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Prince Charles Adds to His List of Climate Last Chances

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Prince Charles, the climate hero who converted his antique Aston Martin to run on fine wine and cheese biofuel, has continued his tradition of issuing last chance warnings for major climate conferences.

‘Last-chance saloon’: Prince Charles urges Scott Morrison to attend Cop26 climate summit

Prince of Wales warns of ‘catastrophic’ impact to planet if more ambitious action not taken in Glasgow

Prince Charles has urged the Australian prime minister, Scott Morrison, to attend this month’s critical Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow, saying it could be the world’s last chance to take action.

In a wide-ranging interview with the BBC, the Prince of Wales was asked about Australia and Morrison as he discussed the climate crisis and the 2021 UN climate change conference, which begins at the end of the month.

The Prince warned of a “catastrophic” impact to the planet if more ambitious action was not taken on the climate, adding he was worried world leaders would “just talk” when they meet in Glasgow for Cop26.

When the BBC interviewer told the Prince of Wales that Morrison had not officially confirmed his attendance, Australia’s future monarch said he was aware he would be accused of meddling, but action was needed immediately.

“You gently try to suggest there may be other ways of doing things, in my case. Otherwise, you lot accuse me of interfering and meddling, don’t you?” the Prince said.

When asked why it was important a world leader like Morrison attend, he said: “Well, that’s what I’m trying to say all the time, and the point being that this is a last-chance saloon, literally.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/12/last-chance-saloon-prince-charles-urges-scott-morrison-to-attend-cop26-climate-summit

Prince Charles “last chance” on the 2014 Paris Agreement:-

A new global pact on climate change, due to be signed this year in Paris, should be a “Magna Carta for the Earth”, Prince Charles has urged.

He said this year marked potentially the “last chance” to save the world from the perils of global warming, with the Paris conference and the United Nations’ plan to replace the millennium development goals with a new set of sustainable development targets. “We simply cannot let this opportunity go to waste. There is just too much at stake, and has been for far too long.”

He told a meeting of forestry and climate experts in London: “In the 800th anniversary year of the Magna Carta, perhaps this year’s agreement of the new sustainable development goals and a new climate agreement in Paris should be seen as a new Magna Carta for the Earth, and humanity’s relationship with it.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/26/prince-charles-global-pact-climate-change-magna-carta-earth

Prince Charles “last chance” on 2009 – Copenhagen Climate Conference

The symposium of more than 60 scientists, among them 20 Nobel Laureates, is examining the latest developments about climate change. 

On Thursday, they are expected to sign an agreed memorandum of their findings.

The prince told them: “I don’t know about your own experience, but it seems to me that whilst there is now only a mercifully small, if vociferous, number of people who do not accept the science of climate change and who should know better, there are still a great many who fail to recognised the real urgency of the situation. 

“In so many ways we already are in the last chance saloon.” 

“So, somehow, global decision makers have to be persuaded that strong, committed and co-ordinated action is needed now, not in 10 years’ time, or even in five, but now.”

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8070131.stm

I’m sure there are more where they came from.

I think someone could make an awesome COP conference themed carnival ghost train ride. Imagine being strapped in, suddenly Prince Charles appears and warns you it is your last chance. As you’re wiping away the camembert and fine wine, Greta suddenly pops out of a box and starts screaming about her childhood. Travelling on, John Kerry slowly appears out of the murk, burbling something incomprehensible. Next a group of UN apparatchiks rush the train, thrusting random paperwork towards the passengers. Random activists appear at different points, screaming or throwing things. Finally, just as you think you can see a glimmer of light from the exit, Insulate Britain leaps in front of the train, and blocks the tracks.

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John the Econ
October 13, 2021 10:06 am

Oh, and the train stops and won’t move again until you surrender more money to each special interest you encounter.

Hoyt Clagwell
Reply to  John the Econ
October 13, 2021 10:23 am

Or, the train could keep going in a circle forever, repeatedly passing the same sign reading: “The End is Near!”

M Courtney
Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
October 13, 2021 11:25 am

That is the business plan, obviously.
When something actually is a problem, like Covid or the financial crisis, Governments do something instead of just waffling on.

