Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Nobody in the Gen Z climate cadre the Guardian interviewed wants to get their hands dirty – the careers listed are mostly about convincing other people do the work.
‘No point in anything else’: Gen Z members flock to climate careers
Colleges offer support as young people aim to devote their lives to battling the crisis
Angela Lashbrook
Mon 6 Sep 2021 20.00 AEST
California is facing a drought so devastating, some publications call it “biblical”. Colorado now has “fire years” instead of “fire seasons”. Miami, which sees more dramatic hurricanes each year, is contemplating building a huge seawall in one of the city’s most scenic tourist districts to protect it from storm surges.“Once you learn how damaged the world’s ecosystems are, it’s not really something you can unsee,” says Rachel Larrivee, 23, a sustainability consultant based in Boston. “To me, there’s no point in pursuing a career – or life for that matter – in any other area.”
Larrivee is one of countless members of Gen Z, a generation that roughly encompasses young people under 25, who are responding to the planet’s rapidly changing climate by committing their lives to finding a solution. Survey after survey shows young people are not just incorporating new climate-conscious behaviors into their day-to-day lives – they’re in it for the long haul. College administrators say surging numbers of students are pursuing environmental-related degrees and careers that were once considered irresponsible, romantic flights of fancy compared to more “stable” paths like business, medicine, or law.Why won’t US TV news say ‘climate change’?Mark HertsgaardRead more
“I cannot imagine a career that isn’t connected to even just being a small part of a solution,” says Mimi Ausland, 25, the founder of Free the Ocean, a company that aims to leverage small actions to remove plastic from the ocean.
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“My goal is to use the lens of literature and philosophy to study and hopefully help repair humans’ relationship to our environments,” they say.
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A 2020 USC survey found that 64% of undergraduate students are “very interested” in on-campus sustainability, while 27% are “interested”. They’re also practicing what they preach: 33% of survey respondents say they participate in sustainability activities “daily” and 27% report weekly sustainability practices.
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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/06/gen-z-climate-change-careers-jobs
I’m pretty sure “the lens of literature and philosophy” won’t help solve the currently insurmountable engineering impediments to creating a 100% renewable energy powered future. But it sure sounds like a path to a life of well funded government or lobbyist expenses paid conferences, international travel, a comfortable office, a sexy sounding job title, and no heavy lifting.
Synchronised with:
https://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/national/19565360.cop26-arts-projects-connect-young-people-climate-change-announced/
Thanks for link which goes on and on about the art projects funded by the UK government. But this shows why nothing of substance will be done at COP26 – because nothing of substance is planned.
Well, let’s face it, the entire got rodeo is without substance. What else would you expect?
Keep your crap off of here!
“the art projects funded by the UK government.”
“the art projects funded by the UK taxpayers.” There fixed it for you!!! 😉
Guvments have NO money!!! It’s been a well worn process here in the UK whereby when reluctant to spend money, the guvment says “it isn’t our money it is taxpayers money!”. OTOH, when they want to spend money for whatever reason, eg an election is looming, the guvment says “we are spending XYZ millions of pounds on these urgent & essential projects & schemes!!!”.
Old engineer can you explain this article to all of us:
https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2021/08/30/diversity-equity-and-inclusion-should-be-required-engineering-schools-curricula
The article needs no explanation. It simply proves that the University of Michigan is no longer a valid place to obtain an engineering degree.
Go woke , go broke. Problem is they’re worth billions its gonna take some time.
The Guardian’s climate catastrophist narrative has turned the young generation into a dystopia-crazed zombie apocalypse
https://youtu.be/ll4t_Oajwd8
Don’t dismiss these attractive sinecures offhand.
That’s right, the youff of today have no respect, but can you blame them?
If there really was a climate crisis, people like them, and you, wouldn’t be let anywhere near the solution. It would be real scientists and engineers, not blowhards.
It’s funny how the Chinese are trying to poach the West’s scientific advances from our universities but not our literature and philosophy.
They sure missed a trick there.
Perhaps the Chinese are smarter than you think.
No one is entitled to “respect”. It is earned through hard work, dedication and tangible results. I can absolutely blame them. They’re not worth a puddle of warm piss. They’ve chosen the wrong role models and the wrong politics.
From what I have read, the graduates of many liberal arts colleges, arrive at their first job expecting to be put in charge and to have huge salaries out of the gate.
The women especially end up bad. 30, barren, and on pills.
And when the nesting urge sets in anger and bitterness soon follows.
When prizes for participation are as cherished as ‘first place’; individual focus, perseverance and accomplishment is replaced with ‘group’ activities and ‘sharing’, it’s clear that public schools are set up as best possible environments for indoctrination.
Why would we care … we own our houses and life is so unfair 🙂
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The fact that most hard working refugee arrivals will own a house before them should really traumatize them in future years because they didn’t choose a career in climate science.
Aren’t you the one who said man didn’t land on the moon?
Nutz indeed.
Can anyone enlighten me, but I seem to recall that some early cinematic film taken on the Moon landing was in fact shot in a studio as part of the training schedule, because one of the very expensive cameras taken to the moon was accidentally pointed directly at the Sun, burning out the film/lens or something like that!!!
