CNN Fact Check Admits Joe Biden Told an “Untruth” About Fracking

“Will you remember that Texas?” The Trump / Biden debate moment when Biden realised he just promised to destroy the jobs of millions of oil workers

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The internet never forgets, even when the masters of the universe appear to be doing everything in their power to suppress narratives which hurt Joe Biden’s political campaign.

Fact Check: Misleading new Trump ad claims Biden plans to ‘end fracking’

By Tara Subramaniam, CNN
Updated 1937 GMT (0337 HKT) October 26, 2020

Washington (CNN)Less than two weeks before Election Day, a new Trump campaign ad scheduled to air in Pennsylvania misleadingly portrays former Vice President Joe Biden’s stance on fracking, a drilling method used to extract oil or natural gas. 

There is some basis for the Trump campaign’s continued attacks against Biden’s stance on fracking. During the July 2019 Democratic primary debate, CNN’s Dana Bash asked whether there would be “any place for fossil fuels, including coal and fracking, in a Biden administration?” to which Biden responded, “No, we would — we would work it out. We would make sure it’s eliminated and no more subsidies for either one of those, either — any fossil fuel.”

During the final presidential debate, Trump referenced these past remarks from Biden, prompting the former vice president to falsely insist he never said he opposed fracking. Biden then tried to clarify his position and claimed his past opposition was specifically about fracking on federal land only. While it’s untrue for Biden to say he never voiced an opposition towards fracking, it’s also inaccurate for Trump to claim Biden’s current plan is to end fracking if elected.

Read more: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/26/politics/trump-biden-fracking-ad-fact-check/index.html

Given Biden has apparently shifted position a few times on the fracking issue, and even CNN admits he recently told an “untruth” about his past statements on fracking during the last Presidential Debate, surely it is reasonable to suspect Joe Biden does not want to come clean on his fracking policy.

What are the alternative possibilities? If Biden didn’t realise he was speaking an untruth about his previous statements on such an important issue, because his memory is failing, that would in some ways be even worse.

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PC_Bob
October 27, 2020 2:11 pm

Despite his vehement denials, Joe Biden has said he would end fracking on MANY different occasions! Does he not know that the internet NEVER forgets? ANYTHING? Or does he think Americans don’t remember these things? Either way, he is sadly mistaken!

Sweet Old Bob
Reply to  PC_Bob
October 27, 2020 2:28 pm

Joe IS a fracking idiot !

😉

Greg
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
October 27, 2020 9:18 pm

Biden is totally shot at this stage. The George um, George erm …. comment was clear, clinical evidence of dementia. For a moment he actually forgot who he was running against, he forgot who the pres. of the USA is. The last 15y disappeared in the bat of a synapse and his association of US president came up with George Erm. ( Assuming that this was not a flashback to George Erm Sr. )

Soon they will find him wandering around in the woods of his Delaware mansion, dressed in his nightgown, looking the puppy he used to have when he was five years old.

Senile dementia is tragic, but to pretend that this guy can seriously assume and fulfill the responsibility of the office of President of the United States is laughable.

He will get hit with an amendment 25 process or get permanently tucked away out of sight as soon as he is inaugurated.

A vote for Biden is a vote for president Harris. A candidate who only polled about 3% with the Dems themselves in the primaries.

The Biden/Harris ticket is not just showing contempt for the nation as a whole it is showing, once again, the total contempt the DNC has for their own voters.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Greg
October 28, 2020 9:13 am

Joe thought he was giving a history lesson on King George.

Bob Meyer
Reply to  Greg
October 28, 2020 10:01 am

And part of that 3% thought that they were voting for James “Kamala” Harris, the wrestler, who tragically passed away a couple of months ago.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/10/us/wwe-kamala-james-harris-death/index.html

I’ll bet if he ran against the other Kamala Harris, like almost every other Democrat, he would have beaten her.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Greg
October 28, 2020 5:37 pm

“( Assuming that this was not a flashback to George Erm Sr. )”

That’s what I was thinking. Was Biden thinking about George W., or George H.W.? Or maybe he was thinking about George Washington.

