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Media Scrambles to Deny Climate Revolutionaries Staged an Insurrection

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The other day WUWT published a satirical piece, suggesting self described climate revolutionaries who sat on their butts in front of the White House and demanded money were an “insurrection”. We seem to have ruffled a few feathers.

Deniers Who Instigated, Praised Jan 6. Violence Now Calling Peaceful Sunrise Protest An Insurrection

Jun 30, 2021 11:10pm AEST 
by ClimateDenierRoundup, Community

On January 6th, 2021, thousands of Trump supporters violently stormed the US Capitol building with the intent to disrupt a democratically determined succession of power and murder the vice president and various other congresspeople. They failed, but their impotent rage nevertheless caused at least five deaths, including of Capitol police. 

Fast forward to June 28th. Hundreds of young people held a sit-in around the White House, blocking entrances to demand the infrastructure bill fully fund the Civilian Climate Corps to create jobs addressing the climate crisis. Some protestors were arrested, but unlike Jan 6, no police officers were beaten by protesters, no windows were smashed, and no one was brandishing a Confederate or Nazi flag. 

But to climate deniers – to whom the events in January were defensible, even necessary – the youths’ peaceful protest was basically a dangerous riot . “Sounds like an insurrection!” blared a headline on Marc Morano’s Climate Depot, where he didn’t even attempt to make an argument that the two events were actually similar in any way. (Maybe Marc meant this to be praise? After all, he strongly supported the violence at the Capitol as it unfolded, and called for similar events across the country.) 

Over at Watts Up With That, apparently Willie Soon, disgraced denier who writes climate denial reports for fossil fuel money, wondered if it’s “only an ‘insurrection’ when the protestors support [one-term, twice-impeached former] President Trump?” 

Read more: https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/6/30/2037735/-Deniers-Who-Instigated-Praised-Jan-6-Violence-Now-Calling-Peaceful-Sunrise-Protest-An-Insurrection

Real insurrections are people armed with guns and bombs, who take over the local radio station and declare martial law, and force politicians to read political statements. Anyone who attempted something that stupid in the USA would very quickly discover there are a lot of people on both sides of the aisle, who believe in the Constitution.

Unarmed people who shout a lot and demand change are a political protest.

A group of people who call themselves climate revolutionaries, but whose idea of a revolution is to sit on their butts in front of the White House and demand money, are pathetic and funny, not revolutionary.

But those “climate revolutionaries” have a constitutionally guaranteed right to assemble peacefully and make public fools of themselves. Just as everyone else has a constitutionally protected right to point and laugh.

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Mr.
June 30, 2021 10:30 pm

So now they want a p1ssing contest over whose “insurrection” is legit, and whose isn’t.
You can’t make this sh1t up.

(Or as Obarmy would say – “yes we can!”)

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Doonman
June 30, 2021 10:37 pm

Yeah, its the lawfully peaceful part that is always at issue.When you blockcade others going about their daily business, thats no longer peaceful. It’s a forcing against the guaranteed free will of free persons to do as they choose. I don’t care who you are or what your issue may be. That is not protected by free speech rights or any other legal doctrine.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Doonman
June 30, 2021 10:51 pm

Freedom of Speech does not mean freedom from responsibility.

You say it, you own it.

Freedom of Speech simply allows you right to speak. The quality of what you say is still up for judgement, AND, having freedom to speak does not overrule the Freedom Not To Listen.

Redge
Reply to  Doonman
June 30, 2021 11:36 pm

Here in the UK, there are numerous protests against the governments wish to prevent protesters from disrupting the lives of the vast majority

They will still be allowed to protest but blocking main roads by stapling your nipples to the tarmac won’t be allowed – thank fully

fretslider
Reply to  Redge
July 1, 2021 1:56 am

BLM XR etc protests were allowed

Anti-lockdown protests were not

Paul
Reply to  Redge
July 1, 2021 2:56 am

Ouch!!

Rich Davis
Reply to  Redge
July 2, 2021 4:13 am

Rip them loose? Good plan. But make them repair the road and remove the nipple remnants that night once the traffic dies down.

AndyHce
Reply to  Doonman
July 1, 2021 11:17 am

“not protected by free speech rights or any other legal doctrine”
While that might be a good idea it certainly isn’t true in this country. Consider union strikes and all the violance against strike breakers, or even uninvolved people attempting to go about thier own business, that is regularly allowed by the courts.

Reply to  AndyHce
July 1, 2021 9:22 pm

<blockquote>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.</blockquote>

Dang this interface. The last semicolon is SUPPOSED to be underlined – as the bolded part is a singular and separate part of the Amendment. The right guaranteed is to peaceably assemble to petition the GOVERNMENT for redress. Not to petition or coerce any private entity.

Now, unions do have the right to assemble and picket a private entity – but that is by statute, not Constitutional law. (US, that is – some States have enshrined the right into their Constitutions, most have not.)

Edit: I give up. You know what I mean by “<blockquote>.”

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Rich Davis
Reply to  Writing Observer
July 2, 2021 4:20 am

Fortunately the mostly “conservative” justices have discovered an emanating penumbra that makes looting, arson, and murder fit into the “mostly-peaceably assemble” clause.

Craig from Oz
June 30, 2021 10:46 pm

It was only a “Not Insurrection” due to brave President Biden and his reform on private ownership of F-15s.

Only by keeping these deadly ‘Assault Style’ aircraft off of the American streets has democracy in the USA been preserved.

Now all they have to do is make sure no one illegally purchases any nukes from the Iranians.

