Former Massachusetts undersecretary of Climate Change David Ismay, who resigned after a video emerged of him explaining his intention to break the will of people on fixed income.

Video Massachusetts Climate Official: “People on Fixed Income … We Have to Break Your Will”

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Joseph Zorzin; Massachusetts undersecretary of Climate Change David Ismay has resigned, after a video (see below) emerged of him explaining his intention to break the will of ordinary consumers, to make them stop emitting CO2.


posted by MASSFISCAL | 19753pc
February 11, 2021

MassFiscal Will Continue to Hold All Officials Accountable

The Massachusetts Fiscal Alliance made the following statement today following news that Governor Charlie Baker and Lt. Governor Karyn Polito’s controversial Undersecretary for Climate Change, David Ismay, stepped down from his powerful position on Wednesday night. The climate official made national news after remarks surfaced on Friday that were first reveled on MassFiscal’s YouTube page. You may watch Friday’s video by clicking here and further comments posted in Wednesday’s video by clicking here.

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From the Boston Herald;

Embattled Massachusetts climate official David Ismay resigns ‘immediately’

Adds in resignation letter shared with Herald: ‘I would like to apologize, again, for my comments’

By JOE DWINELL | and ERIN TIERNAN | | Boston HeraldPUBLISHED: February 11, 2021 at 9:46 a.m. | UPDATED: February 11, 2021 at 11:37 p.m.

David Ismay, the Baker administration’s $130,000-a-year climate change undersecretary, has resigned “immediately,” citing his incendiary comments.

In his resignation letter, Ismay wrote: “It is with great regret that I submit my resignation, effectively immediately, from the position of Undersecretary for Climate Change in the Executive Office of Energy and Environmental Affairs.”

The resignation letter is addressed to his boss, Secretary of Energy and Environmental Affairs Kathleen Theoharides. He emailed a copy to the Herald Thursday morning from his private hotmail account.

Read more:

The following is a video of David Ismay making his controversial remarks to the Vermont Climate Council.

I encourage you to click the youtube link to view the original, but given ongoing big tech censorship there is a chance it will disappear. Note this copy of the video has been cropped, to just show David Ismay’s face.

What is the point of a carbon tax or restrictions on oil and gas drilling, other than to “break the will” of businesses and consumers? Perhaps David Ismay is just being a little more honest than other climate activists, officials and politicians.

All climate activists have to offer people is coercion and poverty; if they had something better to offer, there would be no need for carbon fees and taxes, government expenditure, climate lockdowns, oil pipeline shutdowns, and punishment for non-compliance. People would eagerly embrace green solutions of their own free will.

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Justin Burch
February 12, 2021 2:06 pm

All he did is say out loud what they are thinking. This is the whole great reset think. To destroy us, break our wills.

Reply to  Justin Burch
February 12, 2021 2:49 pm

Justin, I think you are right. Those on fixed incomes will be broken as will the poor. Leftist totalitarians (Socialists and Communists) will also break the back of the middle class and grind the faces of the poor into the ground.
And a great truth in all this is that climate change is not the issue, power, riches, personal gain, fame, and elimination of democratic systems are the objectives.

Bill Parsons
Reply to  Justin Burch
February 12, 2021 4:01 pm

Yeah, too bad he resigned. We need more scoundrels speaking in their native tongue. They’re easier to spot that way.

Reply to  Bill Parsons
February 13, 2021 11:11 am

Well, okay, but really, a baseline assumption that they’re *all* scoundrels will rarely lead you far astray.

Reply to  Justin Burch
February 12, 2021 5:23 pm

Justin – good comment.

I generally agree with you about leftists, but we are are war and must distinguish who are our enemies.

My general word is “alarmists” even though it does not characterise all the “enemies” and other players.

Enemies include:-
1. Scientists who are true believers.
2. Scientists( and whole universities) who benefit if they “believe”.
3. Radical environmentalists in general.
4. Specific topic environmentalists who may not be radical but are happy to jump on the bandwagon.
5. Radical animal rights advocates who also promote climate change for their own agenda.
6. Social justice advocates of countless social issues, who also use the climate scare for their advantage.
7. Leftist Totalitarians (socialists and communists) who will stop at nothing to achieve their goals.
8. Politicians of any persuasion.
9. Self interested bureaucrats, that jump on any issue if if works to their advantage.
10. Any useful idiots who follow/believe any of the above.