If you were faking a moon landing in the studio, you’d make sure you had a good photo of the 1st man on the moon, wouldn’t you?
Check out the ‘best’ photo of Neil – negative no. as11_40_5886. It shows Neil with his back to the camera, unloading the ALSEP, on the shadowed side of the LM.
Or is the lack of a decent photo part of an infinitely nested double/triple/quadruple bluff? Woo-ooh!
(hint – no, it isn’t)
SimonJ.
You seem to feel that photos could not be taken in the shadow on the moon.
Not true, since light reflects off the lunar surface in all directions. There is light, even in the shadows. You just have to adjust the exposure time.
Perhaps even toward the surface. /sarc
http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie/
Professional photographer explains how all those “explanations” are not valid, you need an atmosphere for them to be.
Plus no stars in background.
I’ve never heard of any such film. To get used to lunar like landscapes, they were taken to some place out in the desert.
To get used to lunar gravities, they had rigs that they were tied to that supported most of the astronauts weight.
There was a camera that was burned out when it was accidentally pointed at the sun, but that was Apollo 12 or 14. Regardless, each astronaut had his own camera.
They couldn’t focus the cameras, the gloves would not allow.
Yet, these astronauts had ‘perfect’ photography skills.
Hmmm….
Look up (or read the link I gave) the specific cameras used. They could not have gotten the images with gloves on. The would also be incapable of looking at any view finder.
Most of the TV cameras used on moon missions were vidicon tube cameras which don’t take well to direct sunlight.
I seem to recall at least one of the later lunar landings damaged the ‘spinning color wheel’ camera when they accidentally pointed it at the sun.
Still photos were taken with large film format Hasselblad.
We didn’t. Probes sure, man, no.
http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie/
Every supposed “debunked!” claim is refuted right there.
But, I know you’d never read it and I shouldn’t waste my time.
Also, btw, when did they have a chance to shave during the trip?
They have no standards just like you.Lazy bunch of useless narcists.
I’ve seen a lot of respect shown by young people lately. The debacle in Afghanistan seems to have hit a nerve in young people. We have college fraternities creating memorials to the 13 American troops k!lled in Afghanistan, among other things. I saw two children stop their play and stand at attention as a funeral procession for a soldier passed by. They did it spontaneously, without anyone else around to prompt them.
Don’t give up on our youth.
A lot of them are quite intelligent. Unfortunatly, a lot of them are being delberately brainwashed into believing scary things that are not real. And it’s not because they are young, although that exaserbates the situation for them because of lack of experience, but there are numerous adults who are equally susceptible to the lies and propaganda they are fed every day by the Political Left.
Being young today is much different from being young a few decades ago. It’s a whole different false reality situation, with the most powerful organs of society trumpeting the scare stories of Human-caused Climate Change.
What’s a kid to think after all that?
All kids should become regular readers of WUWT. That way they can get the proper perspective on life and what is going on in the real world. That’s my advice.
maybe not
I blame the parents who didnt tan their bums enough or say NO! often enough.
even with useless woke airheads as parents n teachers they could actually develop life skills if they wanted
they just dont want to
The youths of every generation had no respect.
They’re young, wisdom usually comes with age. Unless you are a leftist, then wisdom never comes.
When a college student cries hysterically because someone else wears a Sombrero to a Halloween party, yes, I can blame them. I can blame the parents, the grandparents, the school, the K-12 education system, the polity, everything.
Why weren’t these kids being taught to read WUWT in school, for godssake?
Agenda 21, dumbing down the education system because higher educated people have a higher Carbon Footprint (whatever that is) than lower educated people!!! As said before, when they talk smelly brown stuff about eradicating all carbon from the Earth, they don’t realise, (because of the dumbing down of their educashun), that they are actually talking about destroying ALL life on planet Earth!!!
I add: they don’t suspect, although very well educated and with doctoral diplomas, that their own body, their flesh and blood, is roughly 20 % carbon…
Hatter,
You must really look at the Guardian readership numbers. The average age of a guardian reader is 42 and it sells about 100 000 copies a day in a country of 60 million. So I don’t think their narrative is in a position to influence anything.
Griff used to read it every day.
But now he gets all his news from the GreenLeftWeekly.
Really? I’d assumed he read the inappropriately named ‘Daily Worker’ rag? Not for news, obviously, just for the latest propaganda.
Mr.,
The griffter doesn’t have to read anymore; he just plugs directly into the Matrix to receive his daily dose of the official, corporate approved propaganda! Those holes in his head really came in handy!
All information gained by online polling.
Not worth the cold puddle of urine mentioned above.
The BBC is
How many of the Guardian readers are in jobs where the actually get their hands dirty?
At a guess one would imagine the average Guardian reader as being a nice clean desk job in administration, teaching, telling someone else what to do, many of them jobs with a nice pension at the end of it.
I usually cite as an example the workers who go down to clear the ‘fat-bergs’ from the sewers who get paid less than the person who tells them to get down there and do it.
