad joke.
“dirty old-man in a dirty old rain coat” doesn’t really apply to the school bus unless you think the bus driver is one of those mythical “dirty old-man in a dirty old rain coat”. Perhaps it might apply to the street corner where the kids wait for the bus, but these days there’s usually one or more parents waiting with their kids (the younger ones at least) to make sure they get on the bus safely, so any mythical “dirty old-man in a dirty old rain coat” is going to stay well away anyway.
As to the subject of parents not allowing their children to ride on a school bus, I think some of that has to do with bullying (and some simply with the fear of bullying). Again, going back to when I was a youngling ridding the school bus, I’d seen other students being picked on while on the bus. The kid is literally trapped on the bus with their tormentors for the length of the ride. Such kids tend to grow up to become the type of parent who don’t want their kids to suffer the same fate, and thus refuse to let them ride the bus.
Bus drivers are bears about keeping the kiddos in their seats and quiet. It is not possible to drive a big school bus when the passengers are engaged in raucous behaviors. The kids have to stay in their seats and speak quietly. Kids that don’t abide by the rules are banned from the bus. This is a real hardship for the parents, especially if both work, so the kid gets in double-trouble if banned. Maybe in the movies the school buses are unsafe for students but according to the drivers I know, this is not the case.
At someone who took the school bus every morning for high school (and while that was a good many years ago, I have no reason to believe things are any different on the school buses of today), I can tell you that “stay in their seats and speak quietly” rarely happened. While it never got as bad as “in the movies” it also was not the serene peaceful picture you try to paint either
Last sentence should have read “it also was not always the serene…”. It varied day to day. some days the bus was quieter than others.
Things may be different in these ZeroTolerance days. Drivers have the ability to ban disruptive kids for first offenses, a week to two weeks. Continued offenses can mean permanent loss of bus privileges.
Drivers have the ability to ban disruptive kids
Having had kids in school not all that long ago, I don’t recall things being like that. More often it turns out that the victims are the ones who get into trouble, especially if they do anything to resist.
From my own experience many years ago, the bullies are quite crafty when it comes to doling out torment while hiding what they’re doing.
“Drivers have the ability to ban disruptive kids”
The drivers of my day had that same ability. It was rarely invoked (kids had to be really, really disruptive and piss off a driver who was already having a bad day before anything like that would happen).
‘the kid gets in double trouble if banned …’
I wouldn’t count on that. I know a good number of school teachers because my wife was one for many years.
When I went to school, if you came home and anything had happened the question was first for YOU to explain what you did to cause a note to be sent. If that passed muster THEN the explainer was the teacher or principal. Now… most parents are asking first what the teacher did to make little Johnny upset. Johnny doesn’t feel he is expected to comply with anything and likely does not.
In the 60’s I used to ride about 40 miles a day on a school bus, mostly on unpaved roads. Time not wasted – reading, thinking, watching the scenery, moving up front to talk to the driver when the bus was empty…
Just so, those long bus rides are great for getting work done.
During my school years I did all three (walk, get driven, take bus). My elementary school was a couple blocks away, so I walks. Junior High was a long walk that involved cross or walking along a couple of really busy streets but considered too close for my neighborhood to be bussed, so my mom drove me to/from school most days. And High school was ever further away, so I went by bus. The point being a number of those parents and their kids are likely in the same boat I was in Junior high too close to bus but far enough that walking might be considered problematic.
I would prefer to belive that parents were just trying to keep their kids safe in Appomattox and Prince William counties.
Prince William County is where I went to school in the 70s. Manassas, VA.
The Pacific Patch is really too small to show up on a google-fu search. The stuff seems to degrade quickly, attracts very small organisms like a single-cell critter with “horns”, and is supplemented by Pacific ships that dump stuff overboard. The plastics are reported to degrade into tiny pellets, which some fish live on. Don’t ask me how, just some info I found on “da interwebs”.
If you’ve ever been near an ocean pier, recall the thick growth of barnacles and other critters (sessile organisms). These sessile organisms develop from cast off sperm and eggs, they float around as plankton until they find a suitable substrate to latch onto. So little barnacle polyp lands of a small piece of plastic, makes a nice attachment, starts to grow a little bit of shell … oop’s too heavy; now that little floaty bit is sinking down to the bottom, where it will permanently become part of the ocean floor … THE END.
