Climate Apocalypse Claim: “We’re talking about the collapse of civilization, and I think it’s really important for people to hear that.”

Hylidae: Agalychnis callidryas
Hylidae: Agalychnis callidryas. Geoff Gallice from Gainesville, FL, USA / CC BY

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Breitbart; According to Well + Good, an additional half a degree warming is already “baked in”, and is leading to disease, floods, storms, parabolic frogs, and anything else bad you can think of.

The Apocalypse Is Now: We Need Immediate Action Against Climate Change To Survive 

Erin Bunch・September 23, 2020

“Oof, 2020 is the worst.” You’ve heard the refrain; you’ve seen the memes. There’s a good chance that you, yourself, have uttered something along the lines of “I can’t wait for this garbage fire of a year to end” under your breath while scrolling through apocalyptic headlines of rampant disease, wildfires, hazardous air quality, hurricane damage… shall I go on?

But the truth is, this unprecedented-in-our-lifetime global state of emergency is not an aberration, and it won’t end as the sun sets on 2020. This, too, shall not pass. Because the common denominator for so much of this death and destruction is climate change, and at this point, there is no avoiding the catastrophic effects caused by the warming of our planet—we are already experiencing them. As Anthony Leiserowitz, PhD, Director of the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication, puts it, for those born in 2020, this is, in some ways, the best of what’s to come.

Right now, the majority of people around the globe are like the parabolic frogs sitting in a pot of boiling water. Things are heating up, but, heedless of the gradually worsening conditions around them, the frogs stay put. By the time full-blown disaster is upon them, it’s too late to hop out.

In America, we have yet to significantly feel the effects of the type of climate-related food supply disruption that experts warn looms globally (as in, our populations aren’t starving for this particular reason, even if they are for others), but they are coming. And in the future, Dr. Klein Salamon says “resource wars” will inevitably result from weather-damaged crops. Research has already, in fact, connected climate-change-related drought in Syria to that country’s civil war this past decade, which displaced millions and led to a refugee crisis.

Both Dr. Leiserowitz and Dr. Klein Salamon would like to have better news for us. “I wish I could tell you that the air quality is bad this year, but it’ll be better next year. But the truth is that this is accelerating,” Dr. Klein Salamon says. “We’re talking about the collapse of civilization, and I think it’s really important for people to hear that. I truly believe this is the apocalypse.”

Read more: https://www.wellandgood.com/action-against-climate-change/

The experts interviewed are Anthony Leiserowitz, PhD, Director of the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication and Margaret Klein Salamon, PhD, Climate psychologist

I’m really worried. I mean, I normally set my home thermostat to 23C (73F). Maybe I should superglue the control button, because if I accidentally adjust the temperature up half a degree, I might experience the end of civilisation.

I only have one question. What is a parabolic frog?

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lb
September 24, 2020 10:21 am

What the heck is a “Climate psychologist”?

Joel Snider
Reply to  lb
September 24, 2020 10:35 am

An exploitive fraud.

Peter Watson
Reply to  Joel Snider
September 24, 2020 11:15 am

An exploding Frog?!??

Charles Higley
Reply to  Peter Watson
September 24, 2020 5:09 pm

It’s a parable about a frog in a pot and the author used the adjective, which is indeed a real adjective for parable.

Clarky of Oz
Reply to  Charles Higley
September 24, 2020 7:21 pm

Thank you, I have never heard the word used in that context before. Learn something new every day.

mike macray
Reply to  Charles Higley
September 25, 2020 2:10 am

Thank you Charles!
I thought perhaps the frog had developed a new ballistic trajectory…
epicycloidal or something?!
Cheers
Mike

mke macray
Reply to  Charles Higley
September 25, 2020 2:14 am

thank you Charles!
I thought the frog had developed an alternative ballistic trajectory… epicycloidal or something!
Cheers
Mike

DGP
Reply to  Joel Snider
September 24, 2020 11:38 am

A parabolic fraud.

Greg
Reply to  Joel Snider
September 24, 2020 12:27 pm

Utter bollox !

Civilisation as we know it coming to an end much faster than climate can change it.

Just look at the unthinkable changes to society we’ve seen this year and the mayhem which is likely to ensue following the election on Nov 3rd.

These pseudo-intellectual goofs still imaging anyone gives a damn about their spurious, fake claims and cries of “wolf”?

We have plenty of REAL problems to worry about now and it’s barely started.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Greg
September 24, 2020 12:38 pm

Quite deliberately so.

Greg
Reply to  Joel Snider
September 24, 2020 12:32 pm

Dr. Klein Salamon says. “We’re talking about the collapse of civilization, and I think it’s really important for people to hear that. I truly believe this is the apocalypse.”