The readership is even less if one subtracts the thousands of copies purchased every day by the BBC for its employees. The Daily Record of Scotland has more real readers.
Unfortunately, reading the Guardian is virtually mandatory as a job requirement at the BBC. I have seen numerous articles in the Guardian which are picked up by the BBC and given massive publicity. For example, the phrase “global heating” instead of global warming first appeared in the Guardian and then the BBC started using it. Most people regard the Guardian as a joke but this joke is given massive credence by the science denying halfwits in the UK’s broadcast media.
The Pied Piper strikes again! This time, it is our youth’s youth that is being seduced,and they will come back wizened rather than wiser.
I’m pretty sure “the lens of literature and philosophy” won’t help solve the currently insurmountable engineering impediments to creating a 100% renewable energy powered future.
Pah! Who studies engineering, when they can cavort with the flocks of mountable literature and philosophy students?
People wanting to be clergy in the Church of Climastrology? Selling indulgences, AKA carbon credits?
AKA young people are gullible, ill informed and, thus, green.
Just as I was when a young person!!!
And me! (to my shame)
Being gullible when young is nothing to be ashamed of.
Not growing out of it as you age on the other hand …
Yes, they are, and the young people are being bombarded with leftwing propaganda constantly. It’s a miracle any of them can think straight. Fortunately, some of them do think straight, so all is not lost yet.
Yup – obviously they think it beats actually working for a living.
Well, they could go on the dole and do nothing for a government handout or spend some time spreading government propaganda for their government handout.
Given the current state of public
educationindoctrination, the kids don’t have a lot of employment options.At least they get to think they are doing something to justify their parasitic existence, so there’s that.
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However, I’m resentful of government throwing money down every possible self-serving, vote-buying rathole. I would be a much happier camper if government just kept bridges up to snuff, potholes filled, and the snow plowed off the streets in Winter.
You have to feel a bit sorry for them, when you contemplate their futures.
As the quietening sun causes reduced temperatures, & the realisation that it wasn’t CO2 at all sets in, there will be little left for these dupes, but to become grey haired old burger flippers, they will have many years to regret not doing something more worth while
Yes.
1st world problem.
Its not happening in China’s gen Z.
I’m sorry I read this article.
Know the feeling. Those poor indoctrinated children, victims of liberalism.
I don’t object wanting to change the World, but it’s when they actually try to do something about it, oh the inexperience of youth knows all the answers!!! NOT!!!
Yeah. It is not inspiring. Actually quite depressing. So sad to waste your life on such worthless endeavors.
…. and you only get one.
There are so many lies and false statements in the quoted article that it reads like a dystopian novel not a news article. Where in Miami are they starting to build a ginormous seawall? Colorado fire YEARS? Biblical drought in California? This is all the stuff of fiction and these numbskulls should not be accepting this without question.
Yeah the Guardian should really be renamed ‘Visions of Dystopia’ – they might sell more that way! These numbskulls have no other referents other than this relentless bombardment of lies and most of them have no idea how to separate real information from fake and seem quite content lapping it up without question.
Rolling Stone recently ran a story about a hospital in Oklahoma, having to deal with so many cases where people had OD’d on a particular horse de-wormer, that they were having to turn away people at the ER.
This story made it all the way around the world (including the BBC) before someone thought to check with the hospital named in the story.
Turns out they hadn’t dealt with even a single case of anyone OD’ing on any form of de-wormer and that nobody had been turned away from the ER, for any reason.
The source of the “story” was a single doctor who hadn’t worked at the particular hospital in months.
Some stories, it appears, are just too good to check.
I heard bits of that story, mostly the part about people ODing on horse wormer, and figured it was bogus. Anyone who has de-wormed livestock knows how messy it can be and the potential for ingesting some of the stuff in the process is ever-present. The allowance for overdose is huge, an entire tube of wormer is for a 1200-lb horse but giving that horse four of those tubes won’t make it sick or kill it. This is primarily because most people are poor at guessing weights so allowances are made.
I also found it hard to believe any hospital would turn away emergency cases.
It is disgraceful the lengths that some people will go to to discredit a Covid treatment that works and is cheap to boot.
Who was it said that a lie makes its way round the world before the truth gets its boots on?
I think GK Chesterton’s Father Brown.
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As we have observed on this site many times, CAGW is a new religion, unfalsifiable and faith-based, and these are the new priests
A religion, a behavioral protocol, modeled on the Pro-Choice religion. Sacrifices will be made.
“Young People Flocking to Climate Change Political Activism Careers”
So they have chosen to become professional useless people? It’s a damned shame that this is even an option.
Yep.
Which one voted for Biden ?
You mean which one knowingly voted for Biden?
Both
…Both..
Most of Biden’s votes were ‘virtual’.
Cheers
Mike
Which one is Simon 🤔
Not the electrician!
Yeah. Some people really are like that. I have a very lovely friend who is convinced that going to University actually makes people much more intelligent – not gives them more insight, education or understanding maybe, but actually increases their intelligence beyond what it would be otherwise. She works filling shelves at a local supermarket because nobody will employ her to do whatever her degree was in (I forget what it was).