Then President Obama ordered the US Navy to find the Great Pacific Ocean Garbage Patch … they were not successful.
Happy to be corrected, but I read a few years back that the vast majority of waste products being dumped into the oceans did not come from the evil wicked capitalistic democratic West, but from the developing countries like China & India, et al!!!
The very being of the Socialist brain/thought process is to destroy everything in its path! Once that is done it then proceeds to replace that which it has destroyed with its own version of it, thereby allowing it to maintain total control over the people it purports to be in support & protective of!!!
There are a lot of people that should be sentenced to zero-emission life. Arnold, Al, Leonardo, Barack Hussein, Bill..
Then they could tell us about the glory of what they preach.
“Sentenced?” They would have to be forced to live what they say they believe?
Ah, but you should leave Obama & Big Al alone to enjoy their retirement on their multi-million dollar sea-front properties, they have the power to command that the seas don’t rise near their luxury mansions!!!
I read that story with light differences at least 5 x
Is Greta’s blouse made of silk or synthetic? She can afford silk.
If is it is silk, no doubt the raw materials were brought from the East by camel over the Silk Road. That is the only eco-friendly way to do that.
Or by wooden sailing ship, without iron nails. And of course no tar. Just plant fiber caulking. And no copper for the bottom, so slowed by barnacles.
I looked for pictures of her with a leather belt or shoes, made from methanogenic cattle, but drew a blank. However, she’s a huge consumer of synthetic fibers and footwear made from fossil fuels. Just a few samples:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRErUQ9J3Q6QB9CZroWWFyW4bLkmSkHlT0rRg&usqp=CAU
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQuO4woAQYDT16NER-dktN5Csfh__–BaXVvw&usqp=CAU
shes got the fashion sense of..words fail me..and her parent let her out like that?
Its buttons seem certain to be of plastic, as opposed to sea shells, etc.
Anyway, Greta has a negative attitude and I wonder whether this will greatly impact her future mental and physical health. As far as alarmists are concerned, I much prefer Lovelock’s attitude. (Thank you AntonyIndia for mentioning his BBC interview.)
How does his attitude differ from Greta Blah Blah? Seems the same to me. He’s more optimistic, but still an alarmist. He likes nuclear and that’s good of course. But he hates fossil fuels.
I can’t speak for Lovelock who seems to have bought into the hysteria, but there’s nothing wrong with wanting to develop a technology to replace fossil fuels. Extracting them and burning them is messy even though it’s much cleaner than it used to be thanks to human innovation. If there’s a way to wean ourselves from fossil fuels in the long term and replace them with an equally practical, reliable, and beneficial energy source that is cleaner, we should do it. But that’s for inventors and the market to decide, not politicians. Given the human capacity for innovation, I wouldn’t be surprised if fossil fuel reliance dwindled to almost nothing in a century or so. But the evidence of an imminent threat to the planet is overblown or non-existent.
Is there any way we can have the adult activista go on this regimen? Actually, they are already working on this and worse for themselves. This fossil fuel shortage will have Mother and Father Earth imposing it.
No, No, they are working on this regimen for US. They will fly, drive, heat their giant homes (just how big is Kensington Palace, anyway?), etc., while pushing the policies that make it difficult and expensive of rest to do those things. Charles, Camilla, Will and Kate will not be cold, nor will AlGore, AOC or Bernie Sanders.
All part of the great “re-set” back to a neo feudal system I fear!!! I am growing my hair longer so that I will be able to have a forelock to tug when I have to, etc!!!
FF shortage is supply with held just like the 70s scare was but a lot of good 6 n8 cyl cars got trashed
some eco saver huh?
Thank you. My day is much better
This is exactly what my parents would have done had I started spouting Greta-like self-righteousness, and exactly what I’d do if my kid did. It’s the responsibility of parents to teach the consequences of dumb ideas, which our schools clearly fail to do.
Parents aren’t supposed to bring up children anymore, the state has an army of experts for that.
Parents are expected to house, feed and clothe only. No more than that.
