Guest essay by Eric Worrall
According to researchers, climate worriers should consider moving to asylums, small isolated cold climate countries, which they see as lifeboats or arks which maximise their chance of surviving the coming climate apocalypse.
Tasmania among best places to survive global societal collapse, new study finds
Tasmania has been ranked one of the top five places in the world to survive a global collapse in society, according to a British study.
Key points:
- A UK study rated Tasmania one of the best places to survive a collapse in society
- Scientists say Tasmania’s climate, agricultural resources and electricity supply make it an ideal refuge should “things go pear-shaped”
- However, they say the state could not cope with an influx of people
Tasmania has been listed alongside New Zealand, Iceland, the United Kingdom and Ireland as potential havens of the future.
The study, published in the journal Sustainability, found Tasmania could become recognised “as Australia’s ‘local refuge (lifeboat)’ as conditions on the continental mainland may become less amenable to supporting large human populations in the future”.
While many people have already moved to Tasmania to escape the heat in other states, some doomsday preppers are weighing up the island state as a post-apocalyptic option.
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Professor Byrne said there is no data on how many people move to Tasmania each year fearing the impact of future climate change scenarios.
“There’s no doubt in my mind that we’re seeing the edge of this effect right now.
“That’s why I’m here.”
Professor Byrne moved to Tasmania with his family from the Gold Coast in 2018.
“I’ve worked in the field of climate change adaptation for quite a while now and have become increasingly concerned about what the global models are telling us … about the intensity and scale of the change that’s happening,” he said.
“When the opportunity came to move down here to Tasmania, it was a no-brainer.”
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The following is the study which triggered this excitement, respect to whoever decoded the abstract.
An Analysis of the Potential for the Formation of ‘Nodes of Persisting Complexity’
by Nick King and Aled Jones *
Human civilisation has undergone a continuous trajectory of rising sociopolitical complexity since its inception; a trend which has undergone a dramatic recent acceleration. This phenomenon has resulted in increasingly severe perturbation of the Earth System, manifesting recently as global-scale effects such as climate change. These effects create an increased risk of a global ‘de-complexification’ (collapse) event in which complexity could undergo widespread reversal. ‘Nodes of persisting complexity’ are geographical locations which may experience lesser effects from ‘de-complexification’ due to having ‘favourable starting conditions’ that may allow the retention of a degree of complexity. A shortlist of nations (New Zealand, Iceland, the United Kingdom, Australia and Ireland) were identified and qualitatively analysed in detail to ascertain their potential to form ‘nodes of persisting complexity’ (New Zealand is identified as having the greatest potential). The analysis outputs are applied to identify insights for enhancing resilience to ‘de-complexification’.
Read more: https://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/13/15/8161/htm
I think all the climate worriers moving to their chosen asylums is potentially a win / win scenario. They get to live out their fantasies without suffering the angst of having to endure more than a few days per year of warm weather. The rest of us get to live our lives without having to endure their endless eco-proselytisation and demands that normal people conform to their beliefs.
The losers will be the current inhabitants of cold climate countries, who will have to put up with an influx of climate zealots demanding they turn down their home heating thermostats.
Here in the mountains of Colorado the prospect of warming and rising seas doesn’t seem bad at all.
Yeah??? Just wait for more of the California Liberals to move into your state and see how you like it…
Before I move into any new state the first thing I will check is their gun laws.
Its quite funny actually, whenever my liberal facebook friends start bunnying on about defending the police or not incarcerating criminals, I say “great, if I carry a gun and shoot people who attack me, nobody will arrest me”. They find this confusing.
Colorado is already lost.
Wouldn’t Siberia be better ?
Another Monckton of Brenchley takes no nonsense from the authorities
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9844759/Viscountess-92-used-fathers-best-naval-language-bailiffs.html
” concerned about what the global models are telling us ”
[ Professor of Human Geography and Planning at the University of Tasmania Jason Byrne ]
Bless his little heart!
Don’t anyone tell Jason the models lie.
This is really funny. The big migration, every Fall where I live in eastern Canada, is to the much warmer climate of Florida, for the winter… and not a sheep in sight as far as I know.
We here in South Florida call it the snowbirds migration.
I call Florida Gods Waiting room.
maybe other kinds of sheep…
Yes please move to the colder remoter regions to survive climate change. Don’t forget snowshoes, lots of blankets and some indestructible ID so that when they pull you from under the mile thick ice as it recedes at at the next interglacial they can at least know who was foolish enough to fall for this scam.
