The saviours of Democracy: Kevin Rudd, Michael Mann, Malcolm Turnbull

Mann, Rudd, Turnbull: Climate Denying Murdoch Media is a Threat to Democracy

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

According to Aussie ex-PMs Malcolm Turnbull and Kevin Rudd, and climate activist Michael Mann, the climate Deniers of Murdoch Media were responsible for the unrest which led to the January 6th storming of the US Capitol Building.

‘Utterly unaccountable’: Turnbull labels News Corp the most powerful political actor in Australia

By Lisa Visentin
Updated April 12, 2021 — 12.45pm

Former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull says Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp poses a real threat to Australian democracy, claiming it has surpassed the Coalition or Labor as the most powerful political force in the country.

In his evidence to the inquiry in February, Mr Rudd said News Corp used systematic character assassinations to cultivate a culture of fear among politicians, and engaged in campaign journalism against issues such as action on climate change. At the same public hearing, News Corp Australia executive chairman Michael Miller dismissed Mr Rudd and Mr Turnbull’s criticisms as “a convenient diversion from their own failings” during his evidence.

“This is the fundamental problem that we’re facing: the most powerful political actor in Australia is not the Liberal Party or the National Party or the Labor Party. It is News Corp. And it’s utterly unaccountable,” Mr Turnbull said.

“It’s controlled by an American family and their interests are no longer, if they ever were, coextensive with our own.”

He said the political might of the Murdoch empire represented “an absolute threat to our democracy” — a threat that he said America had already witnessed on January 6 when rioters stormed the US Capitol building. Mr Turnbull said the Murdoch-controlled Fox News had amplified the civil unrest that led to rioting, by promoting the lie that President Joe Biden had stolen the election from Donald Trump.

“If you don’t think that isn’t a threat to American democracy and undermining the strength and capability of our most important ally. Then, you know, you are kidding yourself,” Mr Turnbull said.

Read more: https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/utterly-unaccountable-turnbull-labels-news-corp-the-most-powerful-political-actor-in-australia-20210412-p57idq.html

Michael Mann has also joined the anti-Murdoch frenzy.

Not to be outdone, even the Anti-Defamation League’s Jonathan Greenblatt has jumped in with their own wild accusations. The ADL are suggesting the Murdoch Media is promoting anti-Jewish conspiracy theories, based on their painfully convoluted interpretation of something Tucker Carlson said. In my opinion the ADL’s wholehearted participation in what looks like a political lynch mob is particularly shameful, given their stated objectives and history.

Pulling together is the aim of despotism and tyranny. Free men pull in all kinds of directions. Terry Pratchett

If there is a genuine current threat to democracy, that threat is the growing obsession establishment liberals appear to have with shutting down the voices of people who disagree with them, whether that disagreement be political policy or climate science.

If Turnbull, Rudd, Mann or the ADL could demonstrate a single incident when Murdoch media genuinely incited violence, or incited people to pull down Australian democracy or the US Republic, there would be no need for insubstantial accusations and wild allegations. Inciting mob violence and insurrection is a crime. News Corp executives would be in jail awaiting trial, with a video playback of their alleged crime repeatedly looping on the cable feeds of rival media outlets.

But the liberal lynch mob have got nothing.

So why are they so keen to fling wild insubstantial accusations to try to silence their opponents? In my experience, only sore losers demand their opponents be silenced.

Given the smell of desperation coming from Mann, Rudd and Turnbull, I think we can safely say they are not acting like people who believe they are winning.

4.9 29 votes
Article Rating
240 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
John Tillman
April 12, 2021 6:10 am

The politicians overlook the fact that Fox called AZ for Biden prematurely.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  John Tillman
April 12, 2021 8:27 am

Yes, and that angered a *lot* of Republicans/conservatives.

Here’s a little factoid about the Arizona election: Biden won by about 10,000 votes. It is claimed that about 15,000 illegal aliens voted in the Arizona elections, and about 15,000 dead people voted in the elections and about 15,000 people who had moved out of Arizona voted in the Arizona election and we don’t know who cast all those votes for dead people and people no longer in residence.

We don’t know which way all those illegal votes went, but it is obvious there were enough there, that shouldn’t have been there, to swing the election one way or another.

So, we don’t know if the election was stolen (where’s Mike Lindell?), but we do know there was massive voter fraud in all the battleground States.

This voter fraud must be eliminated in future elections if we value our personal freedoms. We see the problem clearly now and we must fix it. Georgia has started us down the road to fair and legal elections. More States to follow.

Sage
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 12, 2021 8:37 am

My father lived in Chicago. He was a Republican all his life. No he votes Democratic.

Sage
Reply to  Sage
April 12, 2021 8:38 am

“now,” not “no”

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Sage
April 13, 2021 2:43 pm

Do you go into the voting booth with your father when he votes?

Scissor
Reply to  Sage
April 12, 2021 9:51 am

I take it he doesn’t need to submit ID.

Bill Powers
Reply to  Scissor
April 19, 2021 2:30 pm

Scissor, pay attention. He LIVED in Chicago he has been dead for years which is why he now votes Democrat. Every election since they laid the tombstone.

Gary Ashe
Reply to  Sage
April 12, 2021 2:27 pm

It’s democrat, there is nothing democratic about them.

TonyG
Reply to  Gary Ashe
April 13, 2021 6:48 am

Some Democrats get very upset when you call it the “Democrat” party instead of the “Democratic” party. Never understood that – why get upset over using it’s proper name?

2hotel9
Reply to  TonyG
April 13, 2021 7:43 am

Over the years I have had a great deal of fun jabbing them with that fact like a finger in the eye.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  TonyG
April 13, 2021 2:29 pm

Why indeed. The proper name for a party of Democrats is the Democrat Party.

If they call it the Democratic Party, then its members should be called Democratics,to be correct.

Murray Shaw
Reply to  Sage
April 12, 2021 3:51 pm

Is that since his death that he started voting Democrat?

tommyboy
Reply to  Sage
April 17, 2021 2:15 pm

My sincere condolences.
When did he pass away?

Jon R
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 12, 2021 8:52 am

Don’t count me in the “we” don’t know if it was stolen. Plenty enough data points for me to “know” .

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Jon R
April 13, 2021 2:35 pm

I would love to see some hard evidence. I haven’t seen any yet. I’ve seen a lot of suspicious stuff, but that’s not evidence. Nothing I’ve seen in public would hold up in Court as evidence of a stolen election.

Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see some evidence, but I’m not going to say there is evidence when I don’t see any. Just like with Human-caused Climate Change. The people making stolen election claims needs to prove their case. The sooner the better because I’m getting tired of defending them without any ammunition.

2hotel9
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 14, 2021 4:16 am

Courts have refused to look at any evidence presented. Simply refused delivery. That indicates there was a problem, and in multiple states the evidence is being resubmitted to courts. When you have to force the judicial system to actually do it’s job you have massive problems in our government.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  2hotel9
April 15, 2021 5:48 am

I would suggest that those who claim they have evidence of a stolen election submit that evidence to the Court of Public Opinion.

They are not going to overturn the election even if they have the evidence, so the Court of Public Opinion is more important than the judicial courts.

Present the evidence of theft to the public now, and the American people will rectify the situation at the next election. We don’t need courts for that. All we need is the truth.

2hotel9
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 16, 2021 3:51 am

So unless there is a consensus you won’t believe anything? The courts refuse to see any evidence, twatter silences any attempt to present evidence, farcebook ejects anyone who posts any evidence and msm ridicules and attacks all those who have presented evidence. What is your solution? Oh, and as long as Dominion Voting Systems and no ID for voting are the norm the next elections will be stolen in the same way. Again, what, precisely, is your solution?

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 12, 2021 9:08 am

Zuckerberg group gave Detroit $7.4 million to ‘dramatically’ expand vote in city key to Biden win
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/zuckerbergs-group-gave-whopping-74-million-detroit-expand-voting-city-key

Scissor
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
April 12, 2021 9:56 am

Isn’t it interesting that in many cities, democrats show their devotion to civic duty by voting at higher rates than their rates of high school graduation?

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Scissor
April 12, 2021 9:58 am

As always, the ends justify any means.

MarkH
Reply to  Scissor
April 12, 2021 11:26 pm

Sometimes even higher rates than their population.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MarkH
April 13, 2021 2:47 pm

Yes, it is claimed that several of the battleground states had more ballots cast than there are voters in those States.

An obvious fraud is going on in these cases.

bigoilbob
Reply to  Scissor
April 13, 2021 5:40 am

Not even that dog whistley. 50 years ago the National Review freely admitted that they wanted to restrict the franchise to only “properly qualified” voters. The Repubs still believe this, but know that in modern America we understand that we’re better off counting the votes that reflect our diversity, along with the others. Hence, the fact free deflections into “voter integrity” to suppress those votes….

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bigoilbob
April 13, 2021 2:48 pm

You don’t speak for Republicans or Conservatives, you just think you do.

bigoilbob
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 13, 2021 3:00 pm

“You don’t speak for Republicans or Conservatives, you just think you do.”

I agree that this is mostly unspoken. They are ashamed to do so among pesky outsiders..

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/everybody-shouldnt-be-voting-republican-vote-suppression-national-review-history.html

Last edited 3 months ago by bigoilbob
Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
April 13, 2021 2:45 pm

Are you presenting this as evidence of a stolen election?