Bryan A
Reply to  M Courtney
October 13, 2021 12:15 pm

Dear Chuck,
While we appreciate all your prior “Last Chance to Avoid Global Climate Catastrophe” warnings as well as your current “Last Chance” warning, we must affectionately decline to attend the Glasgow Event scheduled a few weeks from now.
Unfortunately our own Country is experiencing elevated energy costs induced by unreliable generating sources and we will be forced to devote our time and efforts to ensuring a sufficient supply of Coal to run our reserve generation to ensure our people are warm and the lights remain on over the harsh winter that will arrive soon.

Cordially Yours
Scott

HotScot
Reply to  Bryan A
October 13, 2021 2:15 pm

Cheese and wine dear chap. Nothing but the finest motive power for me no matter the cost to the starving or thirsty.

Jog on, I’m rich and you’re a serf.

Sincerely yours,

Jug eared, wife abusing, academically failed, Ealing comedy caricature of a noble, wealthy toff, with a brother who refuses to face justice and a son who has abandoned his family for a Hollywood Harpy.

Secretly, my name is Idi0t, Charles idi0t….cos I drive an Aston. but I would have to kill you if you knew that. You already know? How did that happen?

Damn, the Walther has jammed because I don’t know how to c0ck a gun. I’m good at c0king everything else up but chambering a round is beyond me.

John
Reply to  HotScot
October 13, 2021 5:31 pm

Tell the peasants to eat cake
Well she lost her head over such an uneducated statement
maybe its time we had a British Revolution that eliminated an out of touch to be monach

ATheoK
Reply to  Bryan A
October 13, 2021 4:30 pm

Dear Chuck:
Stop flapping your arms in the air, wailing and simpering about specious doom claims by parasitic activists.

It’s time you grew a pair and faced up to your responsibilities in leading the United Kingdom into a prosperous future with a high quality of life.

Sea level rise is unchanged, rains and storms are unchanged, dry weather is unchanged, warming is measured in hundredths of a degree with decades of warming measured in fractions of a degree.

That is, there is nothing occurring in weather terms that cannot be addressed and mitigated. Dooming UK civilization to stone age conditions is an absurd approach to governing or addressing climate.

starzmom
Reply to  M Courtney
October 13, 2021 1:18 pm

My impression has been that they all waffle on, no matter the crisis. Almost 2 years out and we are still reeling financially and emotionally from COVID. Most everywhere you go, you are still exhorted to mask up and social distance, even as the vaccine rates are in herd-immunity territory. This is progress?

John Bell
Reply to  starzmom
October 13, 2021 3:04 pm

They will never let go of covid as it is a club of power over the serfs, a seeming moral high ground to protect but really divide and lower everyone, more unfairness, get used to it as this is just part of the ramp up, they need to be dragged in to the streets and spanked, they are all depressed, hateful, hand wringing, paranoid jerks. I could go on!

TonyG
Reply to  starzmom
October 14, 2021 8:45 am

It most certainly IS progress – progress toward increased government control of every facet of life of the masses.

John
Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
October 13, 2021 5:28 pm

I thought it was you collect $200 for passing GO

Brian J. BAKER
Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
October 14, 2021 6:45 am

Or then again:
Data gathered to 2014 showed that there were 3,000 suicides and 800 trespass-related injuries on the European railways each year.[101] In the Netherlands, as many as 10% of all suicides are rail-related.[123] In Belgium where rail service is frequently interrupted due to a high level of suicide by rail, families are expected to cover the substantial cost of rail network standstill.[124]

They don’t stop very quickly.

Trying to Play Nice
October 13, 2021 10:13 am

It’s about time the UK abolishes the monarchy and gets rid of that stupid leech.

Disputin
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
October 13, 2021 10:17 am

It’s about time the UK abolishes the monarchy…

And replaces it with what?

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Disputin
October 13, 2021 10:29 am

Here are few ideas for replacement:
1) nothing
2) a marble statue of Diana
3) a virtual Prince, but not one run by advocacy group controllers
4) a crop circle
5) a fictional Bond character

Reply to  ResourceGuy
October 13, 2021 12:53 pm

6) Homer Simpson

Editor
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
October 14, 2021 12:49 am

Well Duh, or is it Do!

Beagle
Reply to  ResourceGuy
October 13, 2021 2:28 pm

I like the idea Dennis Skinner had of nominating a pensioner each year to be monarch and they could have all the privilege and people bowing and scraping and have a bit of fun.