11. Members of the public who may lean or be sympathetic to any of the above. These are NOT our enemies even if they are politically different to us.

There is considerable overlap in the above.

We need to know our enemies.
We need to know who to fight.
What are the strengths and weaknesses of each group.
Who can be turned.

On a quick look into David Ismay, IMO he appears to be an overlap of 3 and 9 above.

Gerard O'Dowd
Reply to  Waza
February 12, 2021 8:40 pm

Don’t forget the ESG alarmist warriors like Larry Fink CEO of the Wall Street Asset Manager BlackRock that made US corporate board adherence to Leftist social goals like “inclusiveness”, diversity, environmental justice, sustainability”, cutting Carbon emissions to save the planet criteria for ETF investment selection in passive index funds rather than traditional financial economic return criteria like ROE, ROA, shareholder returns, dividend yields, etc. Of course he’ll say investors should have this investment choice; but at what cost to investment returns if corporations lose their focus on the bottom line. Fink is the CEO of the biggest asset manager of passive investment funds on the planet. He’s implicitly coercing other corporations to take up leftist causes by threatening to exclude them from his iShares index funds ETF’s which are the investment of choice by many individual investors for their IRA and 401K accounts and institutional retirement accounts.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Gerard O'Dowd
February 13, 2021 6:42 am

Like all hedge funds etc around the world BlackRock are backing both horses and still have massive investments in fossil fuels that they are not going to disinvest from. Come to think of it oil companies are also major investors in unreliable energy. Anything to make more money.

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Reply to  Gerard O'Dowd
February 13, 2021 6:13 pm

Thanks Gerard
I will add to my list.
I will call them “ opportunist businessmen” who could be anyone from solar panel salesman to billion dollar hedge fund manager.

When I think of socialists and communists, my thoughts are not about sharing a nations resources, they are about the suffering under Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.

Ss and Cs are evil and must be fought, but they are only one player in the alarmist team.

Reply to  Waza
February 13, 2021 1:59 pm

Numbers 1 and 2 should begin with the word, “former.” Neither an advocate nor a profiteer can also be a scientist.

Reply to  Justin Burch
February 12, 2021 6:35 pm

His mistake is that he spoke publicly of the real, main, only, reason for the climate change farce.

Reply to  Justin Burch
February 13, 2021 4:50 am

And people there nodded in agreement

Pat Frank
Reply to  Redge
February 14, 2021 10:42 am

And felt virtuous while doing so.

I recall reading the diary of a young Moscow enthusiast who went to the Ukraine in 1933 to take the food of ‘anti-Soviet wreckers.’

He felt totally justified pulling up kitchen floors to take the food families hid to get them through the Winter. Their screams meant nothing to him.

The same righteous will to murder animates David Ismay and the people in his meeting.

MIke McHenry
February 12, 2021 2:35 pm

If they try to levy carbon tax there will be regular riots in DC

Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 12, 2021 3:50 pm

Here in England after years of cuts to the police farce, sorry force, they’ve been advertising on TV that they need another 20,000 police officers. I wonder what they feel they need to enforce that our current police force isn’t big enough to cope with. You’ve got the national guard we’re getting lots of extra bobby’s, I worry about where this is heading.

Richard Page
Reply to  Notanacademic
February 13, 2021 3:05 am

Eric – it’s everything. The UK police force, after years of cutbacks, really isn’t the service it used to be. Those 20,000 officers will just about be enough for it to do the job with none spare. There are no ‘extra’ bobby’s. Thatcher tried to persuade the armed forces to put troops on the street in the 80’s – they refused then but the option might still be open.

Reply to  Richard Page
February 13, 2021 12:37 pm

I hope you are right but the economy is on its arse thanks to an illness that 99.97% of people survive. Seems an odd time to decide we can rebuild our police force. Businesses that pay tax put money into the pot, policeman’s wages take from the pot and at the moment the pots empty. Simplistic maybe but I’m still worried, I hope they don’t start building new prisons!

Reply to  Notanacademic
February 13, 2021 2:04 pm

The UK should put more officers on the streets, and fire most of the higher ranks of Scotland Yard to pay for it. The once brilliant Yard has become a national embarrassment.

Reply to  jtom
February 13, 2021 3:06 pm

I think you are right but why 20,000 new officers now when the economy can least afford it. The government doesn’t give a dam if you or I are burgled,or mugged or if our cars are stolen,so they must have another reason. I suspect it might be something to do with being prepared for when the public finally gets pissed off with having their freedom taken away.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Notanacademic
February 14, 2021 10:44 am

They’ll very likely hire out of the ranks of BLM and Antifa. The new bobbie won’t be the old bobbie. And the UK will proceed apace to a police state.

How long before the 2 am knock at the door and people disappearing into gulags.

Reply to  Pat Frank
February 15, 2021 2:08 am

Very worrying!

Reply to  Notanacademic
February 18, 2021 4:59 pm

Uh, you do not care about females being raped? A large proportion of crime here is by repeat offenders.

Police investigation, including tailing prime suspects, takes considerable time.

Tracing financial scammers, who especially target elderly people, takes time.

(Yes, evil people can be traced, the person who bullied a teenager from the Coquitlam BC area has just been extradited from Holland to Canada to stand for charges – the teenager committed suicide due to his bullying. He was a prolific offender, convicted in Holland.)

John the Econ
Reply to  MIke McHenry
February 12, 2021 3:45 pm

The real reason for the new fences & razor wire.

Reply to  John the Econ
February 12, 2021 3:51 pm

And the good people say, “tear down this wall.”

February 12, 2021 2:48 pm

Yup, this is the classic example of a “gaffe”, a politician admitting to the truth.

Ab Mix-O'Lydian
Reply to  Kemaris
February 12, 2021 6:42 pm

Q. How can you tell an alarmist is lying?
A. Its lips are moving.

February 12, 2021 2:55 pm

Honestly, it sounds like he was making the point that there weren’t easy targets, these ‘bad guys’ going around polluting willy-nilly, anymore who could be broken down for easy ghg reductions. His point seemed to be that any further reductions come at the expense of regular people.

That said, I’d be rejoicing that someone who thinks that is something that needs doing is out of his cush bureaucratic job, except he’ll just be replaced with another, perhaps smoother talking, bureaucrat of the same ilk. Unfortunately, I think a lot of regular people will have to suffer a lot before we get to kick out all of these incompetent fools that want to run their lives.

I find it more disturbing than the clickbait title that people like this think that it’s acceptable to push forward in hurting the regular people to forward their authoritarian policies.

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Reply to  Monster
February 12, 2021 3:41 pm

It was a meeting of Vermont climate activists.
I would like to hear the others talk to confirm, but I think David felt at home and dropped his guard.
He and others probably say this all the time in private meetings.

Marxism and Neo-Marxism is founded in having a victim and a perpetrator.
Their political campaign fails when their is no perpetrator.
They are breaking two of the “Rules For Radicals”
1. Going after the victim.
2. Entering an area of debate they have no chance of winning. ( trying to justify why mum can’t collect her kids in a SUV)

A seasoned politician of any persuasion knows not to do 2. Above.

Reply to  Monster
February 12, 2021 4:00 pm

Environmental regulation always costs the “little guy,” not the big corporations or the wealthy. Lost jobs, lost wages, inflation, higher replacement and maintenance costs for hard goods.

Control of actual pollution, e.g. sulfur dioxide emissions, has a net benefit when spread over the population and time. “Greenhouse gas regulation” has only costs. (The sole hypothetical benefit would be a longer life for seawalls, ports, etc. – but the rise in sea level has not accelerated. Those costs are coming at the same time, for the same prices, whether there was anthropogenic CO2 or not.)

Ah, maybe I have found the way to keep my fingers on the keyboard – use the “source code” widget (two curly braces), then type. Let’s see whether this works or not.

Except, sigh, it italicized the entire blockquote, not just “then.” Better than nothing…

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Reply to  writing observer
February 13, 2021 5:01 am

Sea port and seal wall civil works are replaced at a rate faster than the need to cope with sea level rise. There simply isn’t a crisis. The same applies to housing. It is not built to last centuries. People will continue to build on the edges for water bodies as they see fit.