It is always a shock the first time one learns that She/He/IT isn’t worth what one thought She/He/IT was worth. Some spend the rest of their shit lives bemoaning the unfairness of it all because She/He/IT is actually a superior human being in all ways.
They can learn to write professional gibberish like this from Yahoo:
https://www.aol.com/medical-journals-warn-climate-change-184550023.html
If that shocking photo of heavy CO2 pollution in the article won’t convince all you deniers I don’t know what will!
Loydo and Griff agree.
Gee. Just where and when was that photo taken?
Bet that traffic conductor didn’t have any choices like “climate change” or “Political” for course and degree choices.
Of course he is in the country that produces the greatest amount of real pollution in the world, and will produce the most until 2100 and beyond.
All thanks to the climate change politicians and glitterati.
Trolls and trollops come from the least employable ranks of climate change and political degreed graduates.
That’s just the CO2 molecules Greta can see.
Hopeless daydreamers. How do they expect to influence countries like China, India and others that are growing their economies and (likely) their fossil fuel usage with it. Talk about dead end jobs.
If Mr. Ketchup John Kerry isn’t getting the climate job done, I seriously doubt that these young daydreamers can do it either.
What “climate job” is that? I’m still waiting to learn what anyone proposes to actually do about “the climate”. It doesn’t even exist. The term is stupidity manifest. This planet has dozens of climates which cannot be averaged. The whole thing is a pointless narrative constructed from layers of logical fallacies held together by platitudes and equivocation.
“What “climate job” is that? I’m still waiting to learn what anyone proposes to actually do about “the climate”.”
The plan is to spend as much money on “the climate” as they can.
Spending money fixes everything. Just ask Joe Biden.
Tom,
You left out the part about the skim!
Spending OPM is great fun, especially when your friends and relatives get most of it; but no self respecting DemoKKKrat would let all that money pass by without taking a cut! Hell, even Dementia Joe gets at least 10% of everything the Biden Crime Family can grift and grab!
The Big Guy.
The Big Bought Guy.
Ignorant, stupid, and indoctrinated= well qualified.
Yeah, but well qualified for what? Another cog in the leftwing machine.
Too bad the Right doesn’t have control of the Media and schools. There would be a lot fewer confused people if that were the case.
“Too bad the Right doesn’t have control of the Media and schools.”
We were warned, as far back as the 60’s, but nobody took action
Action, especially political action, is usually not taken until the situation becomes a crisis.
I think we are about there.
No one ever protests at trade schools. I wonder why.
The students there are too busy learning something useful, as opposed to being told what to think.
What is a “sustainability activity”?
That means driving around telling people to stop driving around.
“What is a “sustainability activity”?”
My bet is you will get a different definition from everyone you ask.
This is just another ill-defined term the Left likes to use. They do this so they can define it any way they want to depending on the circumstances. It’s another method to try to fool people. It’s similar to referring to Global Warming as Climate Change, a more ambiguous, ill-defined term.
Political activism a career based in irritating people.
..”Political activism a career based in irritating people.”
…by irritating people!
Cheers
Mike
AOC wants to hire about 1.5 million political climate activists (Brown Shirts) using about $10 billion of U.S. taxpayer money.
AOC will be able to irritate a lot of people with her 1.5 million Brown Shirts.
This will be part of the upcoming $3.5 TRILLION spending bill the radical Democrats are trying to foist on the American public.
Yes, I imagine 1.5 million Brown Shirt Climate Change Activists could be quite intimidating to their political opposition. I think that’s the idea behind this AOC plan.
Sounds like a modern ‘Red Guard’ in the making.
’Net Zero’ is uncomfortably close to the Cambodian’Year Zero’.
I also note a drift away from anthropogenic climate change as the primary issue towards general undefined sustainability so this is going to continue even if AGW gets discredited.
They don’t see the variety and health of a well managed cityscape or landscape, just the badly managed portions but the way they are going it will all become badly managed.
In reality we just need to make full use of fossil fuels until we reach peak population later this century and then use those fuels to provide the wealth needed to manage a long term decline in global population.
Wealthy nations care for their environment best and expensive ‘green’ energy will dissipate that wealth.
Real pollution from fossil fuels or nuclear can be dealt with more easily and cheaply than the waste and environmental ravages that will result from a premature use of so called Green energy which has the potential to be far worse for the environment.
Fixed it for you. No application of time or “technology” is going to make low density, unreliable, unpredictable, weather dependent and weather vulnerable so-called Green energy “viable.” Ever.
Is this any surprise? In modern Progressivism, it’s always up to someone else to do the real work, and to pay for it. Just like of all the avowed Marxists I knew in school, absolutely none of them envisioned their futures as one of the “workers”.
Just more ignorant and economically useless people who think that they’ll have a slide on ice after the revolution.
A lot of people who ended up in Soviet gulags or in front of firing squads thought they were movers and shakers.