Not even expected to feed. Hence school lunch programs.
Do you remember how well Michelle Obama’s new and improved “green” and healthful school lunch program went? Even the deprived, inner city kids wouldn’t eat it.
And now the House wants to start pre-knidergarten, with kids going to “school” at 3 and 4 years old. Get’em early, and provide free daycare.
Didn’t you mean “provide free decay”?
My wife and decided that she would “work” at home raising our kids.
(Once the kids were in school, she did part-time stuff during the hours they were in school.)
It cost us financially over the years. But, when I look at our kids now, we suffered no real loss.
Reminds of a story.
A Dad had been been telling his teenage son to stop comin home later than allowed. The kid kept staying out late.
One night the kid found his bed disassembled in the hallway.
(I never heard of the results, but good for the Dad!)
One suggestion: Regulate the heat and A/C in her room according to the wind and solar output that day.
At night, if there’s no wind, turn power off in her room. Should be simple enough; just trip the circuit breakers to her room. Turn it on on sunny days during the day, and any time the wind is blowing. Tell her she can buy a good sized battery with her own money if she wants to charge it while the power is turned on and keep herself warm or cool herself off for a few extra minutes a day.
In other words, let her experience now the life we’re all destined to be living soon if this renewable nonsense keeps gaining steam.
There’s a mention in one of the comments about the Pacific Garbage Patch and how it can’t be seen on Google Earth. As it consists of more-or-less smashed up bits of objects not the objects themselves (some of it microscopic) then it’s not surprising that it’s not visible from space. Anyone know if the sargassum rafts are visible? I doubt it.
Garbage patches can be seen using some ingenious reflections from the GPS satellites which detects smoothed area which contain the microplastic pollution.
So why are the great ocean gyres smooth? Is it because the are not stirred by much wind or interacting currents? This means not much mixing to bring nutrients to near the surface, forcing the plankton to live deeper in lower light levels. If I were a plankton I’d get more light by releasing lipids to smooth the surface
JF
The thing about plastics in seawater is that they get broken up into smaller and smaller pieces until they get to about 0.01 mm, and then pouff, they get eaten by bacteria. That is why there are no garbage patches found.
Isn’t nature wonderful?
They actually provide a substrate & food in locations that would otherwise be virtually free of life.
But – but – but … if it is that obvious and concentrated, shouldn’t it be mindlessly easy to “harvest” it for valuable hydrocarbons? 🙂
But if Pacific Garbage Patch can’t be seen, where did the MSM come up with all those pictures of it?
Weren’t some of the early photos of the ‘Pacific Garbage Patch’ actually taken in Manila harbour in the Philippines?
Probably the same place they get all those photoshopped polar bear photos. Isn’t photoshop wonderful!.
When the garbage patch first hit the news, there were no pictures of it. That’s what made me suspicious. They gave descriptions of “garbage as far as the eye could see”, but no pictures. They talked about garbage on island shores as much as “five feet deep,” but again, no pictures. Some early pictures that started showing up turned out to be plastic bottles at a recycling plant, and close ups of garbage on the shores of India and other places that use rivers as dumps. Also, closeup photos of castaway fishing nets were described as “islands of garbage forming.” If Google Earth can show my car in my driveway, it should be able to show an “island of garbage.”
The belief in univariate solutions to massive and complex issues, CO2 reduction solves all environment issues, is no more than a cult. The actions promoted by belief in such cults are the lazy and resentful person’s substitute for actual accomplishments.
If stupid does not hurt stupid people do not learn. Make stupid hurt as many times as it takes to make stupid people learn.
Civilization is not a Darwinian survival trait. There are more parasites growing on the backs of the productive with every passing year.
Komerade – I have long maintained that civilization is anti-evolutionary: it weakens the species.
George Floyd never learned.
Yep, had someone in his life made stupid hurt he would not have swallowed those stamp bags of fentanyl and ODed.
We should impose these same restrictions on our political leaders and their media and celebrity allies. I don’t doubt we’d see the same door-slamming and whining. 🙂
Really, you guys should post a spew warning! I laughed so hard, I startled the cat out of a perfectly good nap, buried under her heat-reflecting polyester shaggy blanket in the sunshine.