Honest.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Craig from Oz
July 2, 2021 4:30 am

Cmon man! I mean it!

I’m never gonna allow the Iranians to get a nuclear bomb on my watch. That’s what they told me to say and apparently I’m stickin’ with it.

Now where did I put that watch anyway? If I don’t keep an eye on it, those pesky towel heads’ll get a bomb on it after all.

Oh, wait… the voices are saying that towel head is no longer OK to say. You know the thing.

Streetcred
June 30, 2021 10:50 pm

Real insurrections are people armed with guns and bombs, who take over the local radio station and declare martial law, and force politicians to read political statements.

Like their brethren, ANTIFA, taking over Portland and declaring their little administrative caliphate.

If these idiots weren’t so pathetic, they’d be laughable.

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June 30, 2021 11:31 pm

“thousands of Trump supporters violently stormed”

Absolutely zero evidence. Which is exactly why they won’t release the footage.

“with the intent to disrupt a democratically determined succession of power”

That would’ve only occur on the 20th.

“murder the vice president and various other congresspeople.”

With what, their bare hands? What disgusting drivel.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 1, 2021 8:36 pm

Spamming your NY Slimes link won’t help its or your credibility.

Bill Powers
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 2, 2021 8:02 am

That is like Putin telling you that the Russian Politburo is open and honest because Pravda said it is so and posting a link to their webpage, content managed by the KGB.

June 30, 2021 11:44 pm

Our consitution talks about Competing Electors. The capitol hill protestors were trying to remind congress NOT TO IGNORE THE CONSTITUTION.

Pence lied through his teeth when he said the constitution doesn’t allow him to do what it says you can do, and was done in 1876 and 1960.

Only those who disregard our laws would dare call one-six an insurrection.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Zoe Phin
July 1, 2021 12:23 am

exactly where? The phrase “competing electors” occurs nowhere in the US constitution nor in any of the amendments. Pence acted according to the constitution and certified the votes correctly.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 1, 2021 2:07 am

So you’re saying 1876 and 1960 didn’t happen?
There were no dueling electors in those years? Funny. History says otherwise.

Jeffery P
Reply to  Zoe Phin
July 1, 2021 6:40 am

Just because something happened, doesn’t mean it was constitutional. It may have been permitted, the courts may have look the other way, or the courts may or may not have upheld it. Many court decisions arguably violate constitution.

None of that is specific to 1876 and 1960.

John Endicott
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 1, 2021 3:06 am

The phrases “abortion” and “right to choose” appear nowhere in the US constitution nor any of the amendments either. Yet there’s a good many who insist those concepts are part of the constitution and many judges who will declare unconstitutional any attempt at restricting those things which appear nowhere in the US constitution or any of the amendments.

Reply to  John Endicott
July 1, 2021 4:10 am

Abortion Law had nothing to do with constitutionality, and everything to do with the Population Bomb scare. Activist judges just know “better”.

hiskorr
Reply to  John Endicott
July 1, 2021 4:30 am

Nor does the word “education”!

niceguy
Reply to  John Endicott
July 1, 2021 3:24 pm

The same people who can detect a “right to choose” in the Bill of Rights usually don’t have any issue with mandatory vaccines, not even for controversial ones, not even for ones against STDs, not even for preteens or babies.

John Endicott
Reply to  niceguy
July 2, 2021 3:26 am

in other words It’s “your body, your choice” only when it’s an abortion you seek. If it wasn’t for double standards, leftist would have no standards at all

Steven Curtis Lohr
Reply to  John Endicott
July 3, 2021 12:49 pm

In “Newspeak” it is called “Blackwhite”. Some elements of 1984 are so lucid it’s frightening.

Steve Z
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 1, 2021 10:18 am

As of January 6, 2021, state legislatures in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, and Pennsylvania were already acting to de-certify the Biden electors from those states (a total of 63) until the claims of election fraud could be investigated. Those electors had been certified by either Governors or Secretaries of State of the states in question, but the Constitution states that “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress”. (Article II, Section 1).

Then-Vice-President Pence could have stated truthfully and constitutionally on January 6 that the state legislatures of AZ, GA, MI, and PA had not yet determined which candidate (Biden or Trump) was entitled to the electors of those states, so that they should not be credited to either candidate. In that case, Biden would have had 243 electoral votes and Trump 232 (from the states not in dispute), so that neither candidate would have the required 270 electoral votes, and could be declared President.

If the four disputed states could not be resolved by January 20, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would have become acting President until the dispute could be resolved, or else the President could be elected by the House of Representatives where each state delegation would have one vote, according to the 12th Amendment.

In the current House of Representatives, Republicans have the majority in 27 states, Democrats have the majority in 20 states, and three states (MI, MN, and PA) have equal numbers of Republicans and Democrats. If the election had gone to the House of Representatives according to the 12th Amendment, and each state voted along party lines, Trump would have been elected President. This procedure was also used in 1824 and 1876.

Instead of following the Constitution and the 12th Amendment, Pence decided to follow a law passed by Congress called the Electoral Count Act, which states that if at least one Representative and one Senator objects to the certification of electors from a state, then both chambers have two hours to debate, then vote on which candidate’s electors are valid for that state. The two chambers were in the process of debating Arizona’s electors (the first alphabetically of the disputed states), when the rioters disrupted the process.

The Electoral Count Act is a law passed by Congress, but not a Constitutional Amendment, so it should not supersede the Constitution and the 12th Amendment. The issue becomes whether electors certified by a state executive (Governor or Secretary of State) are valid if the majority of the state Legislature disagrees, that the election was not conducted according the laws that it voted prior to the election.