Well they might get down to looking for a sinecure paid for with donations from the wealthy or public money, but first there is the problem of settling their gender dysphoria while navigating the absurd COVID policies. Not much time left to learn even if they have capable teachers.
I have one in middle school and one in grade school. They keep me informed about the craziness of the day.
Hopefully you set them straight each night…
A whole generation of college grads with useless degrees in their teeming multitudes. Hordes of then from all the state universities and more, from the multitudes of state colleges, and worse, from the prestigious private colleges and universities. And they all pile up, year after year after year, until they threaten to overwhelm with their sheer bulk and numbers.
Job Prospects:
All the fat lifetime employment positions in the state bureaucracy are reserved for the children of the parasites already in those positions.
The word these teeming multitudes will get is “Sorry Bub, these jobs are reserved and Not For You.”
Too bad, so sad!
Do you chaps & chappesses from the colonies still have the joke, “What’s the most common thing a graduate asks you? “Do you want fries with that?”. It certainly is beginning to apply over here in the UK!!!
About 20 years ago when the UK Labour Government first began talking about getting 50% of all school leavers into university I had a discussion with my wife’s brother. He thought it was a good idea but I was very sceptical that there would ever be sufficient real graduate level jobs to employ all these new graduates and they were being sold a lie.
I recently read about a glut of PhD graduates in the climate disciplines. They couldn’t find jobs in the real world and the colleges would only pay them slave wages to do basically graduate student-type work.
Another related issue is the inflation of “credential” requirements for entry-level jobs in various fields. For example, its wild that an entry-level business-related job in many organizations requires an MBA. What the hell are they teaching at the undergraduate level?
I’ve been working in a job I’m “unqualified” for, based on the supposed “educational requirements” for decades. And am better at it than most I’ve encountered.
It’s basically become a scam where everyone has to “pay a toll” to become employable.
If I had children I’d advise trade school for them all, and not because of any lack of intellect but because today’s “education” system is so broken and so not priced at a level commensurate of the “value” of the “product” that sending children to “university” today just seems like throwing stacks of cash into a fire.
Plus because after being told what to think for an additional four years plus would probably mean I’d be arguing with my own children for most of the days I have left. Not to mention continuing to support them as if they were still teenagers because they probably emerge with no real prospects for gainful employment.
“the lens of literature and philosophy” won’t help” The first thing I thought of when I saw this reference was the same: what good is that? So much of today’s college degrees are on worthless subjects.
These people will become some of the “keepers of society” in our new utopian government. They’ll be activists paid by the government. They can join all the other ‘enlightened’ graduates of some social discipline at the trough.
Gee, I wonder who goes into the Wicker Man?
Well it certainly won’t be the young Britt Ekland lookalikes.
Coincidence here or what..
It’s circa 02:30 GMT and I’m in between my usual Firste Sleepe and Seconde Sleepe, (PS) sipping OJ, browsing (here obs) while listening twitch.tv
A young Canadian female is streaming some rap/hip-hop talky kinda stuff and the song that’s just played had the lyric:
Song lyric/words: “The question is not whether you have or have not style..
It’s whether you express it”
Is that what’s happened in this survey/report? Is it an expression of Style?
Double Edged One though innit – me, you, mine or your ‘style’ might include how much weight you attach to what the Grauniad says. How many meanings or understandings can the Original Thinker, the Enquiring/Agile Mind or the GSOH see in this story?
By example, when I was younger, boys all wanted to either train-drivers or airline pilots while girls still aimed for ‘caring professions’
For girls really though, The Real Aim at age 17 or 18 was to get into A University and find a ‘Good Boy with Prospects’ when you got there.
The really sensible advice of the/my time was to get into either financial or legal services – then you were ‘minted’
There is thus No Change in children’s aspirations:
Climate Science/repair is just as much (government) Cronyism as were/are the legal & financial service industries – just different colours/shades of grey of one and the same thing = return to the womb-ism.
PS:
Headline:”The myth of the eight-hour sleep”
Cheers Auntie
Because if/when you quit the sugar & the booze,(you will eventually, make it sooner than later though. Please – for everyone’s sake) you will discover that the ‘8-hour sleep’ is in fact 8 hours of chemically-induced unconsciousness.
Hence why it is often soooooo difficult to rouse yourself and especially why caffeine is so important to so many people. Sugar (cooked starch) creates hangovers just like alcohol does
Also and when you venture out and into your day, why you will see as many Zombies as you do.
T-Totals and Lipivores stand out like supernova in an other very bleak landscape / dark sky.
Do not take my, or anybody else’s word for it – go get your hands dirty, do some science and find out yo’self
I think it was 1992 when segmented sleep was a hot topic.
Like a nasty weed, it has come back?
There’s always some bright light whose great brain discovers that nature has been wrong all along and he has a better idea. “Segmented sleep” 🙂
Does anyone know if schools have started offering a Bachelor of Useful Idiots degree program?
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Hmmm… the ones who graduate ‘With Honors’ would kinda worry me a bit.
Only hire the ones who fail!
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No, wait… the ones who fail would be useless idiots. I don’t see much of a career path for them.
