People send me stuff. I got Facebook messages this past weekend inviting me to “like” both Donald Trump’s and Joe Biden’s pages. What I found most interesting was the HUGE disparity in likes and followers, and I thought it worth noting here.
See the highlights in the screencaps below:
Trump has 28,449,428 likes, with 30,249,329 followers, while Biden has 2,182,873 likes and 2,383,321 followers.
That’s greater than a 10 to 1 ratio in likes and followers between the two candidates. While there’s certainly nothing scientific about Facebook, the numbers themselves fly in the face of all these recent news polls that show Biden leading by widened margins in key states.
I think it’s more likely that conservatives simply don’t engage in polls, resulting in left-skew, just like in 2016.
Hopefully, Mr. Trump will win, and keep us out the madness that is (was) the Paris Climate Accord as he did not long after taking office.
And, thanks Mr. President, for reading WUWT:
Agree with you, Anthony, all the way.
After 4 years of attacks on Trump by the media, many not even true, I’m surprised anyone would admit to a stranger that they planned to vote for Trump.
So Biden ahead by 5 points in polls
means nothing.
Our goobermint claims 11 percent unemployment and then reports that 32 million Americans are collecting unemployment compensation, out of a 160 million work force, which is a 20 percent unemployment rate.
How do you get reelected with a real 20 percent unemployment rate?
Biden needs a reason to not debate.
Governors need a reason to forbid Trump rallies.
The reason would be COVID-19.
The winner will be the man who generates the most enthusiasm before the election.
Trump needs big rallies for that.
In 2016 Trump ran on a lot of promises and no track record.
In 2020 Trump has a track record and Biden can make empty promises now.
I predict just before the election Democrats will accuse Trump of creating Covid-19, colluding with Russians, to make China look bad, or something like that.
That will be a NY Times cover story.
I saw that this is what a cornered rat looks like… replace rat with the LEFT cabal including MSM, the entirety of the Dem Party, embedded factions in government. America is watching. I am on FB as one of the Un-silent majority. I meet a lot of people who share my beliefs. I even, just yesterday, was told by a far Left liberal friend that she cannot vote for Joe Biden. Then she said, she’d vote for Kanye West before voting for Biden and finally, after I summarized briefly what’s going on, she said, she was going to have to vote for Trump. This was a big deal. Things are soooo bad with the implosion of the Left, and the cancer plus chemo they are foisting on the US, that people who hate Trump will vote for him.
Mario
David: (sarc/) Looking at those numbers, are you concerned that this is another Russian disinformation campaign? We know they are trying to interfere in our election, right? Using social media and all that? Better get the FBI on that (I’m kidding, but would not be surprised to learn Peter Strzok left a secret team in place). Sarc/ off- The numbers are consistent with observation, and I’m getting good laughs from reports on “polls” showing Biden ha ha ahead by ha 15 points hahahahaha!!!
As Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit fame would say, “don’t get cocky.” Remember Dewey vs Truman in 1948 when the pollsters based their disastrous prediction on telephone interviews when only the relatively prosperous had ‘phones. In this case it’s my understanding from my under 25 grandkids that no-one their age uses Facebook.
And few people under 25 bother to vote. Thank God and your grandkids for that.
There was never a Russian influence in the last election. The Steele dossier was made up from information given by an man in The United States and paid for by Hilliery.
To David and Anthony, I love WUWT, and especially DM’s contributions. It is great to know the USA President follows WUWT.
BUT, please can you keep away from political opinions. We get so much of it from other places. I like to pass on some WUWT things to other people, and its better that WUWT is known as a scientific/analytical blog rather than yet another partisan political blog.
It’s easy to avoid those articles on subjects that you don’t like. Just read the title.
Why is it that so many concern trolls actually go through the effort of reading an article that they know they won’t like, in order to complain about too many articles that they don’t like.
Regardless, Climate Alarmism has been about the politics, not the science, since day one.
If we don’t play ball in the same court, we are doomed to failure.
Mark… I agree! My response was very similar. Unreal how other people tell WUWT how to run their business! There is a reason WUWT is number 1…
Well, so you should be active and NOT hold back your opinion in any other article and just ignore one (very important) topic, because you have a different opinion..
I struggle to understand why either party would pick such a candidate, Biden was never strong (not on climate or anything), Trump, well in my opinion, he lies too much, whores around and does not represent anything I value!
The fact that he said a few three word sentences about climate, does not make him knowledgeable, about this topic or anything.