This issue has never been put to the test, since there has never been a Presidential election where a state legislature and state executive have disagreed as to who won the election in a state, and this year four states had such a disagreement. While there was a lot of debate over who won Florida in 2000 (Bush vs. Gore), if the issue had gone to the Florida State Legislature, where Republicans controlled both houses, they would have certified the electors for Bush. Likewise, there was a dispute over the electors in Illinois in 1960 (Nixon vs. Kennedy), but Nixon declined to contest the election.

Pence decided not to test the issue on January 6, possibly to avoid being accused of partisanship, since he would have been re-elected Vice President had the 12th Amendment been invoked. But according to the Constitution, he could have tested it, and if there was a lawsuit by Democrats, it would have been decided by the Supreme Court.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Steve Z
July 1, 2021 1:21 pm

Thanks for those comments, Steve Z.

I’m wondering why the Republican legislators in those battleground States did not take it upon themselves to fix their election results? They have the final say on who the State electors will be, but they took no actions to rectify the situation that occurred after Nov. 3, 2020.

Now they are taking action by auditing the votes of Nov. 2020. A little late, but better late than never.

Ruleo
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 1, 2021 2:22 pm

There are no two parties. It’s all Uniparty.

Earthling2
Reply to  Steve Z
July 1, 2021 1:43 pm

Good summary. That’s the way I saw it too, and VP Pence would have only been punting the issue up to SCOTUS, who then would have had a duty and responsibility to investigate and determine the validity of the 4 state legislatures whose certification process was in question. The fact that VP Pence refused to implement basic constitutional procedure makes him complicit in allowing all of the election irregularities that happened, to stand.

Reply to  Steve Z
July 2, 2021 8:10 am

Exactly. That was a great summary.

Alexy Scherbakoff
June 30, 2021 11:46 pm

I didn’t know that Daily Kos was a media outlet.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
July 1, 2021 2:06 am

Kos reporters seem to hang out in WUWT.

John Endicott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
July 1, 2021 3:07 am

They’re just jealous that WUWT does a better job than they do.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
July 1, 2021 1:26 pm

Yes, and Kos reporters seem to think that WUWT skeptics advocate violence.

I don’t recall anyone from here cheering on any violence on the part of Trump supporters. I do recall many people saying the people who broke into the Capitol Building should not have done so, and deserve to be punished if they broke the law.

But, of course, we can’t expect fairness from a Leftwing Propaganda outfit like Kos.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 1, 2021 4:59 pm

Yesterday “Reacher51” declared that Ashli Babbit deserved a Darwin award, then went on to state the same toward me.

Leftist love and compassion.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
July 1, 2021 7:39 pm

Yes, lefties are not very kind when their worldview is challenged.

I had a lefty friend who was a really good guy, but we couldn’t talk politics because he would always get mad, although he would never have thought of threatening me over politics. He hated Trump. But we got alone just fine other than politics.

Lefties lash out at critcism, sometimes violently. I think they get too emotionally invested in their delusions. Or rather, too invested in hanging on to their delusions. Flying off the handle is their way of not considering alternative ways of looking at things.

Reacher51
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
July 2, 2021 1:15 pm

A few things you may want to note:

  1. Nasty, I may be. But I am rather certainly not a Leftist. Nothing about this issue requires people to be on the left of the political spectrum, or to have any specific feelings about Joe Biden or Kamala Harris, for that matter. This is a simple question of reality, not politics. Believing in vague, bizarre, and ever changing election conspiracy theories for which there is no evidence does not make you a Rightist. It makes you a Moron. That is the correct tribe into which you fall.
  2. The exact same thing could be said about the people described in this article. Believing that the world is somehow going to end because of a small increase in atmospheric CO2, despite a near complete lack of evidence or reason that supports that belief, does not make a person a Leftist. It makes the person a Moron.
  3. Following points 1 and 2, you and the people blocking traffic at the White House are not really in different tribes, whatever you may think. You are in exactly the same Moron tribe. You simply don’t know it. Ironically, the fact that none of you seem able to recognize the actual tribe you’re in is itself a very large part of your membership in that particular tribe.
  4. Since reading comprehension is rather clearly not a strong suit for you, allow me to point out that I did not say the you deserved a Darwin Award. That would not even be possible, since you are still alive. What I said is that given your inability to grasp either reason or reality, I suspect that you may have a Darwin Award in your future. This is an observation, not a wish. What I wished for you, or at least strongly recommended for you to do, is to pull your head out of your rear, examine all evidence, apply a bit of critical thinking, and rejoin reality. Were you to do that, unlikely as it may be, you will be far less likely to end your days with a posthumous Darwin Award. If you’re gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough, as the song says. But there is no real reason why you gotta be dumb in the first place, assuming you’re capable of more.
  5. In the same vein as point 4, if Ashli Babbit had taken a moment to reflect on the loud angry mob behind her, the fact that she was crawling through a locked door that separated her and the mob from the entire United States legislative branch, and the policeman on the other side of the door pointing a gun at her face, and if she were able to put 2 and 2 together, then maybe she would have turned around and still been alive today to face Federal charges. Unfortunately, it is now too late for her. You, on the other hand, could still pull your head out, if you are capable doing so.
Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Reacher51
July 2, 2021 2:42 pm

More on topic, let’s take the blue litmus test:

How much of your payday are you willing to sacrifice for the democrats green new deal?

10%?
20%?
40%?
80%?

