Do they really care about science ?

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Do they really care about science ?

Here is one latest results on hurricane activity in the Caribbean and eastern sea coast of USA.

“Using longer sediment cores (888 cm) and more reliable age-control, this study revises and temporally expands a previous study from TPBH [the Bahamas] that underestimated the sedimentation rate. TPBH records at least 13 ≥ category 2 hurricanes per century between 1500 to 1670 CE, which exceeds the 9 ≥ category 2 hurricanes per century within 50 km of TPBH since 1850 CE. The eastern United States also experienced frequent hurricanes from 1500 to 1670 CE, but frequency was depressed elsewhere in the Atlantic Ocean. This suggests that spatial heterogeneity in Atlantic hurricane activity since 1850 CE could have persisted throughout the last millennium.”

Read all about it in the link provided.

Echo please.


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23 thoughts on “Do they really care about science ?

    • Particularly in the North Atlantic and Mediterranean. There is plenty of data on that, but it appears to follow a 1500-yr cycle that is not a solar cycle.

      Sorrel, Philippe, et al. “Persistent non-solar forcing of Holocene storm dynamics in coastal sedimentary archives.” Nature Geoscience 5.12 (2012): 892-896.

      Within the LIA took place the bottoms of three different cycles in short succession. The 2,500 and 1,000-yr solar cycles, and the 1,500-yr tidal cycle. This confluence was an important factor in making the LIA the coldest time in the Holocene.

  1. Hurricanes are generated through the *differential* in temperature between disturbed surface water and cooler atmospheric temperatures… an increase in hurricane rate mandates that either the water gets hotter or the air gets cooler.

    This could literally mean that the thermometer was invented during an abnormal period of cold climate, thus skewing 111% of what we know about global climate. (adjusted for fudge factors)

    Additionally, large subcontinental glaciers displace magma and may actually be the cause of plate tectonic movements by “dragging anchor” where they form.

  2. You know, there’s not a day that goes by that I don’t worry about the “spatial heterogeneity in Atlantic hurricane activity”, so thank you for this article.

    • Yes, such horrible writing is endemic in science today. And don’t use the words “could have persisted” when referring to earlier centuries. State the facts of your analysis. A poor summary is worse than done. We know your data is limited, but put forward what you have with solid statements of fact. Not awkward and mealy-mouthed summaries. “Heterogeneity” is a red flag that your thinking is muddled.

  3. Somewhat related, I am just watching “Unknown Identity” in German.

    Harrison Ford meets with a former Gestapo from the DDR in Berlin.
    The DDR man says: “We Germans are experts in forgetting. First we forget we were Nazis, the 30 years later we forget about communists.”
    And, a few years after, Harrison Ford is eating hamburgers at the adjacent Hamburger stand to the UN propaganda party, where it was claimed cows caused bad weather. I still like Harrison Ford though, great actor

    The average Joe, as mentioned earlier here on WUWT, has difficulties understanding what I call proportions. Personally I may be slightly better at it than the average Joe, because it is an essential quality when you design electric circuits.
    But the failure is on the side of us, who might be better than the average to read graphs, understand practical math and understand deeply what we read or are told. We fail because we need to explain our findings and our conclusions in layman’s terms. To the average Joe I often had to explain the working of a transistor in terms of water, pipes and valves, something many people can touch, feel and better understand.

    Let the alarmists persuade with slogans, and let us persuade with humanized scientific evidence.

    • Electricity is exactly analogous to water in that voyage is pressure, current is flow, impedance in a pipe is the same as resistance in a conductor.

      You increase the pressure in a pipe to increase flow same as increasing voltage increases amps with a constant resistance, at least until it melts.

      Definitely helps the non sparkies understand

      • What is your water analogy for induction and reactance?

        Simple analogies break down quite quickly. Better to encourage more education to remove simplistic explanations

        • Inductance would be the momentum of the water and reactance would be the ability of pipes and such to expand.

  4. The world is a very dangerous place. It has become part of human instinct to find ways and means to try to predict the future, bad or good, to minimize the risk if it is bad and maximize the benefits if it is good. So people finds it highly profitable financially and/or advancement in social standing and power to claim to be able to predict the future. It could be star grazing, crystal balls, internal organs of sacrificial animals, bones, sticks, name it. As man starts to understand nature, science has a evolved to try to explain events that to the primitive man was simple magic. Science even tries to add perception of accuracy by using math. While computers have expanded greatly the speed of calculations, it has also replaced the oracles standard device. So the oracles does not invoke heaven and the spirits but he now invoke ‘SCIENCE’ and his prediction now always starts and ends with ‘SCIENCE BASED”. Richter the famous seismologist has this to say of the various “SCIENCE BASED ” predictions and predictors ” What ails them is exaggerated ego plus imperfect and ineffective education, so that they have not absorbed one of the fundamental rules of science— self criticism. Their wish for attention distorts their perception of facts, and sometimes leads them on into actual lying”

    • It’s not so much that they are unaware of hurricane history, it’s more that they couldn’t care less.

  5. Don’t hurricanes need cold air to maintain their energy levels? Where does all that cold air come from?

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