Cow tipping? Apparently they're actually trying to milk a wild cow. SheltieBoy from USA, CC BY 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons

14,000 Scientists Warn of Imminent Climate Tipping Points

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Climate scientists have issued an updated climate emergency declaration, urging us to take them seriously this time.

World Scientists’ Warning of a Climate Emergency 2021 

William J Ripple,  Christopher Wolf,  Thomas M Newsome,  Jillian W GreggTimothy M Lenton,  Ignacio Palomo,  Jasper A J Eikelboom,  Beverly E Law,  Saleemul HuqPhilip B Duffy,  Johan Rockström

In 2019, Ripple and colleagues (2020) warned of untold suffering and declared a climate emergency together with more than 11,000 scientist signatories from 153 countries. They presented graphs of planetary vital signs indicating very troubling trends, along with little progress by humanity to address climate change. On the basis of these data and scientists’ moral obligation to “clearly warn humanity of any catastrophic threat,” they called for transformative change. Since the article’s publication, more than 2,800 additional scientists have signed that declaration of a climate emergency (see supplemental file S1 for the current signatory list); in addition, 1,990 jurisdictions in 34 countries have now formally declared or recognized a climate emergency (figure 1p). But, at the same time, there has been an unprecedented surge in climate-related disasters since 2019, including devastating flooding in South America and Southeast Asia, record shattering heat waves and wildfires in Australia and the Western United States, an extraordinary Atlantic hurricane season, and devastating cyclones in Africa, South Asia, and the West Pacific (see supplemental file S2 for attribution information). There is also mounting evidence that we are nearing or have already crossed tipping points associated with critical parts of the Earth system, including the West Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets, warm-water coral reefs, and the Amazon rainforest (supplemental file S2). Given these alarming developments, we need short, frequent, and easily accessible updates on the climate emergency.

Read more: https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/advance-article/doi/10.1093/biosci/biab079/6325731

There is no evidence I can see that this climate emergency will be any more significant than previous climate emergency declarations and tipping point warnings, dating back to the grandaddy of climate emergency declarations in 1989.

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Pauleta
July 29, 2021 2:03 pm

Is the 2020 version the one signed by Mickey Mouse? And did he sign again?

edit: We would never know

Signatures unavailableViewing signatures is currently unavailable. We are working on the issue.

Reply to  Pauleta
July 29, 2021 2:15 pm

“Untold suffering” … when will they finally tell us?

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  John Shewchuk
July 30, 2021 1:19 am

Suffering as yet untold.

Kpar
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
July 30, 2021 1:52 pm

Well, I don’t have all day.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Pauleta
July 29, 2021 2:20 pm

Signatures unavailable! WTF, are they afraid to go on record?

Reply to  Pauleta
July 29, 2021 3:05 pm

What happened to that letter put out years ago from scientists that claimed climate change alarmism is being blown way out of proportion? As I recall, there were over 35000 signatures that included education credentials. How about we throw that back in their face?

Laws of Nature
Reply to  David Kamakaris
July 29, 2021 3:54 pm
John Hultquist
Reply to  Laws of Nature
July 29, 2021 6:37 pm

I don’t remember the date — likely 2008 — when Nancy and I signed via the web. We are near the end of the Hs.
She did get a PhD, and died this spring.

Reply to  John Hultquist
July 29, 2021 10:19 pm

Many condolences to you John! We are sorry to hear of your loss.

John Hultquist
Reply to  ATheoK
July 30, 2021 6:34 am

Thank you.

Juan Slayton
Reply to  John Hultquist
August 2, 2021 8:08 am

We, too, are sad at this news. A loss for all of us.
John & Nancy Slayton

saveenergy
Reply to  David Kamakaris
July 29, 2021 4:52 pm

“As I recall, there were over 35000 signatures”

Actually it was … 31,487

H.R.
Reply to  saveenergy
July 29, 2021 5:04 pm

Approximately 😜

Reply to  saveenergy
July 29, 2021 5:25 pm

Just looked it up. You are correct.

saveenergy
Reply to  David Kamakaris
July 30, 2021 2:01 am

Yes, I’ve told you a million times in the last hour to stop exaggerating (:-))

Drake
Reply to  saveenergy
July 30, 2021 9:30 am

That WAS NOT an exaggeration, it was climate change scientific rounding! 30,001 rounds to 35,000.

All temperatures round UP in all cases in the last 50 years, round down from 1900 to 1955, etc. Climate science is very complicated.

Jak
Reply to  David Kamakaris
July 30, 2021 9:55 am

You know what happened to it!same thing thats happened to free speech its banned!

n.n
Reply to  Pauleta
July 29, 2021 3:35 pm

Audits are anti-Democrat. Full stop.