Liar several times over: CO2 causes climate change, that there’s significant human caused climate change, that any small warming that has happened is generally bad, and that any reduction in biodiversity has anything directly to do with CO2. The last one is a big whopper if animal lovers think that giving up real fuels is going to magically restore the rain forests or the fish stocks. Case in point extensive farms of wind turbines and solar panels, and the required power lines set up in rural and forested areas, and one of the most tragic is orangutans chased out of their forest, which was mowed down for biodiesel pal oil plantations.
Do you laugh or do you cry ##
How can anyone be so shallow yet at the same time is so close to working out what is going on?
here goes:
Folks have been ‘seeking asylum’ in the UK for millennia.
They DID NOT come for the nice weather.
In fact, as far as the UK goes, they studiously avoided some parts, notably:
The 2 real reasons they came to England is that:
Thus put (1) and (2) together and you get Goldilocks Land ** = reasonably predictable and stable weather with lots to eat
(**) surely Shirley = some anagram of England?
Hello hello enquiring and agile mind, have you cracked it, d’ya see the connection with the other places on the list?
In fact England rather becomes the odd one out, but the others are have been or are recently subject to lots of volcanism – Volcanism = new, fresh, fertile and good-growing dirt.
In fact = Goldilocks Dirt
England had some good volcanoes and naturally good quality dirt but in the way of good dirt, becomes eroded by ‘Natural Processes’.
Where England got 2 bites of the cherry and The English got as many cherries as they could eat, England regularly gets swept clean of tired, old and eroded dirt by regular Ice Ages.
Similar to how The Laurentide Sheet swept Canadia clean, ordinary ice-sheets cleaned and ploughed England – much of the English farmland soil is officially classified as ‘Glacial Till‘
And good-growing stuff it is. I had 259 acres f it in Cumbria. Not too far North of where the Romans came to grow wine as it happens. I could grow wine to this very day if I wanted – my grapevine here could be the star in any remake of ‘Day of the Triffids’
And Good Dirt makes for Good Climate *#
It also makes healthy happy and well adjusted people.
Until muppets like this come along advising Government hence every one else and get it all so very wrong – contemporary England being the perfect case-in-point
Thus how England somehow manages to only grow 50% of the food that’s eaten/needed and how we had (2nd only to Italy I think), THE worst per capita Covid fatality rate in the whole world.
*# The dirt does it by creating an overabundance of plant growth.
Thus: lots of dead plant material falls to the ground and becomes part of the dirt/soil. Being made of Cellulose and Lignin, that material has an epic affinity for water and it is that ‘trapped water‘ in the dirt/soil that controls the weather/climate.
Not ‘trapped heat’ in the sky – trapped water been known about for 1,000’s of years which is why England has always been such a honeypot.
Or porridge-pot if you answer to “Goldilocks”
Which is what the muppet in this story is actually telling us, but doesn’t realise it.
so near yet so far……..
## At this mo in time, I tink ‘crying’ is the preferred option
Drunk again, peta?
You don’t seem to have noticed the increase in flooding in England, summer and winter, in the last 2 decades…
Thank you for not selecting Canada, eventhough it is far and away the best choice for what ails their fevered phantasies. A poker tell here. These worriers are all from little cheek-to-jowl toy countries. Vistas, solitude, self reflection … unsettle them.
Weird choices. These places don’t make anything. How would these places continue civilization. They also don’t make enough food for themselves. Bizarre choices. Britain is the most obvious one, but damn can’t we just move a little further north or higher up in the next few thousand years?
I suggest you check the percentage of world cities and world population which are right down there at sea level…
And are still there!
Tas is substantially a food exporter.
Picked up a load of frozen White Castle slider patties from the docks in Philadelphia a few years ago. They came from New Zealand.
Yes, everyone worried about climate change should immediately all move to Ireland. I am sure the Irish would be delighted.
Meanwhile here in my hot old dried-up Texas, I pray for climate change every day – rain is good.
But climate science predicts the rain isn’t coming… and your aquifers are drying up… move now while someone will still buy your property. Same applies to anyone in Florida.
Gee Griff, do you remember back in them there oldy days when their used to be rain and people pretended it wasn’t important and great many Germans drowned.
Gee how long ago was that? Oh yea. Last month.
Well done, Griff. Get you Lord to pat you on the head next time you are summoned to his manor house.
Just a little above you’re going on about flooding, now you say rain’s not coming. Which is it?
Once again I call for all climate emergency worriers to move to Antarctica.
The reasons are numerous.
NO oil companies, NO fracking, NO automobiles, NO coal power, NO nuclear power, NO forest fires, NO coral bleaching, NO polar bear starvation and a cooling climate which they all desperately want to live in.