Still laughing! Thank you for a fine start to a very good walk into winter.
Now you know at least one tipping point 😀
OT a bit but…climate march in Grand rapids, Mich.
Saturday, October 23, 2021 2:00 PM – 4:00 PM ET
Ah-Nab-Awen Park, 220 FRONT Ave NW, Grand Rapids, MI 49504
Join us on October 23rd to call on the City of Grand Rapids to take bold, transformative climate action! There will be speakers, stations for advocacy actions, and a show of public support for Grand Rapids to work with the community to enact city-wide carbon neutrality by 2030. This is the first climate-related demonstration in Grand Rapids in two years and it comes at a critical time in history for governments at all levels to act with urgency and prioritize climate justice. If you are concerned about the climate crisis (or interested to learn more), come on out! You are important to this growing movement. Register below, save the date, and invite your friends and family!
“comes at a critical time in history for governments at all levels to act with urgency and prioritize climate justice.”
I’m sorry, did I miss something? I thought we missed the “last chance” about 20 years ago.
And every year since!
On the subject of waste try searching for ‘Henderson Island + Patrick Moore’. With luck it will take you to an extract from his book “Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom”.
In short, according to a 2017 paper by Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, Henderson Island is the most polluted place on earth except, as Moore points out, it is probably the most inaccessible place on the planet (he explains it takes several weeks to get there from just about anywhere on earth at a cost if several thousand dollars) so nobody can confirm or deny and Google Earth Pro shows no evidence of plastic waste. (The island has no dock and is uninhabited.)
No offense to Mr. Moore, but it’s only 1,000 miles from French Polenesia or Easter Island. I’d guess you could rent a cabin cruiser to run you out there without too much trouble.
D. J.,
I think you just made his point! Only a thousand mile trip in a rented cabin cruiser; from Polynesia or Easter Island! Maybe you could find a water taxi with reasonable rates!
Oh, and it’s Dr. Moore; Ph.D in ecology don’t you know!
“last chances” are like “final notices”. No matter how much you try to ignore them, another one will be issued before long.
GR area was a nice place to live but recently the wokesters started to take over. In 10 years they will make it look like Detroit.
“If you are concerned about the climate crisis…”
I’m very concerned about the real crisis which is the false belief that a climate crisis exists and that even if it did, we could do anything about it.
The reason for the fake crisis is that emotional manipulation is a powerful way to poison minds and it seems to be the go to strategy applied by the political left to bully their way into power, remain in power and get what they want in stark defiance of science, truth, justice, ethics, the rule of law and freedom itself.
What a great way to ruin a perfectly good October Saturday, spend it being preached to by a bunch of deluded fantasists.
Pamela,
Not all of them are deluded fantasists; many are deluded religious fanatics as well!
Which “climate crisis” are you referring to? Surly your off topic announcement is intended as satire … no? If you’re trying to be serious, do you know where you are? This is not a Tick-Tock friendly web site.
Ah, yes. They should check at the park entrance for ANY cold weather gear made from synthetics and confiscate it.
Sorry, I’ll be sorting my socks.
Genius
The daughter should really welcome this, because if she manages to make it and create a happy life, it will give her a lot more credibility than her teachers and classmates at school. People (and I in particular) will be much more receptive to her message if she leads through example and practices what she preaches.
It is really simple to demand sacrifices of others, but not so easy to sacrifice yourself. I think the lesson here should be: “don’t demand sacrifices of others until you are willing to sacrifice yourself“.
Sorry, but “don’t demand sacrifices of others until you MAKE the sacrifice yourself“
Give me about 6 to 9 months with that spoilt child, wherein she must do her own laundry with an old Maytag washing machine (with the squeeze rollers and the two rinse-water bins) and a wood-fired stove for cooking (top) and baking (below) and a genuine Amish-built icebox (yes, they do create those – fine workmanshp) and raise her own food in the form of protein (poultry, hogs, cows) and carbohydrates (veggie garden, fruit trees) and the annual release of ladybugs to fight bugs Mother Nature’s way, and she will be SO glad to get back to civilization that she will never backtalk her parents again.