Thank you doctor, cancel my appointment for next and seek help. It sounds like you need to consult a climate psychologist.

Geez, if this wingnut is in a position where she is councelling people who have climate anxiety, God help them. They will come out far worse than when they went in !

Reply to  lb
September 24, 2020 10:36 am

What is a “parabolic frog” ?

PaulH
Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 24, 2020 11:24 am

Parabolic fraud? 🙂

Juan Slayton
Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 24, 2020 11:59 am

hyperbolic?

As in “hyperbole”?

Hot under the collar
Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 24, 2020 12:08 pm

If you kiss a parabolic frog, you get a hockey stick.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Hot under the collar
September 24, 2020 12:46 pm

I dunno about that, but you might wind up with worts. Which is good, because then you can make beer.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Hot under the collar
September 24, 2020 1:15 pm

No. If you kiss a frog, you get a prince. If you kiss a parabolic frog you get less by a factor of e, you get a pric.

Aaron Edwards
Reply to  Hot under the collar
September 24, 2020 1:49 pm

Just don’t kiss him on the asymptote.

Latitude
Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 24, 2020 1:02 pm
Roy Martin
Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 24, 2020 1:18 pm

“Parabolic frog” is a way of referring to “The Parable of the Boiling Frog”. This usage, though I wouldn’t have thought so, is correct.

But it definitely causes confusion (and laughter!) when describing a frog.

Confusion occurs because there are two definitions of the word, and both are derived from the Greek for “comparison”:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/parabolic
Definition of parabolic
1: expressed by or being a parable : ALLEGORICAL
2: of, having the form of, or relating to a parabola
motion in a parabolic curve
Did You Know?
The two distinct meanings of “parabolic” trace back to the development of Late Latin and New Latin. Late Latin is the Latin language used by writers in the third to sixth centuries. In that language, the word for “parable” was “parabola” – hence, the “parable” sense of “parabolic.” New Latin refers to the Latin used since the end of the medieval period, especially in regard to scientific description and classification. In New Latin, “parabola” names the same geometrical curve as it does in English. Both meanings of “parabola” were drawn from the Greek word for “comparison”: “parabolē.”

HD Hoese
Reply to  Roy Martin
September 24, 2020 2:45 pm

That’s close, but I have two courses in herpetology which doesn’t help a marine biologist much, as frogs also don’t last very well in sea water. My instructors in said courses were excellent, however so I looked it up. Parabolic– 1. Expressed by or being a parable. Parable– example– a short, fictitious story that illustrates a moral attitude or a religious principle. HMMM!! Worshiping frogs perhaps?

R Taylor
Reply to  Roy Martin
September 24, 2020 2:46 pm

Can’t argue with Webster, but in that sense I would have expected parabolical.

John Endicott
Reply to  Roy Martin
September 25, 2020 6:50 am

Interestingly (or not), doing a search on the definition of Parabolic, returned the following results:

parabolical.
[parabolical]
DEFINITION
adjective form of parabolic

parabolic.
[ˌperəˈbälik]
ADJECTIVE
1.of or like a parabola or part of one.
“a parabolic mirror behind a spotlight projects a parallel beam”
synonyms:
legendary · mythical · mythic · mythological · fabulous · folkloric · fairy-tale ·
[more]
2.of or expressed in parables.
“parabolic teaching

so parabolical is adjective form of the adjective parabolic!

Paul Johnson
Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 24, 2020 1:18 pm

A frog referenced in a parable. Poor choice of words; “iconic” would be better.

R Taylor
Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 24, 2020 1:29 pm

My guess is that Erin Brunch doesn’t know what parabolic means, but it was the closest thing to “proverbial” she could think of in the heat of the moment.

Ron Long
Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 24, 2020 2:11 pm

Horny Toad.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 25, 2020 7:58 am

It’s two bolic frogs.

oeman50
Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 25, 2020 9:18 am

All of these responses crack me up.

Gregory Woods
Reply to  lb
September 24, 2020 10:37 am

mis-spelling: Climate Psycho…

Sam Capricci
Reply to  lb
September 24, 2020 10:43 am

What the heck is a “Climate psychologist”?

Someone fixated on the climate and needs to see a psychologist, though I’d recommend a psychiatrist since they likely also need meds.

lb
Reply to  Sam Capricci
September 24, 2020 12:21 pm

Yeah, either that or one of the climate ‘models’ has gained a personality and feels unhappy. 😉

Vuk
Reply to  lb
September 24, 2020 10:57 am

… a bandwagon stowaway.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  lb
September 24, 2020 10:59 am

A new, useless, social science.