Rudi
Reply to  n.n
July 29, 2021 11:41 pm

Trust in the election system is essential for a democracy.
Those not working for increased trust in the election system are
not working for democracy.

Kpar
Reply to  Rudi
July 30, 2021 1:56 pm

Problem: Questions of authenticity in election
Answer: Audit the elections
Problem: NO AUDITS- Democrat Party
Question: What do they have to hide?

Peter
Reply to  Pauleta
July 29, 2021 4:26 pm

This is actually the same site and same organisation as previously, with ~ 3k NEW signatures on top of the previously dodgy ones. Many of the new ones are not well credentialed either. So really this is just rehashing of old and largely discredited news.

alloytoo
Reply to  Peter
July 29, 2021 6:32 pm

Argumentum ad populum.

What’s amusing is that many of the people on the list are not actually climate scientists, so it’s ok for non-Climate scientists to blindly support this, but not to actually point out real problems?

Reply to  Peter
July 29, 2021 9:00 pm

Same same frauds and posers. Boring and tedious. Put these puppets back in their box.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Peter
July 30, 2021 6:40 am

“So really this is just rehashing of old and largely discredited news.”

Unfortunately, many people will take this seriously, not having the benefit of WUWT to put this into perspecptive.

Paul Jenkinson
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 30, 2021 10:34 am

Absolutely! I’m a lay person and WUWT is gold for me.Puts all this crazy alarmism in perspective.Please keep up the good work guys.

Vuk
July 29, 2021 2:06 pm

one way or the other “We are Doomed”
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/peter-brookes-times-cartoon-july-30-2021-bp5bw85bt
Times’ cartoon

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Vuk
July 30, 2021 1:50 am

That’s a great cartoon. Slightly puzzled that it was allowed to appear in print cause the Times, lamentably, lately has gone full throttle on the climate change organ and joined the caterwaulers.

July 29, 2021 2:09 pm

Watching BBC news right now. They are making all sorts of crazy claims about “extreme weather” and the “climate crisis”.
It’s solid gold twaddle that they are obviously ramping up for the Scottish gabfest at COP 26.

Charlie
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
July 29, 2021 3:10 pm

That is indeed all this is. They will have worked themselves up in to a hysterical frenzy by the time COP comes around in November.

Reply to  Charlie
July 29, 2021 3:16 pm

Won’t all that energy from the hysterical frenzy cause more climate warming? They need to be careful and purchase some carbon indulgences to offset their frenzy.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
July 29, 2021 9:33 pm

Andrew wrote of their “hysterical frenzy”.
I think it should be referred to as “COPulation”. 🙄

Reply to  Pop Piasa
July 30, 2021 10:58 am

Brilliant

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
July 29, 2021 10:50 pm

They won’t be purchasing anything with their own money, it’ll be with everyone else’s money!!! Ah, the globul wealth redistribution society ALWAYS uses other peoples money, funny how their bank accounts swell in such crises!!!

Robertvd
Reply to  Alan the Brit
July 30, 2021 2:10 am

And even than there is not enough so they will print it into worthlessness destroying all savings and again the poor will suffer the most.
Follow the yellow brick road.

Jak
Reply to  Robertvd
July 30, 2021 10:23 am

Geoengineeringwatch.org

Reply to  Alan the Brit
July 30, 2021 10:59 am

But haven’t us deniers all got pots of cash that Big Oil gave us?

Robertvd
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
July 30, 2021 2:07 am

Not more warming just more suffering especially for the poor and those who love freedom.
Dictatorial systems whatever name you give them only look great on paper.

Jak
Reply to  Robertvd
July 30, 2021 10:19 am

Geoengineeringwatch.org

spock
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
August 1, 2021 8:55 pm

Or they should by the fart stopper! One size fits all.

cow fart stopper.jpg
Scissor
Reply to  Charlie
July 29, 2021 4:19 pm

What are the odds of COP taking place? Based on all of the fear of mutants being shown, it might be low.

H.R.
Reply to  Scissor
July 29, 2021 5:18 pm

Let them eat virtual cake, quaff virtual cocktails and expensive wines, eat virtual filet mignon and virtual jumbo prawns, and cavort with virtual hookers.

Nahhhhh…. without the frills, the whole thing gets called off.

So I think they’re willing to risk “Death By Covid” for a heapin’ helpin’ of all the goodies, Scissor.

Scissor
Reply to  H.R.
July 29, 2021 5:31 pm

Definitely, but I imagine some routinely connect with the virtual hookers in any case.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Scissor
July 29, 2021 10:52 pm

Yeah, but this time somebody else pays for the ladies of the night, why not when for them the pleasure is ALL free!!! 😉

Greytide
Reply to  H.R.
July 30, 2021 6:48 am

Surely it will be virtual Vegan!! Mo meat allowed.