Reacher51
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
July 2, 2021 3:20 pm

See point #1 above. The test you should be worried about is your GED.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Reacher51
July 2, 2021 5:51 pm

Thanks, you just revealed yourself.

TonyG
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 2, 2021 8:30 am

Kos reporters (and all the rest) take the position that if you don’t fully and immediately condemn anyone who went to DC or even watched it on TV as a bunch of violent terrorists, then you, too are a violent terrorist.

It’s been pretty amazing seeing how absolutist the left has become. NO room for ANY nuance or disagreement about ANYTHING. I remember a time this wasn’t the case.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  TonyG
July 2, 2021 2:46 pm

A bit over a year ago, just suggesting that the WuhanFlu came out of the lab got you banned by F_U_berg and Rasputin. Today its in the mainstream news!

A year from now, will the government’s involvement in the Jan. 6 mess similarly rise?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  TonyG
July 3, 2021 4:59 am

Yes, it’s war out there now between the Left and the Right.

The Left has been at war with Truth, Justice, and the American Way for decades. The Right is just now starting to mobilize to fight back.

Better late than never.

Vincent Causey
June 30, 2021 11:46 pm

No police were killed at the Capitol building. The “victim” was a cop who was actually at the capitol building on the same day, but apparently died of a heart attack – at the precinct the following day. Maybe the shock of seeing “buffalo man” gave him a heart attack a day later.

But honestly, you can’t read more than a sentence or two of the article before you encounter spin of the most extreme kind. I don’t think Morano’s words were any worse or more dishonest than these -at least they don’t contain untruths, merely opinion.

Darrin
Reply to  Vincent Causey
July 1, 2021 10:21 am

Only one person was killed, they were shot by someone official but they wont tell us who. The other 4 deaths were medical emergencies in which the person passed away. Lies politicians tell and media supports…

niceguy
Reply to  Vincent Causey
July 1, 2021 3:13 pm

Maybe the shock of seeing “buffalo man” gave him a heart attack a day later.

From no less than WP:

Angeli had a profile on the Backstage website seeking work as an actor.

Chaswarnertoo
July 1, 2021 12:19 am

That’s different, when the leftards do it….

Abolition Man
July 1, 2021 12:51 am

They found just as many rifles, guns and explosives as they did on 1/6/21!
The missing ingredient seems to be FIB informants and undercover human assets! Maybe there actually IS a limit to how low the Feebs will go!

Reacher51
Reply to  Abolition Man
July 1, 2021 11:36 am

You may note that at least 4 people have been charged by the Feds for carrying firearms.

Several dozen have been charged with carrying a dangerous weapon.

This is all from just the number of people they have managed to catch so far. All information is publicly available.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

Mr.
Reply to  Reacher51
July 1, 2021 12:28 pm

All information is publicly available.

Really?

So who shot and k1lled Ashli Babbitt?

Reacher51
Reply to  Mr.
July 2, 2021 1:20 pm
  1. Yes, really.
  2. A Capitol Policeman, who is not facing federal charges, because his job was to be armed and to protect the Capitol, and the justice department investigated and found that his actions were reasonable given the circumstances.
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Mr.
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
July 2, 2021 8:29 pm

Is this what all the is secrecy about?

A black cop shot Babbitt so the whole episode has to be covered up?

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Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Reacher51
July 1, 2021 12:38 pm

Are any of them your Antifa pals?

Reacher51
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
July 2, 2021 1:21 pm

See my reply above regarding tribalism and your incorrect assumptions about where both you and I stand.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Reacher51
July 2, 2021 2:47 pm

Request DENIED.

niceguy
Reply to  Reacher51
July 1, 2021 3:05 pm

So many people, so few weapons. Maybe the US does not have a gun problem.

Rud Istvan
July 1, 2021 1:36 am

If that is all they have, we are slowly winning.
They have bad science (Mann), decades of failed predictions, and unworkable renewables.
We have greening, falsified models, and low (1.7C IMO) observational ECS.
But for waning political inertia, no contest.
Now we just need to crash test a few of the volunteer GND crash test dummies.

a happy little debunker
July 1, 2021 1:42 am

 “thousands of Trump supporters violently stormed the US Capitol building” 

Mendacious hyperbole – it was hundreds, not thousands & very few of those ‘hundreds’ exhibited any anger at all…

This ‘community’ knows this, but still has to lie to their readership
It is almost as if preserving the narrative is more important than the facts.
Which seems to be a pattern amongst the warmistas…

Derg
Reply to  a happy little debunker
July 1, 2021 3:02 am

I recently heard a clip of Biden refer to Jan 6th as the time when they stormed the Capital and K1LLED a police officer. For the left, facts don’t matter as long as it feels right to what they hear. The reason the major media doesn’t call him out for lying is because they feel Biden is right.

George Daddis
Reply to  Derg
July 1, 2021 5:39 am

Agreed.
In addition to slandering Dr Soon, no one was killed by the protesters – Officer Sicknick died a day later of a stroke , 3 other protestors died of stroke or heat attack and Ashli Babbit was shot by an un named Federal officer.

Unarmed protesters were not about to murder the VP.

Cool-Engineer
Reply to  Derg
July 1, 2021 10:32 am

The reason the major media doesn’t call him out for lying is because they are owned by biden supporters. They just say what they’re paid to say.

MarkW
Reply to  a happy little debunker
July 1, 2021 9:09 am

Liberals lie, it’s what they do.

Two other recent big lies.

1) When Republicans voted against the $1.6T infrastructure bill, they voted to defund the police, so there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats on this issue.