She will, however, have to memorize important stuff and recite it. I picked her first effort, Hamlet’s soliloquy:
To be, or not to be, that is the question:
Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And by opposing end them.
She might think herself to have been sent to the “undiscovered country, from whose bourne, no traveler returns.” If she survives that – the real world stuff, with no electronics, just a 3-party land line and a radio – back to the 1950s, folks!!! – and having to do everything the old-fashioned way – she may appreciate her parents a bit more.
Or she’ll go full-blown bull goose loony.
We really haven’t trashed the planet. But that’s what constant propaganda will do.
and this….
China’s new hypersonic missile demonstrated an advanced space capability that caught US intelligence by surprise, report says (yahoo.com)
Just for the record. Most people in the Netherlands do not walk on wooden shoes. Never. With the only exception for its usage by a few in the garden when tending to the plants.
However, we do walk on water, occasionally ….
I have a Dutch origin fellow working for me, he doesn’t walk on water but he does have to watch where he’s going as he’s 6’10” tall
😀
She’s just a Dancing Queen
https://youtu.be/OI81yqgRWGc
More like Lady Gag Gag.
It looks like she’s finally doing some normal teenager things like dancing, singing, and having a few laughs. Perhaps there’s hope for her yet.
I trust that everyone is aware of the true symbolism of the FFF acronym = 666
The preferred signature of the usual suspects.
MG
F is 15 in hexadecimal and 1 + 5 = 6 so I can see where you are getting 666 out of FFF, but frankly if you have to put that much geekery and effort into getting there, you can be sure you’re just seeing what you are looking for rather than any actual “hidden meaning”. Granted, it is a perfectly fitting “signature” for the usual suspects but that’s more by happenstance than design.
Rather than going through all those hoops, you could just count: F is the 6th letter of the English alphabet.
Should be FFS.
I wonder if this is real
I don’t think Doctors for the Environment Australia would approve of this treatment-
Hotter temperatures and extreme weather linked to mental distress, suicide (msn.com)
You reckon all the paid catastrophists and doomsdayers aren’t crawling out of the woodwork with COP26 in the offing-
How climate change is threatening Australia’s favourite fruits (msn.com)
Maybe they’re all trying to get tickets to the game as something is certainly affecting all these nuts and fruits at present.
Yes, this is a good example of why it is ridiculous to blame the fossil fuel producers for global warming. If you don’t like the results of fossil fuel use stop using it.
Sorry for piling on, but thank you so very much for this. Makes my week. Also highly recommend that doomsday prediction chart at extinction clock.org. Brilliant stuff. We need to start a Truth Thursday movement and make everyone walk the talk.
To be fair heating the bus is using waste heat from the engine. So they can keep doing that, however on a electric bus they would be trading warmth for range so definitely e-busses should not be heated.
Bernie never grew up.
Joe Manchin reportedly vetoed Biden clean-energy proposal, gets in public fight with Bernie Sanders (yahoo.com)
That’s how to do it! If only we could do this with the so-called “adults” too.
Wonderful! I sent this one on and it should be a guide for anyone that has an ecobrat trying to shame them.
The girls; no lipstick, nail polish, deoderants, hairdryers, soap, candles, shower curtains, shower-caps, eye-liner, perfumes, hair dyes, ointments, contact lenses, mobiles.
The boys; no xbox playstation type devices.
Should convince if applied at the correct age.
Age – let me count the ways …
I’m so old I can remember music
I’m so old I can remember raising potatoes in the garden, along with popcorn and squash of various sorts. And hand pumping water when the motorized pump needed repairs.
I’m so old it takes me all night to do what I used to be able to do all night.
Those utube comments LOL – Heavy Gretal is here to stay
Back about 1975, the ex and I lived in Idaho. Her 12 year old daughter came home from school and soundly castigated me for my failure to be ecologically aware. Oh…..
OK, so from now on, we would turn the heat down to 55 degress F. ( the coldest we saw while living there was -35, but only once. Besides, it was a DRY cold.). Also, drive the car only on Saturday for the weeks shopping. The little darling could take the bus to school, I took the bus to work, and we could walk to church.
That was the last time ever, I had to listen to that horse puckey.