Best of all, THERE IS NO RACISM anywhere.
For the life of me, I just can’t believe that there isn’t a rush to go and live there because it’s the PERFECT place to eliminate the emergencies that plague all their lives presently.
It’s too white 😉
Foolish man. Everyone knows if you want to survive you get a beachside property in Martha’s Vineyard like Obama and John Kerry.
“Tasmania among best places to survive global societal collapse, new study finds
By Fiona Blackwood”
I think Fiona Blackwood is good evidence that some sort of societal collapse may already be underway. But not in the manner she fondly imagines.
Meanwhile, the citizens of the UK are still waiting hopefully for the “Mediterranean Climate” that the Met Office promised us a decade or so ago.
”Professor Byrne said “I’ve worked in the field of climate change adaptation for quite a while now and have become increasingly concerned about what the global models are telling us…”
Its possible anything ”could” happen ”if” you shape it the way you want.
”Professor Byrne said there is no data on how many people move to Tasmania each year fearing the impact of future climate change scenarios.”
We don’t want a state full of alarmists thankyou. Its bad enough putting up with Bob Brown and his disciple’s trying to shut Tasmanian industries down..
‘… there is no data on how many…’
Maybe in the same way there is no data the amount of unicorns killed in traffic accidents?
I’m not sure the Tasmanian Devils would be very welcoming.
Ummm….. the Icelanders are happy to welcome Outsiders as guests, but they REALLY do NOT want any of us moving to their island. Can’t say as I blame them, either. I truly don’t want any of The Them moving in to my neighborhood. They can’t even shovel snow off their own front steps.
Really? Icelanders don’t shovel the snow??
(and why is that an issue?)
None
Don’t forget Canada! Nobody remembers that area on the map that is between Alaska and Washington. We don’t care about “global warming”: we’ll just find another frozen lake to play hockey on a few hundred kilometers North.
Global warming is the best that that has ever happened to canada
I want some more please
Seems New Zealand just keeps mounting on the point and truely is the lucky country. No covid, awesome scenery, great people, strong leader for a prime minister(actually the last couple have been pretty damned fine), and now we get to be the best place on the planet for navigating climate change. Not to mention that we are near the top (if not the top) for olympic medals per capita.
An Olympic medal is a proof that you can do something totally useless better than anybody else.
Curious George…. what a sad little(or big) man you must be.
What’s that about hypocrisy, Simon?
Well? Explain? I’m not the grinch complaining about the Olympics being pointless.
Knuckles, Simon. Stop being a hypocrite. (as if that will ever happen)
OK so you got nothing but ad-homs. Rather telling… and boring.
There’s that hyprocisy again, Simon. That is not “ad-hom”, it’s a demonstrable fact.
I have NEVER called you anything but Simon, but you have engaged in name-calling with me. You complain about name-calling all the time but have no problem doing it yourself, as demonstrated above.
That is by definition hypocrisy. That makes you a hypocrite. No ad-hominem in pointing out a provable fact.
OK this is weird. You called me “Knuckles Simon” which by definition is a pure form of ad hom attack as you are attacking me personally (rather than what I am saying) and I my ad hom on you was?
I’ll look forward to this.
Punctuation is important. I said “Knuckles, Simon”, as a reminder of your personal attack on me.
Well come on, what was my personal attack on you? I’m good but I’m not psychic.
Knuckles, as I keep reminding you.
But you’re too dense and hypocritical to realize it. I’m done.
So you call me dense and then with no reference to anything say I called you knuckles? You sure are done…. I’d say over cooked.
Much like the california loons and NYC yankees moving to areas with friendly social people and low taxes, then promptly louse it up.
Really!?
Just what survival skills do you bring to Tasmania, professor Byrne?
Obviously another urban consumer that thinks everyone else exists to take orders and to keep Byrne supplied. Or does Byrne plan to be another Alexander Pearce and live off his neighbors?
Given that a D-O event is just as likely as their absurd warming preditions, how did those locals fare in the last few?
Badly, it would seem.
The sort of areas of which they write have been called “refugia” and have been studied for many years.
For example the Southern Appalachians in eastern North America have been noted as a place that both animals and plants, from areas to the north, survived the last glacial advance.
Here is an article using the term — ignore the reference to modern AGW :
How Refugia Will Protect Some Animals and Plants from Climate Change – Geography Realm
Hey, hands off. We don’t want an influx of climate nutters. Besides which, the British Bigotry Corporation will be so disappointed if there isn’t a climate disaster.