In the coffee table book Water worlds there are many ancient cities described which are under water now. Some are under 200 feet of ocean. A big one in NW India is 60 ft down. Manhattan used to be at sea level and is now 10 ft above. Why? Oyster shells. Look it up. There is no crisis.

February 12, 2021 2:57 pm

We are the silenced majority.

February 12, 2021 2:57 pm

Liberal MA snowplow contractors have been taking out our mailboxes over the last 2 storms here. That is a call for war! My neighbor revolted with this!

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Reply to  john
February 12, 2021 3:49 pm

In the 1967 Expo in Montreal there was a fantastic film in a wrap-around theatre all about Canadian winter. One of the best bits was the snow plow picking off mail boxes.

On a serious note, the notion that people must be forced to obey dictats of all sorts is well established in the ‘left’ (don’t know what else to call it). ‘You will do what I say is good for you because I say it.’

February 12, 2021 3:03 pm

It is truly outrageous to tax fuels to hear your home. Air Conditioning is arguably a luxury but heating is not. Cold can and will kill you.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Terry
February 12, 2021 4:05 pm

I always hear my house saying, “Heat me, Seymour! Heat me!”.
(Sorry. Just having some fun with a typo.8-)

Reply to  Terry
February 12, 2021 4:54 pm

It would be fun to see the residents of DC do without the luxury of A/C this summer.
They need to sacrifice for the cause.
Of course that will never happen.

Reply to  curly
February 13, 2021 2:15 pm

My father worked in a DC office before the days of AC. He said they worked two shifts, taking a couple of hours off during the hottest part of the day. It was hard to get anything done with paper clinging to your perspiring arms, ink smearing, and perspiration dripping from your face. Most don’t realize DC was built in a swamp, excuse me, on wetlands.

Now that most offices have windows that can’t be opened, office hours would have to be from midnight to eight a.m.

Joe Chang
February 12, 2021 3:08 pm

no different than any other leftist, just standard Dem/Left doctrine

Smart Rock
February 12, 2021 3:10 pm

The last thing he says on the video is “I can’t even say that publicly….”

He learned the hard way that EVERYTHING is public these days.

Watch the youtube video and look at the solemn nods of agreement from the other participants.

And he’s only apologizing for saying it, not for what he said.

Reply to  Smart Rock
February 12, 2021 7:53 pm

Also forever now

Richard (the cynical one)
February 12, 2021 3:26 pm

He resigned for saying it, or rather, for having been caught in public saying it.

He did not resign for wanting to do it, or for believing it was a good idea to do it, or for making plans to do it. Lesson: do the evil thing without opening your mouth about it.

Reply to  Richard (the cynical one)
February 12, 2021 3:39 pm

Oil is up almost 1.50 today which puts it up to around 62.50. Putin must be thrilled as well as some other nations such as Iran and Venezuela. Meanwhile fixed income people and those on the lower end financially will find their money no longer goes as far as it used to.

Reply to  goldminor
February 12, 2021 6:05 pm

The red state private land wells will be rolling in it. The blue state public land wells that Biden cut off – not so much.

February 12, 2021 3:43 pm

He was just doing his job….too well.

I’m sure that phrase has been used many many times inside the walls of the Kremlin. That and “my precious”

February 12, 2021 3:47 pm

Climate communications run wild, again.

Does he get the Obama Award for over the top community organizer?

February 12, 2021 3:52 pm

What did you expect in the state that keeps re-electing Edward Markey, the abusive climate priest?

lee riffee
Reply to  ResourceGuy
February 12, 2021 8:18 pm

Yes, Ed Markey, the guy who actually put forth a bill many years ago to try and regulate the g-forces on roller coasters and amusement park rides – what a nut job!

John the Econ
February 12, 2021 3:52 pm

Progressive War on the Middle Class:

A) Cause energy prices to escalate.

B) Point out that the poor are now suffering from “energy insecurity” and are dying as they now have to choose between food or heat.

C) Establish a massive new entitlement to resolve the problem, paid for by taxes on energy for the non-subsidized, which is largely the middle class.

D) Higher taxes and diminishing standard of living causes more of the middle class to slide into poverty.

E) As problem escalates, repeat.

Reply to  John the Econ
February 12, 2021 4:40 pm

Told you so, two decades ago:

Thank you Jim for your link to Yuri Besmenov’s 1984 interview, which I believe is excerpted from the longer interview I referred to above.

The Bezmenov interview is in no way “hate speech” – and censoring the longer Bezmenov interview says much about the values and priorities of the “fellow travelers” at YouTube. The Soviets called these sycophants their “useful idiots” in the West, who would help them to defeat the western democracies and replace them with Marxist dictatorships.

A few quotes by Lenin will shed further light on this process:

We can and must write in a language which sows among the masses hate, revulsion, and scorn toward those who disagree with us.

[There are many such examples in the global warming/climate change scam – for example, climate scammers call climate skeptics “deniers” and refuse to debate the bogus CAGW “settled science”.]

Truth is the most precious thing. That’s why we should ration it.

[aka “Lie, lie, lie!”]

There are no morals in politics; there is only expedience. A scoundrel may be of use to us just because he is a scoundrel.

Free speech is a bourgeois prejudice.

The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.

People always have been and they always will be stupid victims of deceit and self-deception in politics.

It is, of course, much easier to shout, abuse, and howl than to attempt to relate, to explain.

Democracy is indispensable to socialism.

The goal of socialism is communism.

The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.

Trust is good, but control is better.

As an ultimate objective, “peace” simply means communist world control.

One of the basic conditions for the victory of socialism is the arming of the workers Communist and the disarming of the bourgeoisie the middle class.

[aka “We must get rid of the Second Amendment and disarm the populace.”]

One man with a gun can control 100 without one.

Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.

[Is that four years of public school or four years of university, or both? Why are so many teachers doctrinaire leftists?]

Give me just one generation of youth, and I’ll transform the whole world.


February 12, 2021 7:09 pm

“Why are so many teachers doctrinaire leftists?]”

Some ideas:
It’s what they were taught by their own teachers and mentors.
They don’t know what they don’t know.
Most are government employees.
To go against the system means losing their job, their benefits, and their retirement.
To go against the system means social alienation.
They live in an environment that rewards group think and punishes free thinking and they have been in that environment since they were 5 years old.
Their work environment isolates them from free market competition.
They are union workers in addition to being government employees.

Steve Reddish
Reply to  KT66
February 12, 2021 8:19 pm

The most mis-managed workplace I ever experienced was working in a union shop contracted by a government bureaucracy. The gov. Overseers put in a new manager nearly every year, who always thought he knew a better way, even though never working in that area before.
The union officials spent their efforts insulating those with the longest time on the job from every new change. Their solution always meant replacing the newest workers with a new crop of untrained workers that could be trained up on the new procedures. A few long-timers held on to positions mostly insulated from changes.

Reply to  KT66
February 14, 2021 6:42 am
When your pension funds are tied to mitigation efforts. can you afford not to promote propaganda?

Reply to  John the Econ
February 13, 2021 6:58 am

The definition of poverty is a government dart board number where they allege to use things like the cost of energy. So basically we have a feed-back mechanism in energy / poverty. As price of energy goes up, the poverty threshold increases thus putting more people statistically into the poverty category, which organically expands the welfare rolls.

Since energy prices effect everything: food, utilities, ultimately rent and other items that require significant energy inputs, the CPI will also rise which feeds back into the poverty threshold raising that number to include even more people.

Gunga Din
February 12, 2021 3:53 pm

And here I thought the war was just against fossil fuel.
Now it’s us fossils!

February 12, 2021 3:54 pm

That’s exactly what the Waxman-Markey Carbon Tax bill would have done to everyone.

Reply to  ResourceGuy
February 12, 2021 6:07 pm

But it would have made their masters on wall street very wealthy indeed.

February 12, 2021 3:55 pm

Rename it the Climate Claptrap State.

February 12, 2021 4:01 pm

Adios, David Ismay!

To those reading this thread:

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
February 12, 2021 5:57 pm

I can assure you, when the dust settles he’ll just pop up somewhere else … and probably with a promotion and a new waterfront home.

Reply to  Rory Forbes
February 13, 2021 7:03 am

Of course. When you are a Made Man in the racketeering world, you will always fall upwards. Of course, a stingy $130k annual is wholly inadequate for maintaining the appropriate lifestyle for someone so important as Ismay in view of the anticipated increases in living expenses that he advocates – there will be more perqs and increases in compensation.

The destroyers of worlds must be kept immune to the diseases they spread.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  AWG
February 13, 2021 10:16 am

When you are a Made Man in the racketeering world, you will always fall upwards

Well put.

Reply to  Bob Tisdale
February 13, 2021 8:48 am

Ismay is dismayed….

February 12, 2021 4:22 pm

Left unsaid is by what criteria will the job be finished and his agency can be downsized?
These people have launched a never-ending war against life as we know it, and by doing so guaranteeing themselves and their posterity bureaucratic jobs forever.
Imagine all the govt jobs being created by the fight against climate change.
Left entirely unspoken is the fact that these efforts are useless in preventing climate change.

Dennis G Sandberg
February 12, 2021 5:02 pm

Some people never learn. He should have known he would get in trouble for being honest. He was simply stating the liberal agenda that has been in place since 1992:

June 1992, Maurice Strong was Secretary General of the U.N. Conference on Environment and Development:

”A shift is necessary toward lifestyles less geared to environmentally damaging consumption patterns. We may get to the point, where the only way of saving the world will be for industrialized civilization to collapse. Isn’t it our responsibility to bring this about?”

“We need a system of global governance through which nations can cooperate and deal with issues they cannot deal with alone. The ultimate example is climate change.”

 In 1992, Al Gore claimed, “Only an insignificant fraction of scientists deny the global warming crisis. The time for debate is over. The science is settled.”

February 12, 2021 5:12 pm

Find a youthful urbanite living downtown in a multi storey condo complex, and you will find someone who thinks CO2 emissions are evil. They have it too easy to heat their home, and too easy to travel on the subway to their e-career or i-job. They don’t even push paper, just keyboard. Psychologically they think they don’t have to do anything but turn a knob to heat their condo, and it will also be easy going the reverse direction. As a kid I used to go with my grandfather to get coal. Heating the house actually was a lot of work. Made me appreciate natural gas when it was pipelined in. Youthful urbanites won’t catch on until someone turns off their heat and they have to gather things from nature to heat their condo.

D. Anderson
February 12, 2021 5:23 pm

Public servant.

February 12, 2021 5:23 pm

None have said it better than C. S. Lewis

” Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

Paul Penrose
Reply to  J.D.
February 13, 2021 11:02 am

“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”

Martin Luther King, Jr.

February 12, 2021 5:23 pm

The Climate Cult is a death cult.

February 12, 2021 5:56 pm

USA is the only nation that can create money that can be used globally. That ability enables US citizens to live off the productivity of other nations. Trump was restoring the balance. Biden with his climate “ambition” is going to get back to trading newly created dollars for goods that other countries produce.

US per capita energy consumption is twice that of Europe. That difference is a direct consequence of the US ability to trade dollars for oil. Trump was working to make US self-sufficient with oil. Biden is going to change that.

If US do not reign in consumption then they will be back to trading dollars for oil and all the other imports.

US enjoys huge benefits from being the world banker. Conservation has never been a compelling objective. There is no economic imperative like other nations are required to meet.

The Biden policies will create inflation in oil and energy prices as dollars get traded for energy supplied from the rest of the world while US energy production falls. It costs US nothing to create dollars to buy energy supplies and goods. Other countries have to trade something tangible for energy supplies and goods they import.

At some point other nations will recognise that they have enough US dollars and look for something that has worth for buying goods; like the yuan.

Reply to  RickWill
February 12, 2021 7:06 pm

In his seminal books “America Alone” and “After America”, realist, author, commenter and broadcaster Mark Steyn expresses similar concerns about what happens when the balances of world finances & trade inevitably change, and the USA has to deal with a debt level that it cannot service or reduce.

I hope to not be around when that situation eventuates, but I fear that my grandchildren will, because the whole world will be impacted.

Reply to  Mr.
February 12, 2021 7:37 pm

US never has to worry about servicing the debt that is denominated in USD. It could quickly get other nations to surrender their dollar holdings by taking interest rates negative.