Just imagine all the oil engineering libs being thrown into a dead job market.
Wolfcamp continues to obliterate, Nigeria also. OPEC has mere months left before running out of capacity.
How many months have you been making that claim?
It also looks like an over abundance of very emotional young women, intent on giving their all to the cause. If that doesn’t attract a few enterprising young guys, nothing will. Rich pickings and enough virtue to give everyone something to signal about. Can’t imagine any other point to it.
Given that over abundance of very emotional young women is going to be extremely woke, most enterprising young guys will listen for all of about 2 minutes, switch off then go after someone else.
Maybe this is the new unmentioned solution to the “population bomb”. Make young women completely unattractive. I bet Ehrlich never saw that one coming.
Yep – 20 years down the line, they will be the ones sitting alone at their friend’s daughters wedding, alternately drowning their sorrows and crying.
… and very heavy on “drowning their sorrows”.
A phenomenon called ” babe phishing ” is said to be practised by certain young men who say the right things to these female activists in order to get onto intimate terms with them.
Yeah, I’ve heard about this pass time. The technique is as old as time. There’s a scene in the film, ‘Elmer Gantry’, where Gantry (Burt Lancaster) seduces Sister Sarah (Jean Simmons) under the Atlantic City boardwalk. She’s standing in front of him expounding on her religious mission, getting more and more excited, while he repeats over and over, “Yes Sister, yes Sister, yes Sister”. A very erotic moment. Nothing more needs to be shown, the outcome is clear. Religious fervor is indistinguishable from religious fervor.
I don’t think “sustainability activities” means what pollsters think it means…
It means whatever the Left wants it to mean.
Are you suggesting the scientific principle of reproductability here?
“Sustainability” is the lofty government position of telling somebody with experience and expertise how to do the job. Its like developing and implementing Five-Year-Plans on steroids worldwide. The UN is big on the concept. Only the woke West is being seduced by the blatant Marxism. Previously socialist countries and their citizens are running away from it like mad.
Should be: Flocking to Medieval Seminaries for indoctrination training.
First task of these climate youth brigades – get the John Kerry’s and Al Gore’s and other rich folk off their private planes. Then they would be doing something useful.
Would be fun to watch those rich dudes argue back at the youth brigades.
Shades of the Red Guards.
Just be pleased that these know-nothings are going into climate change research. It won’t effect the climate and they’ll never be heard from again. People just aren’t being fooled by the climate hustlers any more, except for the hustlers themselves.
Can we ensure that their fieldwork include unsupervised trips into the Arctic to check (closely) on the Polar Bear population? At feeding time?
My understanding is that in the wild, feeding time for a polar bear, is anytime something yummy looking approaches.
Young people who are interested in Earth Changes of climate and weather conditions should study geology and earth sciences.
Climate hoax and warming creative accounting is nonsense no science at all.
School counselor, advising a lackluster student that prefers partying.
Of course the school counselor will steer the lazy nitwit towards the easy degree!
Never bothering to tell the students that the field is already glutted with lying fatherless children.
Then when the world graduates millions of political action and climate change degreed students in Associate, Bachelor of, Master of, and tens of thousands PHD degrees…
The world will have beaucoup burger flippers, taco chefs, grocery store sample pushers, gas pump monitors, sign whirling nimrods and numbskull trolls and trollops.
Sounds like a win-win to me.
“Why should I keep a dog and then bark myself?”
There’s something wrong in the (western) world when political activism is seen as a (paid) career choice.
Really? ‘scientists’ like Willie Soon have made a career out of political activism for fossil fuel companies and think tanks, haven’t they?
Griff, that’s below even your standards, Just take a look at Dr. Soon’s papers.
No, it’s not below Griff’s standards to use character assassination against skeptics. It’s standard operating procedure for him.
Griff and standards.Never the twain shall meet!
No it isn’t below Griffy’s standards – he doesn’t have any. There is nothing he wouldn’t stoop to in the name of his religion.
Disputin,
The griffter DID look at Dr. Soon’s papers several years ago. He’s mind is still confused from the horrifying experience!
griff, like the rest of our trolls, wouldn’t be caught dead reading something that doesn’t support the agenda.
Griff read it on HuffPo and had it confirmed when CNN reported that HuffPo had reported that David Attenborough had broadcast that the world wildlife or was it the world wildlife fund was endangered because Global Warming and that the mad scientist Willie Soon was responsible because he earned a living and it must have been tied to the fossil fuel industry, at least according to Don Lemo or was it Chris Cuomon. Nonetheless very reliable sources all.
It’s very unusual for you to reply to a comment, Griff mate, which shows you do read them, but you do realise if you make an allegation like that you have to back up your claim with hard facts, don’t you?
Hard facts are not really your forte though, are they?
Griff is all about making false accusations against skeptics. Facts, and backing up claims, are for other people.