Inside the bill, there was a few million dollars that weren’t dedicated to anything and could be spent at the discretion of the governors. Governors could have spent that money on the police. Thinking that any governor who is currently supporting the Defund the Police movement is going to spend any discretionary money on the police is so ludicrous that only a liberal could come up with it. Beyond that, none of Defund the Police mayors cut police funding due to a budget shortage.

2) Recently they have been saying that the collapse of the condo building in Miami is proof that the infrastructure bill is needed. Despite the fact that not one penny of the money in that bill is dedicated to building inspection or repair.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MarkW
July 1, 2021 1:41 pm

Nothing about funding any police was emphasized by the Democrats in that bill, other than they were mentioned as part of the Democrat effort to bail out the Blue States who were in near-bankruptcy, and they whined about the Bule States not being able to pay their first responders. The Democrats were interested in all the pork that was in the bill, and the pork is why the Repubicans voted against the bill.

Now the Democrats are taking political heat at the polls because of their “Defund the Police” movement, and so they are trying to deflect attention from themselves by claiming it is really the Republicans who are bad for police.

Nobody believes that.

The Republican Party is the Law and Order Party.

When the president’s spokesperson was asked yesterday to name one Republican who advocated defunding the police, she was unable to do so, and that is because there is no Republican who advocates against the police. Just the opposite.

Law Enforcement knows who their friends are. It’s not the radical Democrats.

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TonyG
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 2, 2021 8:32 am

“Nobody believes that.”

Sadly, Tom, far too many DO believe it.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  TonyG
July 3, 2021 5:01 am

I should have said nobody with any sense believes that. 🙂

fretslider
July 1, 2021 1:47 am

I’m always impressed by the polite and tolerant discourse of the ‘faithful’.

A.N. Heretic.

Peta of Newark
July 1, 2021 1:57 am

Methinks: The Lady Doth Protest Her Innocence a Little Too Strongly

ozspeaksup
July 1, 2021 2:28 am

they really love giving the boot to Willie Soon at every chance dont they?
he must be right;-) cos they get so attackmode about him every time they can

Tom Abbott
Reply to  griff
July 1, 2021 1:53 pm

Alarmists spend all their time attacking the character of skeptics. They have no evidence or facts to back up their Human-caused Climate Change claims, so they are reduced to character assasination.

Griff slips off into this character assasination mode occasionally. I recall he insulted Susan Crockford personally on one occasion because she wasn’t going along with his arctic delusion, and has never apologized for it. How about it, Griff? Isn’t it about time you apologized to Susan for the baseless attack you made on her?

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Ruleo
Reply to  griff
July 1, 2021 2:25 pm

You have to be paid to do this.

You could not possibly be doing this as a normal person.

Geoff Sherrington
July 1, 2021 2:40 am

To this observer and friends in distant Australia, the march on the government building in January seemed composed of two main groups, one being a majority of people with no interest in violence and another group being trained infiltrators bent on making the first group look wicked.
There were several scenes of first group people telling second group to stop harming window glass and other acts of damage, physical or emotional.
Maybe the USA media were censored more than Australia, but I do not think for a moment that the majority of peoptesters were involved in “..violently stormed the US Capitol building with the intent to disrupt a democratically determined succession of power and murder the vice president and various other congresspeople”.
Is this a fair view of you Americal people’s thoughts? Geoff S

Reacher51
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
July 1, 2021 7:11 am

Did the people with no interest in violence decide to follow the violent people into the building after the violent ones broke down doors and skirmished with police to gain entry? Why is that?

What have you observed from Australia that shows you that the violent group were “trained infiltrators bent on making the first group look wicked?” Is there a reason why the FBI on the ground in the US does not appear to have noticed the evidence that you are apparently able to observe from Australia?

Abolition Man
Reply to  Reacher51
July 1, 2021 8:33 am

In Australia there are still journalists that actually practice their profession! The US lapdog media only reports what their IC overlords tell them to!
Lots of info on Feebs being infiltrated into the three main groups from 1/6, and there are private videos that seem to show instigators in black bloc dress starting a lot of the damage! Some interesting questions to ponder:
1. Why did Pelosi turn down added security?
2. Why did Capitol Police act like greeters and open doors for protestors?
3. Why have thousands of hours of surveillance videos not been released?
More and more this looks like a false flag op instigated at the behest of the DOJ and FBI to play up the DemoKKKrat narrative that all Trump supporters are white supremecist domestic terrorists!

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Abolition Man
July 1, 2021 8:57 am

Exactly right, it was a Reichstag fire.

President Trump supposedly whipped the mob into a frenzy, which then went and assaulted the capitol building, according to the democrat House liars and the Marxstream Media.

Except that windows were already being broken before Trump even finished his speech; the FBI/ABC/XYZ agencies were trying to incite people to action before the sun even dawned on Jan. 6th.

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Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Reacher51
July 1, 2021 8:53 am

No Antifa/BLM at the capitol on Jan. 6th?

Capitol police did not lower the barricades, or hold the doors open for people to enter the building?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/watch-tucker-carlson-announces-whistleblower-confirmed-nsa-plotting-leak-info-get-show-pulled-off-air/

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MarkW
Reply to  Reacher51
July 1, 2021 9:11 am

Given the fact that FBI agitators helped to organize the march, it’s not all that surprising the FBI didn’t notice what others could see.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  MarkW
July 1, 2021 10:34 am

Bingo, and the Marxstream Media isn’t going to lift a microphone to investigate either.

Ruleo
Reply to  Reacher51
July 1, 2021 2:26 pm

You, like griff, have to be paid to do this.

No normal person can be so utterly wrong about everything and keep coming up with more lies.