Art
Reply to  Scissor
July 29, 2021 7:02 pm

Odds are 100%. They would never pass up one of these CO2 spewing junkets.

Jak
Reply to  Art
July 30, 2021 10:22 am

They follow me around blocking my comments!Geoengineeringwatch.org

Jak
Reply to  Jak
July 30, 2021 10:22 am

Geoengineeringwatch.org

Reply to  Jak
July 30, 2021 1:14 pm

Has it occurred to you that you’re being blocked because you’re spamming that website? I just read a bunch of comments from you with the same site, over and over.

Jak
Reply to  Scissor
July 30, 2021 10:20 am

Look up the lockstep scenarios for the future of technology book written by rockerfeller foundations 2010share climate lockdown are next all planned event

Jak
Reply to  Charlie
July 30, 2021 10:18 am

Geoengineeringwatch.org

Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
July 29, 2021 9:52 pm

Watching BBC news right now.

You cannot expect my sympathy when you make the choice. If you were shackled to a chain facing a screen showing BBC with eyelids pinned open then I would be sympathetic.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  RickWill
July 29, 2021 10:53 pm

Recommend that you watch the BBC News with the sound off, it’s so much more informative!!! ;-))

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Alan the Brit
July 30, 2021 9:16 am

Or better yet, just turn the TV off. Paraphrasing – “If you don’t watch the ‘news,’ you are uninformed; if you watch the ‘news,’ you are misinformed.”

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
July 30, 2021 1:30 am

They are preparing the participants for rain, lots of it. Anticipate the jamboree to sink in an overflowing river Clyde.

But hey, just like Copenhagen, it will be a resounding success for cab drivers and ladies of the night.

Jak
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
July 30, 2021 10:05 am

Well the 2010 book titled the lockstep scenarios for the future of technology explains the birus and mask etc and their next lock down is gonna be based on climate change.written by rockerfeller foundations and they also just spent 25million to combat free speech look it up very easy to find before they shut the web down share also btw look up Geoengineeringwatch .org

Jak
Reply to  Jak
July 30, 2021 10:06 am

This was all planned for a very long time!

Sunny
July 29, 2021 2:10 pm

I saw this on instagram lol I was waiting for this post… I wonder which scientists signed it this time

Rich Lambert
Reply to  Sunny
July 29, 2021 2:37 pm

The political and social scientists.

MarkW
Reply to  Sunny
July 29, 2021 4:06 pm

Apparently they don’t want us to know.

July 29, 2021 2:11 pm

We MUST save this document to wave in their faces in future years when the climate crisis has failed to appear. We mustn’t let them memory-hole it.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 29, 2021 6:42 pm
Steve Z
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 30, 2021 8:37 am

Apparently, Texans last February didn’t get the memo about the “end of snow”, 32 years later.

We were also told that the North Pole would be ice-free by the year 2000.

Al Gore told us in 1998 that half of Florida would be flooded, but sales of beachfront condos in Florida are still booming, and Obama, the president who told us he would stop the seas from rising, bought a beachfront mansion on Martha’s Vineyard.

We were also told there would be no more glaciers in Glacier National Park by 2020, but the glaciers are still there, and the signs were taken down in 2019.

In 2019 the Queen of Queens (NY), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, was telling us that disastrous climate change would strike us in 12 years, which is 10 years from now.

Does anyone notice a pattern here? Most of the alarmists predict a catastrophe for about 10 years after the time they give a warning, then when the real world doesn’t match their prediction, they move the goal posts another 10 years into the future and re-issue their “warning”.

After over 30 years of failed predictions of catastrophic warming and flooding, and after the failed predictions from the 1970’s of an ice age, those of us old enough to remember them have many reasons to doubt the latest doom-and-gloom predictions. Who knows, maybe Greta Thunberg and AOC will change their tune in 20 years or so.

Reply to  Steve Z
July 30, 2021 11:12 am

You say “. . . Obama, the president who told us he would stop the seas from rising, . . .”

The way I heard it, he claimed he could “walk on water.”

Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
July 29, 2021 2:32 pm

Last year, some kind sole saved it to the Internet Way Back Machine HERE

Reply to  Steve Case
July 29, 2021 2:44 pm

My worry is that they’ll get it all removed from Way back as well – there are a lot of very powerful people with a lot of money invested in the scam. They’ll stop at nothing to cover their bums in future..
I’ve download a copy of this latest stupid claim they’ve all signed.
I’ve decided I’m going to download and store as many of these documents as I can on a local drive at home and back the bugger up). We can’t let them get away with it in years to come.