I strongly suggest that you go to your nearest library & take out a book on geology, then you’ll begin to learn about climate change, also take out a book on astrophysics & learn about stella dynamics & variable stars!!! The UN set out from the get-go to create fear about globul warming & climate change. They had to call it climate change because somebody pointed out to them that the Earth’s temperature could start to cool, as was the scare story from the late 1960s & 1970s!!! It was virtually carved in stone that our Sun was a stable star, until not so long ago it was declared to be a variable star, remember Griffy-baby, science has a tendency to change every now & then, think of the grief Alfred Wegener got given when postulated Plate Tectonics Theory!!!
There are days when it seems that griff actually believes the lies he preaches.
The one problem with lies like griff uses, is they take just a sentence to spew, but several paragraphs to refute. Like the rest of our trolls, they hope that people grow tired of refuting their lies, and just let them lie there.
Heartland Institute had a small (something like $10K) grant for a program that had nothing to do with climate change, several years prior to Soon joining Heartland.
This is the source of the oft repeated lie that Soon is paid by big oil.
nyolci still claims that this site is funded by big oil. When asked for proof he just proclaims that it is something that all of his friends know.
These guys may be from the Hard Left, but they are not actually hard.
They avoid face to face confrontation and debate.
Many Government Organisations have Climate Changes Officers that have the mandate of the CEO or Board, but these officers are actually scared of confrontation within their own organisations.
They haven’t got the guts to confronts sceptics such as engineers.
They are not leftists, or of the ‘hard left’.
‘Left wing’ may where you are be a convenient term for ‘people I don’t agree with’ but accepting climate science and fighting climate change is not polarised to one end of the political spectrum.
Griff
You make a very obvious error, in thinking that CAGW is somehow related to science or the environment. A corporate climate change officer may have a science or environmental background, but their duties don’t include any actual science. Their duties are political and clearly left leaning.
I have yet to encounter one scientist who could explain why we need to “fight” climate change, when they haven’t demonstrated with any degree of confidence that we need to “fight” it!!! All the scientists have is puter models, which will produce any outcome the programmer wants them to produce!!! Humans always adapted in the past, & we’ll have to adapt to it in the future, or we die!!! Simples!!!
Actually most of the United Nations created IPCC is made up of bureaucrats as is most of the Climate Crisis Community.
Griff and his ilk barking about 97% consensus is not even an argument, because you would be hard pressed to find a real scientist who would disagree that the Climate is in a constant state of change, sometimes cooling (a really bad thing) and as for now warming (which by all indications has been a very good thing).
But few scientist would stake their reputation on a claim that it is catastrophic and even fewer would argue that the bureaucrats can do anything about it. The climate changing that is.
As we have no control it is an exercise in futility to wring our hands over it. But the Central Authoritarians have created this hobgoblin and intend to ride it until they have managed to frighten enough generations of children into bowing in obeisance to the Bureaucratic Climate Gods. This is all about centralizing control under a global governance for population control and resource rationing,
Are you a leftists, Griff? How do you define yourself?
When confronted, almost all the leftists that I know define themselves as centrists. They have spent their entire academic career surrounded by people either like themselves or further left. After graduation they have actively sought out groups that agree with them, refusing to have anything to do with low lifes who fail to appreciate the wonders that socialism brings.
As a result, they live in an echo chamber in which nobody disagrees with them. So obviously the whole world agrees with them as well.
So we shouldn’t take them at their word when they tell us they are using global warming as a vehicle to destroy capitalism and impose socialism?
“They avoid face to face confrontation and debate.” That is why the “debate” was over before it was never held!!!
When they use phrases like ‘the lens of literature….’ you know you are dealing with airheads doing a pseudo course.
A very few of these hopefuls will get berths on the Green Luxury Express. The vast majority will end up in dead end employment. A young man of my acquaintance desired a career in the Security business. Four years after graduating with average grades, he is working on the bottom rung of the career ladder at Go Ape.
I agree that most of them will end up in dead end employment, and they will be 100% convinced that this lack of opportunity for them is the result of capitalisms failure. And they will support ever more government to fix this travesty of justice and lift them up to the positions they believe themselves entitled to.
“My goal is to use the lens of literature and philosophy to study and hopefully help repair humans’ relationship to our environments”
roflmao. Not going into engineering then. The problem is the eco-jobs probably pay more than what you average engineer gets as they are mostly government funded.
Most of the people who talk like that, have never once set foot outside a major city.
The should forget “international” travel by air for at least as long as it takes for them to retire.
These silly naive brainwashed kids…
When the PDO and AMO reenter their 30-year cool cycles in a few years, the CAGW hysteria will slowly die down as temp trends flatten/fall and it becomes obvious that CO2 is not the climate control knob…
Most of these kids pursing climatology studies will end up as baristas at Starbucks or waiters at restaurants while trying to pay off their $50,000 college debts on $35,000/yr…
Our Leftist public school indoctrination camps have really screwed these poor kids…
“When the PDO and AMO reenter their 30-year cool cycles in a few years, the CAGW hysteria will slowly die down as temp trends flatten/fall and it becomes obvious that CO2 is not the climate control knob…”
I think the fooled kids and adults will have a rude awakening one of these days.