I do believe, that he does not care about climate, race or religion. He does not understand these topics very well as he is a narcissist and diagnosed sociopath.
Both seem to have a form of dementia and are just too old to hold any strenuous job and should not have control over the nuclear arsenal!
I cannot understand by which criteria either of them would be the lesser evil as neither of them was or ever will be a good (Vice) president!
Hey, Laws of Nature, exactly WHO diagnosed Trump as a sociopath? What shrink(s) have actually examined him?So far as I am aware the claims of his mental state/diagnoses have all been based on news clips. Not exactly what I would call scientific.
Where did I even imply that someone should only comment if they agree with an article.
The original commenter was whining that an article such as this should not exist on this site.
It’s a discussion about a scientific or not, poll that will determine the future of energy and climate policy. I think it’s on topic. It’s no more political than the Summary for Policy Makers.
As well, the subject matter is perfectly clear enough for you to not click to participate, me thinks.
Well said, Richard
This David Middleton isn’t me.
Considering how wrapped up in politics the issues written and discussed here are, I find it hard to understand how anyone can assert that people here should not discuss the political situation in this country and in the rest of the world.
CAGW is more than anything else a political issue.
It sure aint about science.
If it was about science, the main issue discussed here would not exist.
Yeah. I’m with Richard.
Just because we all share some opinions on climate with Trump, that does not make the rest of his persona or his actions any more palatable to me.
Policy trumps personality. Trump will be history in five years no matter what, but those are years we desperately need to hold the Marxist climate charlatans at bay long enough for a critical mass to wake up to the AGW scam.
5 years won’t be enough to even slow down the CAGW train. 4 more years of Trump will just make them more and more hyperbolic, and every stiff wind will be evidence of human-caused extreme weather.
True, Jeff.
I’ve recently realized that even 30 or so years of no increases or event of constant gradual cooling would not derail convictions amongst those who are already convinced. They’d have a good twenty years explaining it was all natural variation (an argument they claim is off limits to us) and then they’d bluff it out for another 10 or so.
After about 50 years of gradual temperature decline they might concede, but I’m not going to be around to hear it.
A precipitous drop would be more convincing, but that seems an unlikely event.
On the other side of the argument, I need more than the intricately constructed satellite data and the heavily homogenized surface temperature data, and the repeated pronouncements that every extreme (and highly variable) weather event was ‘proof’ to be convinced there is a problem.
Excuse me for asking but what is unpalatable about Trump?
He was a birther? Current issues surely are more important than that?
What else has he done wrong by you?
Just curious and yeah, I know I am not a citizen of the USA.
There are many things not to like about Trump personality wise. But we don’t (or shouldn’t) elect presidents based on their personality. Jimmy Carter was, by all accounts, very nice personality wise, but his time in office was a disaster because he simply wasn’t a good president.
Trump is the Broken Clock President – purely accident, he happens to hold a single view you agree with. He has not arrived at that opinion through knowledge, expertise, diligent research, advice from experts, but because some of his Good Old Boys aren’t making enough money the way things are, and will make less money if they change. They’re making their money from the likes of us, mind you.
And what is unpalatable about One-Term-Trump? Imagine this: You have an attractive 16 year-old daughter. Somehow, she’s become stuck in a room, with no means of escape or communication with the outside world, and in there with her, is Donald Q Trump. What is your comfort level with this situation after 10 minutes? 1/2 hour? One hour? Two hours? At what point do you become concerned? Which part of her anatomy are you happy for him to grab her by? Happy with the Gag Order that she’s signed? The money she’s received? Be honest – how comfortable would you be? The man who would date his own daughter?
Yes, he’s unpalatable, for many, many reasons.
Trump is a New Yorker, through and through. I a lot of them that I have known are like that.
Brash, in your face, never back down.
“…what is unpalatable about Trump…”
Well, I also happen to like his hardline approach to China trade. I think he opened everyone’s eyes to the fact that China also needs the rest of the world and will deal accordingly.
But, to answer:
He is a relentless liar, a blusterer, a bully, and also a terrible hypocrite regarding religion.
He doesn’t read, has little practical knowledge of anything, and he runs on gut instinct, having no moral compunction to reward honesty and know-how, he only rewards loyalty. He thrives in a position of power because his first instinct is to move against critics and to reward supporters. He came into office with a list of every Republican Member of Congress who had ever spoken against him, and he immediately called them out on it. They either resigned or gave him their full support.