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 13, 2021 4:28 pm

Zuckerburg paid and trained the Democrat poll operatives through this CTCL outfit in the key states, very likely how they all knew to keep Republican pole watchers from seeing the shenanigans.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
April 15, 2021 5:51 am

“Very likely” won’t hold up in court.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  S.K.
April 13, 2021 2:55 pm

I’ve looked all over Mike Lindell’s website where he details some of the shenanigans that went on in the election, but none of that is proof of a stolen election.

It is proof that there was massive fraud involved, but there is no way to tell how the vote would have gone without the fraud, and there is no way to differentiate the fraudulent votes from the legitimate votes and there is no way to know for whom any of those ballots were cast.

The only way election fraud can be proven is if Mike Lindell really has the goods on the Democrats and can detail his internet investigations to the point that they become evidence. He says he can do it. He has yet to do so.

Proof of voter fraud and corruption? Answer: Yes.

Proof of a stolen election? Answer: No.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 13, 2021 4:38 pm

Have you looked at hereistheevidence.com?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
April 15, 2021 6:10 am

I looked at it just now. It looks like it details voting irregularities.

There is no question that there were voting irregularities. The question is how do we distinguish Trump votes from Biden votes?

Not enough information has been presented to determine this, at least as far as I have seen.

2hotel9
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 16, 2021 3:56 am

When those presenting evidence of “voting irregularities” are routinely silenced and attacked by media/social media and ignored entirely by the judicial system how do you expect “enough information” to get to the public?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
April 15, 2021 6:12 am

I just tried your first link above and got a message saying “Bandwidth exceeded, try again later. I wonder if that has any significance? 🙂

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 13, 2021 5:48 pm

Unfortunately, Mike Lindell was likely a victim of a con man named Dennis Montgomery with regard to the “Hammer and Scorecard” stuff:

https://www.thepostemail.com/2021/02/15/the-montgomery-disinformation-campaign-ramps-up/

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
April 15, 2021 6:26 am

Here’s a quote from that link:

“So far, there is significant circumstantial evidence of unusual amounts of internet traffic between foreign locations and the United States. But we do not have any tangible, verifiable evidence showing votes being switched via a command or intervention from a foreign server.”

We need tangible, verifiable evidence. It has not been presented yet. We’ve had a lot of claims and promises but no solid evidence. That’s not to say that might not change in the future.

What the evidence we have accumulated so far *does* show is that our election laws need to be reformed so that only legal voters can vote in American elections.

Last edited 3 months ago by Tom Abbott
Robert J Doyle
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 12, 2021 4:55 pm

AZ isn’t over. A manual recount of Maricopa County will take place. That’s nearly 2 million votes.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Robert J Doyle
April 12, 2021 6:17 pm

But it depends on who will monitor it.

bigoilbob
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 13, 2021 5:33 am

“It is claimed…”.

Right up there with “People are sayin'”.

Since you all will never be taken seriously above ground as long as you engage in this fact free whining, I should not even be trying to help you with my comments.

2hotel9
Reply to  bigoilbob
April 13, 2021 5:47 am

Fact free, both your comments in this thread once again prove you to be exactly that.

paul courtney
Reply to  bigoilbob
April 13, 2021 8:46 am

Oh, no, Mr. bob, please don’t stop, you are our only hope to find the true path.
Nothing goes with a “fact-free whine” better than a “you people are unworthy of my wisdom” cracker.

2hotel9
Reply to  paul courtney
April 13, 2021 9:58 am

And don’t forget the “I am so superior” cheese.

Gunga Din
Reply to  2hotel9
April 13, 2021 4:55 pm

A cheeser, a cracker and a whine.
I’m convinced! /sarc

Reply to  John Tillman
April 12, 2021 9:13 am

Sky News Australia (and New Zealand) are owned by News Corp. ….Murdoch is a puzzle…his sons must be changing things. Sky News is the best channel out there?

Redge
Reply to  Anti_griff
April 12, 2021 11:41 pm

Sky News in the UK now have a whole section devoted to climate disinformation

April 12, 2021 6:17 am

Murdoch is a huge piece of sheight, no argument there, so the only reason these shining beacons of kakastocracy could have for attacking him, is to lend him credence amongst those who have lost all trust in the press. “Look, Murdoch is on our side, let’s believe all the shite coming from his organ/s”.
Like Sputnik V, the “alternative vaccine” for those who distrust the eugenicist scum from Big Pharmafia, who are obviously trying to do us all in.
P.S. People think Fox News was on Trump’s side, when, in fact, they got their “information” from the same people who “informed” Trump, the politically ignorant narcissist who (may have) thought he would be allowed to make significant changes to anything other than increasing the amount of money stopped up Israel’s sphincter.

Protocol 12 v 11: “In the third rank we shall set up our own, to all appearance, off position, which, in at least one of its organs, will present what looks like the very antipodes to us. Our real opponents at heart will accept this simulated opposition as their own and will show us their cards.”

Last edited 3 months ago by paranoid goy
Gary Pearse
Reply to  paranoid goy
April 12, 2021 8:04 am

Silly remarks all around. Even big pharma and viruses that want to last don’t want to kill off their ‘hosts’. Make them sick, yes, but don’t shrink the market.

Regarding news, its difficult to argue with woke foke who don’t consider the function of news in the same way as those who managed to transcend their ‘education’. Content isn’t important to such. They want the message to conform to their deeply inculcated world view whether the newscasters make it up or not.

Mr.
Reply to  paranoid goy
April 12, 2021 8:17 am

I came back to this comment after a 2nd cup of coffee, but it still didn’t make sense.

Komeradecube
Reply to  Mr.
April 12, 2021 10:36 am

Griff by any other name.

Gary K Hoffman
Reply to  Mr.
April 12, 2021 12:40 pm

You’re drinking the wrong beverage. Try again tonight.

Reply to  Mr.
April 13, 2021 12:54 am

Okay, I’ll type slowly so everyone can keep up:
The subject matter at hand, is that a bunch of propagandists are calling Rupert Murdoch names. As I am well aware of Murdoch’s track record for Bolshevik propaganda, the only likely explanation for him being attacked, is yet more Bolshevik subterfuge, most probably they are trying to lend him some “street cred” amongst that part of the population who are fed up with the communist propaganda coming from the so-called Left. The purpose will be to instill trust in him, by posing him as an enemy of the Left (which he isn’t), then let him continue to propagandise the “Right”, using terms aligned with their political/ intellectual/ personal bias, further dividing society into two (and only two) camps.
To illustrate my point, I quoted a paragraph from something published over a century ago, to show that this is known and established propaganda methodology as used by the Bolsheviks, namely the creation of a political “opposition” and accompanying Press organs, that only oppose those things the government wants to change, anyway. It makes the proletariat feel they are partaking in the “political process”. See “limited hangout”.

As a postscript I supplied an example, using Trump, who was often constantly accused of “waking up in the morning, and watching Fox to see what he needs to Tweet today”. But I only now remember, most people forget yesterday’s news the moment the see today’s “news”.
I should maybe not have mentioned Trump’s very public record of narcissism, but his political ignorance? The Trump fans must make the logical choice; either the man was/is woefully naive and ignorant of the so-called “political process”, or he willingly played a stage role. In other words, he was either ignorant, or complicit. Have you a better explanation?

Gunga Din
Reply to  paranoid goy
April 13, 2021 5:03 pm

Type more slowly.
But this time make sense.
What’s wrong with an opposing opinion being heard?
Somebody might hear it?

Reply to  Gunga Din
April 14, 2021 12:51 am

Okay, one letter at a time: The point of my statement/s is this: They want no opposing opinion, but they create Press organs and other public fora that, on the surface, appear to be in opposition, but actually they exist merely to give dissenters the illusion of having an outlet for their opinions, and allowing those opinions to be guided and swayed as Bolsh deem fit.
One major role of such a forum, is to attack the State, constantly baiting, but only on those things the government wants to change anyway, but doing so by themselves, may make them appear to be regretting their own previous decisions. That would breed doubt about Their infallability, and we can’t have that, can we?
I am a little disturbed that so many people object to having such an easily verifyable fact of policy pointed out…

TonyG
Reply to  paranoid goy
April 14, 2021 8:10 am

“they create Press organs and other public fora that, on the surface, appear to be in opposition, but actually they exist merely to give dissenters the illusion of having an outlet for their opinions”

You appear to be suggesting the idea of controlled opposition, ala the Brotherhood in 1984, although rather less “underground”

Mr.
Reply to  paranoid goy
April 13, 2021 6:21 pm

I don’t offer any explanation for Trump.
Other than – what you see is what you get.
(And agree with his policies or not, that made him an extraordinary exception as a politician)

Reply to  Mr.
April 14, 2021 12:38 am

The issue at hand is not Trump, it is the duplicity of Bolsheviks attacking Rupert Murdoch, one of their own, and it seems I am, so far, the only one here that tried to offer a logical reason for that.
Not because I am so clever, but every thread seems to go off topic. Including this one, where throwing ad hominems at me seems more important than the (very important) issue treated in the main article.
For those harping on about the “stolen election”, here’s something written in July 2018 already:
https://www.greenpets.co.za/index.php/en/globalism/161-election-hacking
And…it never insults Trump even once (Hillary is another issue!).