I can hear Michael Mann now reassuring the alarmists: “Don’t worry folks, this last decade of cooling doesn’t negate the Human-caused Climate Change hypothesis.”
Mann’s audience may be smaller at that time. Fewer True Believers as they shiver from the cold.
They’ll play that old “The long-term trend (measured from the Little Ice Age, conveniently) is still up” game as long as they can – and as long as the gullible are stupid enough to buy it.
That’s right. The alarmists don’t have much else. They are hanging on by their fingernails.
climastrology
I guess that Mimi is too young (25, as the article states) to have but a very nebulous and very fractional knowledge, not to mention understanding, of what “the lens of literature and philosophy” can tell us… Youth arrogance? Ignorance? Mere stupidity?…
You know, Mimi, literature and philosophy need a lot of reading and thinking; and reading and thinking take a lot of time… unless you believe in reincarnation keeping the memories of previous lives, you did not yet got enough age to grasp that subject. Sorry to have to say that, but it is the unquestionable truth, known at leasts since Aristotle (he wrote something about minimum age to speak about certain matters).
“the lens of literature and philosophy” went through my universal translator (73 y/o model) and came out “the bias of fiction and mental masturbation.”
“Sustainability consultant”? At 23 !!!! ????
Where else would we get Five-Year-Plans? The Soviet requires all left shoes. [Pun intended.]
The future is shapeshifting-
Rising temperatures are causing some animals to change shape (msn.com)
A young grad could get fat on that and QED
They are changing shape alright. They are getting fat from all the food that warmer weather makes available.
oh great making more of the “saul” type useless idiots;-(
really needs to be a forced year of actual physical work on farms or heavy industry BEFORE theyre allowed to go to uni
We already have 100% renewable energy production, use all the coal in the stock pile you mine more, use all the gas in the storage tanks you pump more, fuel rods become expended you produce more. 100% renewable.
From the article: “California is facing a drought so devastating, some publications call it “biblical”. Colorado now has “fire years” instead of “fire seasons”. Miami, which sees more dramatic hurricanes each year, is contemplating building a huge seawall in one of the city’s most scenic tourist districts to protect it from storm surges.“Once you learn how damaged the world’s ecosystems are, it’s not really something you can unsee,” says Rachel Larrivee, 23, a sustainability consultant based in Boston.”
So much disinformation, and so little time.
California has experienced droughts in the past that have lasted for decades at a time. This was back when human-derived CO2 was not an issue. Drought is a natural state of affairs for California.
I don’t know of any Colorado wildfires that have been burning for years. I suspect there are none.
And Miami has not seen “more dramatic” hurricanes, it sees the same type of hurricanes it has experienced since before human-derived CO2 was an issue.
All of the above is pure hyperbole, and isn’t true, and yet this is the kind of thing the kids are exposed to every day.
The writer of the article is sadly misinformed and she is misinforming her readers as a result.
You can find scary, untruthful articles like this every day on a news feed. The kids are under mental assault. All of us are, actually.
Sorry, a couple of thousands isn’t flocking in a job market with Billions of jobs.
Find a better description of their interests.
By that standard, young people are flocking to crime and politics, but that’s redundant.
More parasites. Just what we need.
Don’t worry. Jobs, money and industry will soon move away from these places where these clowns are, and into more friendly jurisdictions.
Jobs have always moved to friendlier places and have been moving from the West for decades. Our “leaders” are now doubling down on stupidity. I hope it is not too late to reverse the trend.
Young men, join the trades. $100K is easy to get after you get licensed, and wages will only go up.
Let the idiots take the Enviro studies degrees with $200K in college debt. Then they have to go beg for government funding at foundations.
Engineering is also going to pay more and more.
They need to read “The Roads Must Roll”
“a life of well funded government or lobbyist expenses”
If there’s no productive economy, there’ll be no tax money to
subsidize their parasitic lifestylespay their salaries.I think the part you crossed out was more accurate.
Why not?
worthless education to do a worthless job
My son is 30. He went through the university hoops and spent 2 years in management consulting. After doing some carpentry apprenticeship he is now working for himself. He and his friends are in very high demand – there is a real shortage of people who will work.
We’ll see how long their enthusiasm lasts once they get jobs, get married, and try raising families along with the associated costs and taxes. The young are often idealistic until they have to face reality. Then the idealism tends to evaporate very quickly.
I wonder why they totally miss all STEM subjects from their list of “more stable paths”.
They may need that for “net zero” fantasies.
> I’m pretty sure “the lens of literature and philosophy” won’t help solve the currently insurmountable engineering impediments to creating a 100% renewable energy powered future. But it sure sounds like a path to a life of well funded government or lobbyist expenses paid conferences, international travel, a comfortable office, a sexy sounding job title, and no heavy lifting.
I hear where you’re coming from, but if the tech solutions to climate change are insurmountable for even the ‘heavy lifting’ engineers then I think repairing our relationship with our environments sounds like a pretty decent solution, as it should entail us taking more responsibility for our consumption and emissions and reducing them. There’s an argument to be made that all the engineers’ promises about clean tech are actually exacerbating our broken relationship to nature.