He’s at Yale- which has 2 online enviro web sites: the first that I like sometimes is the Yale Enviro 360 site at https://e360.yale.edu/. Though I dislike many of the articles, at least I can post comments there. Yale’s other site is Yale Climate Connections at https://yaleclimateconnections.org/ which is very much- all the time- a climate alarmist site- and, as you might guess, it does not allow comments. I emailed them about this twice- got no reply- of course.

Curious George
Reply to  lb
September 24, 2020 11:57 am

A Climate Psychologist is a person intimately familiar with the faintest internal thoughts of Climate. Climate psychologists sense the Climate’s fear of carbon dioxide, and attempt to sooth that delicate soul by making the mankind fear the carbon dioxide as well. Soon you will be able to study Climate Psychology at Harvard, the home of Professor Naomi Oreskes.

Hot under the collar
Reply to  lb
September 24, 2020 11:59 am

What the heck is a “climate change communicator”?

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Hot under the collar
September 24, 2020 1:17 pm

It is a person who talks all the time about the climate. If it changes, they don’t.

philincalifornia
Reply to  Hot under the collar
September 24, 2020 5:22 pm

Griff, Loydo ??

They’re on here:

https://ibb.co/kKtgk1L

Andy Espersen
Reply to  lb
September 24, 2020 4:18 pm

This is as difficult to fathom as what I heard the other day : an academic working in the field of “cultural mathematics”.

nottoobrite
Reply to  lb
September 25, 2020 2:57 am

Ask any , English “,child” about “Frogs”

Poems of Our Climate
Reply to  lb
September 25, 2020 8:20 am

What the heck is “climate change communication”?

Lee Scott
September 24, 2020 10:23 am

I really wish these people would get a grip – on reality. There is no looming climate apocalypse. Man-made CO2 is responsible for a tiny portion of the warming we have experienced. The rest has all been natural. Take a deep breath and relax. It’s all going to be OK.
https://www.academia.edu/31305328/Radiation_Transfer_Calculations_and_Assessment_of_Global_Warming_by_CO_2

mkelly
Reply to  Lee Scott
September 24, 2020 1:52 pm

Lee please explain precisely how CO2 causes this warming.

I don’t think it does what you say.

Lee Scott
Reply to  mkelly
September 24, 2020 2:31 pm

Well, you’ll have to read the study. I’m not the one making the claim. But since you asked, here’s my take on it: CO2 in the troposphere does nothing, as it is overwhelmed by H2O. Once you get above the troposphere where there is almost no water vapor, CO2 begins to have an effect on radiative flux. And also at the poles, where there is also little water vapor in the air.

However, the poles are dark 6 months out of the year, and we don’t live in the stratosphere where CO2 does its thing, so my personal opinion is it does very little that actually affects the climate we live in.

The study I linked to is the first one I’ve ever ready that attempts to identify and quantify all the elements that affect the heat balance of the earth. It covers a lot of issues that the IPCC simply ignores or assumes are static. So, overall, I think it does a good job of tamping down the hype that comes from the alarmist side, and it also uses the same formulas and many of the same premises they start with to get there.

Earthling2
September 24, 2020 10:28 am

The last 100-150 years of climate has been remarkably stable and benign. Including the last ~12,000 years of the Holocene. But even having said that, the LIA which lasted 400-500 years had much more destructive climate that what we have now, we would be in very bad shape presently if the climate conditions of the peak of the LIA returned. Can you imagine a year without a summer, (temporary volcanic forcing) and there is a big reduction in agriculture crops with 7.7 billion people to feed. Anytime the wind blows hard now where there is civilization, there is significant damage because we have so much exposed infrastructure.

If we look at just the last ~100,000 years of the last glacial advances, that climate would be catastrophic to our civilization. Expecting that natural variation in climate to be stable and benign is not the default position for how climate works. We advanced this last 150 years because of very benign climate (and abundant fossil fuels) and if natural variation changes for any reason, then our troubles are here to stay no matter what the CO2 level is. Thinking that reducing CO2 levels will somehow guarantee natural variation stays stable is a fools errand. The climate is always in transition from one state to another over short seasonal time scales to very long time scales, and the proper answer should be how do we adapt to whatever Mother Nature throws our way. If we continue to believe that we can now tame the weather and control the climate long term, then we are delusional. We are going along for the ride. The alarmist position is no different than priests of old sacrificing virgins to the climate gods hoping it makes some difference.