John VC
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
July 29, 2021 3:01 pm

Suspect that will become a valuable commodity when Dr. Soon’s recent prediction is hard upon us

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
July 29, 2021 11:06 pm

It is interesting that the political clamour for control over the evil wicked internet have gone quiet, for now at least!!! I dare say it will resurface it’s ugly head before too long, after all this freedom crap isn’t all it’s cracked up to be, people allowed to express an opinion un-sanctioned by the authorities, to question & challenge, Big Brother would never allow it!!! I guess there is no equivalent USA version, but at too many times, my heart harks back to that closing scene in “V for Vendetta”, in that wonderful bit where the explosive laden underground train passes beneath the Houses of Parliament & blows the whole corrupt institution to smithereens!!! They will bring themselves down eventually with their own corruption!!!

The Great Walrus
Reply to  Steve Case
July 29, 2021 8:46 pm

Do fish use computers now?

saveenergy
Reply to  Steve Case
July 30, 2021 2:05 am

“some kind sole saved it”

sounds fishy to me !

Mike McMillan
Reply to  saveenergy
July 30, 2021 1:00 pm

A well-heeled sole.

I’ve saved a copy to my site as well.

MarkW
Reply to  Steve Case
July 30, 2021 6:06 am

Last year, some kind sole 

At least he wasn’t a heel.

Reply to  Steve Case
August 3, 2021 6:36 am

I think it’s gone 🙁

Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
July 29, 2021 3:06 pm

According to the BBC we’ve already passed tipping point. If we’ve already tipped we’re in past the point of no return. So no point in worrying anymore

Bill Toland
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
July 29, 2021 3:30 pm

If these climate tipping points actually existed, why weren’t they triggered during the Holocene Climate Optimum?

Reply to  Bill Toland
July 29, 2021 4:46 pm

….. because they haven’t made a phony hockey stick go back that far, silly.

Reply to  Bill Toland
July 29, 2021 6:02 pm

Because no-one played hockey at that time, so no hockey stick-shaped rulers to create the graph

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Bill Toland
July 29, 2021 11:11 pm

Anybody got any idea why yet again, at just after 6:00am, my blasted heating system kicked in albeit only for a few minutes – 20ish? It’s end of July in Blighty down in the South-West, glorious Devonshire on the coast!!! Must be Globul Warming I suppose!!!

Jak
Reply to  Alan the Brit
July 30, 2021 10:37 am

Geoengineeringwatch.org

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Bill Toland
July 29, 2021 11:35 pm

Or at any time during the past 4 billion years?

n.n
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
July 29, 2021 3:40 pm

The Earth is greening at a catastrophic rate, which puts Greens at unease. Also, there is no end of sex, conception, and birth of “burdens” in the foreseeable future, which puts planned populationists at unease.

Jak
Reply to  n.n
July 30, 2021 10:38 am

Geoengineeringwatch.org

Scissor
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
July 29, 2021 4:22 pm

I worry about Guam.

Reply to  Scissor
July 30, 2021 11:14 am

It tipped over, but nobody noticed.

Carbon500
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
August 3, 2021 1:56 am

The IPCC was formed in 1988. How much longer will we have to wait for doomsday?

July 29, 2021 2:15 pm

This is such an egregious case of “crying wolf” that it will stand as the defining example of that phenomenon for centuries or millennia to come.

Reply to  Hatter Eggburn
July 29, 2021 3:44 pm

No, this is actually Chicken Little who is afraid that the sky is falling down, “crying wolf” is the wrong metaphor for these scaremongering science fiction believers.

Art
Reply to  Hans Erren
July 29, 2021 7:05 pm

No, Chicken Little believed what he was spouting. These guys don’t.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Art
July 29, 2021 11:15 pm

The very definition of “sophistry”! A sophist was a paid man from ancient Greece, to stand on a street corner to spout whatever he was paid to spout, whether he believed it or not, usually “not” after all it’s job ain’t it!!!

Reply to  Art
July 30, 2021 2:24 am

You would be surprised how many deeply are convinced that the climate tipping point is near.

MarkW
Reply to  Hans Erren
July 30, 2021 6:07 am

Or already passed

Editor
July 29, 2021 2:16 pm

The post begins,”Climate scientists have issued an updated climate emergency declaration, urging us to take them seriously this time.”

Thanks for the laugh, Eric. That’s some funny stuff. We’ve been hearing the same nonsense for decades now, while weather here in the United States has improved over the past century.

Regards,
Bob

Editor
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 29, 2021 2:29 pm

But you have to admit, Eric, it’s good for a laugh.

Have fun,
Bob

alastair gray
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 29, 2021 2:54 pm

Go to your Bible Eric and read about the Tower of Babel. We recreated it in the 20th century with Energy, Capitalist Finance, Internet and Communications. And God saw it and saw it was not good (for her) and caused us all to go mad and turned every man against his neighbour that never again should we threaten to become gods ourselves. Tragedy is this nonsense will crash civilisation, and I think you only get one shot at building advanced civilisation because this time round we used up all our easily accessible energy. Enjoy the coming Dark Age

Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 29, 2021 3:45 pm

Nah, not happening. Paging Middleton….