Bill Powers
Reply to  Beagle
October 14, 2021 10:07 am

A National Lottery – Brilliant!

fretslider
Reply to  Disputin
October 13, 2021 10:31 am

A real democracy

n.n
Reply to  fretslider
October 13, 2021 1:01 pm

A democratic/dictatorial duality.

Al Kour
Reply to  fretslider
October 14, 2021 9:46 am

Democracy is shit. The most immoral political system possible.

Bill Powers
Reply to  Al Kour
October 14, 2021 10:11 am

Individual liberty is immoral? So therefore Central Authoritarianism, where you are dictated to by any number of faceless bureaucrats is…What? LIberating? Virtuous? Moral? Al remove thy head from thy queens arse.

TonyG
Reply to  Bill Powers
October 14, 2021 11:18 am

Women in lakes handing out swords seems like a good system.

bonbon
Reply to  Disputin
October 13, 2021 11:18 am

Instead the USA is being turned into a Parliamentary system. Next step a Dominion like Canada, which Edgar presciently called Kanadaw in his ¨MELLONTA TAUTA¨ (future things).
https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/POE/mellonta.html

Curiously, Britain double crossed France with the the AUKUS sub deal on the day the French Embassy had organized a big gala to celebrate the battle of Capes where France turned the tide of the War of Independence. That party was forthwith cancelled.

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fretslider
Reply to  bonbon
October 13, 2021 11:24 am

Australia double-crossed France

The British build their own subs

Richard Page
Reply to  fretslider
October 13, 2021 12:08 pm

France shot themselves in the foot by f#€@ing up the original submarine deal with delays and problems. No wonder the Australians got fed up and looked elsewhere.

bonbon
Reply to  Richard Page
October 13, 2021 3:07 pm

Delay was due to retrofitting nukes with diesels, believe it or not.
Knowing this shows the urgency D.C has to go after China. Even Nuland is making peace with Russia.

So here we go…

Peter Barrett
Reply to  bonbon
October 14, 2021 11:30 am

Nuland is making peace with Russia.”
I assume that is a joke.
Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.
Either Washington sent her in ignorance of the mutual loathing, or she was sent to deliberately end the remaining vestige of rapport between the USA and Russia.
It will not end well.

LdB
Reply to  Richard Page
October 14, 2021 2:55 am

I still say Australia misplayed it the French sub was diesel the AUKUS nuclear so we should have argued that as a comittment for COP26 we are going sub net zero. There is no good reason not save the planet .. right?

bonbon
Reply to  bonbon
October 13, 2021 1:23 pm

Incredible, France still has that blind-spot after nearly being exterminated due to the Entente Cordiale back then. Macron’s minister said Britain played a secondary role, yeah, just like then… I am reminded of Laval and Petain…

Britain called the shots. Britain has US nuclear engines, and weapons, run by US corporations on British soil. Expect US corporations to invade Australia, not simply Marines.

Entente Pacifique, anyone?

alastair gray
Reply to  Disputin
October 13, 2021 11:28 am

A great spaghetti eating monster
A Tree to hug us back
Chairman Xi
an oracle that spouts nonsense
Some nice alkien like a grown up ET

n.n
Reply to  Disputin
October 13, 2021 1:02 pm

An elected, heritable elite, with different colors and labels.

Peter Barrett
Reply to  Eric Worrall
October 14, 2021 11:39 am

I agree basically with your position, I (reluctantly) see the monarchy as a necessity for this country to function constitutionally as a parliamentary democracy. The alternative, a presidential state (President Blair anyone?) is less palatable. I have to say the present incumbent continues to do a fine job, but signs are that William has also swallowed the green pill.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Disputin
October 14, 2021 2:49 am

King Lear.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
October 13, 2021 10:46 am

Just because someone has ‘royal blood,’ doesn’t mean that they have enough common sense to come in out of the acid rain. Perhaps, just the opposite with inbreeding!

Ron Long
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
October 13, 2021 11:30 am

Without knowing or speculating about the origin, Prince Charles has demonstrated mediocracy, like being denied entrance into the Wharton School of Business, where Donald Trump learned enough to write “The Art of the Deal”, one of the best-selling business books of all time.

Alastair McIntosh
Reply to  Ron Long
October 13, 2021 12:29 pm

“The Art of the Deal” was written entirely by Tony Schwartz. Trump paid him $250,000 in advance plus half of the royalties.