Reply to  Earthling2
September 24, 2020 10:46 am

Earthling
Your calm science based comment makes too much sense. You are hereby banned from the internet. Internet Rule 1a requires commenters to know little or nothing about the subject commented on, and to argue enlessly with everyone who disagrees. The “debate” can continue until Hit-ler or Naz-is are mentioned, then the Moderator, who is usually in his “office” (a bar stool in a seedy bar) must end the “debate” (Internet Rule 1b).

George Daddis
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
September 24, 2020 2:01 pm

In what universe is the Democrat House going to pass this reasonable legislation?

Joel Snider
September 24, 2020 10:34 am

Erin Bunch = Twit.

Gordon A. Dressler
September 24, 2020 10:40 am

From the above article:
“The experts interviewed are Anthony Leiserowitz, PhD, Director of the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication and Margaret Klein Salamon, PhD, Climate psychologist.”

The hell you say!

September 24, 2020 10:45 am

“We’re talking about the collapse of civilization,
If there is any collapse, the reasons are others, f.e. the many ways to react to an imaginated human driven climate change.

fretslider
September 24, 2020 10:46 am

They should lay off the acid…

Follow her down to a bridge by a fountain
Where rocking horse people eat marshmallow pies
Everyone smiles as you drift past the flowers
That grow so incredibly high

Newspaper taxis appear on the shore
Waiting to take you away
Climb in the back with parabolic frogs
And you’re gone

Sobering to think Lennon would 80 now

September 24, 2020 10:46 am

Margaret is the brains begin the Climate Mobilisation Project.. she worked with XR. And their strategy is hers..

Greta “there is a fire in.your house, is just Margaret from 2016

JoHo
September 24, 2020 10:48 am

The experts interviewed are Anthony Leiserowitz, PhD, Director of the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication and Margaret Klein Salamon, PhD, 𝐂𝐥𝐢𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐩𝐬𝐲𝐜𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐨𝐠𝐢𝐬𝐭. (my highlighting)

What is a ‘Climate’ psychologist? Salamon qualified as a ‘Clinical’ psychologist. Is this a deliberate typo??

Reply to  JoHo
September 24, 2020 2:27 pm

A “climate psychologist” helps people like Greta Thunberg who claim to see carbon dioxide in the air. Or maybe they help others see it too?

Observer
September 24, 2020 10:49 am

As for “parabolic frog”, perhaps the word “parabolic” refers to the airborne trajectory of the frog after it realizes the water is too hot and jumps out. (As I understand it, you cannot really boil a frog that way…it will eventually jump out of the hot water.)

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Observer
September 24, 2020 5:58 pm

Correct to my understanding.

It is not the delta that causes the frog to react, it is the fact the frog now finds the water uncomfortable and wants to leave.

The other consideration that people seem to ignore in these sorts of studies is exactly how long does a frog like being fully in water anyway. Open question.

Also, if I remember my base physics correctly, a true parabolic curve would not occur due to loss of velocity in the frog due to air resistance.

So maybe a Parabolic Frog is one that only exists in the mind and cannot be replicated in reality – bit like Global Warming(tm) 😀

Mark Lee
September 24, 2020 10:50 am

If sacrificing virgins comes back in vogue, the romantic success rate will go up for a lot of us as our potential success removes prospective virgin sacrifices from the nomination list. Remember, never let a crisis go to waste!

icisil
September 24, 2020 10:51 am

Climate solutions = the collapse of civilization

John Bell
September 24, 2020 10:53 am

It is now very fashionable for leftists to write such articles, facts be damned.

Ed Zuiderwijk
September 24, 2020 10:56 am

A parabolic frog is a toad used as hyperbole.

Joseph Zorzin
September 24, 2020 11:01 am

Off subject, sorry- but:

“Democrats want to hand climate science over to the mob ”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-want-to-hand-climate-science-over-to-the-mob/ar-BB19o58m?ocid=Peregrine

“The House of Representatives had an opportunity this week to take meaningful steps toward combating climate change. But instead of proposing bipartisan reforms that would enable new clean energy technologies to flourish, Democrats opted to politicize science and add costly new regulatory hurdles that would do nothing to reduce global emissions.”

Great, we should cheer them on!

Matthew Sykes
September 24, 2020 11:05 am

What a load of cr@p. “this unprecedented-in-our-lifetime global state of emergency is not an aberration, and it won’t end as the sun sets on 2020”

DO they actually believe the rubbish they spew, or do they think we are all idiots?

MarkW
Reply to  Matthew Sykes
September 24, 2020 12:31 pm

They are right about one thing. It’s not an aberration. It’s just normal weather. Everything that has happened this year has happened before, many times, in the last 100 to 1000 years.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Matthew Sykes
September 24, 2020 1:22 pm

Both of the above.

