Guest essay by Eric Worrall
The volcano on the Caribbean Island of St Vincent has erupted. Cruise liners and Ferries are rushing to the scene to evacuate people caught by the eruption – but people are not allowed to board the cruise liners until they receive a Covid vaccination.
Caribbean’s St Vincent island volcano erupts after 16,000 people evacuated
Posted Yesterday at 1:37am, updated Yesterday at 2:03am
An explosive eruption of the La Soufriere volcano in the Caribbean has rocked the island of St Vincent following mandatory evacuation orders from the local government.
More than 16,000 residents had been evacuated as volcanic activity increased ahead of the eruption, which took place on Friday morning local time.
Evacuees have been given temporary homes on cruise ships and in safer parts of the island.
Evacuees told to get vaccinated
The new eruption followed mandatory evacuation orders issued on Thursday for people who lived near the volcano.
The pandemic could hamper evacuation efforts.
Prime Minister Ralph Gonsalves said in a press conference that people had to be vaccinated if they went aboard a cruise ship or were granted temporary refuge on another island.
He said two Royal Caribbean cruise ships were expected to arrive by Friday and a third one in the coming days, as well as two Carnival cruise ships by Friday.
…Read more: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-10/caribbean-island-st-vincent-volcano-erupts-16-000-evacuated/100060486
I don’t blame the rescuers – they are doing the right thing, putting their very expensive ships in danger to rescue people. Volcanic ash could easily cause millions of dollars worth of damage just by landing on the ships, or by getting sucked into the engine air intakes. So they deserve recognition for their courage and compassion.
What I blame is the world’s obsession with Covid.
In normal circumstances people are just evacuated from a deadly disaster zones, nobody refuses anyone because they might be sick. Sick people are given medical attention if required.
But because the world has become obsessed with a disease which kills up to 1% of victims, there is a real possibility that people fleeing a natural disaster will be told they have to stay and die, unless they receive an experimental and potentially life threatening medication.
As I said, not the rescuers fault – they are the meat in the sandwich. If they don’t insist on vaccination, their reward for compassion and heroism could be to be stuck in the ocean, nobody willing to take the evacuated islanders.
But the other islands accepting the refugees and insisting on vaccination should have a good hard look in the mirror. By all means keep the rescued people in isolation. But putting rescuers in a position where they feel they have to refuse help to people fleeing a deadly disaster who have not received the Covid jab, even people at high risk of severe complications from the vaccine – in my opinion that is just wrong.
The following is a video from DW.
Update (EW): Click here to see a speech from Dr. Ralph Gonsalves, Prime Minister of St Vincent and the Grenadines, saying that people who are not vaccinated will not be accepted by other countries (almost exactly one hour into the interview, 59:05).
Update (EW): h/t Justin Birch, S.K. From The Gateway Pundit – Royal Caribbean has stated they will not refuse unvaccinated people, but they will do their best to make sure people are vaccinated so they can receive refuge. Given things could get complicated for Royal Caribbean if people once onboard refuse vaccination, IMO this is a pretty selfless act.
I thought it took a while for the vaccine to start working…..so how long are they going to have to hang around before they can be evacuated
Health expert says vaccine requires time to build antibodies
A couple of weeks. Perhaps longer. Not the vaccine pe se, but time for the immune system to reach a critical threshold (e.g. antibodies) in response to the stimulation. In the meantime, there are effective, inexpensive therapeutics (e.g. HCQ, Ivermectin) to mitigate disease progression and transmission.
Molten Lava and Pyroclastic clouds are also good at curing SARS-CoV-2.
1000C fever will do that.
I was going to comment along some similar lines but you guys beat me to it. So I will take the moral high-road and say that’s a little rough.
The whole thing is just stupid. The volcano had been giving plenty of warning that it was going to erupt. The St. Vincent people had plenty of warning, and this eruption was expected. They could have done an evac run much sooner without all this BS.
There are plenty of people visiting the Iceland volcano, first two vents were named Bob and Flo by YouTube watchers (not the Icelanders), and now there are two more vents, because Bob the Baby volcano sits on the mid-Atlantic rift over a very hot spot. The entertainment of volcano watching will keep Icelanders busy with tourist traffic for a while. Fortunately, it’s not an explosive event, but rather, mostly burp-and-flow.
The tours to the volcano(es) have been going on for the past 2 (almost 3) weeks now and are increasing. No one is wearing masks or worrying about Covid-19. I don’t know – no statistics – how many people taking the tours are visitors from other countries, but the volcano tourist business is thriving and no one is being ostracized for a runny nose.
I’m more than a little puzzled as to why the governor didn’t take precautions earlier for evacuations, since the volcano has been quivering and quaking for a while, well ahead of this eruption, and showing signs of blowing off. And there are plenty of other volcanoes burping all over the world. Check Volcano Discovery for a list. Etna is burping and sneezing and has been for the past two years.
Here’s a link to the list of currently active volcanoes. https://volcano.si.edu/gvp_currenteruptions.cfm
Even Toba, that Blast From the Past, which hasn’t erupted in 74,000 years and gave us an ice age when she did blow her stack, is trembling. While Toba may not do anything in my lifetime, don’t say you weren’t warned. 🙂
And people who were warned well ahead and refused to evacuate when Mt. St. Helens was fixing to make a profound statement (You Puny Hoomans!!!) are no longer with us.
The point? The hysterics surrounding this seem to be about “show”, NOT “go”, whereas Iceland’s tourist business is thriving and no one is worried about Covid iinfections. Icelanders must be better at planning things.
Sara, you are right about volcanos giving eruption warnings, but there are two factors that make a response difficult. The first is the tendency to consider all potential eruptions to be similar to previous ones, either from the same magma chamber or from similar ones along the volcanic chain, and the second is the reluctance of goverment officials to be wrong, like advise an evacuation and the volcano calms down. As a geologist and a licensed Air Traffic Controller I was living in Reno, Nevada when Mt St. Helens was waking up, and then not erupting but continuing to give off warning signals. A delayed eruption from a moderate tendency volcano is a danger sign that pressures are increasing instead of being relieved. The north-side bulging really was an alarm signal, so I dutifully alerted the FAA to issue a NOTAM (Notice To Airmen) about not flying over St Helens at night or not flying close on the downwind side. The FAA rejected my advice, stating that they relied on experts from the USGS for advice and the USGS said it would be a andesite flow eruption if it ever got started.
“andesite flow…” Yes, I do remember that pronouncement and instead it was a big KABOOM!!!! It seems to me that all the volcanoes in the Cascades are quivering these days.
When Pinatubo was throwing out warning signals, Clark AF Base in the Philippines was near enough to be damaged and the base was evacuated properly.
Yellowstone is building a dome under its spot but probably won’t do anything for a long while. Seems like all the hot spots are getting busier and hotter and yet…. there’s nothing to report about the end of the world until it really happens.
I can understand not wanting to jump the gun on evacuating people, but whatever that governor decided to do, it was not well thought out at all.
The official view is, there is no medical cure against COV-19, only vaccination will help.
The big question is, why existing, proved medication isn’t accepted.
They’re not proved in the eyes of authorities. But still can be used under off-label or emergency use application.
Do you really think the drug companies will allow a very cheap, off-patent drug to cut into their profits? The same companies that admit to creating a disease called “restless leg syndrome” just to sell a drug. The same drug companies that bribe the health authorities and doctors all over the world with lavish gifts and “information seminars” in beautiful, exotic locations.
The drug companies are allowing countries like Peru, Bangladesh and others to use cheap treatments, usually ivermectin. What power do they have over rich countries that they don’t seem to have over poorer countries? Why haven’t I heard Doris or any other western leader talk about ivermectin, why are we being herded towards an untested vaccine, why are outspoken doctors, immunologists, virologists etc silenced by Twitter, Facebook etc. Most of the public are completely unaware of dissenting Voices because they are sidelined. Death toll exaggerated, no flu, no strokes, heart attacks etc etc every death is a covid death. PCR tests with CT of 45 not worth a t*SS. Why is the success of countries using ivermectin not being shouted from the roof tops. Our leaders are ignoring known treatments and pushing untested vaccines for a desease that 99.97% survive and the average age of death is 82. This whole debacle stinks to high heaven, so I won’t be having any needles. Rant over.
They are pushing the fake vaccines because they can create a cascade of future effects and claim it’s a “variant” or another novel virus that does other horrible things like autoimmune diseases and such.
Pathogen priming by these jabs can make people more likely to get sick and become sicker than normal or even die. They will blame it all on phantom viruses and their attitude will be is that the human immune system has failed (falsely blamed on climate change or pollution) and only technology can save use. They are already talking about future jabs every three or six months to cover the “variants” as they arise.
I love the claim of these new C-19 strains. How do they identify a new strain when they never isolated and cultured Covid19 in the first place? One researcher (clown) has claimed to have found 14,000+ strains of this virus. It is freaking impossible for one lab to isolate, culture, and sequence that many in a few months. A huge joke.
Lambs to the slaughter??
Power over politician$, maybe?
$ seem to have power over a lot of people, but some are more easily bought.
Because those countries aren’t where the big money is. Simple. Plus it gives people a straw man to use against arguments that come from fact instead of emotion.
Restless leg syndrome is not a disease. It’s a syndrome. Now, if you want to criticize a “disease”, go with dry eye disease. These conditions are real. Whether or not they merit drugging oneself is another question.
Are we gouverned by drug companies ?
There are several oaths, by docs, the gouvernements.
I don’t see they follow their oaths.
IMO the drug companies are dictating governments how to act and how to behave. Let us call it “Medical Terror”?
All honest medics when protesting are being silenced right away!
I think you are right but calling it a big question I think could be an understatement.
More to the point, WHY are people being denied the choice to use safe, effective, inexpensive therapeutics?
WHY isn’t the right to life saving medical treatment a basic human right enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights? Note other glaring omissions from the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Right-the right to question a narrative without fear of persecution and the right to legal redress in the event of injury that is not your fault.
If you add how wokeness, political correctness and cancel culture flagrantly trample basic human rights, is it any wonder that many are calling out “Conspiracy.”
People are not being denied treatment!
3 states in Aus have effectively banned docs from prescribing hq for anything fines and other penalties and the AMA is behind it
Too big of a question for me. Ivermectin and HCL have a high efficacy when used to mitigate Covid symptoms as per the numerous scientific studies performed. My local MD has treated most covid symptoms with HCL with great success. Don’t understand why the authorities would not utilize safe readily available drugs while aggressively pushing a vaccine that has not gone through proper testing protocol.
It’s very simple. The only way they could get emergency approval of a untested, never-approved, never-successfil, experimental medical device falsely described as a vaccine is only if there are no effective therapeutics. So, hydroxychloroquine + zinc and Invermectin and vitamins C and D and cheap asthma inhalers had to be quashed to allow this Big Pharma bonanza and worldwide human experiment. Nuremberg.
False. there are well known and effective treatments that have successfully reduced deaths.
The reason they ignore any alternative treatment, is because they could not use the Emergency Use Authorization scheme for the gene therapy, if any other treatments exist. BTW, the patents for the 2 main vaccines that are not vaccines classify them as “gene therapy”.
The Emergency Use Authorization is how they got around the lack of human trial testing. Hopefully that explains the scheme, and answers your question.
Which two vaccines are patented as gene therapy? Thanks.
The Pfizer and the Moderna shots are mRNA gene therapy. On their websites, they are described as “operating systems.”
“are effective, inexpensive therapeutics (e.g. HCQ, Ivermectin) to mitigate disease progression and transmission.”
Boy, that one statement will get you banned from at least 20 popular websites. This whole mess is bringing to the forefront just how bad our political process is in our supposedly “democratic” countries. RCT’s are showing Ivermectin in early and prophylactic use works extremely well along with just plain results. The other side of vaccinations are the spike of covid cases due to all the people cramming into one place to get the vaccine. Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.
One Mexican state’s experience with Ivermectin (the only one to widely distribute it to their population for treatment). Pretty convincing to me.
As the mRNA is not for any specific virus, because they have never isolated the virus, the fake vaccines are only designed to cause an immune response. There is nothing measurable that the antibodies have anything to do with the mythical target virus, again because they never isolated and cultured the virus. It’s a joke. There efficacy numbers are also a joke, particularly when they then turn around and say it might not work against even a closely-related strain (aka, variant)—double speak for knowing that it does not work.
I think one can find a few papers now that describe culturing, as well as some degree of isolation of SARS-CoV-2.
It doesn’t take long for one to feel the side effects of the OAZ
It’s akin to a heavy bout of flu like symptoms that last up to 48 hours after the jab. It’s fair to say you feel like crap.
Outstanding. So its possible those who recently were jabbed may experience side-effects, and while they are on the ships they now become the cruise line’s problem.
I know folks, including me and wife, that got 2 shots and had no reaction with either. Zip, zero – – not even a sore arm. That’s the norm for most healthy people.
The norm for most healthy people to COVID-19 is a full recovery too. Just because hospitals lie and count people as a COVID deaths does not make it so. Even the US CDC admits the death count in inflated and not accurate. Source: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e2.htm
We are living in a time where corruption is the norm, throughout all of our institutions. It seems the rule has become; be crooked, if you can make more money.
Six people I know have died or been permanently maimed by this “vaccine”.
That would seem to be quite unusual. Care to expound?
He can’t coz it’s not true.
For the Pfizer trial, actually over 80% experience some kind of adverse effect. See section 4.2.6 in the following.
Your link does not support your claim:
“The frequency of serious adverse events was low (<0.5%)”
“there were no notable patterns or numerical imbalances between treatment groups for specific categories of non-serious adverse events”
“Some kind of adverse effect” does not mean “Zip, zero” nor only “serious.”
“Some kind of adverse effect” includes all effects from mild to moderate to severe.
Yup, same here. No sore arm, though I was quite fatigued after the second shot (Pfizer). I can’t claim that it was the vaccine, however. Being retired, I have a bizarre sleep schedule.
What I hate is that, regardless of vaccination status, everyone in my state is still required to wear the damn mask – which does absolutely nothing, other than satisfy the Mask Nazis.
I haven’t yet been vaccinated, but my wife has, and she felt no ill effects at all, not even a sore arm.
Come back to us in 10 years
“Come back to us in 10 years”
What a lame argument that is. Come back to us with anything in 10 years. 70 million vaccinated in the US and not one death.
6 that I personally know of have died or have permanent side effects. Just keep repeating the propaganda. Jeesh
So you personally know six people in the US who have died from the vaccination? Bolllocks.
“Over 167 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through April 5, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 2,794 reports of death (0.00167%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS.
Two previously healthy people who have died and four who are maimed, loss of hearing, paralysis, etc.
Really? Well obviously nobody told the CDC.
Would you tell Adolf Eichmann about deaths in concentration camps…NO
My parents both had the OAZ jab, and are due to get second dose this week. One had no reaction to first dose, other got the tiredness – stay in bed for a day. I fully expected to be exposed to the Wuhan coronavirus last year, but with a frigid Britain being close to herd immunity now, I choose not to be a lab-rat myself.
This story is largely BS. Or at least totally misrepresented.
Those fleeing to ferries are NOT being required to show vaccination. Indeed vaccine supplies only reached St Vincent two days before the eruption, so the number of people vaccinated is minimal, making any such restriction meaningless.
What is very worrying is that there is even a suggestion of this kind of mentality in the local govt. and some kind of order in that sense were issued.
Aside from that, this event could be interesting for climate study. It’s been hard to find any clear data on how high the plume went or what the VEI rating was. I’ve read 6km, 8km, 10km and 12km. It seems to be some kind if journalistic bidding game.
However, it looks like a stratospheric event reasonable close to the equator and maybe the largest such event since Mt P.
With better radiation measurements in place this will be a great chance to reevaluate the climate “forcing” of volcanic aerosols. This is one of the key frig factors in climate models which is deliberately exaggerated since this allows to exaggerate GHG forcing and still remain close to the historical record, since the two oppose each other.
This “trick” started with Hansen et al 2005 when they abandoned their physical modelling and started arbitrarily tweaking everything they could to “reconcile” model output with the 1960-1990 climate record. This led to a 30% increase in volcanic forcing and a high climate sensitivity to CO2.
Radiation budget data from this event may well allow a better estimation of climate sensitivity.
Latitude – This article goes into my file labelled, ‘Just How Stupid Can a Bureaucrat Get?’
You are right.
This forced vaccination is an instance of what usually we call “blackmail”.
Blackmail involves money. This is called coersion : equally serious crime.
It’s complete rubbish & I’m surprised you’ve republished it without verifying the truth. Evacuees are being tested for Covid-19 & if positive, are being isolated.
Washington Examiner carries the same claim.
Added a link to an interview with the Prime Minister of St Vincent and the Grenadines, in which he says people have to be vaccinated.
Have you looked at the Emergency Use Authorization for the Pfizer vaccine? If you’re interested, pay some attention to adverse reactions and unconfirmed COVID-19; cherry picking galore. In my opinion, what the public is being sold is not being delivered.
Still concerning is: “Potential risks that should be further evaluated include uncommon to rare clinically significant adverse reactions that may become apparent with more widespread use of the vaccine and with longer duration of follow-up (including further evaluation of risk of Bell’s palsy and allergic reactions following vaccination), risks associated with vaccination of specific populations such as children younger than 16 years of age and pregnant and breastfeeding women, and whether vaccine-enhanced disease could occur with waning of immunity.”
I never read about a warning, not to vaccinate ill people.
Ill includes not recognised active COV-19.
What I’m driving at is eloquently described here:
Major problems arise when the “gold standard” PCR test is found to be shit.
“More than 750 million vaccine doses have been administered worldwide, …”
That is quite a large sample, if I remember correctly from my first statistics class. Further, in a group of 750 M, some are going to get sick from many other causes. There are unknown unknowns, some wise guy said.
I’m sinical I admit, there has been no long term testing so we have 750 m long term test subjects. I can’t help but think that’s the wrong way of doing things.
That is the phase IV testing going on.
as it is with EVERY drug!
just this has waaay less evidence of safety due to rush to make n peddle
hell even the supposedly well trialled one and follow ups at decent timeframes have harmed/killed recipients
Getting my second Moderna shot today. Each time requires a screening form to fill out which specifically asks if you had any illness, cough, fever, body aches etc in the last 10 days. If you check yes, you do not get the shot that day.
No one I know who has had both shots has had any problem other than a headache for a short time.
I saw a paper here in Germany without such specific questions
I’m trying to learn whether there are treatments should antibody dependent enhancement or autoimmune reactogenicity occur.
It seems that anti inflammatory substances from foods to steroids should be helpful. Keep vitamin D levels up. Stay healthy.
From what I hear in the UK, the NHS gives you a leaflet informing you of possible side effects AFTER you have had the shot. Definitely not informed consent.
My health care rpovider in the US sent me a full information packet as soon as I made an appointment and I had to have my signed release ready when I showed up for the shot.
But IMO that’s just another difference between a private and government operation. the US will be with the UK before I can blink.
I was given the leaflet to read and asked if I understood it or had any questions before getting the first Phizer shot in central Scotland. Second one on Wednesday.
they pulled that stunt here in Aus too
nurses grabbed n jabbed anyone that came through the door when H1N1 was “a thing”
signing n info sheets FOLLOWED not preceeded. friend here got caught and they also added a tetanus shot the same time TOTALLY against direct instructions to NOT give ANY other vaccines a week prior or after the H1N1 jab
and yes he was seriously ill and? refused to report it to aussie vaers
Sister-in-law had the first dose of Modera last week. She has had a reaction to it. When the reaction didn’t clear up had to go to the doctor.
Well, I had modest flu like symptoms for a day after the first Moderna shot. The second was like being run over by a truck. Fever starting about 12 hours after the shot peaking somewhere above 103.8F (taken by my wife around midnight and that was not the peak). Highest temperature I’ve ever expetienced in my life. It was not pleasant, and that was in spite of maximum doses of Tylenol and advil combined.
Fever broke and I was able to fall asleep around 6 the next morning. Slow recovery next few days.
Not a common reaction but there are other reports if you look for them. I survived obviously but the prospect of an annual “booster” is not attractive.
Updating my second shot. No adverse effects. A slight soreness at the injection point, as always. No headache (had one after the first shot), no malaise, no sick feeling. Went to work, felt good all day other than having to deal with other humans.
I’ve read about a doctor who had had COVID several months before vaccine became available. She decided to get an antibody assay before going for vaccination, and decided to delay as her antibody level was much higher than would be expected following the vaccination. Any further stimulation of the immune system could be dangerous, but people are not normally tested for antibodies before vaccination. Her assessment was that infection was equivalent to first shot, and once antibody level drops, one shot of vaccine would work like a booster second dose.
I suppose to you that the Prime Minister’s recorded words in the interview don’t mean anything. They probably didn’t respond to the paper’s request for a comment because they are a trifle busy right now, with the volcano erupting and all. It’s amazing how ideologues will latch onto anything that supports their narrative no matter how silly or illogical.
Greg, in your zeal to push a narrative, you missed the part, earlier in the article, that stated:
That apparently was from a NBC Radio interview, The examiner probably had follow questions (as reporters often do), to which they received no replies (which often happens). The lack of replies to follow up questions does not negate the previous stated comment, no matter how much you’d like to pretend otherwise.
Now you could try to make an argument that the PM was misquoted and/or misspoke in the article/interview. But you’d need more than the fact that you don’t believe what was stated or that follow up questions weren’t replied to in order to make such a case. You haven’t even come close to making such a case.
Since you can’t test for covid with PCR (according to the man who invented PCR) there’s no point.
There is an update to this story post on Gateway Pundit. The press has distorted the truth again to continue to keep people alarmed and unhappy and encourage them to get the vaccine lest they end up in a disaster and be refused rescue. The vaccine is not being mandated before rescue. Only ten percent of the people on the island have been vaccinated. The true fact it that anyone not yet vaccinated is being offered the vaccine on board the cruise ships and the islands accepting them are recommending they take it. Now there might be some justifiable concern about coercion in this situation. However none of this is mandatory and no one is being left on shore or not being allowed off the cruise ships for lack of vaccine.
Washington Examiner carried the same claim.
Added a link to an interview with the Prime Minister of St Vincent and the Grenadines, in which he says people have to be vaccinated.
I wasn’t interested in watching an hour and twelve minutes of this radio chat but, by skipping, at around 58 minutes, I found him saying that some countries won’t accept unvaccinated people and some don’t want to accept anybody.
UPDATE: Cruise line Royal Caribbean responded to TGP about the vaccine mandate, saying the policy was set by the St. Vincent government, and clarified that evacuees would be tested and offered vaccines on board ship so they can be resettled in neighboring island nations, indicating that proof of vaccination is not required for evacuees to board ship.
Thanks guys, I’ve updated the article.
the cruise industry e to have widely stated that NO passengers allowed onboard w/out vax certs everywhere. like some airlines are trying
emergencies should change that
Ah, but the critical issue is not whether they had been vaccinated, but whether they had preexisting immunity. Naturally acquired immunity? Were they socially contagious, and therefore had to be socially distanced?
in my opinion that is just wrong.
And you are right
Remember that if the China Virus gets onto a cruise liner it has been proven to go on to infect at least some of the thousands of passengers.
Captive environment. Lots of forced ventilation. Lots of shared catering. One might even say the perfect situation for a highly contagious super virus to spread uncontrolled throughout the entire population.
Instead we had the Ruby Princess that out of 3700 or so passengers and crew there were only about 700 ‘cases’ and a cruise ship back in early 2020 that was quarantined off Japan that also, despite the perfect opportunity, failed to infect all occupants.
Are people prepared to discuss this and possibly reach a greater understanding on how the China Virus actually operates, or we just going to tell people do wear a mask and that Lockdowns are character building?
Asking for my friend Dan in Victoria.
re: “Ruby Princess”
“Diamond Princess” perhaps (although there is a “Ruby Princess”)?
Rubies, diamonds, what’s the diff? Just click your heels together three times in obeisance to the Great and Powerful Biden and all will be well.
Can the PCR tests be trusted?
“In light of our re-examination of the test protocol to identify SARS-CoV-2 described in the Corman-Drosten paper we have identified concerning errors and inherent fallacies which render the SARS-CoV-2 PCR test useless.”
More Covid insanity and not at all surprising. I only hope that one day the people will wake up to how they have been deliberately kept in a constant state of fear of a virus that is not nearly as dangerous as the annual flu that we have all lived with and accepted as a fact of life forever.
I’m surprised COVID-19 insurance isn’t being offered everywhere. Seems like there are a lot of sheep to be sheared.
Never hurts to think like the good shepherd.
Vakzinen Macht Frei
Actually, the latest from Doris is vaccines do not work after all, so we need bi-weekly testing and vaccination papers:
The Prime Minister Boris Johnson has warned that people should not meet friends or family indoors this Easter weekend, regardless of whether or not they have been vaccinated.
Boris Johnson: Vaccinated people should not meet indoors as jabs ‘not 100% effective’ | JOE.co.uk
No vaccine is 100% effective.
Eg Diptheria ~75%; TB ~50%; Polio 72% Whooping cough ~70% ad nauseam.
If two vaccinated people cannot meet in a room, what is the point of immunisation in the first place?
Vakzinen Macht Frei – until the political imperative changes.
The Case Fatality Rate for SARS-CoV-2 is somewhere around 0.2% with some saying higher and some lower. The CFR for the Spanish Flu was >2.5% and it faded in about two seasons without vaccinations or national lockdowns.
Note: My Mother and Father were both born in 1915 with most of my Aunts and Uncles born before. There were no stories in the family about the Spanish Flu but plenty about WW1 especially about my Mother’s two brothers that were KIA.
It’s a question of country, Germany is about 2.6% per saturday evening and R0 1.99
That makes it worse than Spanish Flu where 50 million people died worldwide (when the worlds population was under half what it is now) and mainly of productive age.
Around 2.8 million people have died from the Wuhan Flu which is a little over the number of people that die each year from lower respiratory disease. The biggest killer is heart disease (19 million) followed by Cancer (10 million). The reaction to the Wuhan Flu is out of all proportion to it’s character and lethality.
Exactly right. One can only imagine the reaction to a Spanish Flu like pandemic today. Capital punishment for not wearing a mask?
Capital punishment for thinking about not wearing a mask.
The reaction to the Wuflu is definitely way out of proportion, and as far as I can tell, did not result in an unusual death rate. Indeed, the Spanish flu did not result in an unusual death rate either, at least in the USA, contrary to what the scaremongering media want you to believe… (I haven’t checked other countries, but, for instance, any country heavily involved in WW1 probably had significant confounding factors to watch out for in those years)
be damned interesting to have WEIGHT of the dead made public
as obesity seems a huge factor for the majority of the ill
They did try masks though. There were reports of the unmasked digging graves for the masked victims. In 2008, Dr. Anthony Fauci co-wrote a paper with two colleagues explaining that influenza was not the predominant cause of death during the 1918 flu pandemic, and that bacterial pneumonia made worse by mask-wearing was to blame.
Also, treatment with aspirin (often in toxic doses) appears to have been lethal for some of the hospitalised in the autumn second wave.
In the second wave of the Spanish flu in the autumn of 1918, people were dying within hours of their first symptoms. Some who fell ill in the morning were dead by sunset. This was the big fear last year in March, and was why the lockdowns were so stringent. Now we know that it’s nowhere near that lethal, yet we’re afraid to relax the restrictions. It would be an admission that we over-reacted.
But we got the measure of this virus by March 2020 and yet the WHO shouted that all down. The WEF book COVID-19: The Great Reset was printed in June and here is the very first sentence in the book: “Since it made its entry on the world stage, COVID-19 has dramatically torn up the existing script of how to govern countries, live with others and take part in the global economy.”
How is a virus able to do that? How can the WEF get a book printed so quickly at the beginning of a pandemic and written in a way that it’s all understood and a done deal?
This is Page 173
“In short, a return to business as usual. This won’t happen because it can’t happen. For the most part “Business as usual” died from (or at the very least was infected by) COVID-19.”
Is that so?
One article pointed out that Royal Caribbean spokesperson said that vaccination policy is not theirs, it is St. Vincent government. Article said neighboring islands are requiring only an identification card for evacuees to disembark on their territory because it is an emergency. Seems that real story is that Gavin Newsom is in charge on St. Vincent.
“Identification card.” That’s racist.
Only if theyu want to vote.
The headline for this post is a false statement. While I am a conservative and support conservative causes, I don’t support false and misleading statements. I also don’t give a damn how many other publications post the same false claim. This article does a great disservice to WWUT’s reputation.
Prime Minister of St. Vincent, Paul Gonsalves
This is the claim made by The Washington Examiner; it does not state any indication of ‘mandatory’, but the opposite–
Vance Gulliksen, a spokesman for Carnival Cruises, told the Washington Examiner that the company “has not made vaccines a requirement of this humanitarian mission.” He added that the government of St. Vincent had offered to “do their best” to ensure that all passengers are vaccinated against COVID-19 and tested for the virus.
The language from the governors office is not clear on when the vaccination has to occur. It sounds more like if you leave the island you have to be vaccinated in order to return
From what I have read (and for what that is worth considering today’s standard for “journalism”) the vaccine was only first available to the islanders a fortnight before the first eruption. Thus, given the precautions and other hoopla surrounding “vaccines” it doesn’t make sense since the period for the “vaccine” to do its thing hasn’t passed.
My first take was that this was a way to make sure that those within the Inner Circle, would not have to evacuate with hoi polloi by making the restrictions, but I have no idea on how the “vaccines” were to be administered, but given standard universal corruption policies, the connected usually end up being first – or at least get the documents guaranteeing it.
The second take was from what I have read concerning Florida’s efforts to tell the CDC to pound sand concerning their travel restrictions aboard cruise ships because what passes for “government” in the former United States no longer considers the costs of their mandates. That is, the CDC is behind the boarding requirements, and doesn’t care at all about the human or economic costs of their baseless edicts.
My semi-educated guess as to why the inhumane filter on non-vaccinated is that the CDC will impose fines and further operating restrictions on cruise ship operators for any vessel that takes on passengers, no matter the context, that do not have the “vaccine”, regardless if the jab was two months or two hours ago. So with the cruise industry hemorrhaging money, tacking on more fines and penalties for doing what is Right vs doing what the “government” mandates isn’t going to bring out the best in humanity – particularly in the corporate board room.
Interesting. Do they realize that 100%of people exposed to volcanoes die, vs a mere fraction of a percent for covid?
If you mean, being in the general vicinity, that’s nonsense. If you’re in the blast, or run over by lava, yes, you’re dead. But just being “exposed”, no. You’d have to define “exposed”.
I can tell you that I personally did not die when I went into the crater of Mt Soufriere in 2007 during the maiden voyage of the Tall Ship Pelican of London. At that time La Soufriere was a classical volcano shape, and there were ropes to help you down the scree slopes into the crater. There was some standing water in the crater, and apart from the steaming basalt blocks in the centre, the floor was verdant. When I was there, the most explosive thing on the island was Sunset Rum at 84.5% alcohol by volume.
As others have pointed out, you need to be a bit more precise in your language. simple exposure (IE standing in the general vicinity of a volcano) isn’t a death sentence (particularly if said volcano in question isn’t currently active) Standing there when a volcano erupts, on the other hand might be (depending on how close one was standing, where one was standing in relations to the direction of the volcanoes ejecta and lava flows, whether the wind is blowing toxic fumes in your direction, etc).
simply saying “100%of people exposed to volcanoes die” is like saying “100% of people exposed to water drown”. Considering most of the time people manage to survive when they take a bath or shower or go for a swim, clearly such generalizations are lacking in precision to put it kindly.
Obsession with a few nuts mixed in stirred by government.
We were told 3 weeks between first and second shot and 2 weeks for immunity to kick in. By that they are looking at 5 weeks for immunity. The volcano may not wait. And a booster shot may be given with the flu shot later this year.
Don’t worry. It’ll only take a couple of weeks for the eruption curve to flatten.
This smells like a scare story put about by the UN/WHO to keep Project Fear alive. “Get vaccinated or be consumed by molten lava” would be coercion. Is the story true, or a distortion by one or other camps? In the volcano-free UK we are being told that we “might” not be allowed to enter our workplaces and places of entertainment from September if we cannot produce a valid vaccination certificate, despite the disappearance of Covid and the collapse of the associated Mencken Hobgoblin and the Lockdown Industry stock market . Any coercion to accept medication, vaccination, and experimental non-pharmaceutical interventions (e.g. masks, social distancing and lockdown) would be in violation of the 1947 Nuremberg Convention and, in some jurisdictions, could give rise to a class action.
Hear tell a retired geologist, made a bold prediction that Mt. Baker or Mt. Rainer will be the next to pop off. He based that prediction on 1979’s eruption of this same volcano and 1980’s Mt. Saint Helens. Keep a eye on quakes up there.
A major problem with this is that these aren’t vaccines that cannot be safely administered in a crisis situation like this. The need for a high degree of refrigeration and the importance of injection technique and sterility will be impossible to maintain in this environment.
There is little doubt in my mind that some of the vaccine “side effects” which are occurring in clusters around specific injection sites are due to improper handling of the vaccine or improper injections.
Not only that but people with certain conditions should not get the vaccine. Forcing the shot on those with certain allergies can be a death sentence. Again, I am quite sure that many of the severe side effects reported for the vaccines are due to people who have been so traumatized by the virus that they hide allergies from those administering the shots.
And of course there is the question of individual rights and freedoms which are being violated in the name of this virus and the vaccines world wide.
Engines have air filters. Volcanic ash is a problem for jet turbines because the air is not filtered.
Actually they intake air directly – no filters. I assume they aren’t expecting too many dust storms are sea
Perhaps the neighboring islands authorities who don’t allow the reception of St Vincent refugees fear that their own islands would tip over and capsize due to overpopulation …
LOL! mega upvotes!
According to Worldometer, St.Vincet has had 1,790 total cases and 10 deaths. Not exactly a hot spot.
Soundss as if the evacuees are more likely to catch Covid-19 from a rescuer or cruise ship worker. Perhaps, the evacuees should demand the rescuers provide proof of vaccination or testing before leaving.
The tiny population of St Vincent and the Grenadines at around 110,000 hasn’t escaped the pandemic, but the Caribbean sun is likely to inhibit spread of the virus as it does encourage you to spend most of your day outdoors where the sunlight can sterilise what the wind has not first dispersed..
“The quality of mercy is [now] strained.”
Well, go ahead and get the shot if it comes with a Biden cash payment like he wants to do in Central America.
Do the research. It’s not a vaccine. It doesn’t prevent infection or transmission. Two family friends of our have died with days of receiving it.
What’s wrong with you? It does prevent transmission and infection.
Millions of Australians are still likely to contract COVID-19 even after they have been inoculated, while a vaccine for children is possibly another year away, experts have warned.
There is insufficient data showing that either the Pfizer or the AstraZeneca vaccine being distributed in Australia can partially or fully stop the transmission of the disease, says Australian Medical Association vice-president Chris Moy.
All that remained was “hoping” that vaccines being used around the world could prevent transmission of the virus, he said.
Yea! Once they are dead they don’t spread Chinese Disease. Great plan.
I feel obliged to reply to lies like this. Your entire staement is flat out FALSE! In any case what does it matter what you call it: “vaccine” or “quexynyx”?
And what, exactly, did they die of? and why, other than temporal proximity, do you think it was the vaccine that did it? remember correlation is not causation. If I get a vaccine and the next day I die in a car accident, that doesn’t mean the vaccine had anything to do with my death, even though you could accurate claim I had “died within days of receiving it”. In short, you need more than proximity of death to receiving a vaccine to make a credible claim that the vaccine was at fault. (and if you have such a claim, take it to the news media, they’ll run with it, whether it’s credible or not. if you don’t think so, you haven’t been paying attention to the news media these past few years.).
If I were anywhere close, I’d be there printing out covid cards on the dock. Signing them Dr. Jean.
Here is a different reporting:
It appears they can board the ship. What happens after that? Unknown at the time of the writing of the story.
Is it any wonder why more and more people are calling this lunacy out as conspiracy? Putting people at extreme risk (choking on volcanic dust, resulting in a rather grisly death of the fine glassy particles slicing the lungs, then setting like concrete in the lungs) to force them to submit to an untested, experimental vaccine for which their is no legal redress is in flagrant violation of the Nuremberg code.
What sort of tyrannical choice is that? Become an unpaid lab rat or suffer a grisly death at the hands of mother nature? Only a maniacal tyrant imposes this on anyone.
Add the fact that the vaccine would take 2 weeks to kick in (even if it works), the whole thing as an affront to even the intelligence of a flea.
Call me a conspiracy theorist if you must, but at least I am not a dung beetle that swallows every scrap of bovine excrement served up.
“But because the world has become obsessed with a disease which kills up to 1% of victims, “
I call BS here. Covid-19 is simply the flu season renamed. The kill rate is 0.1% to 0.01%, depending on the age range. No one has any right to deny rescue to a person jest because they might have a flu-type virus.
To demand that people get a jab of an experimental medical device that has not been properly tested and shown to be safe is insane. I would stay on the island rather than play Russian roulette with the rest of my life.
Interesting but what does it have to do with climate change (… which I thought WUWT is about. You risk losing (my) focus by turning into a general rant website.
Don’t like the article? Don’t read it or comment on it, problem solved.
“which I thought WUWT is about. “
I suggest you read the about page. WUWT is about more than you think (and I use that last word very loosely).
Humanity lost its humanity.
The “world” does not have an obsession with Covid. Government officials and individuals in large corporations have that obsession, and it’s because they are enslaving everyone else.
The UGLY truth about the Covid-19 lockdowns‘.
Angry SAs speak: YouTube’s removal of Nick Hudson video is censorship
· The ugly truth about the Covid-19 lockdowns- Available statics
· John Cullen, has been doing extensive work on covid mortality statistics, including, age groups and their comparisons to other diseases?
· John Cullen, site has been blocked by YouTube
Maybe it started with those you name but in my neck of the woods there are huge numbers of individuals who are scared out of their minds over the virus. Much of the world IS obsessed. That’s how the control is maintained.
This writer is off the boat for reporting the truth about the EXPERIMENTAL injections! The injection is gene therapy!
Can mRNA Gene Therapy Jabs Permanently Alter Your DNA?
Even though the FDA classifies them as gene therapies — as noted by Moderna in its 2018 SEC filing — the CDC calls the mRNA jabs vaccines. And, right in step, one mainstream news article after another proclaims they don’t tinker with your DNA at all. However, a 2006 study shows that exogenous RNA molecules can be reverse-transcribed in the body into cDNA copies.
THIS IS A SITE OF MODERATION!
This article doesn’t belong in WUWT! But there is a similarity: the anti-VAX crowd spout more falsehoods that the warmunists!
There really is no cure for that level of stupid.
not just wrong!
the vax takes at least 14days to begin to be useful so are they going to hold everyone ON the ships for 14 or more days, and that assumes…one shots is enough and then theres the wait for the 2nd to be a little more/ possibly/ maybe /might be /effective..
The covid fraud is evil incarnate.
All who are buying into it are only a few short steps away from totalitarianism and then nationalist socialism
Unfortunately I think that’s all of us not just those who buy into it.
Of course its madness. Its like having people trapped in a burning building being told that the firefighters won’t put out the flames or rescue them unless they get a shot.
The list of potential problems related to the vaccine gets longer and longer. A recent publication of Dr. J. Bart Classen MD., that mentions possible effects of the vaccine to induce conformational changes of certain proteins into a prionic form which could lead to prion diseases (Creutzfeldt-Jakob-disease or “Mad Cow” disease is a typical prion pathology).
(See Link: https://carterheavyindustries.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/covid19-rna-based-vaccines-and-the-risk-of-prio-disease-1503.pdf By the way: the link works on duck duck go but is censored by the google search engine):
Development of new vaccine technology has been plagued with problems in the past. The current RNA based SARSCoV-2 vaccines were approved in the US using an emergency order without extensive long term safety testing. In this paper the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine was evaluated for the potential to induce prion-based disease in vaccine recipients.
The RNA sequence of the vaccine as well as the spike protein target interaction were analyzed for the potential to convert intracellular RNA binding proteins TAR DNA binding protein (TDP-43) and Fused in Sarcoma (FUS) into their pathologic prion conformations. The results indicate that the vaccine RNA has specific sequences that may induce TDP-43 and FUS to fold into their pathologic prion confirmations. In the current analysis a total of sixteen UG tandem repeats (ΨGΨG) were identified and additional UG (ΨG) rich sequences were identified. Two GGΨA sequences were found. Potential G Quadruplex sequences are possibly present but a more sophisticated computer program is needed to verify these. Furthermore, the spike protein, created by the translation of the vaccine RNA, binds angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2), a zinc containing enzyme.
This interaction has the potential to increase intracellular zinc. Zinc ions have been shown to cause the transformation of TDP-43 to its pathologic prion configuration. The folding of TDP-43 and FUS into their pathologic prion confirmations is known to cause ALS, front temporal lobar degeneration, Alzheimer’s disease and other neurological degenerative diseases. The
enclosed finding as well as additional potential risks leads the author to believe that regulatory approval of the RNA based vaccines for SARS-CoV-2 was premature and that the vaccine may cause much more harm than benefit.
Evil! There’s no Sars CoV 2 virus. They’ve never isolated, or actually produced the physical virus to be able to say it exists and causes a disease. Anyone who pays attention (pharma-funded tv doesn’t count) knows that this is, as Dr Sherry Tenpenny said, the biggest hoax perpetrated on humankind. Understand this: It’s not a “Ha, ha, gotcha!” hoax. It’s malevolent. As Jeffrey A. Tucker has said, they (those who own, rule and ruin the world) are ushering us (the little and majority people) into a new feudalism. Feudalism is slavery. With universal basic income, Chinese style social credit and central bank digital currency (credit actually), you’ll have zero independence. You don’t have access to credit (digital cash) unless you obey whatever the police State government tells you to do and think. Question vaccine safety, your social credit score lowers and suddenly you can’t leave your ‘home’ to shop. Try not eating. It will be, as it is becoming: Obey or die. That’s not about your health.
No Sars CoV 2 means that there’s no covid 19, according to Rockefeller science ideology (which is corrupt beyond words). They are now calling everything, including deaths and injuries from the covid 19 injections (most which are not, technically, vaccines) covid 19. Wake up people! Or be cattle led to the slaughter.