Reply to  Alastair McIntosh
October 13, 2021 12:55 pm

If you think Obama or Hillary Clinton write their own books, then I have a nice bridge to sell you, cheap.

Ron Long
Reply to  Alastair McIntosh
October 13, 2021 2:38 pm

Tony Schwartz, credited as a co-writer of the book “The Art of the Deal”, spent, by his own admission, hundreds of hours with Donald Trump, with Trump on the phone and then discussing business strategies with Tony between phone calls and other business meetings. Tony has a BA in “American Studies” from the University of Michigan, whereas Trump has an MBA from the Wharton School of Business, and you think Tony wrote “The Art of the Deal”? Trump denies a lot of Tony’s assertions, but did include Tony as co-author and did split the royalties. Tony was paid as a ghost-writer, but was not really a ghost writer as he is acknowledged as co-author. Trump engineered the “greatest economy the world has ever known” and Tony? Controversary dogs this guy. Believe what you will.

Derg
Reply to  Alastair McIntosh
October 13, 2021 5:57 pm

Let’s go Brandon indeed

Don
Reply to  Alastair McIntosh
October 14, 2021 4:40 am

60-70% of autobiography’s and other books are ghost written . High level celebrities simply don’t have time to write books to the quality required .

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
October 13, 2021 12:52 pm

Inbreeding works great as long as you call it line-breeding and cull hard. We don’t cull humans except by accident or in wars when the best and brightest are often the ones that are culled….

n.n
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
October 13, 2021 1:06 pm

We abort by force, yes, but more often by Choice for light and social causes.

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bonbon
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
October 13, 2021 3:10 pm

The Great Reset is the Great Culling, a long standing Royal tradition.
Sounds crazy?

Dave Fair
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
October 13, 2021 10:49 am

If not the monarchy, why else would tourists visit the UK? The weather and its beaches?

fretslider
Reply to  Dave Fair
October 13, 2021 11:15 am

Versailles gets more visitors

Not a Royal anywhere

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Scissor
Reply to  fretslider
October 13, 2021 12:04 pm

Several French monarchs are buried in Saint Denis, at least a couple with head separated from body.

Richard Page
Reply to  fretslider
October 13, 2021 12:11 pm

Well, y’know, apart from the generations of French royalty that built it, lived in it and maintained it over centuries. Wonder how many of those tourists would pay to look at an empty field?

bonbon
Reply to  Dave Fair
October 13, 2021 3:17 pm

Have a look around!

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J Mac
October 13, 2021 10:14 am

So nice to hear from the vacuous old sod again, innit?

October 13, 2021 10:15 am

Long live the Queen.

ResourceGuy
October 13, 2021 10:23 am

The Prince and the Energy Paupers

George Lawson
Reply to  ResourceGuy
October 13, 2021 10:32 am

I wonder when it will dawn on Prince Charles that not one of his ” only five years left” warnings for the future of the planet has ever come to fruition! And will he ever have the courage to say “I was wrong”

ResourceGuy
Reply to  ResourceGuy
October 13, 2021 1:34 pm
ResourceGuy
October 13, 2021 10:30 am

Keep your ruddy Prince off my wallet.

fretslider
October 13, 2021 10:46 am

Charles says he understands X-R and IB and he sympathises with them

“ Insulate Britain is in bed with the establishment
It’s no surprise that one of its activists is married to a TfL boss.”

https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/10/13/insulate-britain-is-in-bed-with-the-establishment/

Nice middle class people

Dave Fair
Reply to  fretslider
October 13, 2021 10:56 am

When I get rich, I won’t give a shit about the opinions of people like me. Of course, since I have a scientific background and a history of achievement, I’ll never get rich.

Mr.
Reply to  Dave Fair
October 13, 2021 11:41 am

Yes I’ve been saving up all my life to become well off enough to be a socialist.
Don’t think I’ll make it now though 🙁

Oldseadog
Reply to  Mr.
October 13, 2021 12:38 pm

I always wanted to become a BOBO, Burnt Out But Opulent.
The burn-out happened but I’m still waiting for the cheque from BigOil. I guess that ain’t going to arrive though.

n.n
Reply to  Oldseadog
October 13, 2021 1:14 pm

Green Blight seems to present the better return on social investment.

starzmom
Reply to  Oldseadog
October 13, 2021 1:23 pm

You need to talk to Bob.

n.n
Reply to  Dave Fair
October 13, 2021 1:12 pm

You have to be smart, perhaps intelligent, productive (e.g. redistributive), and wicked by charisma, force, or Choice so that others will follow, take a knee, or fertilize the ground.