September 24, 2020 11:11 am

Last paragraph in the Introduction of Bjorn Lomborg’s new book “False Alarm – How Climate Change Panic Costs Us Trillions, Hurts the Poor, and Fails to Fix the Planet” is entirely appropriate: “We have it within our power to make a better world. But first we need to calm down.”

Randle Dewees
September 24, 2020 11:13 am

Well, I would think that a parabolic frog is an amphibian creature that has some part of itself here, and a corresponding part of itself at infinity. Now a frog “going parabolic” I get, anytime it hops it goes parabolic.

Peter Watson
September 24, 2020 11:14 am

Is Well + Good Double Plus Good’s inbred Cousin?

Pflashgordon
September 24, 2020 11:15 am

The good news is that practically no one reads or listens to Yale’s climate bleating. They probably reach a larger audience by being featured on WUWT than by their own channels. Climate psychologists??? Climate change communicators??? Every able adult should have a job and a life’s calling, but why waste money supporting these clueless, unproductive lunatic fringe propagandists (liars)?

Peter W
September 24, 2020 11:17 am

When your arguments don’t seem to be working – just make them more extreme.

Malcolm Chapman
September 24, 2020 11:19 am

They are perhaps trying to find an adjective derived from ‘parable’, as it might be from ‘the parable of the boiling frog’ (only in the true version, which only I have access to, because I am a climate parabolic, it is a lobster, not a frog). Which does not say much for their control of the language, which goes with the more general stupidity. If they had known how bad it was going to get, they could have got out earlier, and studied something that might make them an honest living – grammar, or spelling, or taxonomy, or chidren’s encyclopaedias. We must find a way to give these people hope.

John Endicott
Reply to  Malcolm Chapman
September 25, 2020 6:44 am

They are perhaps trying to find an adjective derived from ‘parable’, as it might be from ‘the parable of the boiling frog’

In that case, they actually succeeded (one of the only times they can claim to have succeeded at anything):

parabolic.
[ˌperəˈbälik]
ADJECTIVE

2.of or expressed in parables.
“parabolic teaching”

Andy Pattullo
September 24, 2020 11:42 am

Damn it! Armageddon only comes around once in a lifetime. Why do all the sober, objective and reasonable people have to spoil it with facts.
End of Times is the best of times for unproductive, magical thinking, trough munchers who don’t want the responsibility of looking after themselves let alone anyone else. These are the generations raised in ease and a with total lack of consequences. They talk about the collapse of civilization with barely disguised glee. They probably see themselves in a few years as fashionably ragged heroes in the Australian outback driving (electric) war machines across the sand and dancing rumba with Mel Gibson and Tina Turner. Their enthusiasm for disaster will last just about as long as the last charge on their iPhone.

Phillip Bratby
September 24, 2020 11:46 am

It’s much more than half a degree increase that we need right now in the UK. Climate change seems to have brought an early winter. I could easily survive tomorrow being ten degrees warmer.

DrTorch
September 24, 2020 11:51 am

Considering that Antifa, BLM, China etc explicitly want and actively work to bring down (Western) Civilization, these do-gooders would be far better off opposing these groups, instead of fretting about the Sun.

Crannog
Reply to  DrTorch
September 24, 2020 1:04 pm

What? These ‘do-gooders’ are Antifa, BLM and China.

Marv
September 24, 2020 11:57 am

Get ready for The Great Reset …

Now is the time for a ‘great reset’ of capitalism | World Economic Forum
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/now-is-the-time-for-a-great-reset/

(snip)

“To achieve a better outcome, the world must act jointly and swiftly to revamp all aspects of our societies and economies, from education to social contracts and working conditions. Every country, from the United States to China, must participate, and every industry, from oil and gas to tech, must be transformed. In short, we need a ‘Great Reset’ of capitalism.”

Scissor
Reply to  Marv
September 24, 2020 12:21 pm

I’m OK with a reset, so long as it means that everyone in the world is guaranteed the equivalent of our first and second amendment rights.

MarkW
Reply to  Marv
September 24, 2020 12:29 pm

Every “reform” of capitalism manages to turn it into some form of socialism.
To bad they haven’t managed to find a form of socialism that works for anyone besides those who run it.

Joel O'Bryan
September 24, 2020 12:07 pm

The “experts” here in this piece are simply climate fraudsters. They are riding the climate change grant gravy train in today’s university academia. It’s a place where no one really works that hard for a nice paycheck and lots of free-time.
All they gotta do it write up some junk, pseudosciency sounding stuff every so often and get it published somewhere. The peer-review crisis has exposed the many no-threshold journals and outlets these climate fraudsters, and others like the gender study fraudsters, use to get their junk write-ups published.