2hotel9
Reply to  paranoid goy
April 14, 2021 4:41 am

Yes, he was opposed from ALL sides politically. He stated, openly and repeatedly, that he was going to disrupt the political machine and he did. To be clear, Democrats opposed him, Republicans opposed him, career bureaucrats opposed him and media/academia opposed him. . They are all enemies of the citizens and are fighting tooth&nail to remain in power.

Philip
Reply to  paranoid goy
April 12, 2021 8:30 am

Your a dimwit, we didn’t need fox news or anybody else to tell us what we saw with our own eyes. If the Democrats didn’t steal the election it wasn’t from lack of trying. Now they are trying to institutionalize voter fraud with HR.1.
It isn’t going to happen. You have to have picture ID, and verification of signatures and a legal trial of possession and opposition to verify ballot counting.

Reply to  Philip
April 12, 2021 10:01 am

I got excited to see I’ve broken my personal record for downvotes, then I saw your four upvotes, and realised the level of intellect disagreeing with me.
Just so you know (and Mr and Gary) I did not insult Trump in any way, as you’ll see if you read slowly, without moving your lips. As for those “stolen” elections? The man had four years to fix that, we could see that coming, even from here in Africa.

Reply to  paranoid goy
April 12, 2021 10:45 am

Your first comment didn’t make sense to me either–I think your writing style that doesn’t mesh with my reading comprehension. However, I do agree that we saw this coming. For 4 years I called every republican in Arizona I could (I used to live between Alaska and Arizona–which since election have switched to Montana) and asked what they were doing to protect the election–NO ONE listened. As if they wanted to not hear us! We all knew Sinema stole it from McSalley and it was IGNORED. So we knew what was coming. Arizona got what it deserved and so has our country–we KNEW–and we IGNORED–so we live under the new social justice fascist regime.

Philip
Reply to  paranoid goy
April 12, 2021 11:29 am

I didn’t accuse you of insulting Trump, but when you see a person with a ski mask again and duffel bag go ins bank you know what is going on.
When they refuse to listen to one thousnd plus people who swear a affidavit under penalty of surgery you know what’s going on, when they systematically kick out the Republican observers you know what is going on, when they send everyone except 3 of their people and pull hidden boxes of ballots and start counting you know what is going on,when a truck load of ballots show up from out of state with no paper trail you know what’s going on, when voting machines start randomly switching ballots to Biden you know what’s going on. While you know the guy with the ski mask is going to rob a bank, all those other action are what happens when you steal votes, there is no there reason for those actions. For Gods sake grow up or wake up but if seriously don’t know any better you have my condolences.

Dmacleo
Reply to  paranoid goy
April 12, 2021 12:27 pm

I did not insult Trump in any way

Trump, the politically ignorant narcissist

yeah…

Last edited 3 months ago by Dmacleo
Gunga Din
Reply to  paranoid goy
April 13, 2021 5:06 pm

paranoid goyI got excited to see I’ve broken my personal record for downvotes,”

But at least here you were allowed to be heard. 
What do your heroes want?

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Philip
April 12, 2021 11:23 am

First three words a pun? ;-D

Hutches Hunches
Reply to  paranoid goy
April 12, 2021 12:38 pm

What’s your point dude..or is it dud? or maybe gender confused “guy”? Who knows… Arguing gibberish only exposes one’s own ignorance and foolish mind…

fred250
Reply to  paranoid goy
April 12, 2021 1:17 pm

Did you take the wrong tablets today ??

If not, see your psychiatrist and get the dose adjusted.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  paranoid goy
April 12, 2021 1:55 pm

Where are the moderators? Or does this website now allow explicit antisemitic posts?

Reply to  Izaak Walton
April 14, 2021 12:54 am

Shame, need a cry room?

B Clarke
April 12, 2021 6:18 am

I doubt mann would criticise the BBC for their one sided approach to climate, were the guidelines are ” the science is settled ” with no opposing view allowed , its rather hypocritical of Mann to oppose a different view. One that disagrees with his agenda, of course it does not agree with manns science because he’s never writen any.

Tony Sullivan
Reply to  B Clarke
April 12, 2021 6:31 am

Sums it up perfectly.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Tony Sullivan
April 12, 2021 6:42 am

Well, only if you don’t count misspellings and punctuation errors. 🙂

B Clarke
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
April 12, 2021 8:37 am

Grow up ,

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  B Clarke
April 12, 2021 12:20 pm

Should be “Grow up.” That is, unless you have something else to say.

B Clarke
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
April 12, 2021 2:35 pm

Whats wrong pal nothing better to do than be a grammar queen

Grow up,

Add something interesting to the debate.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  B Clarke
April 12, 2021 5:22 pm

B Clarke,

Gary Ashe’s Post of 2:38 pm today gave me pause to reflect . . . and I came away concluding, yes, my bad!

There are people from around the world that post here on WUWT, and I can appreciate that some of them have had difficulties learning English as a second language (ESL).

So, in consideration of this, I apologize for my previous remarks related to your posts in this commentary thread.

B Clarke
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
April 13, 2021 12:26 am

What makes you think I’m from around the world whatever that means , not the first time you have popped in to criticise my grammar is it, yet you can’t comment on content nor take part in any threads on this site to any intelligent level.

Your a sad little troll with nothing better to do than be a grammar queen .

As for Gary Ashes post I would of thought it would of given you time to do something else.

So what is it with people like you? Who latch on to people for months in the guise pointing out spelling errors ( something which you actually didn’t do) because there wasn’t any,are you lonely? Vertically challenged? Is it i got more pluses than you and your jealous? The only other post in this thread you made was a quation hardly a intellectual master piece on your part.

Gary Ashe
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
April 12, 2021 2:38 pm

This is word perfect, you are a w@nker son.
Pick the bones out of that.

Have a nice day.

Gunga Din
Reply to  B Clarke
April 13, 2021 5:36 pm

While I apricate your efforts to preserve the proper use of the English language, you go too far at times.
(I’m sure there is a name for a “logical falacy” that tries to discredit what was said by addressing a “typo” rather than the point.)
Continue to correct our spelling and grammar, but not to discredit what was said or to make yourself appear superior to us mere mortals.

PS Yes, I misspelled a word above. On purpose. (A figure of speech, a departure from the normal rules of grammar, but I can’t recall it’s name.
I’m sure it has one.)

Dr Ken Pollock
April 12, 2021 6:19 am

Any mention of the storming of the Capitol on January 6th demands comment. The rioters were unarmed. The only death from a gun was of a protester, hit by a police bullet. They were not in disguise – they flaunted their identity. They did not try to kill anyone, they did not set fire to anything. They are branded as fascists.

Contrast that with the antifa protests that went on throughout 2020, based in Portland Oregon. Read Andy Ngo “Unmasked” to see the precise, detailed and irrefutable activities of the “antifa” movement, supposedly fighting fascism, but actually against the police and capitalism. Day after day of destruction, fires and violence, all hidden behind black masks, to avoid identity. And when arrested, largely excused and not prosecuted by frightened or complicit authorities. And where were the media? Also complicit in their silence. Frightening…

Jon R
Reply to  Dr Ken Pollock
April 12, 2021 8:58 am

Preach!

Dmacleo
Reply to  Dr Ken Pollock
April 12, 2021 12:35 pm

worst insurrection in all of history.

Gordon A. Dressler
April 12, 2021 6:22 am

Opening of the above article:
“According to Aussie ex-PMs Malcolm Turnbull and Kevin Rudd, and climate activist Michael Mann, the climate Deniers of Murdoch Media were responsible for the unrest which led to the January 6th storming of the US Capitol Building.”

Hmmm . . . just wondering if any of those infamous three have any formal training, let alone an advanced degree, in human psychology?

There is a saying: “Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.” 

Mr.
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
April 12, 2021 9:30 am

Mann, Rudd, Turnbull –
The 3 MegaEgos.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Mr.
April 12, 2021 10:40 am

3 Stooges for the Globalist Billionaires financing this nonsense through Green NGO fronts.

LdB
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
April 13, 2021 8:21 am

They left out resident redefiner Nick Stokes … he was on bleating about how Murdoch had knifed Turnbull. The fact that most Australian view Rudd and Turnball as spineless wimps and probably just behind Julia in the hater stakes goes straight over his head.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
April 12, 2021 6:29 am

Wow, they have nearly all of the MSM in their corner, spewing CAGW propaganda, but it isn’t enough. Such behavior smacks of desperation, they are afraid they are losing control of their own narrative.

Last edited 3 months ago by Pamela Matlack-Klein
Abolition Man
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
April 12, 2021 7:31 am

Pamela,
Even wee snippets of truth interjected into the news “ist verboten” to the heralds of Climastrological propaganda! Just as a small seed fallen into a cracked concrete sidewalk can grow into a tall tree, small bits of facts and data that might make someone say, “Hmmm!” are to be avoided at all costs!
When you’re trying to fool the whole world into believing that small amounts of natural warming are not cycles, but due to a much needed gas that is in short supply; you can’t let even the tiniest cracks in the edifice go unchallenged!
They ARE desperate! They are deathly afraid the next cooling cycle will begin and intensify before all their plans come to fruition, and they get tossed out on their sorry backsides!

Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
April 12, 2021 7:55 am

Ultimately, their physics defying position on CAGW is unsustainable and any scientist worth the paper their degree is printed on should be able to figure this out. Just in case the truth is too elusive for weaker minds, here’s some undeniable guidance.

In the steady state, each Joule of radiation leaving the planet requires 1.62 Joules of radiation to leave the surface. This differs from a black body which requires 1 Joule of surface radiation for 1 Joule to escape. Earth is otherwise equivalent to a gray body whose emissivity is 0.62 and comprised of a nearly ideal BB surface and a graying layer called the atmosphere which intercepts some surface emissions and returns about half of what’s intercepted back to the surface while the rest is ultimately emitted into space.
I
The IPCC promotes the false idea that for the next Joule to leave TOA, between 2.2 (0.4C per W/m^2) and 6.6 Joules (1.2C per W/m^2) will need to leave the surface. They then claim that nebulous positive feedback will ‘amplify’ 1.6 into between 2.2 and 6.6, yet they can’t identify the origin of the Joules required to replace the extra 0.8 to 5 Joules they claim must leave the surface. The theoretical origin of these extra Joules is the power supply of the feedback amplifier that isn’t even an identifiable component of the climate system and in reality, these Joules are literally created out of thin air in defiance of COE which is the most basic first principle.

They echo the Schlesinger justification which is that the power supply is the average power not accounted for by the incremental analysis while failing to acknowledge that the average power not accounted for by the incremental analysis is already completely consumed maintaining the average temperature and its corresponding emissions which are also not accounted for.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  co2isnotevil
April 12, 2021 9:22 am

Presumably, the extra joules run the weather engine. Those joules that don’t leave the surface of the sea run the ocean currents.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
April 12, 2021 10:24 am

If the Joules don’t leave the surface as radiation, they can’t be a result of the surface temperature, nor can they be returned to offset the absurd increase in surface emissions being claimed. This such a blatant violation of COE, the fact that this is allowed to persist reflects badly on all science. This is not a result of cancelling math, but one of cancelling first principles physics.

Most of the energy driving weather comes from the difference between the temperature of precipitation and the expected temperature if all of the latent heat was returned to the water before it fell as rain (or snow), that is, the temperature of the surface water that was initially evaporated. Note that this energy is already accounted for as part of Trenberth’s ‘back radiation’ term.

When you carve out the return of latent heat and other non radiant energy transfers between the surface and the atmosphere, all that’s left are the Joules required to offset the average emissions. All non radiant energy plus its return to the surface is already fully accounted for by the average temperature and its subsequent emissions. No additional influence on the temperature is possible, yet the absurd notion of amplification by positive feedback tries to support claims to the contrary.

Non radiant energy can only be returned to the surface as only radiant energy can leave the planet. To the extent that that a Joule radiated from the planet can trace its origin to latent, the radiant Joule that would have left must be returned to the surface instead in order to offset the lost latent heat. On other words, non radiant energy has a zero sum influence on the radiant balance.

B Clarke
Reply to  co2isnotevil
April 12, 2021 11:20 am

Well explained fella

Jon R
Reply to  co2isnotevil
April 12, 2021 12:54 pm

Pre Revolution science, nice! Brings back so much nostalgia.

Reply to  Jon R
April 12, 2021 1:03 pm

Back when following the science meant follow where the scientific method leads, rather than lead the science towards what you want it to mean.

old construction worker
Reply to  co2isnotevil
April 13, 2021 9:13 am

‘The theoretical origin of these extra Joules is the power supply of the feedback amplifier that isn’t even an identifiable component of the climate system and in reality, these Joules are literally created out of thin air in defiance of COE which is the most basic first principle.’ This is called the “Fudge Factor” multiplayer to balance their math with current and past temperatures

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
April 12, 2021 8:30 am

Exactly right, Pamela.

observa
April 12, 2021 6:31 am

What a load of tosh as here’s typical Aunty with a storm down at Port Fairy and shock horror a bad storm tosses some rocks off their sea wall that’s been stuck there trying to fight nature in the first place-
Big surf flips boulders across road in Port Fairy, reigniting climate change, coastal erosion concerns (msn.com)
and out they come with the dooming as usual. Without the Murdoch Press that’s all we’d ever hear from these climate doomsters and disgruntled ex PMs suffering attention deprivation disorder. Two peas in a pod making anyone who voted for them at the time cringe every time they open their gobs nowadays and praying they’ll both emigrate to New Zealand.

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  observa
April 12, 2021 6:50 am

“…making anyone who voted for them at the time cringe every time they open their gobs nowadays”
That’s how we Americans feel about John Boehner.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ted-cruz-mocks-john-boehners-drunken-bloviated-scorn

Craig from Oz
Reply to  observa
April 12, 2021 7:13 am

Sorry ABC news, but those ‘boulders’ are volcanic in origin. They are not THAT dense.

Also note the tone in the second half of the article. “Please help rescue the cute little penguins! Cause their cute! If you see any other native animal just ignore it, cause who wants to animal rescue on something that is butt ugly?”

Craig from Oz
Reply to  observa
April 12, 2021 7:23 pm

Further to Observa’s linked article, there is a reference in there of people being trapped on an island.

Having been to Port Fairy on many occasions (but not recently because sod Dan Andrews and his random control freak lockdowns) I am familiar with this island.

It is located a short walk from the centre of town and accessed via a causeway of about 75m length. There is no real continuous path around the island and for sections of the walk you are required to pass through soft sand dunes. Still, you do get a nice look at the local lighthouse and, in fair weather at least, I would recommend it.

In the face of an oncoming storm front you are a bloody idiot. There is next to know shelter, some parts of the path are literally along the (seaward) beach front and the causeway is built to be above the nominal high water mark but is not remotely a sea wall.

The fact people got stuck on the island is not remotely a reflection on ‘Climate Change’ but on human stupidity.

YallaYPoora Kid
Reply to  observa
April 13, 2021 5:52 am

Advised by a mate who is a local to Port Fairy that this happens once a year every year so it is not news locally.
The AB friggin C tie the event to AGW / CC of course. Scaremongering as usual.

Mumbles McGuirck
April 12, 2021 6:43 am

I’m sorry, but they’re not “sore losers”. They’re winning the battles in the media and public opinion. So you’d think they’d be magnanimous in victory. That they remain vicious in their persecution of their opponents belies their uncertainty about their position. They’ve built a house of cards on a wobbly card table and fear any slight jostling.

Coach Springer
April 12, 2021 6:47 am

First “climate”, then the world, and then all of its guiding principles including democracy. These are Disney’s new replacements for Guardians of the Galaxy?

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Coach Springer
April 12, 2021 9:25 am

And we end up with a galaxy of Guardians.

Carlo, Monte
April 12, 2021 6:52 am

Send in the ZhouBots.

Peta of Newark
April 12, 2021 6:52 am

The basic tactic of the politics of the primary-school playground..

Accuse others of what you know yourself to be guilty of.
(before they accuse you. Good Things come to those that wait)

Bruce Cobb
April 12, 2021 6:55 am

The Three Stooges of Climate casting aspersions upon those who refuse to Believe. The only question is, which one’s Moe, which is Larry, and which is Curly?

Abolition Man
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
April 12, 2021 7:35 am

Hey, these guys make Larry, Moe and Curly look like old timeintelligentsia with pipes and tweeds!

Editor
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
April 12, 2021 7:40 am

Thanks, Bruce Cobb. Now I have images of Mann doing Curly stuff, like spinning on the floor.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2iZPRif2i4&w=560&h=315%5D

And that’s making me smile!!! Same hairdos, BTW.

Regards,
Bob

Anon
April 12, 2021 6:58 am

A bigger threat to Democracy is calling half the voter population “deplorables”. No matter what you think of your opposition, they have a right to be heard.

And now we seem to be set on a collision course with Russia over the Ukraine, and the following POV is not covered by the US media:

Why is Ukraine the West’s Fault? John Mearsheimer – University of Chicago

https://youtu.be/JrMiSQAGOS4

And one of the “seminal events” that set us down this road is this:

A Blacklisted Film and the New Cold War

Why is the U.S. mainstream media so frightened of a documentary that debunks the beloved story of how “lawyer” Sergei Magnitsky uncovered massive Russian government corruption and died as a result? Instead we – in the land of the free, home of the brave – are protected from seeing this documentary produced by filmmaker Andrei Nekrasov who was known as a fierce critic of Russian President Vladimir Putin but who in this instance found the West’s widely accepted Magnitsky storyline to be a fraud.

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/08/02/a-blacklisted-film-and-​the-new-cold-war/

The full film can be seen here, at the bottom of the page:

The Magnitsky Act: Behind the Scenes

https://swprs.org/the-magnitsky-act-movie/

So, if you are looking to Red Pill some of your MSM consuming progressive acquaintances, apart from the CAGW subject, those two videos are a good place to start. I can almost guarantee that no one will have seen them; but you can’t understand the current conflict with Russia without them.

I don’t know what to say about the US media at this point, but a greater threat than Murdoch to us all is the progressive media’s “aversion to the truth”. IMHO

Last edited 3 months ago by Anon
Tom Abbott
Reply to  Anon
April 12, 2021 8:40 am

Putin wants to create a greater Russian Empire and these military adventures are part of that plan.

