Bill Nye on Climate Deniers: “There’s an old saying — ‘science proceeds one funeral at a time’, … but it’s not happening fast enough.”

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Dr. Willie Soon; The Collegian, a Penn State University student publication, laments that there are still ageing contrarians and climate deniers who dispute the work of the great Michael Mann.

Penn State professor, climate scientist Michael Mann fights against climate denialism

Will Aguirre | The Daily Collegian
Apr 22, 2021

As the world changes and climate changes with it, one thing has stayed the same for decades — Michael Mann’s commitment to fighting the climate war.

Mann began studying quantum mechanics as an undergraduate at the University of California, Berkeley, with majors in physics and applied math. When he began work as a graduate student at Yale University, Mann said he was “lured away” from the physics department because there were still opportunities for young scientists to make “substantial contributions” at the forefront of climate studies.

Mann said he doesn’t want to blame fossil fuel workers for engaging in the “climate war.” Instead, he said he believes there are just a few corporate CEOs who serve as “bad actors” and make “cynical decisions knowing the devastating impact” they would have on the climate.

According to Nye, both him and Mann are frequently asked two common questions: “What can I do about climate change,” and “What can be done to convince someone who’s a climate denier?

Nye calls these the $10 trillion questions, because climate deniers are so “dug in” to their beliefs, which only makes it harder to convince them of what the science suggests.

The only definitive way to see significant action to prevent climate change is to simply wait for deniers and contrarians to “age out,” according to Nye.

There’s an old saying — ‘science proceeds one funeral at a time,’” Nye said, “but it’s not happening fast enough.”

Read more: https://www.collegian.psu.edu/news/campus/penn-state-professor-climate-scientist-michael-mann-fights-against-climate-denialism/article_a7a6c7c6-a2f7-11eb-ab1c-5bca01044a1a.html

There have been occasions where scientists have persuaded their colleagues by providing evidence to back their theories, rather than waiting for their opponents to die.

My favourite example, Barry Marshall and Robin Warren overcame resistance to their theory stomach ulcers are caused by a bacterial infection, by providing evidence to back their claim – they cultured the slow growing previously unknown bacteria responsible for stomach ulcers, proving it existed, and successfully cured ulcers with antibiotics.

Einstein also had trouble convincing his peers that space and time are mutable, until the day Einstein famously received a telegram, from British scientists who had conducted an expedition to an island off the west coast of Africa, to view a total solar eclipse. The purpose of the expedition was to test Einstein’s prediction that stars which appeared close to the sun during the eclipse would be slightly out of position, because star light skimming close to the sun would be bent by the sun’s gravity.

Perhaps if Mann and Nye presented evidence that global warming is causing a significant problem, more people would accept their claim we are currently experiencing a climate crisis.

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May 2, 2021 8:38 am

I know a funeral that would help science.

May 2, 2021 9:23 am

A nice glimpse behind the curtain.

rwisrael
May 2, 2021 10:14 am

Evidence ? We don’ need no stinkin’ evidence . We’re scientists.

May 2, 2021 10:41 am

Nowhere in the article does Bill Nye note that the reason for the slower progression of funerals is due directly to the use of fossil fuels.

May 2, 2021 12:28 pm

Nye is right.
What is taking him so darn long to kick the frickin bucket already?

May 2, 2021 1:43 pm

“but it’s not happening fast enough.”

So how do you propose to speed it up Billy you bowtied bumpkin.

I think the FBI need to have a chat with that boy,

JAW3
May 2, 2021 5:47 pm

Who’s the bigger loser? Is it Mann because he lost a lawsuit be default when he refused to submit his data to the court? Or is it Bill Nye the Science Guy because he has to attach himself to Mann to get some notice?

anna v
May 2, 2021 11:30 pm

“Perhaps if Mann and Nye presented evidence that global warming is causing a significant problem, more people would accept their claim we are currently experiencing a climate crisis.”

I think it is equally important to present evidence that CO2 is a controlling knob of temperature. We are coming out of the little ice age so of course there is on average global warming. The data over the centuries show that CO2 excess follows temperature, how can it control it?

Anyway, the next ice age is inexorably coming, lets hope the alarmists will also pass away by that time, so that humanity can have some heat and underground cities to face it.

Steve Z
May 3, 2021 9:42 am

Science would achieve significant progress after Bill Nye’s funeral.

John the Econ
May 3, 2021 12:22 pm

“Aging out” may have a different effect than Nye & Mann anticipate.

Much of the “consensus” that exists regarding climate science in academia is enforced through the transparent knowledge that promoting any research that is in conflict with the consensus narrative is a career killer. But as people approach the end of their careers and are no longer in fear of being fired, they will be more willing to speak out about the bad science that supports the approved narrative, or the suppressed science that threatens it.

So until they get honest-to-goodness gulags to physically isolate any potential non-conformists, they’ll never be rid of the problem.