ResourceGuy
September 24, 2020 12:08 pm

Well someone has to start laying the foundation for Dems losing all that they gain in the House, Senate, and WH? The bigger they are the harder they fall.

Tim Gorman
September 24, 2020 12:13 pm

“hings are heating up, but, heedless of the gradually worsening conditions around them, the frogs stay put.”

How do they know things are heating up?

The “global average temperature” can’t tell you whether maximums are going up or if minimums are going up!

Does *NO ONE* pushing the climate change meme know basic math?

n.n
Reply to  Tim Gorman
September 24, 2020 1:20 pm

That’s another inconvenient truth. There is only one overwhelming driver… forcing, that sets the global mood. Their global average statistic is not a useful measure to assess environmental or human risk.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  n.n
September 24, 2020 6:02 pm

n.n.

Absolutely. Averages are not useful for much when it comes to temperature. Climate is based on the entire temperature profile, from min to max, integrated over an entire year.

Kemaris
September 24, 2020 12:33 pm

I find they are absolutely correct. Efforts to combat the fraudulent “climate change” conjecture, particularly implementation of the Green New Deal, will lead to the collapse of civilization. Tens of millions of Americans would die, perhaps hundreds of millions, while the rest spread out to scratch out a subsistence existence in the shadows of the windmills and solar panels. A tiny handful of our “betters” may continue on in remains of the cities for a short while.

What do you mean that’s not the collapse of civilization they’re talking about?

Gary Pearse
September 24, 2020 12:47 pm

So you have a climate communicator PhD – sort of a climate social worker. And what do you do? Well, you aren’t expected to know the least about the science but your salary is for agonizing over and trumpeting climate disaster hype.

If you put a climate communicator in a pot with a climate psychologist and gradually cool it, it reaches a point where he may want to jump out but the cli-psyche talks him into staying until they freeze to death.

jdgalt
September 24, 2020 1:07 pm

The only thing threatening civilization right now is the riots. I’d love to hear someone explain how climate change caused those.

n.n
September 24, 2020 1:11 pm

They must mean: protests (i.e. warlock judgments), violence (i.e. witch trials), and Dodo Dynasties.

Laws of Nature
September 24, 2020 1:22 pm

>> What is a parabolic frog?
I have honestly no clue.. maybe a horribly misspelled boiling frog?
And you can always learn something.. if it were, according to Wiki “boiling frog” that is another wrong myth!

So we have a climta alarmist borrowing from a false myth.. hmm

Cheers,
LLoN

John F Hultquist
September 24, 2020 1:23 pm

There is an echo bouncing off all the CO2 in the atmosphere.

Harold Camping

“Camping is notorious for issuing a succession of failed predictions ”
For example: “Rapture would occur on October 21, 2011, …”

Now, instead of a date we get a ∆T.

September 24, 2020 1:31 pm

The only greenhouse gas that has an effect on climate is water vapor. Global WV trend has been increasing 1.5% per decade which is faster than possible from temperature increase (feedback). https://tinyurl.com/yxehr2pj is a comparison of measured WV and what it would be if only from temperature increase.

The WV increase is nearly all (about 96%) from increasing irrigation. https://watervaporandwarming.blogspot.com WV increase accounts for all of the temperature increase attributable to humanity. Carbon dioxide, in spite of being a ghg, has no net effect on climate.

n.n
Reply to  Dan Pangburn
September 24, 2020 1:37 pm

The only greenhouse gas that has an effect on climate is water vapor.

The atmospheric ocean. Water moderates heat at low and high altitudes.

Reply to  n.n
September 25, 2020 9:15 am

True, but water is a liquid, not a greenhouse gas.

Bruce Cobb
September 24, 2020 1:40 pm

Somewhere, there must be a climate cookbook. See, you’ve got all these climate ingredients – floods, droughts, fires, super duper storms, etc., and you mix them together, then you pre-bake in a half degree to get that extra climate goodness. There’s an art to climate cookery.

Rick C PE
September 24, 2020 1:44 pm

Maybe some brilliant science geek computer modeler could create a simulation of what would happen if the world stopped all use of fossil fuels for say 1 month, 3 months, 1 year, 5 years, etc. I suspect civilization collapse would be a wholly inadequate description. There would, of course, be no further production or installation of “carbon free” energy production products or ability to maintain what has already been built. I’d bet on societal decent into tribalism within months.

Stevek
September 24, 2020 1:47 pm

Civilization is going to collapse and we all gonna die. Now give me boatloads of money to fix it before its too late.

Mickey Reno
September 24, 2020 1:53 pm

No taxpayer dollar should ever again go to fund scientific research at Yale. That place is a pigsty of leftist hysteria and cowardly political correctness. And I think I might be insulting the poor, innocent pigs. There are lots of other institutions that should likewise be forever banned from receiving taxpayer dollars, also, though too numerous to mention here.

Rud Istvan
September 24, 2020 1:58 pm

I thought this post was a parody, like from the Onion or the Babylon Bee. Then I went and checked.
Lunatics really are running the Yale asylum.

Nicholas J Harding
September 24, 2020 2:02 pm

Remember when the Westside Highway was 6 feet under water in 2018?

Remember when that was widely predicted?

Who continues to believe that the Emperor has clothes? Far, far too many.

Rod Evans
September 24, 2020 2:13 pm

A fine example or why no one should ever bother talking to a Climate psychologist, Does any one even know what such an individual is employed to do, apart from projecting complete nonsense?

Patrick Watkins
Reply to  Rod Evans
September 24, 2020 4:42 pm

He’s got tenure. You’re not *allowed* to criticize him.

stinkerp
September 24, 2020 2:17 pm

There could be something to this. One cold morning I turned the heat up in my house 2 degrees (C) and noticed fire and brimstone coming down from the sky, rivers and seas boiling, forty years of darkness, earthquakes, volcanoes, the dead rising from the grave, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria.

Al Miller
September 24, 2020 2:27 pm

If good people don’t step up and end this nonsense (Marxist propaganda from politicians on the left and complicit media) we’re going to see the end of civilization as we know it and the end of any individual freedoms.
“Climate Change” remains their old faithful lie, but they are clearly expanding to any and all sources of potential politics of division they can to try sow dissent.

September 24, 2020 3:29 pm

A parabolic frog is a frog on a parabolic zero gravity flight in an aircraft. The frog is feeling queasy, disorientated and confused, just as we are after reading all that crap in the article by Erin Brunch.

Chris
September 24, 2020 3:33 pm

Taking away cheap energy from a civilization built on cheap energy will guarantee a collapse. Except for the Lord of Chaos, nobody gets what they want in the aftermath.

fred250
September 24, 2020 4:30 pm

“We’re talking about the collapse of civilization, and I think it’s really important for people to hear that.””

Not only are they talking about, they are ACTIVELY trying to bring it about..

I think it’s really important for people to realise that

Craig from Oz
Reply to  fred250
September 24, 2020 7:58 pm

Hang on. She clearly said “Collapse of Civilization”, NOT “mass extinction event”.

We are missing a significant admission here – the world and the human race are not going to end, just ‘civilization’.

Basically a ‘leading Climate Psychologist’ has declined to support the narrative that Climate Change(tm) will destroy the earth.

That is amusing.

Doug Huffman
September 24, 2020 5:12 pm

Of or pertaining to a PARABLE

John Sandhofner
September 24, 2020 8:35 pm

“We’re talking about the collapse of civilization, ” We are talking about the complete phoniness of the science assoicated with your claim. Computer models are not science. They are just that: computer models. More and more there is evidence that your ideas about radical climate change are not true. Any change in climate is natural part of earthly cycles. Besides any modeling that does not include variations in sunspot cycles is overlooking the most impactful piece of the climate picture. In the big picture of things, the sun is everything when it comes to the climate.

Clarky of Oz
September 24, 2020 8:59 pm

Now I think I understand exactly what a “hyperbolic frog” is. it is, I believe, a fictional frog, about which someone has woven a tale promoting certain moral values. Something like a fairy story. I have had this parable or myth presented to me at several change management training sessions over the years. My question is has any person anywhere actually performed this experiment? Is it even possible to perform this experiment. Obviously one can not use the same frog in both phases of the experiment. Do all frogs react the same? Can we see the data please?

Hivemind
September 25, 2020 12:20 am

“What is a parabolic frog”

I don’t know either, but apparently they’re delicious if you slow boil them.

crannog
Reply to  Hivemind
September 25, 2020 12:34 am

Yes, but deep-fat fried with a beer bottle up their back side is better!

Alice Thermopolis
September 25, 2020 1:11 am

Boiling frog, n., 1. An anecdote describing a frog slowly being boiled alive. 2. Premise: if a frog is placed in boiling water, it will jump out; but if it is placed in cold water that is slowly heated, it will not see the danger and will be cooked to death. 3. A metaphor for an inability or reluctance to react to alarmist prophecy; often used to support a slippery slope argument, with the frog replaced by a climate denier. Syn., boiling frog syndrome.