Philo
Reply to  Greg
October 29, 2020 6:14 am

I’ll be a bit gentle on the guy. He no longer can understand what is going on.

The people backing are using cruel an unusual punishment since the criminal can,t understand what is going on.

Editor
Reply to  PC_Bob
October 27, 2020 2:32 pm

PC_Bob, Biden flip-flops on this so many times it makes a person’s head hurt:

Depends on who he’s talking to.

Regards,
Bob

Gunga Din
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
October 27, 2020 4:03 pm

And he hopes the voters are as forgetful as he is. 😎

Bob Meyer
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
October 28, 2020 10:02 am

I think that you have explained my headache.

AndyHce
Reply to  PC_Bob
October 27, 2020 3:47 pm

More tha a few sites are doing quite a bit of “forgetting” anything unpleasant, to their way of looking at the world.

Sara
Reply to  PC_Bob
October 27, 2020 6:00 pm

I have a compilation video that someone produced in which Biden says ‘end fracking’ several times and doesn’t back out of it. So CNN is incorrect in this case, whether they like it or not. We all know he’s just doing that to get vote, nothing else.

Loydo
Reply to  Sara
October 27, 2020 7:57 pm

Wait, one of these guys told a lie?

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Loydo
October 27, 2020 9:14 pm

It’s not that he lied…it’s that the media lied to protect him.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Loydo
October 28, 2020 9:06 am

Bobolinski for Attorney General! Only Fox news is covering the ChiCom corruption of Joe.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Sara
October 28, 2020 1:14 pm

Notice CNN can’t even use the word ‘lie’ in context with Biden – it’s ‘untruth’.

Martin
Reply to  Joel Snider
October 28, 2020 2:12 pm

surely he “miss-spoke” 🙂

Colin
Reply to  Martin
October 28, 2020 3:57 pm

Who is she? Never heard of Miss Spoke

Ktm
Reply to  Sara
October 29, 2020 6:28 am

So Joe’s handlers craft short carefully worded position statements, Joe contradicts them numerous times in debates and campaign events, but the media insists that Joe’s “position” is whatever his website says about it.

I can’t think of any other time when the media has ignored the numerous plain statements or actions of a politician and used a talking point summary as their ultimate source.

Scissor
October 27, 2020 2:24 pm

And pay no attention to those emails, photos, video and audio recordings, or the witnesses.

Robert of Texas
October 27, 2020 2:26 pm

I think this makes Biden just Fracking Stupid.

Rod Evans
October 27, 2020 2:35 pm

Poor old Joe, he is now reduced to asking CNN what he said and was it the truth about a subject he has no recollection of.
In another moment of candid recollection he said…” Watch my lips, I did not have sexual relations with that woman, I would die for my country, but I would never ask my country to die for me, there you go again yes we can, it’s the economy stupid……”

Scissor
Reply to  Rod Evans
October 27, 2020 3:40 pm

He was against pedophilia before he was for it. His daughter is telling all.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Scissor
October 27, 2020 4:03 pm

Incestual too?

Scissor
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 28, 2020 5:19 am

Ashley Biden thinks that “Inappropriate Showers” with her father Joe have contributed to her heightened sexuality and drug problems.

Reply to  Rod Evans
October 27, 2020 3:44 pm

Joe “hidin” Biden really did not say
everything he said.
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/808152.The_Yogi_Book_

Ed Zuiderwijk
October 27, 2020 2:39 pm

This journalist clearly bends over backwards pretending that Joe has not actually said what Joe did say. And of course the president was untruthful too, because Joe only half lied, you must understand that, obviously. That’s journalism for you, nowadays. Walter Cronkite turns in his grave.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
October 27, 2020 3:53 pm

A) It’s a CNN fact check. No journalism involved. They would need an army of fact checkers to point out all of CNN’s lies.
B) Walter Cronkite lied also. He wanted the war in Vietnam to end so he downplayed US military victories to get the man on the street against the war.

Drake
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
October 28, 2020 8:55 am

Don’t forget the nightly count of the dead, on CBS evening news. Remind you of anything NOW?

The daily update of the China Virus death toll in the US, with no real context, as in it is throughout the population spreading rapidly but not killing many due to many of the most susceptible to death from contracting this virus have already had it and died.