Editor
Reply to  fretslider
October 14, 2021 1:02 am

That’s why the Bobbies protect them from the hot-polloi. The police always protect the elite from the peasants.

bonbon
October 13, 2021 11:09 am

Anyone remember Australian Prime Minister Gough Whitlam, simply dismissed by the Queen, using a Royal prerogative that Charles would inherit?
In other words Morrison and Australia is on notice! He has been served a writ!

The proposed Royal Terra Carta is on a grand scale – the Sun never sets! Magna Carta on steroids!

Meanwhile back at the Ranch – AOC, Biden, et al merrily trot along…

Mr.
Reply to  bonbon
October 13, 2021 11:43 am

Whitlam was dismissed not by the Queen, but by the Governor General that Whitlam himself appointed.

The Queen prudently took the position of –
“I don’t have a dog in this fight”

bonbon
Reply to  Mr.
October 13, 2021 1:28 pm

Sure. Kerr was a good foil. That very prerogative still stands. Morrison for sure knows this. Whether he will buckle is a question for tea and crumpets at Buckingham…

OK S.
October 13, 2021 11:17 am

Where was the little Prince in 1989?

No provenance for image. From Ace:
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/395978.php

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bonbon
Reply to  OK S.
October 13, 2021 1:29 pm

Training up under Maurice Strong for the 1992 Rio Summit, that he addressed.

Bryan A
Reply to  OK S.
October 13, 2021 7:55 pm

Too late

John
Reply to  OK S.
October 13, 2021 10:17 pm

makes it easy for illiterate journalists
just copy and paste but change the year to 2050

CD in Wisconsin
October 13, 2021 11:17 am

When the BBC interviewer told the Prince of Wales that Morrison had not officially confirmed his attendance, Australia’s future monarch said he was aware he would be accused of meddling, but action was needed immediately”.

************

Chuckie boy, I suggest that there are three ways that you and all of your climate believers can leave this world:

1) Outlaw all fossil fuels and watch the economies of the world around you collapse. Then we will all be dead from starvation and the winter cold within a year–maybe 18 months on the outside.

2) You can give up on the belief that the worlds politicians will fix the climate problem. Then, you can all sit and wait to die from an overheating planet or one of those climate extreme events that the climate scare media loves to frighten us with.

3) Commit suicide in the belief that there is no hope for the planet.

As for me, I am going to go on living life knowing there is nothing really out of the ordinary going on with the climate. The more gloom-and-doom prognostications you put out Chuckie, the more you need to be fitted for a clown suit. Thank God out Founding Fathers here in the U.S. decided not to have a royal family.

I noticed on YouTube that those Insulate Britain protesters were at it again today with their blocking of roadways and interrupting people’s lives. If your govt in Britain was serious about doing anything about them, they would all be in prison by now.

fretslider
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
October 13, 2021 11:27 am

meddling

That’s why he’s known as the black spider

Mr.
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
October 13, 2021 11:48 am

To be fair, the Brit government is doing about as much about sideling the Insulate Britain & Extinction Revolution disrupters as the US governments did about the Black Lives Matter and the Antifa rioters / vandals / looters.

Which is bugger all.

Peter
Reply to  Mr.
October 13, 2021 12:16 pm

At least the U.S. still has regular elections which decide the top, although not always with the best results. But major mistakes are generally corrected.

bonbon
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
October 13, 2021 1:31 pm

4) use the Royal Pregorative to dismiss any Commonwealth elected government that get’s up his Royal nose.

Chaswarnertoo
October 13, 2021 11:24 am

He is a proper Charley. Straight to Wills and Kate, IMHO.

Rusty
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 13, 2021 11:32 am

Wills is no better when it comes to this green nonsense,

Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 13, 2021 11:41 am

Wills is just as bad – he has been indoctrinated by papa Chuckles.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 13, 2021 11:41 am

Unfortunately Wills has been infected by similar nonsense, but at least he is more likely to admit his foolishness before inheriting. Having a non-alarmist wife will be good for him, unlike Boris!

alastair gray
October 13, 2021 11:24 am

Stick to your guns Scotty. ignore this overprivileged imbecile and se if you can depose him from the republic of Oz.