Rory Forbes
Reply to  alastair gray
July 29, 2021 8:22 pm

Every civilization in human history was an “advanced civilization”. When flint and or obsidian were the industry standard for edged tool technology sources diminished and supplies were often traded from half a continent distances. The same for all commodities … tin and copper for bronze, alum for fulling and dying. People predicted that gold and silver would run out and when whale oil was the ne plus ultra of lighting and lubrication, whales nearly went extinct.

Humans have always found a way to make each civilization the zenith of human possibility.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Rory Forbes
July 29, 2021 11:18 pm

Fossil Fuels, the saviour of Whales, hoorah!!!

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Alan the Brit
July 29, 2021 11:52 pm

Fossil Fuels, the saviour of Whales, hoorah!!!

That and a whole lot more besides. I’ll be much happier when we won’t have to burn them for their energy, but that time hasn’t arrive yet. There’s still a good supply until that day comes.

Alastair gray
Reply to  Rory Forbes
July 30, 2021 12:03 am

its the easy stuff that you need to find on your doorstep that will be lacking. I am a petroleum geophysicist and doubt oilfield recharge on decadal or even centennial scale also for example I wouldn’t like to look for tin in cornwall or iron sands in Lincolnshire. Our ancestors had it all

Robertvd
Reply to  alastair gray
July 30, 2021 3:07 am

Civilization only progressed when energy became more available to more people and therefore cheaper. It is unbelievable how much energy is misused to generate less efficient and much more expensive energy. That would never have happened in a capitalist society.

Lmacgar
Reply to  alastair gray
July 30, 2021 11:35 am

Do you think Stone Age ended because lack of stones?

Abolition Man
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 29, 2021 5:27 pm

Eric,
Biggest mass psychosis evah! Historians will look back and wonder how so many could be fooled for so long!
The discussion will be about who is most to blame; the media that lied so boldly, the educators who threw out truth for partisan and ideological reasons, or the scientists that traded integrity for grants and salaries?
No one expects politicians to have honesty or integrity; the exceptions prove the rule!

Scissor
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
July 29, 2021 5:40 pm

Look at Fig 1 p., “Governments that have declared a climate emergency” for a laugh. I could counter and envision an exponential plot of “Cumulative Lies told by Government Officials.”

The CO2 concentration curve (Fig 2 a) is not very similar to CO2 emissions (Fig 1 k).

Pamela Matlack-Klein
July 29, 2021 2:17 pm

The fun never stops, does it? It has been quiet in the Atlantic so far but we are approaching the traditionally worst part of the hurricane season, August thru October, so anything could happen. I lived in Ft. Lauderdale mid-70s thru mid-80s, a time of zero hurricanes. Every year we would hear about how this year will be the big one….

Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
July 29, 2021 2:57 pm

There was a Florida hurricane a few years back and a photo of some guy’s beach house that was almost unscathed surrounded by rubble. At the time there was an interview, he said he asked to contractor to build a hurricane proof house.

Since then not a peep about what those measures were or any news about coastal municipalities enacting local building codes to reflect those measures.

After a very short search it was hurricane Michael and there’s lots to find. Here’s a FOX story on it.

Here’s a Google search on ‘Simpson hurricane clip” that were used through out the house. At less than $2.00 a copy makes one wonder why their use isn’t more prevalent.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Steve Case
July 29, 2021 5:33 pm

In Australia, all new builds in cyclone-prone areas have to be cyclone-proof. We get quite a few here in the tropics. There is often a lot of damage, but I’ve never seen houses destroyed. I may just not have seen them, of course.

Grumpy Bill
Reply to  Steve Case
July 29, 2021 5:40 pm

Simpson ties are somewhat prevalent in Western PA where the closest we get to hurricanes is a lot of rain when/if the remnants stall over us.

garboard
Reply to  Steve Case
July 29, 2021 6:47 pm

Bermuda also builds hurricane proof houses . you never see a house in Bermuda with its roof blown away after hurricane

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  Steve Case
July 29, 2021 9:55 pm

I’m building a greenhouse (wooden structure; studs 4 ft. apart; walls & ceiling polycarbonate). Simpson ties are used throughout to ensure structural integrity in the face of 85 mph gusts that we get in Southeast Washington State every decade or so.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Steve Case
July 30, 2021 9:32 am

They should be specifying steel reinforced concrete for Florida housing, inclusive of walls, floors and roofs – and elevate them to avoid flooding issues. Build ’em like bomb shelters and keep them above the flood waters and then you won’t even need evacuations – just put down the storm shutters, fire up the generators and shelter in place.