The blind American ‘fear of communism’ carries over to quash all and any useful social programs which work in all other nations and aid the relentless growth of giant multinationals. And Trump buys their ruthless self serving support with tax breaks and special deals.
His divisive brand of politics will tear the USA apart.
Other than that, he is alright.
John “But we don’t (or shouldn’t) elect presidents based on their personality.”
Well, this country leads very personality based campaigns!
If you are the right bully, you can put someone´s campaign out of business by saying “she looks ugly!” no matter, what that candidate actually as to say!
(I know of no other country tolerating such or similar behavior and believe the party being silent about it repeatedly for years now, even quenching a justified senate investigation, gets rightfully drowned in the next election on all levels, there seems no other way for them to learn not to do this! Stand up for what is right or go down with the idiot bully)
Krudd “what is unpalatable about Trump?”
Well, the whole way he does politics like a bad used car sellesman (a trait he shares with Biden in my opinion!), Did he really say “Call you later!” in an official correspondence to a foreign president about a war crisis? (Yes, re-read his letter to the Turkish president, it would be funny if it wasn´t so sad, try comparing this document to the language used by any other president, I genuinely believe Trump is almost illiterate, parroting opinions he saw on TV or blogs and the only thing allowing him to be so confident is being too dumb to see how dumb he is.. that is why I am so horrified seeing him gloried here.. it is not difficult or hidden how bad Trump is!)
The ways he treats the press (which sometimes have legitimate questions, does he really think he is above answering them), the other gender (dating his daughter and grab them by the pussy are only two of many examples!), minorities (they are all loosers, they dont even play golf!)
Krupp “He was a birther?” I don´t think he cares about religion at all, there is no indication for that. He tries to catch votes, fate or money (I believe on this topic he switch his opinion a couple of times)
The same for basically any other topic, climate or a wall to Mexico (he knows like anybody else, that most illegals just overstay their visa after they flew in making the wall a big money dump)
Personally I find it most unpalatable, that he lies and lies and lies..
Even about the smallest things, like the weather (did it rain or where will a Huricane travel) and basically any time he says “I didnt say this!” beside a solid record.
LoN
Climate change IS political opinion. We talk what the science says, but nobody listen. CC is just a tool to redgreen Marxists to change _political climate_ and that has nothing to do with averaged weather. And it has been that, from the beginning of this farce.
It´s a gift to this world to have WUWT and real scientists, to push the truth to brainwashed masses. Of course they don´t read this, but we do, and we are shouting this message, loud and clear. I can talk only about this little part of this planet, but I can tell that scepticism is growing here. There´s no more “denial” talk. And there´s no more idiotic answers from alarmists. It works, but it has been very slow process. And in that process WUWT, and real scientists here, has been one very important key.
If this site would have been only to scientists, who share opinions about science, it would have been too complex to understand to a layman, like me. I know a lot about IT, but only something about climate science, and this site (with others) has been a treasure chest to increase my knowledge about climate science. And it has been a great help to try to open ignorant groups eyes. And it works.
When UN brings the message, you know it´s pure politics. It doesn´t matter what our political opinion is, but when we fight against Marxist tyranny, it´s important to have WUWT as it is. Please keep up the good work to help our fight, because this is common concern to us all.
My opinion about US President is that he is the only leader in this world who have brains.
Global Warming is nothing but political.
In America.
but nobody much thinks that outside your doomed empire…
So doomed that everyone wants to come here.
Oh no they don’t all want to go there! Where did you get that idea from? Hahahaha!
I see that griff is still defining what people think based on what government run newspapers are printing.
It’s political everywhere Griff. But you knew that, didn’t you?
And no, I’m not from the US.
While I know I’m not the only David Middleton in the world, I am the David Middleton, the geologist who writes for WUWT. The first comment to this post is not from me. I don’t disagree with it, but just wanted to make it clear that it wasn’t me.
That said, I don’t think Facebook/Twitter stats are particularly relevant in this Election. Joe Biteme probably doesn’t even know he has a Facebook and/or Twitter account and he is less involved with his own campaign than Robert Mueller was involved in his own witch hunt. Joe Biteme is nothing but a sock puppet of the radical Marxist left.
You mean Joe 30330
Or Joe Max Headroom…
https://twitter.com/fightdenial/status/1258531855923474432?s=19
HAHAHAHAHA… and although it’s funny, and shows how poorly his staff understands quality of message, it’s par for the course for 30330Joe!
Will the real David Middleton please stand up.
You need like the Blue Check ✔️ thingy now here at WUWT.
Do not even have to watch the video…just look at the screen caption still shot.
It tells the whole story.
That still shot isn’t even in the video. False advertising.
What is false about it?
tO: Jeff Alberts July 28, 2020 at 7:51 am
Well, it’s a cover page, from it’s a liberal rag… But in its defense, prescient levity was the purpose. It’s Joe, and a cut from the same debate. Be happy 🙂
I am not the Michael S. Kelly who occasionally comments on WUWT posts. I am the Michael S. Kelly who occasionally comments on WUWT posts.
I have no comment on this post.
I hope that clarifies things.
Wait, which Michael S. Kelly are you again?
He’s the Michael S. Kelly that has never visited the WUWT site.
He is the Michael S. Kelly that is not Dave Middleton.
Haha, and I do not do Facebook and would have LIKED Trump. Lots more of us out there.
Same here. I have a NarcissistBook account, but haven’t been on in years.
Unfortunately many people will vote AGAINST Trump rather than FOR Biden.
Run, Kanye, run!
Yes, and most demo☭rats really don’t know who is on the Marxist ticket yet.
Rather the opposite: Against Biden and his Greenie New Deal, rather than for The Donald
Against higher taxes.
Against riots.
Against open borders.
Against Defund The Police.
Against insane hateful lying crooks running the country…
in other words basically against everything the current Democrat party stands for.
I’m feeling optimistic to see that the President of the United States quotes and presumably follows WUWT. The message is meeting the right ears.
Regarding the election: the Far Left Party has nothing to lose if they pull out all the stops and try massive voter fraud to win. They’ve already backed vote-by-mail, the surest way for them to steal the election. Dead people voted in 2016 and 2018, and poll boxes disappeared. Take nothing for granted.
What I find interesting, the zombies are already voting in places that are leftist strongholds. The ballot boxes go missing in places that are already leftist strongholds. Ballot box stuffing takes place in leftist strongholds.
Don’t forget the dead cat who got a voter’s registration card. https://nypost.com/2020/07/10/voter-registration-form-mailed-to-familys-long-dead-cat/
You say they are already voting in some places?
I read an article today that said 3,200 absentee ballots were rejected for a recent local election we had here. The election board said the biggest reason for rejecting absentee ballots was because they arrived after the deadline date.
These absentee ballots happened to be requested by the voters, and the voters had to get their mail-in ballot officially certified and labeled before it can be considered a valid vote.
What the Democrats are proposing with mail-in ballots is completely different from the system I just described. Instead, the Democrats don’t want to wait for voters to requrest absentee ballots, they want to just mail blank ballots out to every person on the voter list, with no certification required that the voter actually cast that particular absentee ballot, or even received it in the mail.
Sending mail-in ballots out to the public wholesale, is just opening the door to election corruption.
You can bet the Democrats will try every trick in the book to steal this election. After all, they were willing to subvert the U.S. Constitution in their previous effort to steal the 2016 election, so nothing is beneath them if they think it will get them political power.
Arizona has early mail-in ballots. I use it. I am not worried one bit about my ballot being counted. It will be because I have to mail it early enough to arrive at the recorders office by election day. The post-marked day doesn’t matter.
But Arizona has strict rules on vote by mail implementation. Rules that prevent a California-style ballot-harvesting schemes. But Dems want to pass a national law in Congress forcing the States to adopt California-style rules for mail-in ballots to enable “ballot harvesting.”
Where the voter fraud can happen by mail-in ballots is if the state doesn’t have strong controls on who can “assist” a voter in mailing in there ballot. Arizona has strict rules and laws and makes it a felony for an “assistant” to mail-in someone else’s ballot without proper ID. In Cal, those rules don’t exist so that’s Democrat’s SOP to stealing elections by harvesting ballots using excess printed ballots going door to door to find people who say they haven’t voted.
They have finally found a way to get around the voter ID laws.
IMO, mail in and early voting has opened up our elections to the possibility of never being honest again.
With very few exceptions, everyone should have to be at a polling place on election day.
Just like for over 200 years here, and just like almost everywhere in the world.
There should be no absentee ballots except for people who have to, by no choice of their own, be away from where they live on that day.
The consent decree preventing the GOP from having poll watchers expired this year. Here’s hoping the GOP can have enough poll watchers to prevent at least a little vote fraud.