Pat Frank
October 13, 2021 11:39 am

Scott Morrison is too busy turning Australia into a police state to attend some political festival about climate.

The whole point about the climate change brouha was to impose a collectivist tyranny in any case. That tyranny is now emergent everywhere, sailing in on the manufactured crisis of Covid . COP26 is redundant. Scott Morrison knows that.

Prince Charles of the well-modulated voice is too stupid to know anything except his royal druthers.

Scissor
Reply to  Pat Frank
October 13, 2021 12:14 pm

The Bill of Rights should be universal.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Scissor
October 13, 2021 1:27 pm

It is univeral by default (applies for all humans), but is generally ignored and is explicitly hated and despised by the collective set.

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Izaak Walton
Reply to  Pat Frank
October 13, 2021 2:03 pm

The Bill of Rights is hardly universal. Bush showed quite clearly that it was legal to torture non US citizens and lock them away without trial for years. A precedent that every US president since has happily followed.

DonM
Reply to  Izaak Walton
October 13, 2021 2:58 pm

Bush didn’t set the precedent.

You idiots had the privilege of blaming Bush for stuff for eight years after he was gone, so as to rationalize all the Obama stupidity.

Get over it ….

Izaak Walton
Reply to  DonM
October 13, 2021 3:02 pm

Would you prefer the obvious irony of Jefferson proclaiming that all men are created equal while owning and raping slaves?

ATheoK
Reply to  Izaak Walton
October 13, 2021 5:50 pm

A practice brought to America by the British, French and Spanish.

America moved towards outlawing slavery before Great Britain.

Jefferson did not abuse slaves and freed the slaves on his holdings.

Many centuries of British nobles impregnating their serfs, servants and dizzy wails about Thomas Jefferson?

How hypocritical, and unsurprising.

ATheoK
Reply to  Izaak Walton
October 13, 2021 5:30 pm

Torture isn’t covered in the Bill of Rights.

Torture is under the Geneva Convention.
Have Iraq, Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan signed the Geneva Convention?

And obey it religiously?

Izaak Walton
Reply to  ATheoK
October 13, 2021 5:43 pm

What do you think the phrase “cruel and unusual punishment” refers too if not torture? Or do you think the US government should be allowed to torture US citizens (something not covered by the Geneva convention)?

Furthermore since when did the fact that other people fail to protect human rights mean that the US or anyone get to violate them? Surely the point of being the beacon on the hill is to set an example for the rest of the world.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Izaak Walton
October 13, 2021 9:11 pm

Who’s done better, Izaak?

Certainly none of the collectivist states you favor.

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Pat Frank
Reply to  ATheoK
October 13, 2021 9:10 pm

Torture is covered in amendments IV, V, and VIII, Theo.

They enumerate people’s security in their person, secure in their life and liberty, nor be subject to cruel or unusual punishments.

whiten
Reply to  Pat Frank
October 14, 2021 4:14 am

Pat,

The lockdowns, mandated social distancing and mandated masks plus other mandates, in many States, not all, ended up to be properly cruel and unusual punishments.

cheers

Pat Frank
Reply to  whiten
October 14, 2021 2:04 pm

Agreed, whiten. And I suspect they were all illegal, especially given the fact that Covid-19 is only moderately dangerous and there were good drug treatments available, here and here.

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whiten
Reply to  Pat Frank
October 14, 2021 11:24 pm

All that persisted after and against the White House and President Trump order for opening up,
were not only illegal but also anti constitutional.
(regardless of the actual or the supposed degree of danger)

cheers

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Derg
Reply to  Izaak Walton
October 13, 2021 6:02 pm

No kidding, Obama won a peace prize for bombing brown people. Meanwhile Benghazi was started by an internet video 😉

Pat Frank
Reply to  Izaak Walton
October 13, 2021 9:05 pm

You clearly do not understand the concept of rights, Izaak. No surprise there.

Here’s an insight: rights are inherent. They can be trampled upon, but never abrogated.

bonbon
Reply to  Pat Frank
October 13, 2021 1:33 pm

High time to check the power chain for Oz. Naivete can be fatal!

Coeur de Lion
October 13, 2021 11:52 am

How have all these people got so brainwashed? It’s very perplexing.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
October 13, 2021 12:18 pm

Let’s look at the motivators involved here.
1) Prince Charles gets to deflect those with persuasive power who would cut his operating budget.
2) The Pope gets to deflect bad news from sex scandals with some other topic. (Blessing the EVs was not enough effort.)
3) The Queen gets to preside over something or other and be thankful the conference spending did not go to Paris again.
4) Boris gets to stay in office for another six months before the lights go out.
5) The Guardian gets it payoff as unofficial trumpeters on the Long Climate Crusades March

bonbon
Reply to  ResourceGuy
October 13, 2021 1:35 pm

6) Build Back better for Fewer, like 1 billion, otherwise called in polite company eugenics, an old Royal pastime.

Scissor
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
October 13, 2021 12:20 pm

Brainwashing is effective but not safe.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Scissor
October 13, 2021 1:13 pm

Scissor,
It seems to cause a great deal of shrinkage as well! Perhaps this is the cause of liberal heads exploding; the space created becomes full of volatile gases that ignite when overly heated!

bonbon
Reply to  Scissor
October 13, 2021 1:36 pm

So it is Greenwashing. Must be bio, right?

MarkW
October 13, 2021 11:54 am

Long live the Queen. Please!!!!

bonbon
Reply to  MarkW
October 13, 2021 1:38 pm

Parental example richly demonstrated with the dismissal of Gough Whitlam. Surely the kid can do better?

Quilter 52
Reply to  bonbon
October 13, 2021 4:23 pm

Queen did not dismiss that useless and pompous fool Gough. She rightly said that was an Australian issue. It was our everyday acting head of state, Gough’s own appointee as Governor-General who did that. An election was called immediately and the Australian people made it pretty clear with the largest majority ever for Gough’s opposion the Liberal Party that they rather though that Sir John Kerr got it right. .

Oldseadog
October 13, 2021 12:47 pm

I have to say that as a retired merchant seaman I am embarrased by some of the things my erstwhile colleague is now saying.
(Prince Charles, the Duke of Rothsay, was a career Royal Navy Officer who for two years commanded an RN vessel and to command a vessel at sea is no small thing no matter who you are. It is a pity that he has been lead astray.)

bonbon
Reply to  Oldseadog
October 13, 2021 1:37 pm

Led astray by his mum and dad?

Stephen Skinner
October 13, 2021 12:56 pm

Prince of Wales warns of ‘catastrophic’ impact to planet if more ambitious action not taken in Glasgow”
And how does he know this?

bonbon
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
October 13, 2021 1:40 pm

Prince Phillip, Royal Consort, dad, told him. And he had it from Malthus, Sarpi, Zorzi (King Henry VIII’s sex therapist). Tradition, you see, is admirable.

Tom Abbott
October 13, 2021 1:11 pm

Last chance! Last chance! Wolf! Wolf!

Bruce Cobb
October 13, 2021 1:15 pm

Glasgow’s gonna be a gunfight at the O.K. Corral. There will be rootin’ and tootin’ climatepalooza shootin’. Yee-Ha!

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
October 13, 2021 1:38 pm
Tombstone Gabby
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
October 13, 2021 5:31 pm

G’Day Bruce,

“Glasgow’s gonna be a gunfight at the O.K. Corral.”

No such luck, it’s going to keep on dragging out.

The Corral? Thirty shots in thirty seconds. Three dead, three wounded, one untouched.

(Currently: three reenactments daily. I’m close enough to hear them.)

Abolition Man
Reply to  Tombstone Gabby
October 14, 2021 4:00 am

If only SASS and reenatctors were more ubiquitous; society is so much more polite where open-carry policy reigns!
Good gun control is hitting the target from horseback!

ResourceGuy
October 13, 2021 1:31 pm
Robber
October 13, 2021 1:36 pm

When Prince Charles becomes King (of Australia) I will campaign for a Republic.

Andy Pattullo
October 13, 2021 1:38 pm

Prince Charles is rapidly approaching his last chance to have any relevance to anyone. Pity the poor bugger – never had a real job, never did anything he can be proud of.

Oldseadog
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
October 14, 2021 2:08 am

Andy,
At one time he did have a real job, see my post at 12:47 above.

Andy Pattullo
Reply to  Oldseadog
October 15, 2021 7:46 am

Yes, fair enough. How did he lose his purpose then? And how have so many individuals of prominence become spokespeople for idiocy.

Robert of Texas
October 13, 2021 2:56 pm

It’s all OK, Prince Charlies last chance to be taken seriously took place years ago.