Putin thinks he sees weakness now that Biden is in Office, and so he is going to push the envelope a little and see what happens in response.

Perhaps Putin notices how the Western world is avoiding blaming the Chicoms for the Wuhan virus mass murder they inflicted on the world, and feels emboldened by the West’s lack of a forceful response to Chicom mass murder.

Looking the other way when it comes to murderus dictators is not the way to deter them from their murderous ways. It has just the opposite effect. This is something the Cowardly Left cannot face and cannot handle. When the Left is in charge, we are all in trouble, because the dictators run wild.

Komeradecube
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 12, 2021 10:46 am

Our current crop of lefties wants to join the dictators.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Komeradecube
April 13, 2021 3:00 pm

The first instinct of the Left is to appease dictators. That’s what they are doing now by ignoring the Chicoms turning the Wuhan virus loose on the world.

They are a bunch of cowards. And since that is the case, this problem will not go away with them in charge.

Last edited 3 months ago by Tom Abbott
chickenhawk
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 12, 2021 3:35 pm

Here’s a thought: Which country is the most corrupt, or maybe, which major world leading type of country is most corrupt? Hard to point fingers anymore when our “deepstate” critters are playing hard…

Tom Abbott
Reply to  chickenhawk
April 13, 2021 3:06 pm

I think China and Russia’s leaders are equally corrupt. I think the current U.S. leadership is corrupt and traitorous, and if they stay in power long enough, then they will be a mirror image of the Chicom model of government.

We have a lot of Amercian Democrats working hard to undermine their government from the inside.

A note of interest: When Trump took Office, the classified leaks came hot and heavy. Under the Biden admistration, no classified material has been leaked. Whose side do you think the Keepers of the Secrets are on?

April 12, 2021 7:06 am

Someone must stand up to bullies like Mann who ignorantly push fake science for egotistical gain and political favor. However, with or without News Corp on the side of truth, this debate will not end until the alarmist fold, since the laws of physics will ultimately win even when the desires of man(n) oppose them.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  co2isnotevil
April 12, 2021 8:50 am

The fact is that Fox News, at least here in the U.S., does not promote denial of Human-caused Climate Change. They do bring on folks to give the other side of the story, but I’ve never seen any serious questioning of the science by Fox News hosts. They may scoff at the costs and the numerous other absurdities associated with Human-caused Climate Change, but they don’t really challenge the science per se.

They bring on Bjorn Lomborg and he always starts out by saying Human-caused Climate Change is real and needs attention, and that’s about as close to a skeptic as they put on the air. Mark Marano appears occasionally but they don’t ever seem to discuss the science, just the current climate change absurdity being promoted in the alarmist communty.

You can’t blame tv hosts for not taking on the science. The climate is a very complicated subject and takes a lot of effort to understand, and most people have other things to do.

Fox News tries to walk a middle road. They succeed most of the time. The nighttime hosts at Fox are definitely conservative in their viewpoints, but they make no secret of this fact, unlike those of the Leftwing Media who try to pretend they are the ones who are fair and balanced and have no political biases.

Last edited 3 months ago by Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 12, 2021 10:44 am

Yes, the foolhardy economics of ‘green’ are much easier for the non scientific mind to grasp while the IPCC and its alarmist following has so badly misrepresented, corrupted and obfuscated the science, the scientific truth even eludes many skeptical scientists in addition to the talking heads at Fox. Those skeptical scientists who don’t recognize that the macroscopic Earth is a classic gray body are among those who are horribly confused by the misdirection. If you think it has to be more complicated than this, please cite the laws of physics that can support anything else.

As unambiguous, undeniable proof, here’s the data (from GISS). The green line is what we would expect from an ideal gray body whose emissivity is 0.62 and the blue line is what we would expect based on the claims of the IPCC. The small dots are the measured data spanning 3 decades of monthly averages for 2.5 degree slices of latitude from pole to pole.

http://www.palisad.com/co2/tp/fig1.png

QED.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  co2isnotevil
April 12, 2021 11:37 am

Link not working, unfortunately.

Reply to  AGW is Not Science
April 12, 2021 3:07 pm

Try again. One of my DNS secondaries was broken after a recent update. It should be OK now.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 13, 2021 3:12 pm

And I should add that Mark Steyn is an occasional host on Fox News, and he probably knows as much about the subject of Human-caused Climate Change as anyone, yet they never tap his expertise on the subject for some reason. Perhaps they don’t want to appear to be attacking “consensus” science.

I think they ought to let Mark Steyn have an hour or two of airtime focused on the fraud that is Human-caused Climate Change. I won’t hold my breath waiting for that to happen, though.

Rainer Bensch
Reply to  co2isnotevil
April 13, 2021 4:33 am

But religion needs no physics.

Spetzer86
April 12, 2021 7:09 am

If I had to compare the threat represented by 06Jan and that represented by the on-going riots in Minneapolis, the Seattle unrest, and the almost continuous riots in Portland, I’m going to lean on the Left being much more violent and threatening than the Right.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Spetzer86
April 12, 2021 7:32 am

Don’t forget that the same bunch is responsible for the violence in each case, it was the left’s goon squads who were breaking windows and doors at the U.S. Capital.

Simon
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
April 12, 2021 10:44 pm

 it was the left’s goon squads who were breaking windows and doors at the U.S. Capital.” What complete BS. Proof please.

fred250
Reply to  Simon
April 12, 2021 11:18 pm

You really can’t handle the truth, can you, simon simpleton

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  fred250
April 13, 2021 2:14 pm

All Simon the Shill has to do is search for “John Sullivan”.

Simon
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
April 13, 2021 2:45 pm

Yeah right.

Simon
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
April 13, 2021 3:04 pm

And all “Carlo the Fabricator” has to do is tell the truth. There were no left wing protesters involved in the mongrel group who stormed the capital.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Simon
April 13, 2021 4:41 pm

Who is John Sullivan?

TonyG
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
April 14, 2021 6:57 am

MC, Simon won’t accept any fact that contradicts his preconceptions.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  TonyG
April 14, 2021 8:52 pm

Or that might negate his hatred.

fred250
Reply to  Simon
April 13, 2021 11:41 pm

More BS from slimon. !

Simon
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
April 13, 2021 12:59 pm

So once again Carlo shoots his mouth off with no evidence to back up his nonsense… We will see which side those who broke the law were on when the trials start, but at the moment, my money is on the losers who took Trump’s bait.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Simon
April 13, 2021 2:12 pm

My prediction has come true.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Spetzer86
April 12, 2021 9:16 am

Those several hundred people who went into the Capitol Building did enormous damage to the Republican Party. They gave the Left the ammunition they needed to demonize the entire Right, and it continues to this day.

Notice the news blackout about the Capitol Building invasion and everything around it? This has to mean there isn’t much “there” there, otherwise the Left would be spreading the bad news far and wide.

I hear none of the several hundred people involved have been charged with sedition or anything like that yet. What’s taking so long? It looks like a deliberate coverup to me They are trying to cover up the fact that these several hundred people aren’t very dangerous at all, they just got caught up in a situation that caused them to make some very bad decisions. That’s not the narrative the Left wants out there. They want these invaders to be terrorists, but they can’t get there from here if they are truthful.

Simon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 12, 2021 10:48 pm

 They want these invaders to be terrorists, but they can’t get there from here if they are truthful.”
Wait till the trials start. There is plenty of footage and people died. There should be no minimising this horrific event and shame on anyone for trying to. These people were nothing short of terrorists, storming a government building trying to stop a democratic process from proceeding using violence. If that was the left you guys would not be so lenient.

Mr.
Reply to  Simon
April 12, 2021 11:38 pm

Portland? Seattle?
wtf??

TonyG
Reply to  Mr.
April 13, 2021 7:42 am

Those were “justified”. And for some reason the deaths related to all that are irrelevant.

The double-standard is disgusting.

Simon
Reply to  TonyG
April 13, 2021 12:57 pm

The double-standard is disgusting.”
Exactly.

fred250
Reply to  Simon
April 13, 2021 11:43 pm

Yep thuggery by the far-left BLM, AntiFa.

And infiltration of same, into a peaceful demonstration of rightly upset people trying to bring rampant voter fraud to the day of light., so as to cause even more trouble.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Simon
April 13, 2021 3:17 pm

“There is plenty of footage and people died.”

The only people who did not d!e from natural causes on Jan6, was unarmed, Ms. Babbitt, who was shot by a Capitol Hill policeman, and the Capitol policeman who d!ed after the Jan 6, incident. No cause of death has been stated for him and noone has been charged with his death.

You are distorting the picture, Simon.

Simon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 13, 2021 3:32 pm

I am distorting nothing. The whole event was a disgusting attempt to violently subvert the democratic process. You can read here the acts of violence that took place and how those who died met their deaths. Sure only one was shot, but the large number of police (138) were injured and 1 killed. It’s is amazing how (some of)those on the right are dismissing this horrific attack as nothing out of the ordinary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_storming_of_the_United_States_Capitol#Deaths_and_injuries

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Simon
April 13, 2021 4:42 pm

You believe wiki as a source?

Here is half your problems.