A frog that has had its brain removed will remain in slowly heated water, but an intact frog will attempt to escape when the temperature reaches 25C. (F Goltz, physiologist, Beitrage zur Lehre von den Functionen der Nervencentren des Frosches, 1869)

“If you put a frog in boiling water, it won’t jump out. It will die. If you put it in cold water, it will jump before it gets hot. They don’t sit still for you.” (Professor D Melton, Harvard University Biology, 1995)

Reference: Devil’s Dictionary of Climate Change (2018, Athena Books/Amazon, George Lexicon)

Zane
September 25, 2020 5:29 am

Western civilisation is pretty close to collapsing right now from the Covid nonsense, and the coming green mandates will finish it off. TKO. Shame, because it didn’t have to be this way.

Just Jenn
September 25, 2020 5:34 am

Talk about a word salad of an article. Once again, doom and gloom and no relief, solution, or plan presented to mitigate all that doom and gloom.

Parabolic Frog indeed, along with Climate Psychologist–um….I can’t even touch that one, it’s just too ridiculous for words.

I’m going to equate articles like this are the TikTok of the mediocre academic in the university world. No substance to them, no articulation, just a 5 minute blurb to garner views and followers.

Sara
September 25, 2020 11:27 am

I think I found a useful way of describing a climate psychologist: someone who deals with control freaks, those who believe there is a real thermostat that controls the “temperature” (ambient or otherwise) on the planet and are in a tizzy over not being able to find it. They live in towers made of concrete/cement/whatever (may be shoeboxes, for all I know) and venture out only when they are wearing masks.

The climate psychologist is someone who is like them and understands their desperate need for control of everything, including which way the wind blows and what the outside temperature is for the day. There is no medication yet available for the climate control freaks, but the climate psychologist frequently recommends music therapy that includes such songs as “Hotel California” (you can get in, but you can’t get out) and “Lucy In the Sky With Diamonds”.

Steve Z
September 25, 2020 1:08 pm

A parabolic frog believes that the sea level rise follows a parabola, which leads him to predict that sea levels will rise by over 1 meter by the year 2100. Never mind that the data fit better to a straight line, which would result in about a 20 cm rise.

But climate alarmist groups are full of parabolic frogs, which are not quite as extreme as exponential frogs.

Mike Dubrasich
September 25, 2020 4:04 pm

People. Listen up. “We’re talking about the collapse of civilization, and I think it’s really important for people to hear that. I truly believe this is the apocalypse.”

You need to hear it. The Hotpocalypse is coming. Thermageddon. We’re way past the tipping point. It’s all over, Baby Blue. These are scienterrificals saying this. From Yale! That’s Ivy League.You just must trust the Science, people.

Fortunately, there are a few positive, proactive steps you can take to prepare for The End:

man the lifeboats
batten down the hatches
walk the plank
get a rope
pass the ammunition
double down
go for broke
go bananas
read ’em and weep
set your hair on fire
take a powder
fly the coop
run like heck
man the barricades
abandon hope
shoot the moon
duck and cover
drop the bomb
pray for rain
lose your marbles
flip your wig
call 911
burn the witches
eat more fruit
go on strike
quit the party
join the movement
hold your breath
wait for it
put your head between your legs
kiss your ass goodbye

Sara
Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
September 25, 2020 4:39 pm

Or you could, instead, do the following:

Make a list of good friends
Learn how to cook over an open fire
Learn how to cook on a wood-fired stove
Cook from scratch and get rid of the microwave
Stock your pantry shelves with raw materials for cooking
Learn how to make your own clothes, if you don’t already know
Learn to hunt in all seasons, and preserve the meat correctly
Find a really, really good fishing hole
Collect those old-fashioned kids’ games
Keep print books on the shelves, including cookbooks
Collect all those old-fashioned cookbooks, going back to the 1600

Stop whining and move ahead.

Mike Dubrasich
September 25, 2020 10:23 pm

My Dear Sara,

I don’t think you fully grasp the concept of The End of Civilization via Thermageddon. There will be no fish, no game, no crops, no food, no trees, no firewood. They will all burn up in the sweltering mega heat. Instead, there will be roving bands of starving cannibals. The ammo will be used up the first week. After that it will be hand to hand to mouth. Think hellish dystopia, not bucolic pastoralism.

At least, that’s what the Scientists at Yale think. They aren’t mincing around about it. It’s Doomsday for Life As We Know It. Unless, of course, they are bat sh1t crazy loons with terminal paranoia, or just plain idiots, or paid terrorist swine. I vote for No. 3, but the other two are distinct possibilities.

Just Jenn
Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
September 26, 2020 6:32 am

“At least, that’s what the Scientists at Yale think”

they need to put down the book, “The Road” and start looking outside.

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