This reminds me of a story I read about a Canadian POW when he was freed from a Japanese camp and returned home. When his children complained about food at home he put them on the kind of food he had in the POW camp and the complaints stopped pretty quickly.
An often overlooked aspect of WWII! Japanese treatment of Allied POWs was beyond cruel; the bushido philosophy rampant in their military saw surrender as a disgrace and dishonor; making prisoners less than human, to be treated as such!
In other words, the prisoners were deplorable.
Some prisoners were cannibalized by their captors.
One of my great uncles was an aerial photographer in WWII, shot down over Burma. He would never talk about what it was like in the POW camp.
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I copped similar lecturing from my nieces. I replied “Well, you can eat crickets then”. They wondered why I was so angry to wish that upon them.
Tell her that an E-bike will be useless since with no oil production there will be no more roads. Where does she think the tarmac used to surface the roads comes from? I don’t think E-bikes do well at all on dirt tracks.
Same for having a dry home. The same material is used to create roofing materials and to seal them against the weather.
Oh, hey! A properly thatched roof does not leak!
OT — if the Germans are so so concerned about fossil fuels and the climate, I wonder if they have reigned in the unlimited speeds on the autobahns.
But can she dance?
Greta can dance! Greta is human! Not puppet! See no strings!
Similar to this one slapped up here on WUWT earlier this year:
If you get the point and tire of reading, do at least scroll down to the last line (-:
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One crisp winter morning in Sweden, a cute little girl named Greta woke up to a perfect world, one in which there were no petroleum products ruining the earth. She tossed aside her cotton sheet and wool blanket and stepped out onto a dirt floor covered with willow bark that had been pulverized with rocks.
“What’s this?” she asked.
“Pulverized willow bark,” replied her fairy godmother.
“What happened to the carpet?” she asked.
“The carpet was nylon, which is made from butadiene and hydrogen cyanide, both made from petroleum,” came the response.
Greta smiled, acknowledging that adjustments are necessary to save the planet, and moved to the sink to brush her teeth where instead of a toothbrush, she found a willow, mangled on one end to expose wood fiber bristles.
“Your old toothbrush?” noted her godmother, “Also nylon.”
“Where’s the water?” asked Greta.
“Down the road in the canal,” replied her godmother, Just make sure you avoid water with cholera in it”
“Why’s there no running water?” Greta asked, becoming a little peevish.
“Well,” said her godmother, who happened to teach engineering at MIT, “Where do we begin?”
There followed a long monologue about how sink valves need elastomer seats and how copper pipes contain copper, which has to be mined and how it’s impossible to make all-electric earth- moving equipment with no gear lubrication or tires and how ore has to be smelted to make metal, and that’s tough to do with only electricity as a source of heat, and even if you use only electricity, the wires need insulation, which is petroleum-based, and though most of Sweden’s energy is produced in an environmentally friendly way because of hydro and nuclear, if you do a mass and energy balance around the whole system, you still need lots of petroleum products like lubricants and nylon and rubber for tires and asphalt for filling potholes and wax and iPhone plastic and elastic to hold your underwear up while operating a copper smelting furnace and . . .
“What’s for breakfast?” interjected Greta, whose head was hurting.
“Fresh, range-fed chicken eggs,” replied her godmother. “Raw.”
“How so, raw?” inquired Greta.
“Well, . . .” And once again, Greta was told about the need for petroleum products like transformer oil and scores of petroleum products essential for producing metals for frying pans and in the end was educated about how you can’t have a petroleum-free world and then cook eggs. Unless you rip your front fence up and start a fire and carefully cook your egg in an orange peel like you do in Boy Scouts. Not that you can find oranges in Sweden anymore.
“But I want poached eggs like my Aunt Tilda makes,” lamented Greta.
“Tilda died this morning,” the godmother explained. “Bacterial pneumonia.”
“What?!” interjected Greta. “No one dies of bacterial pneumonia! We have penicillin.”
“Not anymore,” explained godmother “The production of penicillin requires chemical extraction using isobutyl acetate, which, if you know your organic chemistry, is petroleum- based. Lots of people are dying, which is problematic because there’s not an easy way of disposing of the bodies since backhoes need hydraulic oil and crematoriums can’t really burn many bodies using as fuel Swedish fences and furniture, which are rapidly disappearing being used on the black market for roasting eggs and staying warm.”