Either you are mentally ill or paid.

Reacher51
Reply to  Ruleo
July 2, 2021 6:35 am

You got me, Ruleo. I confess! I am obviously being paid. Since you and your highly perspicacious fellow truth seekers above have me dead to rights, I will simply confess everything.

As you, Abolition Man, MarkW, and Monte Carlo have all so brilliantly sussed out (and as Geoff Sherrington and his observant Australian friends are oh-so close to realizing as well), there was a vile conspiracy cooked up some time ago between Nancy Pelosi, the FBI, and the Marxstream media to organize an attack on the US Congress in order to create a Reichstag fire-like incident that would be led by paid Antifa agents. This nefarious plot was cooked up to allow the Democrats, who had just finished winning the Presidency and both houses of Congress, to seize power. Sadly for them, however, real patriots like yourself have been able to see through their web of lies and the voluminous amount of security camera footage, body camera footage, police testimony, and basic common sense that would suggest otherwise. How did you do it?

Since all of that Marxist propaganda has obviously failed to fool you, I will admit that Nancy Pelosi and some FBI henchmen hired me personally to infiltrate WUWT and to spread vile lies indicating that the events of January 6th may somehow have happened exactly as they appeared. It has been a pretty good gig.

The plot itself was, I must say (even though you saw through it), also quite ingenious. In case you haven’t grasped exactly how deep this thing really went, consider the following-

Most of the people currently facing Federal charges for this incident (i.e. a bunch of FBI/Antifa/Pelosi planted infiltrators) were caught when they returned to homes around the country and proudly bragged about what they had done to friends and neighbors. This fact, in and of itself, shows how long Pelosi and the FBI must have plotted. Can you imagine how many years it took for Pelosi and the FBI to plant people in communities around America, establishing jobs and long term relationships, developing local reputations as semi-retarded cretins, and infiltrating groups like the Proud Boys without anyone knowing they were actually Antifa agents all along?

You can conclude from this that Pelosi and the FBI must have realized years ago that Donald Trump would one day become president, and that he would then later have an election stolen from him in a way that would leave behind no actual evidence that holds up under examination.

Their planted provocateurs had to wait years for these events to take place, so that they could finally organize a peaceful protest of patriots, only to then initiate violence, thereby tarnishing the good name of all the loyal patriots behind them, who understandably innocently followed behind through broken doors and windows to do a little sightseeing, petty theft, and vandalism of the nation’s Capitol.

Then the FBI/Antifi/Pelosi agents, still posing magnificently as village idiots, had to return to their local communities and brag openly about their crimes, only to have their appalled neighbors turn them in to the very same FBI that had planted them in the first place. Genius! I bet those Pelosi plants are chuckling it up with their FBI buddies right now, while the unredpilled sheep all think they’re actually in prison awaiting trial.

It amazes me to think that the FBI, Antifa, Nancy Pelosi, and the Marxstream media would have gotten away with it all too, if it were not for you meddling kids. Even more amazing that the Australians were able to nail this one as well from half a world away. The Pelosi/FBI plot was terribly and fiendishly clever, but not clever enough to fool you.

Thanks a lot for blowing a good deal for me as well. Now I’ll probably be stuck trying to pretend that the MyPillow guy doesn’t really have secret evidence of an international plot to steal the US election that he just hasn’t gotten around to revealing. I hope that job pays at least half as well as this gig, but it probably won’t, seeing as Pelosi and the FBI must now know that they have lost. I guess you simply can’t win them all.

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Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Reacher51
July 2, 2021 8:56 am

Free clue, LeftBoi, Pres. Trump offered National Guard presence in D.C. days prior to Jan. 6th, and Nutter Nanc declined.

Is this what you call an “insurrection”?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/breaking-huge-exclusive-168000-ballots-missing-chain-custody-cobb-county-ga/

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Reacher51
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
July 2, 2021 9:49 am

Free clue about what exactly? And when did I call something an “insurrection?”

Moreover, what is the purpose of the article you linked to below about unhappy Harris staffers. Does this now prove that she was actually part of the grand conspiracy to make election protesters look retarded? Was Kamala Harris a significant influence on you? I have a hard time following the threads.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Reacher51
July 2, 2021 11:34 am

I demand to be put higher on your list of HATE, #3 is completely UNACCEPTABLE.

Hope you like Cackling Kamala, she’s on deck when they finally put Creepy Dementia Joe out to pasture.

Hey! What happened to the laptop from heck? More photos now out that show the Big Guy lied Big Time when he claimed to nothing about the Little Guy’s corruption business.

Reacher51
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
July 2, 2021 1:28 pm

I have the laptop, Monte Carlo. It was a small part of my payment for infiltrating WUWT and denying the FBI/Pelosi/Antifa conspiracy. I use mainly to stare longingly at pictures of Kamala Harris. But someone of your obvious intellect probably knew all that already, right?

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Reacher51
July 2, 2021 2:49 pm

How big is your carbon footprint?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
July 1, 2021 2:11 pm

“Maybe the USA media were censored more than Australia, but I do not think for a moment that the majority of peoptesters were involved in “..violently stormed the US Capitol building with the intent to disrupt a democratically determined succession of power and murder the vice president and various other congresspeople”.
Is this a fair view of you Americal people’s thoughts?”

It’s a fair view. It’s the right view.

There were tens of thousands of Trump supporters attending that rally around the Capitol Building. Only a few hundred people out of those tens of thousand of people went into the Capitol Building.