All coverage meant to benefit old slow Joe.

Steve Case
October 27, 2020 2:45 pm

My God, all you have to do is look at “The Green New Deal” and you will know what the Democrats have in mind. One has to believe that put in power they will actually do what they say they will do. After all, they have already started.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Steve Case
October 27, 2020 4:19 pm

Come on, man!
“The Green New Deal” is now called “The Biden Plan”!
(A turd by any other name is still a …)

lee
Reply to  Gunga Din
October 27, 2020 8:39 pm

Get it now. Biden Gel for that glossy finish. 😉

Curious George
October 27, 2020 2:47 pm

There is no reason to “fact check” Joe Biden. His only strong point is that he is not Donald Trump.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Curious George
October 27, 2020 4:05 pm

Like eating dog poo because you don’t like brocoli…

Gunga Din
Reply to  Curious George
October 27, 2020 4:12 pm

😎
Besides, he wouldn’t stay President. Harris would.
(Cue the clips of Joe and Harris both talking of a Harris administration.)

Enginer01
Reply to  Gunga Din
October 27, 2020 6:41 pm

Not to jump into politics, but others are saying data says Kamala Harris is an “anchor baby” and thus unable to become President.

Greg
Reply to  Enginer01
October 27, 2020 9:25 pm

Oh cool a Birthers reboot. Would that be born again birthers?

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Enginer01
October 28, 2020 4:58 am

Harris’ parents’ citizenship has no bearing on hers, in this case. She was born in Oakland, California and is thus a “natural born citizen”. There’s no traction on this issue. She’s still a left wing socialist idiot, but that’s a different story.

Bruce Ploetz
October 27, 2020 2:52 pm

To be fair, Joe Biden is not for or against fracking, it is unlikely he has any idea what it is. He just parrots whatever his handlers tell him to say when he can remember it.

James
Reply to  Bruce Ploetz
October 27, 2020 3:43 pm

Joe is confused, Joe for fracking, but he thought he was “fracking” Jill while his other wife was still alive.

DonM
Reply to  Bruce Ploetz
October 28, 2020 9:54 am

One of the problems is trying to be fair.

The Harris/Biden camp doesn’t give a rat crap about fair … only about power and winning. Fair is defined, to them, as a situation that will be interpreted with usually peripheral or indirect (or even direct) benefits to them.

Reply to  Bruce Ploetz
October 29, 2020 2:39 pm

ROFL.

A Green candidate in an election a Canada clearly did not understand what fracing is.

(FTR, ‘fracing’ is the correct spelling, from ‘hydraulic fracturing’.

DMA
October 27, 2020 2:52 pm

Joe’s current position is to end fossil fuel use by 2035 and net zero emissions by 2050. Both of those require the end of fracking.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  DMA
October 27, 2020 4:18 pm

Not necessarily. We could sell all that oil and natural gas to other countries. that way OUR “carbon” will be lower, but we can still frack.

MarkW
Reply to  DMA
October 27, 2020 5:35 pm

He won’t ban fracking. He will ban all oil exploration and development, but n the process won’t specifically ban fracking.

ResourceGuy
October 27, 2020 3:03 pm

It depends on whether he is in the swing state of PA or not at the time.

Redge
Reply to  ResourceGuy
October 28, 2020 12:17 am

Biden’s a swinger?

And at his age, you’da thunk it?

icisil
October 27, 2020 3:08 pm

Can we have a fact check on this, please.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  icisil
October 27, 2020 3:35 pm

Very good!

Tom Foley
Reply to  icisil
October 27, 2020 3:35 pm

America, are these two really the best you can come up with? Out of 330 million?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Tom Foley
October 27, 2020 4:20 pm

Trump, yes. Biden, who the hell knows.

I’d be willing to bet that our economy pre-covid was better than yours.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Tom Foley
October 27, 2020 4:26 pm

Justice Amy Coney Barrett is among our best.
(That’s why the MSM and the Dems are going nuts, on steroids)

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Tom Foley
October 27, 2020 4:32 pm

Remember, half of all people are below average intelligence . . . and, at least in the US, many of those end up as career politicians of one form or another.

🙂

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
October 27, 2020 7:50 pm

Gordon
Counting those with senility, and those who have fried their brains on recreational drugs, and those who have suffered traumatic brain injuries from accidents, MORE than half have IQs below 100.

Those who can’t even teach teachers have no recourse but to go on the public dole, or become politicians. But, I repeat myself.

DonM
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
October 28, 2020 9:49 am

depends on how you define “average”.

(also may depend on how you define “half”, “all”, “people”, & “below” if you are dealing with a Clinton Democrat).

Dena
Reply to  Tom Foley
October 27, 2020 5:35 pm

I blame it on the primary system. People voting for the person who will represent the party just doesn’t seem to work as well as the smoke filled rooms.
Also remember the really smart people are far too smart to get involved in government. You end up with half the people hating you and you become a politician. Politicians are best known for kissing babies while stealing their candy. Only somebody who doesn’t know any better or who wants to steal the people blind would run for office.

Juan Slayton
Reply to  Dena
October 27, 2020 7:11 pm

Dena,
I see the primary system as a violation of our right of free association. When anybody or any group can, by merely registering as adherents of your party, take it over and change its platform, it becomes impossible for groups of like minded citizens to organize and advocate for their beliefs over time.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Foley
October 27, 2020 5:36 pm

Considering the quality of politicians in other countries, our two aren’t that bad.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Tom Foley
October 27, 2020 7:46 pm

Tom
What well-balanced person would really want the thankless job? It takes someone with a lust for power or a need to feed their ego to be willing to put up with all the abuse, especially if they are Republican! What the president puts up with from the Media would be considered work place harassment if it came from other employees.

sycomputing
Reply to  Tom Foley
October 28, 2020 4:37 am

America, are these two really the best you can come up with?

Considering President Trump runs circles around every other world leader currently on the face of the planet, while at the same time serving all people of the United States admirably in what matters, don’t you contradict yourself there Foley?

Loydo
Reply to  sycomputing
October 29, 2020 4:32 am

“every other world leader”
How disappointing. Irrespective of it’s accuracy, that’s one of the silliest, insular comments I’ve read in ages.

Loydo
Reply to  sycomputing
October 29, 2020 4:48 am

This is what a majority of Americans and most other people on the face of the planet think of Trump. A buffoon who accidentally won a reality tv show.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  icisil
October 27, 2020 4:48 pm

“One whiskey!”

Tim Gorman
October 27, 2020 3:19 pm

The socialist Democrats are going to make the entire US into federal property. So when Joe says no fracking on federal lands he *is* going to end fracking!

Stevek
October 27, 2020 3:34 pm

Facebook and Twitter, in order to grow even bigger need China’s market. The reason they back Biden is as favor to the Chinese government so can gain market share in China.

James
October 27, 2020 3:40 pm

CNN Fact Check Admits Joe Biden Told an “Untruth” About Fracking
I have never believed we are already in end times. I do now!

icisil
October 27, 2020 3:47 pm

Check out how Biden slurs and mispronounces words.

https://twitter.com/RubyRockstar333/status/1321097372106170369

John Sandhofner
October 27, 2020 4:14 pm

“it’s also inaccurate for Trump to claim Biden’s current plan is to end fracking if elected.” When you lie and flip-flop as much as Joe does, you can pick videos where he says both things. So which one does he really intend to back? Let’s face it as a liberal his desire will be to end it.

Mad Mac
October 27, 2020 4:27 pm

Joe OBiden dementiacrat for Senate er President is the way I refer to him. Or the old hair sniffer ain’t what he used to be, ain’t what he used to be (apologies to the old gray mare).

Clay Sanborn
October 27, 2020 4:31 pm

That’s the problem with lying – you have to keep track of the lie you told, and to whom you told it. Of course if the lie was told on any media, pretty much everyone should have access to it, so it is stupid to think you can get away with that lie. However, being coddled by the MSM which itself lies all the time, Biden and his lies are heralded by the kindred media.

Bill Rocks
October 27, 2020 4:49 pm

He has no understanding of hydraulic fracture stimulation which began in the late 1940s in Kansas and Colorado. The fact that he is willing to base his industrial and energy policy on talking points about which he knows nothing is most disturbing. Very dangerous for the USA people.