The problem occurs when countries like China see nothing in the US that they want. They bought the presidency for Biden with less than USD100bn. They still hold 9 times that. Unless Japan steps up and starts buying elections in competition with China then the USD are more or less useless to them.

China will be pressing to have the yuan accepted as the global currency before the population grows old. That way they can use the global yuan to secure the productivity of other countries at no actual cost as US has done for 70 years. A young and vibrant Africa clearly in their sights.

China is already working on a digitised version of the yuan that the government will back and protect. With a pliable globalist Biden in office in the US, that is something they should achieve over the next 4 years.

Reply to  RickWill
February 13, 2021 11:40 am

The dollar may slide or fail, but China backed currency is not going to be a reality. There is no possible way that 80% of the world economy will partake in the suspension of disbelief and enjoy the fiction of China.

Tom in Florida
February 12, 2021 6:00 pm

Why does a person who actually believes that climate change is dangerous and wants to do something about it have to be paid $130K?

Justin McCarthy
February 12, 2021 6:03 pm

Climate Fascists = Nice laughing bureau-cat in shirt and tie.

February 12, 2021 6:50 pm

Poorer people live in older homes. They have less insulation, and old, inefficient furnaces, window AC and leaky doors and windows. Fixing any one of these problems costs thousands, and the interest on the loans is predatory. Fixing only half of these problems will cost more than they save in utility bills.
Fifteen years ago I insulated my home to the levels needed to meet HP insulation requirements. As I already had whole house AC, changing to a HP lowered my electric bill for the year, ignoring the future value cost of the insulation, Last week I looked at bringing it up to new insulation standards. Using very favorable Home Equity loan, it would take ten years to pay for the insulation using the projected savings. Thuss it is not going to get done.

Kit P
Reply to  UzUrBrain
February 12, 2021 8:35 pm

Poorer people live in older homes. They have less insulation, ….

So you are an expert on poor people?

Insulation is cheap and it does not take a rocket scientist to install it.

The problem is that efficiency improvement are a case of diminishing returns.

Hearing and A/C systems have a known mechanical life. I have replaced systems in 3 houses over 30 years before they failed. This year I took the stimulus check to replace my system.

The bid I went with was $12k less than the highest bid. I was skeptical based on the wholesale cost of the equipment. To make a reasonable profit, they would have to do a good job.

They did an excellent job. Two guys showed up on time with the new equipment on the truck and started to remove my old system. One of the technicians came over and asked me why I was replacing it. Because of health issues, we would be staying in a hotel until fixed and with covid not a good choice.

Two hours into the job, a second crew arrived to help with the heavy lifting phase. Their truck had some old units on it. The old unit ended up in the back of pickup of the guy who questioned me. I suspect he knows a ‘poor’ person who will get a few more years out of it.

Here is my point. There is a guy that made $130k and is out of job because he does not understand ‘poor’ people. He has zero ability to keep his house warm or cold. If he thinks my house should not use energy, his house will go first.

Every overpaid goverment hack, including POTUS, sets the thermostat the same was I do. ‘Honey where do you want to set the temperature?’

February 12, 2021 7:18 pm

He knew that what he believed he couldn’t say publicly. How many other things do these terrible people believe that they don’t say publicly?

Bob Meyer
February 12, 2021 7:25 pm

Ivan Drago wannabe?

February 12, 2021 7:46 pm

Where’s all the AGW trolls backing this guy up ?

griff, loy, oily, and slimy, etc….. surely this is exactly what you would recommend !

Reply to  fred250
February 13, 2021 8:51 am

Forgot simple simon? Maybe that’s slimy…. And beth-antbrain.

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February 12, 2021 7:57 pm

The religion is strong there and you can see it in the words of the Governor.

February 12, 2021 8:03 pm

What college program did he come out of? We need to know which climate madrassa that was.

James F. Evans
February 12, 2021 8:31 pm

“We have to break your will”

Say’s it all.

That’s not science.

Science is not a struggle session,

Reply to  James F. Evans
February 12, 2021 8:50 pm

And with that one comment he has woken up anyone who heard it.