Simon
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
April 13, 2021 5:35 pm

Funny how people here dismiss wiki when it doesn’t suit their mindset, but are happy to quote from it when it does. Selective quoting is a sign of dishonesty in my book.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Simon
April 13, 2021 5:50 pm

Did you look up John Sullivan yet?

Simon
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
April 13, 2021 7:53 pm

Yep. Not much to see though.

fred250
Reply to  Simon
April 13, 2021 11:54 pm

You are a LIAR.. slimy simpleton.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/14/liberal-activist-charged-capitol-riot-459553

Very much an INSTIGATOR of violence.

Simon
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
April 14, 2021 12:26 pm

There are nutters on the right and the left. Who knows what was going through this one mans head. But if you think 1 v 100’s somehow makes your point the left infiltrated the crowds to make the right look bad, then you are plainly wrong here. Just like one cool day does not mean the planet is getting colder.

TonyG
Reply to  Simon
April 14, 2021 1:32 pm

There’s those moving goalposts again, right on cue!

2hotel9
Reply to  Simon
April 14, 2021 1:48 pm

pantifa and Black Lies Matter is who broke into the Capital Building on Jan 6. Fact. You leftards are screeching lies about everything. Fact. Discussion over, you are a liar.

2hotel9
Reply to  Simon
April 14, 2021 4:28 am

The only time I quote wiki is to laugh at you leftards. wiki is totally corrupted by leftist ideology.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  2hotel9
April 15, 2021 6:56 am

Like everything.

2hotel9
Reply to  Simon
April 14, 2021 4:27 am

Yes, pantifa and Black Lies Matter are working to subvert the USG and the Democrat Party is merrily helping them do so. Good catch!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Simon
April 15, 2021 6:54 am

“Sure only one was shot, but the large number of police (138) were injured and 1 k!lled”

You are distorting the truth again, Simon. By “k!lled” you are implying the Capitol policeman’s death was not a natural one. That is what you are implying, isn’t it?

Nobody knows the cause of death of this officer yet.

Just the facts, Simon. Speculation is not the same as facts.

TonyG
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 14, 2021 7:40 am

Tom, That single incident involving a few hundred people is worse to Simon than the months of violence around the country that preceded it and the people who died as a result of that, simply because of politics. It’s a great example of political myopia.

Simon
Reply to  TonyG
April 14, 2021 4:40 pm

Please do tell how many have died as a result of the unrest by the left lately?

2hotel9
Reply to  Simon
April 14, 2021 4:43 pm

Look to Chicago, simpleton, and every other leftist shythole city in America. Those murdered by your leftist ideology pile up every day.

TonyG
Reply to  Simon
April 14, 2021 5:18 pm

Why should I bother, since you’re going to define “lately” to mean a time frame different than any example I give (i.e. move the goalposts), attack the source (ad-hominem), simply deny it, or some other crap like that, just like you always do. The info is out there if you want it, but you don’t want to accept anything contrary to what you’ve already decided. Trying to engage with you in any rational discussion is pointless.

Simon
Reply to  TonyG
April 14, 2021 7:41 pm

So the count in the last 12 months of deaths caused by political unrest by the left is?

2hotel9
Reply to  Simon
April 15, 2021 3:35 am

Answer the question, simple. You are on a computer, do your own work. Don’t forget the rapes and child molestations, the looting, the property destruction, the car jackings, the list of your crimes is quite lengthy.

TonyG
Reply to  2hotel9
April 15, 2021 7:18 am

Grauniad reports at least 25, but I’m sure Simon will find a way to ignore or avoid dealing with that. Took me 10 seconds to find, and I’m on satellite internet 🙂

And you’re right, that’s not including any of the other crimes.

Reply to  Spetzer86
April 12, 2021 11:26 am

The continuous riots by the left’s supporters are the product of an MSM that manipulates emotions for political gain, while the capital riot was an expression of no confidence in our government. The political left is certainly more afraid of the later.

Hokey Schtick
April 12, 2021 7:19 am

Australia is toast. They’ve lost their collective minds down under. Embracing the lockdown insanity and every stupid thing that comes along. Drought, fire or floods, it’s all climate change now. It’s a race to the bottom now, who can be the stupidest.

Lrp
Reply to  Hokey Schtick
April 12, 2021 12:02 pm

You’re wrong. Nobody believes a word they say, not even their friendly media. Two rich politicians and a shyster hosted and promoted by marxist media.

Hokey Schtick
April 12, 2021 7:21 am

Of course Biden and the democrats stole the election from Trump. Anyone who says that you are kidding yourself if you believe that is kidding themselves. Turnbull, what a plonker. Goldman Sachs all the way.

Jon R
Reply to  Hokey Schtick
April 12, 2021 8:59 am

We know they know we know. Every screech that comes out of their commie holes confirms that.

D Cage
Reply to  Hokey Schtick
April 12, 2021 10:52 pm

All we can say for certain is something untoward went on in the voting. Are you sure it was democrats rather than a non politically affiliated group that saw Trump as an opponent and the Democrats as having their agenda? I have a second g mail address with a common name and a five digit number and got sent an email from what appeared to be a member of a branch of a climate extinction or similar group including articles pointing to methods of rigging votes. It was clearly not intended for me but with two digits altered from a distribution list in it. Unfortunately I did not keep it as I did not take it seriously and believed the US voting system was sounder than ours here in the UK and as it was on a small SSD cannot recover it. Trump is the only world leader that did not swallow the man made climate lie after all and this email did say he must be removed for the good of the world no matter what it took to do so.

Craig from Oz
April 12, 2021 7:25 am

In all seriousness there needs to be a formal inquiry into Kevin Rudd and his attempts to influence the free media.

Rudd – he should remember – is an EX Prime Minister. He got booted, first by his own party, then returned out of fear after the Gillard disaster, and then booted again by his own party.

He currently represents a group of people who can be identified by the fact they use the same postal address, and deep down we know his wife wears the pants so he might actually represent even less.

So this ONE MAN is running around demanding the actions of News Corp be formally brought to task. Tell me Kevin, which laws has News Corp broken? Actually don’t tell me, tell the police – State or Federal as required – and have the carry out an investigation and make arrests.

If not then you are grossly abusing your past history in an attempt to oppress international media, and basically just because they won’t blow smoke up your arse.

Rudd is abusing his position. He is one man who has failed at public life and is now reduced to crying on twitter and trying to sell used tennis balls from his cringe attempts to youtube himself playing handball in his garage. He he doesn’t like News Corp and their market share he could go and double subscribe to the rivals, not attempt a to start a witchhunt.

It is he who should be invested and if required, charged.

fred250
Reply to  Craig from Oz
April 12, 2021 1:26 pm

The fact that you have two narcissistic truds joining with mickey mann tells you all you need to know about Rudd and Turnbull.

The LOWEST FORM OF HUMAN EXCREMENT in existence, side by side..

Steve Case
April 12, 2021 7:36 am

“Given the smell of desperation coming from Mann, Rudd and Turnbull, I think we can safely say they are not acting like people who believe they are winning.”

Eric, They are winning, and they are winning big time. The Cheerleaders/High priests of Global Warming, Climate Change, The Climate Crisis or whatever they are calling it, are firmly in control and will be for a long time in the future. The future is ugly.

4caster
Reply to  Steve Case
April 12, 2021 8:06 am

I agree completely with this assessment. With half the baby boomers and most of the succeeding generations spoiled from their upbringing, brainwashed, and now marxist due to the constant assault from the leftist ideology of academia, culture, and the media, this is only going to get much worse. Anyone who speaks against the prevailing worldview will be cancelled, and people know this, so they refrain from speaking out or taking action. I believe that even if a new ice age looms in the next couple of decades (which I don’t subscribe to), it’ll be attributed to “the climate crisis,” such is the inculcation that has successfully been perpetrated by the marxists (I refuse to give them a capital M). The half of the post-WWII generation that is somewhat conservative will be dying off in the next 20-30 years, so the marxists will have that going for them as well. I absolutely do not feel that Mann et al. are in any way feeling panicked or are desperate; they are desperate in the sense of needing to win, and they are doubling and tripling down on their efforts because they sense a huge victory. The Trump presidency was a shock and wake-up call to them, and they are now in the process of consolidating their U.S. 2020 victory in such a way that their will be no more Trump-like speed bumps in the future. What they’re not counting on is China…

Gary Pearse
April 12, 2021 7:40 am

So, boys and girls, you close down Murdoch news and what news remains. For bonus marks, the following question: where does Murdoch/Fox’s billions come from? Well, they consistently top all ratings in viewership, which, for those who didn’t transcend their marxbrothers’ education, means most news watchers in America and Australia tune in Murdoch’s product. Murdoch doesn’t have to hold his hand out for alms like the Guardian-type newsy pewsie outlets.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Gary Pearse
April 13, 2021 3:21 pm

“So, boys and girls, you close down Murdoch news and what news remains.”

All that remains is propaganda and a few truthteller crying in the wilderness.

That’s why I watch as much Fox News as I can, plus I like being well-informed.

We don’t want to throw the baby out with the bath water.

fretslider
April 12, 2021 7:43 am

Some say there’s a looming Oxygen crisis

These guys just got another gulp

bonbon
April 12, 2021 7:43 am

¨Storming the Capitol¨ ???
If you call the actor dressed as a caveman a rioter!
That character turns up at rallies regularly – obviously a psy-op.