Michael S. Kelly
October 13, 2021 3:19 pm

Hilarious!

richard
October 13, 2021 3:58 pm
Quilter 52
October 13, 2021 4:10 pm

Stop it Charlie boy or you will success in making this monarchist run for the hills. You may be the King who finishes off the Commonwealth. I remain a monarchist because it is one less political snout in the trough, the Brits mainly foot the bill and HM the Queen is about the only world leader with any integrity left. She has had a few challenges lately from the Andrew fool and that pair of selfish morons in California and now she faces a future monarch forgetting that he will reign , not rule, and with the intellect largely of a peanut. Stop it Charlie, you will go blind!

DMacKenzie
October 13, 2021 4:59 pm

2 degrees COLDER would be reason for concern…but what could we tax to fix it?

observa
October 13, 2021 5:00 pm

Speaking of fine wine and cheese fuels you may not be up with ‘lignocellulosic biomass’-
Rio Tinto seeks to produce low-carbon steel with biomass in pilot trial (msn.com)
It consists of yada yada and ‘purpose-grown crops’ and we all know what that means for those at the bottom of the global food chain.

John
October 13, 2021 5:28 pm

Prince Charles go and talk to your plants
They will say hey its great we have more CO2
Keep doing the same we love it

mike
Reply to  John
October 13, 2021 9:22 pm

I understand from trustworthy sources that he had a passionate affair with a turnip but he was in turn cuckolded by the turnip when a more intelligent potato appeared in the garden, the garden that is full of mystical rainbows and unicorns but nothing edible.

Gordon A. Dressler
October 13, 2021 6:18 pm

“I am firmly of the view that the next 18 months will decide our ability to keep climate change to survivable levels and to restore nature to the equilibrium we need for our survival”
Prince Charles’ speech at a Reception for Commonwealth Foreign Ministers, July 11, 2019

Note: July 11, 2019 + 18 months = mid-January 2021, so we passed that point-of-no-return about 9 months ago.

The Prince of Wales . . . like a child chasing that always-just-out-of-reach “last chance”, like the proverbial pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

Joao Martins
October 14, 2021 1:45 am

The very existence of Prince Charles is a strong argument for those who believe that republican political systems are way better than monarchies…

Disputin
Reply to  Joao Martins
October 14, 2021 5:04 am

…strong argument for those who believe that republican political systems are way better than monarchies

Belief is all very well, but there seems to be little to support it. I give as a few supporting examples:

Venuzuela
South Africa
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Nigeria
Libya
Burma (or whatever it’s called this week)
USA
etc
etc…

Not exactly an inspiring list, is it?

Joao Martins
Reply to  Disputin
October 14, 2021 6:36 am

I guess you would be very happy to be a Saudi Arabian subject…

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joao Martins
October 14, 2021 5:08 am

I thought the Queen was going to bypass Prince Charles and make William the King. It seems like I read something along those lines in the past.

Is that a viable option for the Queen?

TonyG
October 14, 2021 8:15 am

Does anyone have/keep a count of how many “last chances” we’ve had in the last 20 years?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  TonyG
October 14, 2021 6:16 pm

There’s a looong list somewhere.

Gordon Pratt
October 14, 2021 8:21 am

Parliament has an undisputed right to determine the successor to HM Queen Elizabeth. The Australian Parliament is supreme in Australia. Aussie legislators may declare that for the purposes of succession to the Queen female descendants rank equally with men. They may also enact that for the purposes of succession Charles Prince of Wales is deemed never to have been born. Princess Anne, the Princess Royale, would become Queen of Australia on her mother’s death.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Gordon Pratt
October 14, 2021 6:18 pm

That sounds awfully complicated.

Sara
October 14, 2021 9:57 am

As I suspected: Prinny really is a dork with no sense of reality.

Gee, and to think I told my kitty that she could sniff the plants and talk to them, but not eat them because they’d give her a stomach ache…..

Ulric Lyons
October 14, 2021 1:54 pm

Personal attacks in science debate are invariably self projections, Charles is vociferous and should know better.

Geoffrey Williams
October 14, 2021 2:07 pm

In the UK the Queen, god bless her, has to be on her last legs.
And very soon perhaps Charles will be king .. Lord help us then.

Diogenese
October 15, 2021 8:03 am

I do hope the Queen outlives her moron son .

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