Climate believer
Reply to  Eric Worrall
October 28, 2020 6:43 am

“Of course most of them have no clue what running out of oil and gas would really be like – they just think those clever engineer chaps should figure out a solution.”

Of course, it will be like the transition from Super 8 to 4K HD ….. S/

Steve Cushman
Reply to  Bill Rocks
October 27, 2020 6:55 pm

My maternal grandfather & father were long time employees of one of the fragments of Rockefeller’s Standard Oil. I remember reading articles in the company magazine sent to all employees & registered stock holders. I specifically remember articles on well development using hydraulic fracturing. I also remember articles in the late 70’s & early 80’s about trying to extract oil & gas from shale. The problem to be solved was to increase the area of the well in the hydrocarbon bearing shale. Directional drilling solved the problem as well as minimized the footprint of the wellheads; thereby minimizing environmental impacts on the surface.

Steven Cushman
October 27, 2020 4:54 pm

Joe’s changing stance on fracking reminds me of another Democrat who ran for president. “I was for the war before I was against it”.

Joe is a pathological liar, is one now & has always been. His instinct is lie when the truth would serve him better. He may now be cognitively impaired & having been in national politics for 47 years he seems to be ignorant about NEXIS before the internet & the internet never forgetting anything uploaded to a website.

DonM
Reply to  MarkW
October 28, 2020 9:44 am

and what would the “everyone, without restriction, everywhere, anytime, should vote” advocates have to say about the ability to correct a mistake (checked Biden) on an individual ballot?

What would Sotomayer rule as the constitution interpreter?

Pat from kerbob
October 27, 2020 6:18 pm

Biden is an idiot
There is no need to “ban” fracking outright.
The template for destroying the energy industry while pretending to support it is well established here in canada.
Just keep fencing it in, death of a thousand cuts.
Biden deserves to lose for being dumb enough to talk openly of shutting the industry down

Damiel kampo
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
October 29, 2020 6:10 pm

Joe is no idiot just look at his GREAT Finance ABILITY making MONEY in China 😁!!! Well a little HELP from Hiden Hunter 😂😂😂

Mr.
October 27, 2020 6:56 pm

We all have to remember that as Christopher Hitchens revealed in his book “Nobody Left To Lie To”, the Clinton strategy was “tri-angulation”, which was telling one thing to one regional audience, and exactly another thing to a different regional audience.

The Democrats’ playbook hasn’t changed.

Prjindigo
October 27, 2020 7:49 pm

Democrats never bother to learn anything.

Republicans never bother to tell the truth about anything.

October 27, 2020 8:21 pm

The main objection to fracking is polluting groundwater. It is completely absurd, fracking happens thousands of feet underground. Do you know anyone who had to dig their well 5,000 feet down? I don’t, usually around a hundred feet or less.

Wow, what a crock…

Patrick MJD
October 27, 2020 9:51 pm

All the MSM are now scrambling to say he didn’t say that. LOL…

Joseph Zorzin
October 28, 2020 4:08 am

And now Trump should explain what it’ll mean to end fracking. The current cheap price for gasoline will end. No more under $2/gallon. The price will probably triple – at least. Nobody wants that.

Joe Ebeni
October 28, 2020 4:28 am

https://www.aoghs.org/technology/hydraulic-fracturing/
“Fracking” for over 150 years. Do a web search for “E.A.L. Roberts”
Shortly after the Civil War, Army engineer veteran Roberts started “fracturing” oil wells to increase production dramatically. He received a patent for what he called “superincumbent fluid tamping.” He would lower a “torpedo” filled with gunpowder down a well, fill the well with water to tamp the explosive and then explode the charge. Voila—”fracking” in the 1860’s

Olen
October 28, 2020 8:22 am

The cat is out of the bag and CNN has a reputation of not telling the truth without evidence. I don’t watch CNN anymore than I would watch Baghdad Bob.

beng135
October 28, 2020 9:22 am

Funny how they word-smith (Orwellian-style) “lie” into “untruth”. Well, actually not funny at all.

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