Still, the effect had its intent – a stolen election.

Fox did support Trump, but they fell in line with rabid China-bashing even after Trump met with Xi Jinpnig at Mare Largo, and the welcome he got in Beijing.
Murdoch and Fox take their orders from London’s Henry Jackson society as does Pompeo.
Witness the fawning wannabee Trump clone BoJo, now the Biden door-mat.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
April 12, 2021 9:23 am

BoJo may be suffering from some of that post-Wuhan virus brain fog.

I don’t know what Biden’s excuse is. It’s not just getting old, he’s had crazy ideas for his entire career in politics.

Davidf
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 12, 2021 2:38 pm

There is a very crude expression for a middle aged man who has lost his reason over a younger woman. Boris is a classic example

Abolition Man
April 12, 2021 7:46 am

The corporate Communist elite must’ve gotten word that we’re heading into an extended cooling cycle! They have to get ALL their plans and schemes implemented before it becomes obvious to all but the most devout Climastrology believers that “global warming” is a myth and a scam; one to be longed for in a cooling world with failing crops and wars for resources!

Curious George
April 12, 2021 7:49 am

Free speech is a greatest threat to democracy.

(a fake quote from J.V.Stalin)

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Curious George
April 12, 2021 9:24 am

I bet Stalin thought that, though.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 12, 2021 10:12 am

More than thought it I think

59A06902-25B9-454F-9F74-D3320B119245.jpeg
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
April 12, 2021 11:08 am

I will never be able to look at the photos of people with their hands in a heart shape as before–thanks for destroying a photo icon!

TonyG
Reply to  Curious George
April 12, 2021 1:12 pm

But a real quote from NYT (or maybe it was WaPo) a couple weeks ago.

LdB
Reply to  Curious George
April 13, 2021 8:25 am

That is fake like Xi he preferred no speak just do as I say or else.

CD in Wisconsin
April 12, 2021 7:53 am

“It’s controlled by an American family and their interests are no longer, if they ever were, coextensive with our own.”

**************

Big Brother does not tolerate dissent here in the real world any more than he did in Orwell’s Nineteen-Eighty-Four. As I have said in the past, it is not a matter of whether there is a constitutional guarantee of a free press here in the U.S. and elsewhere. It is a matter of who is in control of and is doing the (self) censoring in the mass media….and why.

The climate alarmist narrative represents a very effective means for the pursuit of power, money and control over economies and energy infrastructure in particular. Nothing must be allowed to threaten it. It isn’t a matter of whether the CAGW theory is scientifically sound or not. No, it is simply a matter of making the public believe in it. The theory is just a means to an end. Being in control of the dissemination of information is absolutely vital to that end, and most if not all dictators and police states demonstrate an understanding of that. Think North Korea.

As Tom Nelson says many times on his Twitter page, “This isn’t about the climate, is it?” The warning George Orwell left behind with his novel is more important today than ever.

Jim
April 12, 2021 8:00 am

In 2007 the prediction was that Australia would see unprecedented bush fires.

In 1974-1975 there were about 120 Million hectares burned. That’s the precedent.

In 2019-2020, there were about 19 Million hectares burned.

The 2007 prediction has been falsified, no unprecedented bush fires occurred.

Trying to Play Nice
April 12, 2021 8:02 am

Why is it that every time I see a picture of Michael Mann I feel like my IQ went down a few points?

Jon R
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
April 12, 2021 8:57 am

Intelligence black holes are now observable phenomenon.

saveenergy
Reply to  Jon R
April 12, 2021 10:49 am

Can’t say ‘black holes’ in woke world !

it’s ‘holes of colour

Insufficiently Sensitive
April 12, 2021 8:05 am

It is News Corp. And it’s utterly unaccountable,” Mr Turnbull said.

Didn’t know Mr. Turnbull was such an autocrat. Michael Mann, sure, he abuses the American court system, but if he joins those other two clowns in an attempt to shut up critical news media, he needs reminding that he is not the Word of God, and that he’s no better than anyone else despite all his sloppy kisses from the NYT.

LdB
Reply to  Insufficiently Sensitive
April 13, 2021 8:28 am

Turnbull has got worse, he is now like Rudd a dribbling fool but on the positive note perhaps we can go ship him off to the UN he would fit right in.

Michael in Dublin
April 12, 2021 8:10 am

Democracy is grossly overrated. Consider the leaders it produces. There is confused Joe Biden, who is clearly becoming senile and a political puppet. Then there is the unfunny clown Boris Johnson and his political circus. We need honest, hard working, principled and competent leaders who earn the respect of supporters and opponents through responsible governance.

Last edited 3 months ago by Michael in Dublin
Tom Abbott
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
April 12, 2021 9:28 am

Biden is definitely going to harm the U.S. He’s already doing so. Biden is doing just exactly the opposite of what he should be doing. This can be expected from delusional leftists. That’s why we should’t give leftists political power. It’s like handing a two-year-old child a can of gasoline and a match. Bad things are going to happen.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
April 12, 2021 9:48 am

Michael,
Here in the US we are supposed to have a constitutional republic, not a democracy! Our founders in their great wisdom viewed democracy as little more than mob rule which inevitably fails once the 51% majority realizes they can vote themselves a pay raise at the 49%’s expense!

What the modern era is teaching us rather emphatically is that even the US system can be subverted when the populace is made fearful and ignorant! Since the Climastrology scam wasn’t scaring many any more, the PTB hit on the Fauxi virus developed by the ChiComs to instill the needed fear level! Future generations will likely see an unending string of viral variants and mandatory vaccines; at least until the proper controls are in place and they can get serious about population reduction!

If our education system had not been intentionally sabotaged by the Progressives, most Americans wouldn’t be falling for the CAGW scam OR voting DemoKKKrat! Bothe require high levels of ignorance or stupidity!

DMacKenzie
April 12, 2021 8:13 am

In their view, AGW sceptics are detrimental to the strategy they have developed to win votes from the pilgrim masses with a goal of taking over the economy and banking system and install their central planning system, which they are certain will result in a better future for all, especially with them in charge. If they can destroy the credibility of a media outlet that promotes scepticism, they are going to attempt it.

Tom Abbott
April 12, 2021 8:17 am

From the article: “If there is a genuine current threat to democracy, that threat is the growing obsession establishment liberals appear to have with shutting down the voices of people who disagree with them, whether that disagreement be political policy or climate science.”

There’s no “if” about it. The Left is definitely out to shut up everyone who disagrees with them. They don’t want debate, they want conformity to their view of the world.

Gyan1
April 12, 2021 8:34 am

Cancel culture censorship is by far the biggest threat to Democracy I have witnessed.

tygrus
April 12, 2021 8:35 am

Personality & personal popularity are not the cause of disapproval. Voters consider the policies & trustworthiness.

There are valid concerns regarding Turnbull’s existing business & family interests causing conflicts of interest for him.

A by-election was announced after the Turnbull decision was made. When they heard Turnball was back, many liberal/national voters were quick to respond & most of those would have without encouragement from the Murdoch associated media. The sitting members were getting complaints. Internal polling would be quick to show the Turnbull factor would loose them the by-election. The recent WA state election showed the voters don’t want conservatives trying to out green the Greens.

The power of the media is greatly exaggerated. Many people are now influenced by celebrities & online social media not controlled by Murdoch or any other family. The Murdoch voting control of News Corp was quoted as 39%. Many News across ownership may also be shared with others so Murdoch’s power & control is diluted. He’s not checking every story, not selecting headlines. Most people see/hear/read from multiple sources outside Murdoch control. It’s not a monopoly of controlling the public, otherwise we would see >90% vote for a single party.

Consider the small group(s) that control Getup or environmental groups. These may offer their members options to choose but members don’t control those lists. Only a few get to set their political agenda & members can only vote “yes” or do nothing, there is no way to vote “No” inside these groups. Unions have been like this too (members disagreeing with leaders are ostracised/attacked) with very powerful marketing to their members & the public.

I don’t agree with everything I hear, see & read. I have a brain & can make reasoned choices. Unlike some who disagree with me, I don’t rely on “being told what to think” & I don’t rely on emotions & popularity.

Those that disagree can change the channel, change newspaper, write letters or protest in a park or footpath. Free speech means I must let you have the same opportunity to disagree with me. If I can hire a venue or pay for advertising, then you can too at your expense. If I’m free to write or call, you can too. If the Murdoch’s et. al. can own media companies, you & your friends can too. There’s many people who disagree with the Murdoch’s who have the money to do so if they wanted too. Check the actual ownership & viewership of 7,9,10,2,SBS & radio stations. Rudd et. al. can readily get signatures on a partition so where’s the problem?

Last edited 3 months ago by tygrus
Reply to  tygrus
April 12, 2021 10:03 am

The power of the media is greatly exaggerated. Many people are now influenced by celebrities & online social media not controlled by Murdoch or any other family.

What’s the source of these “celebreties opinion” ? Right, they read it in the media.