The resolve to battle this AGW CRAP and its socialist/marxist agenda, will be greatly increased.

That is why he had to resign.

He gave normal people ammunition.

Opened people’s eyes.

sky king
February 12, 2021 8:51 pm

What a disgusting POS that guy is. Cancel him and dox him!
But there are thousands more of the same lined up for his position.

sky king
Reply to  sky king
February 12, 2021 8:57 pm

And Obama said the same thing (“energy prices will necessarily skyrocket”) and he was made POTUS 2 times.

February 12, 2021 9:10 pm

So we’ve moved from Triumph of the Will to Crushing of the Will?
What’s infuriating is that we already have the technology to move seamlessly from a high emissions system (coal) to a low emissions system (nuclear) via a medium emissions system (gas) over the next 20-30 years without compromising a grid viability. I would reserve the high emissions fuels for developing countries so that they can achieve the same standard of living as us over the next 30-50y, then move over to low emissions when they are rich enough to do so. Putting up with a bit of warming is worth it for the smooth transition.
Our current road looks like grid catastrophe coupled with authoritarian fiat iced with energy poverty.

February 12, 2021 10:11 pm

Nice, very useful. i appreciate it

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February 12, 2021 11:21 pm

What about all the other people on the video conference call? Where are their resignations? Watching them all bobbing their heads in assent is every bit as bone chilling as the “incendiary” original comment.

very old white guy
February 13, 2021 4:08 am

eliminating his ability to expel CO2 should be a primary concern of those who live in Mass.

February 13, 2021 7:08 am
February 13, 2021 8:14 am

I noticed all the talking heads nodding in agreement as he spewed his nonsense to the Vemront Climate Council. Whose members are entirely composed of appointed non-elected bureaucrats, busybodies, gadflies and toadies.
Your typical liberal “Council”, ready to rubber stamp anything the administration proposes.

Good riddance to that idiot, do you think there’s any chance that the rest of these sycophants will get the message and resign?

Gordon A. Dressler
February 13, 2021 8:24 am

Sad that such an underling became the fall guy . . . the MSM should have followed the trail to the very top (POTUS) to find the basic advocate of this philosophy and edict.

February 13, 2021 10:13 am

And this year’s John Holdren Award in Public Stupidity goes to……

February 13, 2021 12:36 pm

“…explaining his intention to break the will of ordinary consumers, to make them stop emitting CO2.: – article

“Emitting CO2”?????? Humans emit CO2 when they exhale. Is he saying we should stop breathing? Looks like it to me. In fact, I consider that to be exactly what he meant.

However, I don’t “emit” any more CO2 than anyone else, so my response to his asinine suggestion/instruction/demand/whatever is: Ismay, you should consider surgery: get your mouth sewn shut.

It is ironic that he fails to understand that he will one day be in the very position of the people he despises so much, that he wants them dead.

February 13, 2021 1:42 pm

Never forget: these people hate you. To them, we are mere insects – ants to be stepped on.

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February 13, 2021 2:33 pm

Ignoring whether climate change is real or not, whatever happened to democracy? What would the vote be if people had to choose between (1) reducing their standard of living, today; and (2) maintain their standard of living but risk having to adapt to a new climate that may reduce their future standard of living?

It is the height of arrogance for the minority to force their decision on the majority.

February 13, 2021 4:03 pm

Don’t forget to undercount their deaths in that horrid fixed income crowd. Gov. Cuomo will show you how that’s done.

February 14, 2021 5:19 pm

Just the fact that a state has an ‘Undersecretary for Climate Change’ is revolting. Its government by the Party for the Party.

February 14, 2021 9:50 pm

I live in Connecticut but listen online to Howie Carr’s show from Boston and heard this as it was breaking. He said that 62% of all emissions come from senior citizens and people in residential neighborhoods. And since there are no more bad people to blame, these groups are the ones who have to sacrifice. And his infamous words “We have to break their will.” What exactly is that for a senior citizen? The will to keep their house warm, or enough gas in the car to obtain groceries and other necessities? Of course you can rest assured that beautiful people like Ismay will never be cold, or go hungry, or lack in anything they want at all. The only thing surprising to me is his resignation.

February 15, 2021 5:21 pm

And turn his heat off !!

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