At this time, we don’t know what motivated those few hundred people to go into the Capitol Building. It looked like most of them were there on a lark, to me. They just got carried away with the situation and made a big mistake entering the building.

The Democrats are trying to use this incident as a means to attack all Republicans and put them all in the same boat as those people who broke into the Capitol Building. That’s why the Media pretty much has a blackout on all information about this incident.

It is estimated the Democrats have 14,000 hours of video of the entire incident, yet very little of this video has been released to the public.

From long experience, I would say that if the Democrats had damning video of Republicans during the Capitol Building incident, this video would already have been made public, so I suspect they don’t have much ammunition in the videos that can do harm to Republicans.

The Democrats want to try and make out like all 75 million Trump supporters are insurrectionists and white supremacists and the worst kind of domestic terrorists, and so that is how they are shaping the narrative, and all this Capitol Building intrigue is a big part of that effort.

It looks like we are on the path to Totalitarianism if the radical Democrats have their way. They are trying to fix it so that only they are in control, and they have no morals, so anything goes, lawful or unlawful, as far as they are concerned, when it comes to attaining and keeping political power.

That’s where we are.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 1, 2021 9:39 pm

When you open your front door and invite someone into your house – they have not committed breaking and entering, have they? There were, at the most, fifty or sixty people scaling the walls and trying to push aside Capitol Police – coincidentally just about the same number as the “unindicted co-conspirators.” Everyone else was invited into the building. (Those who wandered into areas not open to the public – if they were clearly marked as such, which does include the office of the Speaker – are legally guilty of third degree trespass. Which is a <i>violation ticket</i>, not a misdemeanor or felony.)

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Writing Observer
July 3, 2021 5:06 am

“Those who wandered into areas not open to the public – if they were clearly marked as such, which does include the office of the Speaker – are legally guilty of third degree trespass. Which is a <i>violation ticket</i>, not a misdemeanor or felony.”

And they don’t deserve to be locked up for months without bail. If they were Democrat rioters, they wouldn’t have to pay any bail, but Trump trespassers are locked up forever.

Reacher51
Reply to  Writing Observer
July 3, 2021 10:35 am

Watch the video. No one opened the front door and invited rioters in. The rioters battled an outnumbered police force and violently broke in to the capitol at multiple points. The only door at which the rioters were “let in” was one that was opened by fellow rioters who had already broken in from the other side of the building.

The evidence for this is overwhelming. You simply need to open your eyes and watch it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/us/jan-6-capitol-attack-takeaways.html

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pochas94
July 1, 2021 2:52 am

These bad boys need at least couple weeks of detention.

ghalfrunt
July 1, 2021 3:20 am

insurrection
noun [ C/U ]US  /ˌɪn·səˈrek·ʃən/
 

an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government or ruler and take control of the country, usually by violence

n Washington, D.C., hundreds of youth climate activists surrounded the White House Monday in a nonviolent blockade <b>demanding President Biden take meaningful action</b> on the climate crisis. Secret Service agents made dozens of arrests. Members of the Sunrise Movement are calling on Biden and congressional Democrats to pass an infrastructure bill that includes major investments in green energy, including a fully funded Civilian Climate Corps. …

A mob of supporters of President Donald Trump <b>attempted to overturn his defeat</b> in the 2020 presidential election by disrupting the joint session of Congress assembled to count electoral votes to formalize President-elect Joe Biden‘s victory.

One protest wanted the elected officials to pass an infrastructure bill. The other protest wanted to oust the elected officials and replace with unelected officials.

There is a difference in what was being requested.

MarkW
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 1, 2021 9:12 am

It really is amazing how desperately liberals cling to their disproven lies.

pochas94
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 1, 2021 9:32 am

“There is a difference”
But also a similarity. Mob control of the government’s revenue.

niceguy
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 1, 2021 2:55 pm

“formalize President-elect Joe Biden‘s victory.”

If it’s a formality, why do objections exist?
How is he even “President-elect” before the counting?

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  niceguy
July 1, 2021 8:28 pm

Dementia Joe had a big sign that he stood in front of for the cameras that said “office of the president-elect”.

TonyG
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 2, 2021 7:51 am

an organized attempt 
What happened January 6 wasn’t organized

defeat their government or ruler 
Expression of anger and frustration isn’t that.

and take control of the country
Yeah, no POSSIBLE way that would have happened, except in people’s imagination.

To bed B
July 1, 2021 3:52 am

“Might is right” seems to have warped into “bovine excrement is right”

Speed
July 1, 2021 4:01 am

From the quoted article …

They failed, but their impotent rage nevertheless caused at least five deaths, including of Capitol police. 

From Wikipedia …
Five people died either shortly before, during, or after the event: one was shot by Capitol Police, one died of a drug overdose, and three succumbed to natural causes.
[ … ]
The District of Columbia chief medical examiner found that Sicknick had died from stroke, classifying his death as natural, whereby a death is “not hastened by an injury”,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_United_States_Capitol_attack

Bruce Cobb
July 1, 2021 4:47 am

The Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol might not meet the definition of an insurrection. But that is simply semantics. Nothing like it had ever happened before, so there is no word to accurately describe it. Perhaps riot comes closer. Still, to liken what these “revolutionaries” did to the Jan. 6 rioters, even in jest is retarded.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
July 1, 2021 6:59 am

Bruce,
You must have been napping a lot last summer! There were numerous attacks on federal, state and local govt buildings with improvised incendiary and explosive devises, hundreds of police officers were injured, many seriously!
Of course, the mostly peaceful protesters were largely angry, petulant children upset by the media lies they are fed; the Jan. 6th protestors were a lot of adults, angry that voter fraud in the recent election was obvious and widespread!