Last edited 3 months ago by Krishna Gans
Hoyt Clagwell
April 12, 2021 8:59 am

The liberals in America are redefining words in Orwellian fashion now more than ever. “Infrastructure” and “bipartisan” being the latest. One must understand that liberals define the word “democracy” as “democrat rule”. Any time something threatens democrat rule, they shout that democracy is being undermined. Yet when a truly democratic vote goes against their agenda, the liberals couldn’t give a bleep about democracy.

Jon R
April 12, 2021 9:06 am

They can have fix news. Not a popular opinion with some nevertheless it’s my truth.

Mark Pawelek
April 12, 2021 9:23 am

I wish

RelPerm
April 12, 2021 9:55 am

Climate Alarmists do not like people saying things like none of their predictions come true, even if that is true. 

I have an idea, let’s eliminate the first amendment. Who needs free speech anyways. After we get rid of amendment one and two, let’s eliminate the bill of rights. Those pesky ten amendments never meant much and might all have systemic racist roots. 

I’m all for change, especially if it’s being pushed by climate change alarmists. God bless Joe Biden and hypocrite henchman John Kerry too!

Pat from Kerbob
April 12, 2021 10:05 am

I think it is a step forward to describe Piltdown Mann as an activist instead of scientist.

I mean, if truth in media is the goal, that is a start?

Charlie
April 12, 2021 10:15 am

No Mr Turnbull, Sky News is free to campaign for whatever it wants to. It is people like you, who may wish to suppress Sky News, that are the threat to democracy.

Komeradecube
April 12, 2021 10:33 am

Projection.

Joel O'Bryan
April 12, 2021 10:37 am

The Cancel Culture in the Climate Propoganda War is intensifying.
Facebook got away with Censoring the Hunter Biden laptop story done by New York Post to protect Dementia Joe during the campaign last Fall.

The Climate Liars like Mann have seen BigTech like YouTube and Twitter take down any video that questions the COIVD “consensus”, so now these climate liars, and cheats like Michael Mann want Big Tech to take down FoxNews from thier paltforms and webhosting services for having people like Mark Morano on talking about the Climate Hoax.

If they can get that done to FoxNews, no internet blog is safe from the Cancel Culture liars.

WR2
April 12, 2021 11:11 am

I don’t think they understand what democracy is. In democracy, you don’t need activism, demonstrations, riots, etc to bend people to your will…the people’s will is demonstrated through the vote. These people are actually the threats to democracy.

LdB
Reply to  WR2
April 13, 2021 8:46 am

They don’t want just that they want to make climate denial a crime punishable by imprisonment … Mike Mann openly states that.

ResourceGuy
April 12, 2021 11:19 am

Mann would make a nice export item but Australia is to nice a place for that, or was.

Climate believer
April 12, 2021 11:36 am

I sometimes catch a bit of Sky Australia on youtube, my god what a breath of fresh air.
Alan Jones makes me smile 🙂

john
April 12, 2021 12:16 pm

And I thought the riots were all President Trump’s fault. At least that’s what the Goebbels/Pravda media told us.

Carlo, Monte
April 12, 2021 12:20 pm

Without the beard and only that ’stache, Mickey Mann looks like Pancho Villa now.

Dmacleo
April 12, 2021 12:25 pm

opposing voices are a threat to democracy.

huh.

LdB
Reply to  Dmacleo
April 13, 2021 8:37 am

“War is peace,” “Freedom is slavery,” and “Ignorance is strength.”
George Orwell from the book 1984

S.K.
April 12, 2021 12:38 pm

Repressive regressive Progressives do what they know best. Repressing and regressing.

The real threat is the Great Reset and the man caused global warming dogma is a cornerstone of that socialist threat.

Richard M
Reply to  S.K.
April 12, 2021 2:03 pm

I now refer to them as “Cancel Culture Progressives” (CCP). And yes, CCP == CCP.

fred250
April 12, 2021 1:09 pm

In Australia, the ABC has far more outlets than the Murdoch Media.

Just not as many people listening to the ABC. 😉

Last edited 3 months ago by fred250
LdB
Reply to  fred250
April 13, 2021 8:34 am

ABC has the show Q&A which most of the dropkicks on it should need a license or a dog muzzle or both. If we are going to start with media banning that would be a good place to start.

ResourceGuy
April 12, 2021 1:55 pm

It’s a good thing there aren’t any real issues in Australia. They would not get worked on with this bunch.

Mike Maguire
April 12, 2021 2:27 pm

A person claiming that they are not convinced that Biden won the election fair and square obliterates that persons objective credibility for me. I’m not saying there was no fraud because there obviously was but I spent 2 months on my forum investigating every iota of data and every allegation I found(many of them concocted or distorted) and am convinced the data clearly shows that Biden won by any reasonable objective standard. The bigger problem that I have is not with the real voting fraud…..I have tons of individual cases but with so many proven false allegations of fraud that never happened. Entities trying to find the truth do not make up lies to get there. We were promised that the evidence was there but they never delivered it(if I’m wrong, then show it to us right now). They only repeated that it was there hundreds and hundreds of times for 2 months until people, just believed it. This is how you brainwash people. This actually, is why so many people believe in the fake climate crisis. 3 decades of telling us there is a climate crisis and after awhile, people assume that it must be so…………..without ever seeing the actual authentic evidence(extreme weather that has always happened and simulations of a future atmosphere 100 years from now is ZERO evidence of a climate crisis)
However, this is real evidence………….of the current climate optimum:

Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth

These people are trying to connect groups that believe the election was stolen….which we can verify that it wasn’t……….. with the belief that there is no climate crisis. Don’t let them do it. One belief is totally wrong and the other one is totally right.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Mike Maguire
April 12, 2021 3:26 pm

What is your rational explanation for early-morning spikes of tens of thousands of votes that all went to Zhou Bai-Den, and in one state, that happened after counting mail-in ballots had supposedly been halted several hours earlier?

What is your explanation for blocks of votes that were subtracted from Pres. Trump and ended up in the Bai-Den total? Negative votes makes sense to you?

Why do the voting systems store votes as floating-point numbers instead of integers?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
April 15, 2021 7:20 am

“Why do the voting systems store votes as floating-point numbers instead of integers?”

That’s a good question. I want to know how that 0.5 voter voted.

chickenhawk
Reply to  Mike Maguire
April 12, 2021 6:30 pm

“A person claiming that they are not convinced that Biden won the election fair and square obliterates that persons objective credibility for me.”

Here’s just a couple of thoughts. Most of these elections have not had a thorough investigation. They need a complete audit. Most of this election evidence is required to be held for a year at least. Was any of it destroyed? If it was, then fraud is the answer in my book. How about changing election laws in violation of the US Constitution? Violation of law in my book, not fair and square. Blocking poll watchers from actually doing there job. Yes once again, and in my opinion, should be grounds to declare fraud. Blocking investigations and audits. Yes, and again should be enough to declare fraud. Kicking poll watchers out to count more ballots. Yes, and again should be grounds to declare fraud. Maybe the laws aren’t tough enough and the penalties not severe enough. People involved in running elections should be held to higher standard. Given these events, the appearance of impropriety should be enough to invalidate enough D votes to change the elections.

April 12, 2021 6:45 pm

Mann, Rudd, and Turnbull are three major dangers to and opponents of Democracy.

Pat from kerbob
April 12, 2021 8:01 pm

There are many threats to democracy, always will be, but doubtless the worst currently come from the left. Here in canada we haven’t had a budget in two years, so many things suspended, no accountability.

And the worst part is that a surprising number seem to approve of these actions.

Maybe we really are too stupid to live

Dennis
April 12, 2021 9:18 pm

Grandiose Narcissism

Patrick MJD
April 12, 2021 9:45 pm

Three cretins all in a row! Rudd and Turncoat were disasters for Australia.

D Cage
April 12, 2021 10:16 pm

I have counted a thousand article telling us I must believe climate change is man made without a single on having any of the key words required to include any explanation and examined a huge number to confirm none are included by error. I read what amounts to a training guide written by Goebbels or someone in his group and this level of brainwashing is a total rejection of democracy in his estimation. Surely if I am wrong that climate scientists are total anal orifices without the ability of an eleven year old of my generation I should have the right to ask my questions publicly and get answers as to why I am wrong not just be told I must believe.

A few days ago I took a photo of or lawn and a new patch of grass was totally clear of snow while the remainder was admittedly lightly but totally covered. I measured the temperatures with an infra red thermometer and there was between 0.7 and 1.3 degrees difference between newer and established grass. This shows any reading over grass is not usable as reference data for any purpose where better than a degree or so accuracy is required or double that for comparing two values.

Surely it ought to be a legal right to have questions like this answered not to get an abusive and offensive label like denier for making a simple observation.

ozspeaksup
April 13, 2021 3:31 am

the three stooges!
and ones a bloody ringer !
stand in Mann for flimflam?

2hotel9
April 13, 2021 3:35 am

Funny how anyone telling the truth is such a problem for the left.

April 13, 2021 2:46 pm

CNN on the other hand is total professional impartiality

https://youtu.be/Dv8Zy-JwXr4

shortie of greenbank
April 13, 2021 4:17 pm

So something you have to pay for directly is the politically most powerful rather than something you pay far more for in taxes that is broadcast to every home for ‘free’?

Clive
April 14, 2021 5:19 am

Turnbull was responsible for the Guardian opening in Australia. Pravda on Thames.

%d bloggers like this: