CSIRO Project Aquarius experimental fire Block 20, 1/3/83, McCorkhill, WA. Fire emerging from block 1 hour after ignition. Crowning of intermediate tree layer. Intensity 7500 kW/m, rate of spread 800-1000 m/h. CSIRO [CC BY 3.0], via Wikimedia Commons

Michael Mann: Reduce CO2 Emissions to Restore Climate Stability in Australia

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Apparently Anthropogenic CO2 is responsible for Australia’s wild weather swings between drought and flood. But “it’s not too late to forestall a dystopian future that alternates between Mad Max and Waterworld.”.

It’s not too late for Australia to forestall a dystopian future that alternates between Mad Max and Waterworld

Michael Mann

Catastrophic fires and devastating floods are part of Australia’s harsh new climate reality. The country must do its part to lower carbon emissions


year ago I lived through the Black Summer. I had arrived in Sydney in mid-December 2019 to collaborate with Australian researchers studying the impacts of climate change on extreme weather events. Instead of studying those events, however, I ended up experiencing them.

Even in the confines of my apartment in Coogee, looking out over the Pacific, I could smell the smoke from the massive bushfires blazing across New South Wales. As I flew to Canberra to participate in a special “bushfires” episode of the ABC show Q+A, I witnessed mountains ablaze with fire. One man I metduring my stay lost most of his 180-year-old family farm in the fires that ravaged south-east New South Wales near Milton.

My experiences indelibly coloured the book I was writing on the climate crisis at the time called The New Climate War. 

Tragically, many of the same towns that were devastated by the massive bushfires a little more than a year ago found themselves under siege from these historic floods. A climate contrarian would cry foul: “You climate scientists can’t make up your mind. Is climate change making it wetter or drier?” But in fact, that’s a false choice: It’s both.

Australians can’t seem to catch a break. But it’s not too late to forestall a dystopian future that alternates between Mad Max and Waterworld.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/24/catastrophic-fires-and-devastating-floods-are-part-of-australias-harsh-new-climate-reality

Our rather violent weather extremes seem to have left an impression on Michael Mann. But are these extreme conditions unusual? History suggests not.

What did early explorers have to say about fire? Here are some quotes from early explorer diaries and records. 

The natives were about, burning, burning, ever burning; one would think they … lived on fire instead of water.’ Ernest Giles (1889), Australia Twice Traversed.

The natives set fire to the grass which is abundant everywhere, and at that time is quite dry… The conflagration spreads until the whole country as far as the eye can reach, is in a grand and brilliant illumination.’ Report from Port Essington, in Arnhemland.

Captain James Cook wrote that his crew ‘saw upon all the Adjacent Lands and Islands a great number of smokes — a certain sign that they are inhabited … ‘ 

… the very extraordinary devastation by fire which the vegetable productions had suffered throughout the whole country we had traversed – George Vancouver.

I wish it would rain and cause the grass to become green, so as to stop them burning… – Stuart (1865).

Read more: http://learnline.cdu.edu.au/units/env207/introduction/history.html

What about Mann’s assertion climate change is making the extremes worse? From a government website description of the Federation drought, 1895-1903;

In 1892 Australia had 106 million sheep, two-thirds of which were in the eastern states. By 1903 the national flock had almost halved to 54 million. The nation lost more than 40 per cent of its cattle over the same period, nearly three million in Queensland alone.

Drovers sought feed for hungry stock along travelling stock routes (known as the ‘long paddock’) or moved stock to pastures on the east coast and southern mountains where conditions were less dire.

Droving took an immense toll on sheep and cattle with losses of up to 70 per cent recorded, particularly in regions where watering points could be 100 kilometres apart. In 1902 local newspapers reported that more than 2000 steers lay dead along the Goondiwindi to Miles route in Queensland.

Read more: https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/federation-drought

Michael Mann, What you call a land of Mad Max and Waterworld, we call home. Breathing a bit of bushfire smoke every other year, enduring floods and droughts, is as much a part of Aussie life as beach BBQs and beer, and always has been.

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Jeff Labute
March 25, 2021 10:03 am

I think China has been attacking Australia with CO2!
It is an act of war.

Come on Mann.

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Latitude
Reply to  Jeff Labute
March 25, 2021 5:26 pm

How do they get away with this crap…

…are they all bought and sold by China

Tom Abbott
March 25, 2021 10:06 am

From the article: “Catastrophic fires and devastating floods are part of Australia’s harsh new climate reality.”

No, they are part of Austrailia’s harsh, old climate reality.

There’s nothing unprecedented going on. It’s all happened before and had nothing to do with CO2.

Michael Mann is the problem.

Last edited 19 days ago by Tom Abbott
Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 25, 2021 11:33 am

“We don’t want him
You can keep him
He’s too fat for me”🎹

-The Michael Mann Polka

https://youtu.be/9h-a9cvsbMM

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Greg
Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 25, 2021 12:55 pm

When certain trees and plants’ grains only germinate after a fire, you can be pretty sure that fire has been an essential part of the local ecology for very, very long time.

To bed B
Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 25, 2021 3:16 pm

It was a man-made catastrophe. Many of those fires that made the news, burning old forests near population centres, were known to be lit by humans. The source for many others are unknown. This was buried in propaganda that didn’t distinguish between these fires with the annual grass fires lit by lightning.

Worse, one man was arrested in August for trying to light a bush fire to blame CC. There is no shadow of doubt that there are more people like this, and you don’t need many. Australia’s worst bush fire about 150 years ago was lit by a careless bullock team.

Clive
Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 25, 2021 9:43 pm

“A land of drought and flooding rains” Dorothea Mackeller 1904.

Dennis
Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 26, 2021 2:04 am

Gradually the climate became drier from about 130,000 years ago and rainforests retreated and were replaced by eucalypts, today about 3 per cent of rainforest remains.

And over thousands of years the original migrants, The Australian Aborigines, learnt how to manage the land, traditional seasonal burning in patches, a technique being revived today in Western Australian and Northern Territory.

Unfortunately major bushfires usually following periods of drought and dry conditions have been worsening because of UN Agenda 21 – Sustainability preservation of public lands from which National Parks have been created and not well managed to remove bushfire hazard material, land management.

beng135
Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 26, 2021 10:46 am

There are a number of fire-adapted trees in the eastern US whose numbers/range have declined due to fire-suppression, for ex, Table Mountain pine in the central Appalachians and longleaf pine in the southeast.

Ken Pollock
March 25, 2021 10:20 am

Why does anyone take Prof Mann seriously any more?

I filmed in Australia in 1983 for the BBC1 Farming programme in the middle of a drought. Farmers were using the long paddock then! That was followed by bush fires that left 75 people dead. Very impressive and much worse than the recent ones…

There is no substitute for checking back over the decades, to put our recent “weather” into perspective!

EOM
Reply to  Ken Pollock
March 25, 2021 12:35 pm

His crap brings in huge government grants. Follow the money.

Alan M
Reply to  Ken Pollock
March 25, 2021 5:25 pm

Why does anyone take Prof Mann seriously any more?

When did anyone take him seriously anyway

LdB
Reply to  Alan M
March 25, 2021 7:19 pm

He is a joke to most Australians and our response export more coal and gas 🙂

March 25, 2021 10:21 am

Ban Mann.

Jeff Labute
Reply to  John Shewchuk
March 25, 2021 12:20 pm

I would had said Bat Mann 😉

Reply to  John Shewchuk
March 25, 2021 12:22 pm

Bann Mann too. Australia should purchase a Thorium Molten Salts Reactor….desalinate seawater over night.

John in Oz
Reply to  Anti_griff
March 25, 2021 3:44 pm

Where would you put the fresh water? In the dams that are currently overflowing?

The issue of drought-proofing Oz is apparently beyond the abilities of any government.

Rich Davis
Reply to  John in Oz
March 25, 2021 5:37 pm

Wait, what, full? I thought Flim Flam Flannery said that could never happen again.

I’m sure the oz media have been pressing him to comment, no?

We’ll all be rooned!

Reply to  John in Oz
March 25, 2021 6:02 pm

WELL, WHEN YOU DON’T NEED IT – DON’T PRODUCE IT.

markl
March 25, 2021 10:25 am

Yet they still get MSM attention because it fits the narrative, not reality or history.

John Doran
March 25, 2021 10:30 am

Has the fat fool fraud paid climatologist Dr. Tim Ball’s money yet?
http://www.principia-scientific.com
put Ball defeats Mann in search box.

H. D. Hoese
Reply to  John Doran
March 25, 2021 4:03 pm

I was on a whale watching trip once with a Canadian attorney who explained to me the difference between the American and Canadian System. Be careful who you sue N of 49 N

dk_
March 25, 2021 10:37 am

Alternating “between Mad Max and Water World,” and even just the term “Dystopia” shows a complete failure to understand the words fiction and allegory and to discern either of those from the real world. No wonder he lost the suit.

ResourceGuy
March 25, 2021 10:39 am

MM would make a nice export item as long as it is permanent.

Jeff
March 25, 2021 10:45 am

That mann is a fool.Any competent and honest scientist should be embarrassed to be in any way associated with him.

Jeff Alberts
March 25, 2021 10:45 am

Mann IS a dystopian future.

griff
March 25, 2021 11:03 am

‘Apparently Anthropogenic CO2 is responsible for Australia’s wild weather swings between drought and flood’

yes, it is.

Editor
Reply to  griff
March 25, 2021 11:28 am

Typically unsupported assertion comes along, while being unaware that La-Nina phase tends to cause flooding in parts of Australia.

Try educating starting with this link: Carbon dioxide radically lower but floods destroy houses, cover beaches in debris across NSW in 1857

Tom Abbott
Reply to  griff
March 25, 2021 11:38 am

“yes, it is.”

Griff says with absolutely no evidence to back up this claim.

I just listened to Biden’s first press conference and it appears that Biden thinks he can stop the sea level from going higher. He must be getting pointers from Obama.

Griff will probably chime in and say “Yes, he can”.

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Reply to  griff
March 25, 2021 12:02 pm

No, it isn’t.
Look at the history of Australian droughts and wildfires. Usual, not unprecedented.

fred250
Reply to  griff
March 25, 2021 12:04 pm

more SCIENTIFICALLY UNSUPPORTABLE BS from griff.

Run away from producing evidence, village idiot.

Just mindless, regurgitated, AGW manta spew, is all you are capable of.

1… Do you have any empirical scientific evidence for warming by atmospheric CO2?

2… In what ways has the global climate changed in the last 50 years , that can be scientifically proven to be of human released CO2 causation?

aussiecol
Reply to  griff
March 25, 2021 1:52 pm

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.
I love her far horizons,
I love her jewel-sea,
Her beauty and her terror –
The wide brown land for me!

An excerpt from ”My Country” by Dorothea Mackellar, 1908

John Bell
Reply to  griff
March 25, 2021 1:55 pm

Griff stop using fossil fuels every day you flaming hypocrite, you are the laughing stock here.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  griff
March 25, 2021 2:01 pm

Griffypoo evidently believes anthropogenic CO2 has magical powers.

Climate believer
Reply to  griff
March 25, 2021 2:39 pm

So convincing… let me try.

“Griff’s a moron”

Yes, he is.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Climate believer
March 25, 2021 6:14 pm

Cb,
There still needs to be some discussion about whether moron is the correct term; idiot and imbecile are definite possibilities. I always like think of him as just another ignorant griffter!

Rory Forbes
Reply to  griff
March 25, 2021 3:06 pm

You know as well as the rest of us that there has been no human caused climate change and that all we are experiencing is easily explained by natural variation. Increasing CO2 is not causing any warming but it is casing greening. You need to find a new cause to champion.

BruceC
Reply to  griff
March 25, 2021 4:39 pm

Griff old mate, here in my neck-of-the-woods in Australia (Hunter Valley region), the history of significant flooding of the Hunter River are 1820, 1893, 1913, 1930, 1949, 1952, 1955, 1971, 1977, 2007, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2015.

The 1955 flood still remains to this day as the largest Hunter River flood recorded.

YallaYPoora Kid
Reply to  griff
March 25, 2021 5:10 pm

The Troll strikes out again. Ignorance is not a justification for repeated uninformed comments. You can do it once but in your case you have exceeded your limit. An intelligent person will research so as to not to make repeated false statements. We Australians have been used to our climate of cyclic variation experiencing drought, fire and flood going back into Indigenous history. Just STFU and learn.

chickenhawk
Reply to  griff
March 25, 2021 5:31 pm

hee, hee, hee
and I thought mann was a nincompoop

but hey, I needed a laugh…

Doonman
Reply to  griff
March 25, 2021 6:35 pm

I am unaware of any theory that equates weather phenomena with atmospheric CO2 levels.

Apparently, Griff is aware of at least one. I’ll wait while he cites those theories to support his claims.

LdB
Reply to  griff
March 25, 2021 7:22 pm

No worries Griff troll … tell you what lets export more coal and gas and see if you are right … wink 🙂

Notanacademic
Reply to  griff
March 26, 2021 2:09 am

No it isn’t or I’ll scweam and scweam and scweam.

Fraizer
March 25, 2021 11:09 am

The distopia that Mad Mike would create given the chance would have nothing on Mad Max

Stephen Skinner
March 25, 2021 11:13 am

“Catastrophic fires and devastating floods are part of Australia’s harsh new climate reality.”

Why are there over 100 Australian trees, plants and shrubs that have adapted to fire or have they changed their DNA to adapt to fire in the last few years? There are also vegetation where their seeds won’t open unless burnt.
And…
Arid and semi arid landscapes are prone to flash floods.
Solution: Land management based on knowledge of the land.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
March 25, 2021 6:18 pm

Trees, plants and shrubs? Heck, there are BIRDS that have learned to spread fire for flushing prey from cover! That takes some rather intense behavioral transformation!

March 25, 2021 11:26 am

Since the start of the industrial revolution around 1800, the atmospheric concentration of CO2 has increased from about 280 to 400 ppm [Keeling, 2020]. This has produced a decrease in the LWIR flux of approximately 2 W m-2 at the top of the atmosphere in the CO2 band emission with a similar increase in the downward LWIR flux to the surface [Harde, 2017]. For a CO2 ‘doubling’ to 560 ppm, the change in flux increases to approximately 3.7 W m-2. At present, the average CO2 concentration is increasing by about 2.4 ppm per which corresponds to a change in LWIR flux near 0.034 W m-2 per year.
 
The weather related cause of brushfires in parts of Australia and other places such as California is a mix of downslope winds and ‘blocking’ high pressure systems. There is often a combination of low rainfall following a wet year that leads to the formation of more dry vegetation fuel than normal for the fires. The lapse rate for dry air is -9.8 K km-1. In this case what goes up can come down. For downslope winds, the dry air compression can produce an increase in air temperature of 10 C in a couple days or in more extreme cases, a few hours. Similarly, there is a downward air flow within a high pressure dome combined with recirculation that can produce a temperature rise of 10 C or more over a period of about 5 days. 
 
The figure shows the temperature record for Woomera, SA for December 2018 and 2019 [BOM, 2020]. The upper plots show the max and min temperatures and the lower plots show the rainfall and total daily solar insolation. There was an increase in temperature produced by a ‘blocking high’ in both years as indicated by the arrows in the temperature plots. For 2018 there was in increase in maximum surface temperature of almost 18 C over a period of 7 days. For 2019, there was an increase of almost 22 C over a period of 8 days. This was associated with record temperatures and major fires over a large region of Australia. There was also a record ‘spike’ in the Indian Ocean Dipole index [IOD, 2020]. The surface temperature of the Indian Ocean near Australia was below normal with reduced rainfall. 
 
How does an average increase of 2.4 ppm in the atmospheric concentration of CO2 associated with a ‘radiative forcing’ of 0.034 W m-2 change the residence time and temperature rise in a blocking high pressure system over the Australian Bight by 1 day and 4C?
 
References
 
BOM, 2020, http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/data/
Harde, H., ‘Radiation Transfer Calculations and Assessment of Global Warming by CO2.’ Int. J. Atmos. Sci. 9251034 (2017), https://doi.org/10.1155/2017/9251034
Keeling, 2020, https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/
IOD, 2020, https://psl.noaa.gov/gcos_wgsp/Timeseries/Data/dmi.had.long.data

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stinkerp
March 25, 2021 11:31 am

I could smell the smoke from the massive bushfires blazing across New South Wales

A smell those in the arid West experience every year. News flash, leftists: arid regions frequently have wildfires. It’s normal. If you want to reduce them, reduce the fuel load. Reducing atmospheric CO2 to reduce wildfires is as efficacious as doing a rain dance to summon more rain. Actually less efficacious because at least the rain dance will get your heart pumping and endorphins flooding your brain to make you feel better even if the rain doesn’t come.

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Abolition Man
Reply to  stinkerp
March 25, 2021 6:38 pm

stinkerp,
Where I live in the high desert Southwest we don’t have the usual four seasons; we have five!
Winter starts in November or December when it gets really cold and sometimes even snows. Starting about March we get Wind, where the gentle zephyrs blowing across the Continental Divide try to take your roof if not your whole house.
After Wind comes Smoke where the air is filled with particulates from far away places like Commifornia and their tinderbox forests. Smoke usually starts in April or May, and can last until July depending on how long and how strong Wind was!
Our blessed time of year is the Monsoon; which is like Spring but occurs in Summer! The rains and thunderstorms of Monsoon are a pleasure to experience and it comes with hordes of migrating hummingbirds as well!
Fall comes along eventually and sometimes lasts a month or two before we start over. The dividing line between Fall and Winter seems to be when my tomato plants freeze!

Art
March 25, 2021 11:42 am

“Climate stability”? Where do these imbeciles come up with these idiotic phrases?

H B
Reply to  Art
March 25, 2021 12:21 pm

Agree just look at the history of the Holocene have a image but can’t past it

Reply to  Art
March 25, 2021 1:56 pm

Why are you surprised? This goes along with “climate justice”, “existential threat”, “global warming”, “woke”, “systemic racism”, the names assigned to congressional legislation and the rest of the misused language the left uses as emotional triggers. In this case, the implication is that the climate is supposed to be stable, which if it was, it would be broken.

fretslider
March 25, 2021 11:48 am

Distinguished nonsense from Michael Mann

Kalsel3294
March 25, 2021 11:57 am

The constant burning witnessed by early explorers of the aboriginals was their recognition that if they didn’t set fires at a time convenient to them, nature would likely do so at a time inconvenient to them, or worse, a fire they couldn’t escape from.
Given the devastation that uncontrolled fires bring to a modern society with all the technology at it’s disposal, it should be obvious that in order for earlier inhabitants to survive that it was a case of using commonsense and addressing the basic issues in the most basic fashion. One of the mast basic rules which continues today and is stressed to those engaged in fighting wildfires is, stay on the black. In other words utilise the areas already burnt to attack the fire from, or to use as a safe refuge, something the early inhabitants instinctively knew and practiced.

Shoki Kaneda
March 25, 2021 12:41 pm

Reduce Michael Mann emissions to restore sane public discourse.

a happy little debunker
March 25, 2021 12:47 pm

“We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,“If this rain doesn’t stop.”
July 1919 – John O’Brien

Greg
March 25, 2021 12:52 pm

Cut your emmissions NOW, or the koala get’s it !!

LdB
Reply to  Greg
March 25, 2021 7:23 pm

ROFL … New market deep fried Koala Legs?

To soon?

Bruce Cobb
March 25, 2021 1:03 pm

There goes Fraudy McFraudpants again, coloring outside the lines of science and truth to push an ideology based on nothing but lies, lies, and ,more lies.

lee
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
March 25, 2021 8:29 pm

Yes. He has a new gig writing Colouring books. 😉

ResourceGuy
March 25, 2021 1:14 pm

MM is the scientist who yelled Fire! in a crowded theater to get attention. Coming to a theater near you.

S.K.
Reply to  ResourceGuy
March 25, 2021 2:12 pm

I apologize in advance for correcting you, but MM is not a scientist.

John Teisen
March 25, 2021 1:26 pm

Drought, bush fires and floods are normal Australia.

It has always been this way; long before the Aborigines turned up; long before the British turned up; long before the Greenies created the term “Man-made Climate Change”; and long before Michael Mann created his “hockey stick”.

Sure the floods, drought and fires are real, but they are normal and Aussies have to learn to live with them.

Robber
March 25, 2021 1:48 pm

Extracts from Said Hanrahan, by John O’Brien 1919.
http://boreelog.com.au/the-poems/said-hanrahan

“If we don’t get three inches, man,
Or four to break this drought,
We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
“Before the year is out.”

In God’s good time down came the rain;
And all the afternoon
On iron roof and window-pane
It drummed a homely tune.

And every creek a banker ran,
And dams filled overtop;
“We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
“If this rain doesn’t stop.”

And stop it did, in God’s good time;
And spring came in to fold
A mantle o’er the hills sublime
Of green and pink and gold.

There’ll be bush-fires for sure, me man,
There will, without a doubt;
We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
“Before the year is out.”

Christopher Hanley
March 25, 2021 1:49 pm

It’s the equivalent of ‘ambulance chasing’, people like Mann relish natural disasters to push their agenda for personal benefit.

S.K.
March 25, 2021 1:52 pm

Tony Heller produced an article with the same conclusion, that being, there is nothing unusual happening with Australia’s climate.

https://realclimatescience.com/2021/03/michael-mann-says-australia-didnt-used-to-have-floods-or-fires/

The UN/IPCC’s credibility is eroded by the day thanks to MM

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Smart Rock
March 25, 2021 1:52 pm

Mann has to double down on his mendacious propheteering. Either that or admit that he’s been lying mistaken for the last quarter-century. Simply retiring and moving out of the limelight is not an option for those with such big egos.

Admitting past errors is impossible for one so enamoured of his own importance at the centre of the climate cartel.

jmorpuss
March 25, 2021 1:57 pm

The best known poem of Mackellar, My Country, was written by her in 1904 at the age of just 19,
I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains
I love her far horizons,
I love her jewel-sea,
Her beauty and her terror
The wide brown land for me!

LdB
Reply to  jmorpuss
March 25, 2021 7:24 pm

Clear needs to be changed by left mob to “Of droughts and flooding rain cause by man made CO2”

Tom in Toronto
March 25, 2021 2:03 pm

The self-importance is staggering. He and Greta are as full-blown crazy as every other doomsayer in history. The end is nigh (for real this time, it’s ‘science’)! Pseudo-scientism is the new apocalyptic cult.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

John Bell
March 25, 2021 2:16 pm

1983 was the only year the spillway at the Hoover dam came in to play.

tygrus
Reply to  John Bell
March 25, 2021 2:58 pm

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-10-29-tm-62672-story.html?_amp=true
The dam is not as safe as they thought when full. The dam outlet tunnels & spillway are not safe with maximum flows.
So after 1983, fill then spill is to be avoided. It’s much safer to start the water releases much earlier to reduce peak outflow.

You also notice, 1983 also involved a doubling of the predicted inflow from melting snow upstream (snow accumulation during winter).

Remember that bigger computers can’t fix bad models, they just get to the wrong answer quicker.

Jean Parisot
March 25, 2021 2:28 pm

“Climate Stability” like Mars?

Dave O.
March 25, 2021 3:16 pm

How can you RESTORE stability that never was?

Tom McQuin
March 25, 2021 3:33 pm

2020 saw the apparent extinction of 2 large species — influenza and weather.

March 25, 2021 4:27 pm

Maybe Dr Mann can explain the Federation Drought and the devastating Gippsland bushfires of 1898, when pCO2 was less than 300 ppmV.

Stephen W
March 25, 2021 4:30 pm

Oh the good old days of the utopian Australian paradise climate..

I’m pretty sure when the British first arrived they wouldn’t have declared it as such.
More like “unfit for human inhabitation” would be closer to the mark.

John Teisen
Reply to  Stephen W
March 25, 2021 9:06 pm

That’s why the Indonesians stayed away. They left it to the Aborigines. The Aborigines were stuck with nowhere to go. They survived for 40,000+ years hunting and gathering, unable to tap the region’s resources through lack of technology.

tmatsi
March 25, 2021 4:37 pm

it’s a shame that Prof Mann does not realise that you need fuel for a fire. In temperate rain forest sufficient fallen leaves, fruit, seeds etc accumulates in around 2-3 years to produce 20 tonnes of litter per hectare which according to the CSIRO, if ignited cannot be extinguished by usual fire fighting techniques. So if forest litter is allowed to accumulate without burning for 5 years a conflagration is guaranteed if it catches alight.

Also Prof Mann does not seem to realise that it it necessary to raise the temperature of wood or any other cellulosic material to around 150-250C in order to ignite it. So why will a temperature rise of only a few degrees C change the probability of a fire occurring?

Fires become catastrophic when fuel is allowed to accumulate and the temperature has very little to do with it other than facilitating their drying out thus making it easier to ignite them.

Perhaps someone should send Prof Mann a copy of the Bush Fire Fighters Manual where fires are well explained. Alternatively a refresher course from first year high school chemistry would probably be enough!

BruceC
March 25, 2021 5:05 pm

“The temperature became torrid, and on the morning of the 6th of February 1851, the air which blew down from the north resembled the breath of a furnace. A fierce wind arose, gathering strength and velocity from hour to hour, until about noon it blew with the violence of a tornado. By some inexplicable means it wrapped the whole country in a sheet of flame — fierce, awful, and irresistible.”

The weather reached record extremes. By eleven it was about 47 °C (117 °F) in the shade. The air cooled to 43 °C (109 °F) by one o’clock and rose to 45 °C (113 °F) around four o’clock. Survivors claimed the air was so full of smoke and heat that their lungs seemed to collapse. The air was so dark it made the roads seem bright. Pastures and plains became shrivelled wastelands: water-holes disappeared, creeks dried up, and trees turned into combustible timber. Clouds of smoke filled the air; forests and ranges became one large “sheet of flames”. The hot north wind was so strong that thick black smoke reached northern Tasmania, creating a murky mist, resembling a combination of smoke and fog. Homes, crops and gardens were consumed by the rushing fire leaving a quarter of Victoria in a heap of desolate ruins. The community fled to water to escape the suffocating air around them, returning after everything was over to the sight of “blackened homesteads” and the charred bodies of animals that could not escape. The weather at sea was even “more fearful than on shore”. The intense heat could be felt 32 km (20 mi) out to sea where a ship came under burning ember attack and was covered in cinders and dust.

‘Black Thursday’ bushfire, Victoria Australia – 6th February 1851.

Dave
March 25, 2021 5:33 pm

Surely Mann knows that Australia’s contribution to global CO2 levels is de minimis.

Reply to  Dave
March 25, 2021 6:13 pm

Sherley he does know….he’s there to sell books…make money…recruit more believers…he can’t go to China.

March 25, 2021 5:38 pm

Beautiful Autumn day here in Perth, Western Australia, today.

Joel O'Bryan
March 25, 2021 6:05 pm

Lying Mike Mann wrote in the the UK’s leading communist-inspired newspaper, “In a scientific study I co-authored a year ago, we demonstrated that climate change is causing the wet season to get wetter and the dry season to get drier in many parts of the world. NSW is one of those regions, and we’ve seen the consequence in the whiplash of fires and floods that have plagued the region over the past 14 months.”

Mann The Snake-oil Seller might as well tell Australia to start tossing virgins into volcanoes and other offerings to appease the climate gods. Mann’s is absolute junk science — made up crap to fit a political narrative that always blames mythical human CO2-climate change. The guy should be laughed out of town.

Doonman
March 25, 2021 6:29 pm

I love it when Nobel Laureates cite Hollywood movie scripts to make their point.

LdB
Reply to  Doonman
March 25, 2021 7:30 pm

Nobel Laureate????

Or do you mean the self proclaimed award the fool, claimed at one stage.

kevin kilty
Reply to  LdB
March 25, 2021 8:59 pm

He meant Lowrate.

Doonman
Reply to  LdB
March 25, 2021 9:40 pm

Mann claimed he was awarded a Nobel Prize. That makes him a Nobel Laureate. Whether he deserved it or not is a different issue.

BruceC
Reply to  Doonman
March 25, 2021 11:50 pm

Mann is not a Nobel Laureate. The 2007 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to the IPCC (and the other fool, Al Gore). Whilst Gore can lay claim to being a Nobel Laureate, Mann cannot as he never received a Nobel.

RoHa
March 25, 2021 6:33 pm

Like many others here I boggled at the phrase “restore climate stability”. Those of us who have spent more than a weekend in the country know that the Australian climate has been like this for centuries.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  RoHa
March 25, 2021 6:46 pm

It takes someone with an actual belief in magic and mysticism to believe Mann’s garbage claims like that. Science, actual science as a process, is not part of the bilge that spews from Michael Mann.

Xinnie the Pooh
March 25, 2021 6:40 pm

From 1908:

The love of field and coppice
Of green and shaded lanes,
Of ordered woods and gardens
Is running in your veins.
Strong love of grey-blue distance,
Brown streams and soft, dim skies
I know, but cannot share it,
My love is otherwise.
I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.
I love her far horizons,
I love her jewel-sea,
Her beauty and her terror
The wide brown land for me!
The stark white ring-barked forests,
All tragic to the moon,
The sapphire-misted mountains,
The hot gold hush of noon,
Green tangle of the brushes
Where lithe lianas coil,
And orchids deck the tree-tops,
And ferns the warm dark soil.
Core of my heart, my country!
Her pitiless blue sky,
When, sick at heart, around us
We see the cattle die
But then the grey clouds gather,
And we can bless again
The drumming of an army,
The steady soaking rain.
Core of my heart, my country!
Land of the rainbow gold,
For flood and fire and famine
She pays us back threefold.
Over the thirsty paddocks,
Watch, after many days,
The filmy veil of greenness
That thickens as we gaze …
An opal-hearted country,
A wilful, lavish land
All you who have not loved her,
You will not understand
though Earth holds many splendours,
Wherever I may die,
I know to what brown country
My homing thoughts will fly.

Mike
March 25, 2021 6:57 pm

It’s not too late for Australia to forestall a dystopian future that alternates between Mad Max and Waterworld”

Michael Mann will go down in history as a most deplorable, self centered, transparent and generally odious individual.

Mike
Reply to  Mike
March 25, 2021 7:20 pm

Why? Because this statement shows without any shadow of doubt, that MM has now completely and utterly forsaken any semblance of scientific reason and has instead chosen political activism, using any and all known tricks to further his propaganda in the most cynical of ways…..by spewing a bald-faced lie which will only be taken seriously by a seemingly growing number of useful idiots who will – and are at this very moment in Melbourne – disrupting the smooth running of society using their delusions as a weapon. Mann is simply facilitating this with untruths which are obvious to anyone who cares to see. The man is a creep.

Jon R
March 25, 2021 8:00 pm

That quarter wits like this are able to get tenure tells you all you need to know.

mareeS
March 25, 2021 9:12 pm

We have climate stability in Australia. It is our sunburnt country, our land of droughts and flooding rains, vast horizons and jewelled seas, a wide brown land of beauty and terror, as poetically described by Dorothea MacKellar in 1908, so let us appreciate it without climate guilt being imposed on us.

Matthew Sykes
March 26, 2021 1:52 am

As I flew….” typical hypocrit. What a jerk this guy is.

Dennis
March 26, 2021 2:00 am

fires ring sysney 1994

I remember that bushfire period when all roads in and out of Sydney were closed because of the bushfires.

The land of droughts and flooding rains, where bushfires have been taking place way back in time and long before white settlement in January 1788.

Dennis
March 26, 2021 2:11 am

Watermelon Greens Australia and other Church of Climate Change members, climate hoaxers and warming creative accountants, call climate emergency at every opportunity, as in 2019/20 bushfires and now 2021 heavy rainfall and resulting floods.

By the way, in the Lower Hunter River NSW District the present flood is about the same as 1955 and according to local Aborigines these floods are not the worst, before 1840 there was a massive flood they say and using their reference points three times deeper around the City of Maitland.

BruceC
Reply to  Dennis
March 26, 2021 3:39 am

Huh?? Who says the present Hunter flood is about the same as 1955? The main street of Maitland didn’t even go under water in this ‘present’ flood – during the ’55 flood the main street was about 2 metres (~6 1/2 foot) under water! The 1955 flood had a peak of 12.5 metres, the peak of this flood is expected to be around 7.3 metres (Friday 26/03) at Maitland.

This ‘present’ flood is nothing like 1955.

Dennis
Reply to  BruceC
March 26, 2021 7:43 pm

Since 1955 a substantial levy bank has been constructed to protect the City of Maitland from flooding, the present flood came close to breaching the levy.

Dennis
Reply to  Dennis
March 26, 2021 7:47 pm

News, local news, 
Moderate floods are expected to stop at some of the hunters, and Maitland is expected to reach the highest benchmark on the Hunter River on Friday night. Water levels in Wollonby Brook fell slowly but below the minor flood lines in Burga and the Singleton on Friday. SES said it expects no more floods in the singleton. A small flood in Maitland followed the highest water mark, and SES predicted that the Hunter River would peak at a height of about 7.6 meters. This figure was corrected after previous concerns that a height of 8.5 meters would arrive on Saturday. Detective Chad Gillies, commander of the Port Stephens-Hunter Police District, said the waterways continued to swell despite constant rain in most of the area. “Thankfully, most of our community is now safe, has good communication with SES and is ready, and to this day there have been injuries and deaths in our area. No, “he said. “I can say that some of our residents have quarantine reports, but as I said, they are well prepared and well versed.” He said. He said the property was quarantined around Dungog, Maitland and Port Stephens. SES estimates that approximately 60 properties were blocked in the Hillsboro and Rosebrook areas near Tokal. On Thursday, Maitland Vale branch volunteers began operating flood boats to transport residents from Maitland Vale Road to the Luskintyre Road intersection between 9 am and 11 am or 3 pm and 5 pm. Did. The boat was scheduled to carry groceries and supplies by ferry until Sunday. Detective Gillies said that while the damage to the meteorological system was blamed elsewhere, as the long Easter weekend approaches, attention should be paid to the expansion of roads and waterways in the area. .. “What that means for us is that the risk isn’t over,” he said. “Especially in terms of road closures and road conditions that could be affected by last week’s events, we encourage everyone to really be aware of what is happening around the road and drive into that situation. In Barga, Wollonby Brook fell at 3.59 meters on Friday morning, but the water level on the Singleton River dropped from its peak on Thursday at 12.2 meters to 9.84 meters. “People in the lowlands of the Wollonby Brook region, which may be affected by floods, need to be prepared for quarantine and evacuation potential,” the SES said in a statement. Paramedics expected water to close Patty Road near Burga Public School and many bridges and lowland roads around Jerry’s Planes. I was afraid that Whittingham near the singleton would be isolated. The Meteorological Department predicts a shower in Newcastle on Monday after a cloudy but dry weekend. Forecasts are similar for Cessnock and Singleton, giving the waterways a few days to clear the floods that flooded the area last week. Hunter Water on Friday reported that storage in the region as a whole was 99.6%, up 34.1% in the same period last year and 4.5% last month. Only Anna Bay’s sand floor, estimated to be 94% of its capacity, has the remaining space. News: Our journalists are working hard to bring the latest news in the region to the community. To continue to access trusted content:

Patrick MJD
March 26, 2021 6:46 am

Australia is a fire ecology.

Firey
March 26, 2021 6:13 pm

Australia’s climate is affected on a cyclical basis by La Nina & El Nino. A so called climate scientist should know this.

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