MarkW
Reply to  Abolition Man
July 1, 2021 9:13 am

Bruce’s hatred of Trump and anyone who supports him causes him to see what he wants to see.

Matthew Siekierski
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
July 1, 2021 9:00 am

No, there was actual force in the past.
1983
1971

Sara
July 1, 2021 5:37 am

Y’know, this ain’t the 1960s, when civil rights protests and protests against the draf really did mean something.
The nonsense that occurred in January was just that – nonsense, made ZERO sense, and did nothing of any value. And this bunch of lazy, shiftless ecohippies sitting on their butts outside the White House and demanding money? Send them packing and tell them to get jobs. There is plenty of work available if they really want money.
What a bunch of scam & scum they are!!!!

ENGINER01
July 1, 2021 5:54 am

Worse than the “mostly peaceful demonstration” of January 6. Those demonstrators went to Congress, as per the Constitution. These nuts went to the President, who wields the real power of the pulpit.

Ruleo
Reply to  ENGINER01
July 1, 2021 2:31 pm

LOL, no.

The President has no actual power, Congress lobbies for laws written by Globalists and SCOTUS & judges writes their own laws from the bench.

But all three branches (including mass media) are controlled by the Intelligence Community; keep that in mind at all times.

When asked who’s Biden’s handlers are? Easy to answer- CIA/NSA/ODNI/DIA.

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ToddF
July 1, 2021 7:35 am

“and force politicians to read political statements”

Actually, they just did that in Minneapolis, surrounding a council woman on the street and preventing her from traveling until she read and signed a list of demands.

July 1, 2021 10:20 am

Wait. For this to be an insurrection, they’d have to be trying to stage a coup. Whom were they trying to install as the new president?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rico
July 1, 2021 2:21 pm

An insurrection has to be organized by someone. Who organized the Jan. 6, incursion?

It couldn’t have been Trump. Trump was trying to get the Democrats at the Capitol Building to accept National Guard troops as security before Jan. 6. Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats refused the National Guard help for some reason.

Trying to send thousands of National Guard troops to the Capitol Building before Jan. 6, doesn’t sound like a plan an insurrectionist would make.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 1, 2021 6:12 pm

Correct, another small detail the leftist liars omit.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
July 1, 2021 7:50 pm

I heard some new details about that tonight from a Florida Congressman who held hearings on the Jan. 6 incident, and he said that three days before Jan. 6, Trump called up the people in charge of security at the Capitol Building and offered them all the National Guard they needed to secure the place, and then again, one day before Jan. 6, Trump again called the security people there, and noted the gathering crowds in Washington DC, and again offered any assistance he could give to secure the Capitol Building.

For some strange reason, all Trump’s offers were turned down by Nancy Pelosi and the Capitol Police.

These are not the acts of a president trying to overthrow the government. They are the acts of a president trying to preseve peace and security.

The situation is always the opposite of the way the Democrats describe it.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 1, 2021 8:32 pm

Now Nutter Nance has set up her “commission” to “investigate” the “insurrection” and of course named the biggest liar in the entire House to be on it: Adam Schiff-XXXX.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
July 3, 2021 5:09 am

I was surprised she didn’t put Swalwell on it.

She put Liz Cheney on it and of course, Liz accepted. Enjoy the time you have left in the House, Liz. You won’t be back.

Robert of Texas
July 1, 2021 10:24 am

If you really want to see hypocrisy at work…start a “defund the Capital Police” movement and see how many Congress Reps back that plan. They don’t care if the average person is protected, but when it comes to themselves, no amount of money is too much.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Robert of Texas
July 1, 2021 12:03 pm

Exactamundo! Just look at the NG troops that were stationed around the Capitol with razor wire and machine guns for weeks on end!
The DemoKKKrats played the “domestic terrorist” card continuously, while the media bleated in total agreement! Hell, AOC even got PTSD though she was several blocks away from the Capitol at the time!
The real purpose seems to have been to discredit Trump and his many supporters who believed that the election was stolen! In that they have failed miserably, as about 40% of Americans believe there was widespread fraud; and election audits in AZ, PA, MI, WI and other states seem to be gaining momentum!
If there was no fraud, why did the DemoKKKrats hire 100 lawyers to fight the AZ audit?

Reply to  Abolition Man
July 1, 2021 1:19 pm

Joey the Liar is guarded by people with “assault weapons”…..Joey sez “assault weapons” are not protected by the Constitution…..Impeach Joey….and deport him to Cuba.

niceguy
July 1, 2021 5:04 pm

It only took two billions to secure “the center and sacred symbol of democracy” from a “mob of extremists” some with horns – assault horns? (Other invaders may have been “gun toting” people but they forgot to “gun tote” that day.)

What would it take to secure the Pentagon and all military bases from really angry actual “gun toting” people many of which are vets, on the days where they actually carry rifles (and no buffalo horns)? Trillions?

ghalfrunt
July 1, 2021 7:28 pm
u.k.(us)
July 1, 2021 7:36 pm

Need a new word for what happened.
How about “warning”.

Greg
July 2, 2021 12:43 am

and murder the vice president ???

WTF? They were unarmed. How were they planning to “murder” VP Pence, strangle him with their “Nazi flags”?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Greg
July 3, 2021 5:13 am

Maybe the Viking guy was going to gore him with the horns on his helmet. I wonder if he got charged with wearing a deadly weapon?

Nah, the Viking guy looked like a “peace and love” kind of guy to me from his demeanor.

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