They’ll whine about how “expensive” it is, but compare the cost with rebuilding the rubble every time a big storm comes through, and it starts looking cheap by comparison.

alloytoo
July 29, 2021 2:24 pm
H. D. Hoese
Reply to  alloytoo
July 29, 2021 5:04 pm

BIOSCIENCE has long joined the “crying wolf” society, which obscures where the cliff edge is. Tipping points are just another faddish term juveniles can’t leave behind. There are abrupt places, physical factors like this make more sense, a tipping point where the tidal prism does not overcome other factors. Carr-Betts, et al., 2012. Tidal inlet morphology classification and empirical determination of seaward and down-drift extents of tidal inlets. Journal of Coastal Research. 28(3):547-556. https://doi.org/10.2112/JCOASTRES-D-11-00124.1

H. D. Hoese
Reply to  H. D. Hoese
July 29, 2021 5:34 pm

As an example BIOSCIENCE highlighted this article.
  How We Continue to Perpetuate the Attitude of Human Superiority in Environmental Science and Management—and What We Can Do about It 
Earth Abundant : Toward an Ecological Civilization. Crist, Eileen. University of Chicago Press. 2019. 288. pp., illus., $35.00. (ISBN: 9780226596808 paper).
https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/advance-article/doi/10.1093/biosci/biab076/6322305?searchresult=1

Sounds like “Critical Race Theory.” From the article-“The books ends with a powerful and poignant message. As Crist writes, “Civilization, as we know it, rests squarely on the domination of nature… Domination is not a contingent aspect, a correctable defect, or an unfortunate side effect of civilization, but constitutional to its very character.” But we choose these beliefs, and we can (and better) choose others. As Christ puts it, “Civilization does not need to be saved, but reinvented.”  A few hours in a Louisiana marsh might change some minds.

July 29, 2021 2:25 pm

Investments in padded cells for these people would be less expensive than the stooopid-shit solutions that they can’t even define properly. Think of the additional benefits too.

Abolition Man
Reply to  philincalifornia
July 29, 2021 5:31 pm

Forced colonization of Antarctica would be more apropos! Even let them have the peninsula where it is warming SO rapidly!

Richard Page
July 29, 2021 2:29 pm

So 14,000 ‘world scientists’ out of over 7.8m full time scientists in the world is less than 0.18%. Yawn – wake me up when it gets up to 97% please.

alastair gray
Reply to  Richard Page
July 29, 2021 3:01 pm

Didnt we have 30,000 contrarian scientists a few years back saying ITS ALL BOLLOCKS. But of course they were all Exxon shills unlike the paragons of planetary wisdom that signed this one. Did you sign too Griff?

Richard Page
Reply to  alastair gray
July 29, 2021 3:59 pm

Yeah, given the eminent people that have put their name to statements like these, both for and against, we need some sort of exchange rate mechanism to evaluate their value. 1 NASA Astronaut = how many climate activists? It’s probably easier with academics once you’ve worked out the degree/masters/PhD ratio.

Richard Page
Reply to  Richard Page
July 29, 2021 3:12 pm

However, I do believe 14,000 is probably about the right number for climate scientists attending the latest COP junkets (number of actual delegates are almost double this but the rest are political hacks).

Rich Davis
Reply to  Richard Page
July 29, 2021 3:56 pm

Don’t forget the whores (oops, sex workers)

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Rich Davis
July 29, 2021 9:56 pm

COPulatory Contractors?

Dave Fair
Reply to  Richard Page
July 29, 2021 6:41 pm

NGOs outnumbered delegates 2 to 1.

Rick C
Reply to  Richard Page
July 29, 2021 4:54 pm

To paraphrase Albert E.: “Why 14,000, if they had any real evidence all it would take is one.”

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Richard Page
July 30, 2021 9:35 am

Wake me up when there’s not ONE scientist with a better argument than theirs. Because that’s all it takes.

July 29, 2021 2:34 pm

Ja. Ja. It is going to get cooler.

July 29, 2021 2:35 pm

Anyone who signs a declaration warning about CO2-induced climate tipping points is ipso facto not a scientist.

No one with any scientific integrity would sign on to such blarney.

Editor
Reply to  Pat Frank
July 29, 2021 3:04 pm

Pat Frank, you wrote, “Anyone who signs a declaration warning about CO2-induced climate tipping points is ipso facto not a scientist.”

Agreed. But let’s look back a little in time: The vast majority of climate research stopped being scientific back in the late 1980s after the UN founded the IPCC to support political agendas and the research funding was steered in that direction. Since that time, researchers who support nonsense like this are nothing more than paid propagandists.

Regards,
Bob

Reply to  Bob Tisdale
July 29, 2021 10:01 pm

I’m totally with you on that, Bob. The betrayal of the scientific establishment could not be more complete.