This represents only a fraction of Greta’s day, a day without microphones to exclaim into and a day without much food, and a day without carbon-fiber boats to sail in, but a day that will save the planet.
Tune in tomorrow when Greta needs a root canal and learns how Novocain is synthesized
You left out the part about no electricity, and no house lights because it is illegal to hunt whales for their fat, which was rendered into oil.
I’m not the author of that funny bit of mockery, if I know who it was, I’d have included a credit. After a short search, it appeared here on WattsUpWithThat posted by Anthony Watts and a h/t to Richard Courtney on Facebook LINK
Thanks for that info!
This is a beautiful narrative from the family in Germany. It is a modern fairy tale that all would-be ‘Green‘ children around the World should experience.
Priceless!
A loving but firm slap-up-the-side-of-the-head to wake up the “woke” daughter they love.
There’s still over 6,000 fossil-fuel derived products that could be removed from the FFF drones.
I predict a mind-change within losing 100 of them
well done
I wish more parents would educate there children to open there eyes and mind
Maybe we should do this with politicians.
Great parents. Perhaps they could also talk to the school and insist that the school also practice what it preaches so cutting off the heating in a German winter when the energy is not coming from sun or wind – most of winter I expect. i expect the next year to be a bit of a hilarious nightmare as systems fail all over the west. At some point, it islikly that the peasants may really revolt and perhaps we could start with stopping all unnecessary activity. At the universities I would start with anything that is not STEM. Alternatively we could announce what is effectively starting to happen which is that you can eat or heat but not both.
I wish my children were still school age so I could conduct the same eco experience for them. Thankfully mine are al grown up with pretty normal attitudes to these Green loon ideas currently circulating.
I have advised them if they wish to worship at the altar of St Greta to feel free to do so. I will happily donate their share of the fossil fueled inheritance, to a good cause of my choosing….that seems to quell all arguments. 🙂
Thank you for this
Now do politicians.
What’s next, Smart Green Seppuku?
What could possibly go wrong…….
Facebook plans to hire 10,000 in Europe to build ‘metaverse’ – ABC News (go.com)
No parents, no leadership, no government…
Did someone say Portland?
‘Lawless city?’ Worry after Portland police don’t stop chaos – ABC News (go.com)
This made my day! Absolutely wonderful parenting on display.
What about giving her a greenhouse to grow her own food with all the carbon dioxide removed – that would be interesting to watch!
Hey, back in the day I did walk for Bangladesh but not for Biafra.
Kudos to these parents! If Greta’s parents turned off the heat in her room, things would get mighty chilly in a Swedish winter, and we would never hear from Greta again.
Oh that our children were young enough to do this to!
This is why I take great delight in driving about in a 25 year old diesel vehicle it really winds up the eco loons especially when I say going by lifetime usage it’s better than a modern flammable battery one.
James Bull
Almost everywhere there are practioners of ancient arts; e.g., weaver, spinner, knitter, wood worker, bowl and spoon carvers, Dutch shoe makers, and, of course, those practioners of the ancient art of farming.
Birthing sheep, raising sheep, shearing sheep, cleaning harvested wool, spinning thread and yarn from that wool, warping a loom then weaving fabric are all available at the nearest weavers guild/club/organization.
Farmers can always use a little help. Someone local may be willing to train a new worker over the summer. I doubt they’ll be able to use a girl for harvesting and storing hay. But, she should be able to open the bales and carry the hay to the cows while she cleans the barn.
It’s a rarity, nowadays, for workers to hand milk cows, sheep or goats. But learning to wash, sterilize, rinse animals before hooking them up to the apparatus should be enough.
Be sure to point out that without fossil fuels she would be hand milking every animal.
Tell her that all of that exposure to lanolin and milkfat will help her skin.
Time spent working where food is raised or grown is always time well spent, even if the pay is poor.
Just tell your kid to handwash her clothes and sheets – no machine. She will understand why there was not much time for doing protests already a century ago.
Fabulous. If only more parents would do the same.