John Larson
Reply to  Pat Frank
July 30, 2021 12:57 am

No doubt you meant to say: The betrayal BY the scientific establishment could not be more complete . . but that does make things a bit too clear for comfort, no doubt.

Reply to  John Larson
July 30, 2021 3:29 pm

I meant exactly the meaning you took, John. “Of” in that case indicated apposition.

Reply to  Pat Frank
July 29, 2021 4:45 pm

Make sure to keep a copy of their names for an ‘attribution’ study.

Waza
July 29, 2021 2:36 pm

I’m not into hit lists, but seeing they created it, can I have a copy.

Is there a link to the actual 14,000 believers.
I specifically want to know who they are in my home town.
Thanks in advance.

waza
Reply to  Waza
July 29, 2021 6:07 pm

Ok – I found the list. It is in the supplementary section of the paper.
A quick search of just the “As” and “Bs” show 75 Australian “scientists” of which only two can be considered climate scientists.
The biggest group are ecologists.

July 29, 2021 2:37 pm

Yeah but now the Globalists have the COVID pandemic controls as a template to use to enact control mandates related to the wholly manufactured climate “crisis.”

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 29, 2021 2:46 pm

Here in the US, the once apolitcal CDC has decided that science is whatever they say it is regarding the utility of face masks, as response to political controls from the WH and Democrat-aligned interest. Those “masks” used for/by 99% of the population are cheap surgical masks or cloth, and that somehow satisfies the scientific criteria, even though everyone is the science community acknowledges that such masks are useless. It’s simply performance theater by once assumed “science” authorities.

Junk science has come to the CDC, and CDC Director Dr Wallensky is just following political orders from the WH and the American Federation of Teachers.

This is exactly what has happened to climate science as it fell into the realm of junk science via attribution studies using hand-tuned models. Junk science surrounds us now where it collides with public policy.

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Tom in Florida
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 29, 2021 3:18 pm

Speaking of masks, you would think that by now there would be a minimum standard of acceptable mask (level 2 hygiene mask at the least), that the government would have produced millions and millions of them and provided them free to everyone so they can be disposed of daily. Because they did not do this, you can take the mandate and shove it.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 29, 2021 10:10 pm

Everyone buying masks helps to support “the recovery” of general commerce.

Robertvd
Reply to  AndyHce
July 30, 2021 2:00 pm

What Recovery. Printing Dollars is mortal for general commerce. It will kill all savings and makes everything more expensive (in Dollars).

Reply to  Robertvd
July 31, 2021 12:19 pm

It is just like EVERYONE being in the window repair business, don’t you know?

Robertvd
Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 30, 2021 1:55 pm

Nothing from Government is Free. And why would you want to grow Government even Bigger ? Government can NEVER provide what is needed only the free market.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 29, 2021 11:39 pm

And they contradict themselves :

In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks.”

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

And the WHO :
“Ten RCTs were included in meta-analysis, and there was no evidence that face masks are effective in reducing transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.”

https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/329439/WHO-WHE-IHM-GIP-2019.1-eng.pdf?ua=1

Reply to  Petit_Barde
July 31, 2021 12:17 pm

There have been a number of published studies since the current nonsense started that came to the same conclusion: mask wearing by the general population makes no difference in transmission.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 30, 2021 1:40 am

That’s a great cartoom. Plaster it all over Instagram.

Robertvd
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 30, 2021 1:41 pm

WH and Demorats are just puppets like most politicians red or bleu. Following orders from those who can print all it needs to corrupt the system and are above the law. Those are the wizards behind the curtain.


Ron Long
July 29, 2021 2:38 pm

So, if we are at a tipping point, can we assume the sea level will shoot up to 50 meters higher than current? That’s the benchmark for the last real hothouse earth, and the dinosaurs loved it.

Mark E Shulgasser
July 29, 2021 2:39 pm

We are presented with an interesting and important variant of the trolley problem (of which there are many. For instance, the hurtling trolley will either kill one pregnant young woman or 2 elderly women? one brilliant PhD candidate or 5 prisoners . . .) Is it right to impair the lives of an indeterminate number of living people in order to save the lives of an indeterminate number of unborn people? Etc.

Reply to  Mark E Shulgasser
July 29, 2021 10:11 pm

Without a current population, there is no future population.

Mr.
July 29, 2021 2:40 pm

I can remember when a “tipping point” was a unit of success in our local newspaper’s weekly horseraces or football matches winners forecasting contests.

Those tipping points however could be empirically proven to get you a prize on Monday morning, or not.

In contrast, climate tipping points never never seem to eventuate in any kind of results at all.

What a gyp!

Reply to  Mr.
July 29, 2021 2:59 pm

Tipping Point, good name for a horse.

Mr.
Reply to  Steve Case
July 29, 2021 3:38 pm

The name would best suit one of those fake ponies that go around on a carousel at Coney Island.
It comes around at predictably regular intervals, wafting up & down, going nowhere really, and usually in the company of a spoiled brat or two.
Sound familiar?

Reply to  Steve Case
July 29, 2021 3:51 pm

Reminds me of the manure cart in back to the future

Thomas Gasloli
July 29, 2021 2:42 pm

What science have any of these people actually done? Getting a PhD in a pseudoscience and jetting around the world to conferences isn’t actually science.

alastair gray
July 29, 2021 2:42 pm

Orchestrated Stuff. In addition to 14,000 chanting morons all wailing from the same minaret, The BBC has been today blasting unlimited climate propaganda all day. David King Former Gubmint Scientific advisor when we signed the monstrous Climate Change Act and now “Climate Crisis Advisory Group” Chair vents eco-spleen and wants to freeze the Arctic cos its worse than we thought.
Some vague parliamentary committee on infrastructure wants to get “Carbon” out of the atmosphere and biomass burning and sequestration of the “carbon” thereby produced is teh answer of choice , oh and lots of windmills.

And some eco-loon Lady from the Met Office telling us that 2020 was the hottest ,coldest , warnmest, Floodiest, Draughtiest yet in places Coldest year EVVAH!! and then all evening a phun phone-in to that tw*t Harrabin about reducing cpersonal carbonm foodtprint .

The Climate Taliban are on the march, presumeably to Glasgow Lets head them off at the Khyber Pass.

Reply to  alastair gray
July 29, 2021 4:55 pm

Unfortunately, it’s going to have to be Gretna Green, but you could always use the secret weapon right there on the border. Make them eat haggis in order to enter.

Alastair gray
Reply to  philincalifornia
July 30, 2021 12:08 am

Nah Greta Green you mean. Haggis is too good for Eco-Taliban loons. Contains meat from methane farting sheep an so is Harram

Robber
July 29, 2021 2:54 pm

Emergency: A serious situation or occurrence that happens unexpectedly and demands immediate action.
Therefore we can’t wait until 2030 or 2050 surely.
Quick, dial 911 or 000 immediately and demand action.
So what are the options for immediate actions?

  1. Shutdown all coal-fired stations immediately
  2. Stop all oil-based transport immediately
  3. Trigger at least two major volcanoes by nuclear explosions
  4. Get our your aerosol cans and start spraying

Fixed yet?

John
July 29, 2021 2:55 pm

Just researchers lining up at the trough for government spending on climate change.

Wade
July 29, 2021 2:55 pm

This is two logical fallacies: Appeal to authority and argumentum ad populum.

Just because someone claims to be or viewed as an expert does not make what they say true. The experts once told us plate tectonics was wrong. Experts tend to be wrong a lot because they are married to an idea and are so in love with it that no evidence would convince them of the truth. This marriage could be because of money, power, or because the person has a strong emotional attachment to the idea.

As Albert Einstein said, paraphrasing: “Why 14,000? If they were right only 1 would be needed.” Truth is not defined by how many people agree. If 7 billion people said something was true, that would not make it true.

How do I know something is true? Because the truth can survive any assault thrown against it whereas the lie has to be protected in a powerful fortress of censorship. If debate is not allowed, you should be almost certain it is a lie.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Wade
July 30, 2021 7:21 am

Feynman: being a scientist is taking the position that the experts are wrong.

Me: the difference between a scientist and an expert is that the scientist is fully aware of what he/she doesn’t know.

rbabcock
July 29, 2021 2:59 pm

Ask Brazil and Argentina about global warming. They are having the worst cold weather since 1955 in some areas including killing a lot of the coffee and other crops.

Reply to  rbabcock
July 29, 2021 3:54 pm

Thats why they renamed it climate change

Curious George
Reply to  Hans Erren
July 29, 2021 4:40 pm

That tune plays incessantly: spring, summer, fall, winter, …

Scissor
Reply to  rbabcock
July 29, 2021 4:36 pm

Breakfast won’t be the same but probably not the tipping point they imagined.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  rbabcock
July 29, 2021 11:45 pm

See also Antarctica, 2 degrees C COOLER over the last 40 years.

Russell Johnson
July 29, 2021 3:01 pm

100% of the climate change catastrophe narrative is 100% crap. No matter how many scientists are calling for a tipping point it’s all just bullshit nobody really knows. This originally was a set up by the UN to destroyThe economy of the United States. Obama fell for it as do most liberals, it’s just in their nature to invite totalitarianism as a form of government globally. That is the definition of globalism totalitarianism Globally !!!!!!!!!. They are simply using climate change as a vehicle for their totalitarian ends.

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