A lot of people are scared to express their opinion today. If you hate 99.9% of Trump’s policies but like one little, insignificant policy. There are people who will hate you, try to destroy your life and do physical harm to you if they can. All over one minor thing.
Sound familiar? Only the shirts are a different colour.
Remember the Italian Fascist (before it was a bad word by connotation… and association with Mussolini’s party) party had their enforcers and Musollini himself wear black uniforms… it is either ironic and coincidental or planned that the VERY fascist so-called ANTIFA group is modeled exactly on the Italian fascists and the German National socialist Brown shirts…
What, you don’t believe in irony and coincidence?
What is so unusual? We had the American Protective League back during Wilson’s administration. With full backing of the Attorney General they recruited a quarter million toughs to “physically persuade” Americans who disagreed with the Democrat policies.
Mussolini became disenfranchised with his Italian socialists – because they were too moderate…
??????
Anti-fascists wear black shirts.
Fascists wear black shirts.
Brown shirts
Contemporary “Anti-fascists” wear black shirts, and are Fascists.
Mid 20th century Fascists wore brown shirts and were Fascists.
Isn’t Black the new Brown?
As Jo Nova put it in 2019: Bullying works in public, but people vote alone.
https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/05/21/jo-nova-it-was-a-climate-election-and-the-sceptics-won/
That is why here in canada there is a concerted push to eliminate the secret ballot for union accreditation votes, a direct attack on the foundation of democracy.
The Lieberals did this federally while the ndp did so here in ALberta but it was reversed by the new conservative Govt.
JoNova is right, the only possible reason for getting rid of the secret ballot is to allow goons to intimidate.
“but people vote alone”
I remember Hillary complaining at one time in 2016, that Republican men were forcing their wives to vote for Trump.
No, Hillary, the wives are not accompanied into the voting booth by their husbands. They vote alone. And noone knows how they voted, including their husband. Your “fear” is a paraniod delusion.
There’s an old saying, that is still true.
If you want to know what a liberal is doing, just look at what they are accusing others of doing.
Projection on steroids, I’d say. Well stated!
There are quite a few reports out there claiming the polls are deliberately skewed to favor Joe Biden. But, I would trust follower numbers from Facebook unless I had some reasonable way to weed out the leftist trolls.
Meant to say…‘wouldn’t trust…’
A lot of Deadheads are lining up for Trump these days, unafraid to post their support on Mickey Harts fB posts. Who would have thought. What a long strange trip THATS been.
We’ve grown up.
“But, I would[n’t] trust follower numbers from Facebook unless I had some reasonable way to weed out the leftist trolls.”
Or the bot army.
Scientific or not, that’s a whopping difference.
I wonder if Twitter has a similar result. I can’t tell because I’m banned and have moved to Parler.
Trump has 84.2 million followers on Twitter. Biden has 7.3 million. Take it for what it’s worth (which could be a lot)
A horse of a different Parler?
As long as it’s not a horse of palor, then it would be a racist horse.
A horse of palor? A white horse? DEATH’s horse? Binky?
Are you on Twitter?
Remember the first thing when you create an account? The interface suggests you people or news accounts to follow, and @realDonaldTrump is suggested (was the few times I tried registering, before I was blocked for whatever). So many account will be subscribed to @realDonaldTrump. It does not mean much.
Also, bots can subscribe to popular accounts, because these are common things to do (not to boost those accounts). At least that’s my understanding – I am NOT a social bot expert.
So it is either bots, or because he is President of the United States, and was already one of the most famous people in the world before he ever ran.
Hmmm…
AI in linguistic is a scam. (So the claim you can automatically scan archives and ID “hate speech” – whatever it is – or extremism is a hoax.)
If there are textual interactions that make sense (in context), it is NOT a bot.
Counter-example: There is a French activist (so called “feminist”) who gets thousands of likes but ALL textual interactions under her tweets are negative, so I call BS.
Example: Both Trump and Jr. have lots of real interactions that are not robotic.
But the 4 top replies under @realDonaldTrump are always the same 4 critics. Not possible without some spamming, boosting, or interference from the social network itself.
Are you on Twitter?
Nope, and never will be. Same for Facebook and all the other (anti) social media sites.
Biden’s campaign staff has 7.3 million followers. FIFY
I’d wager that a good portion of Trump’s Twit followers are those who want to ridicule him for everything.
As my distrust of state media grows,I have come to suspect that the Polling Agencies play a role in the propaganda.
The only purpose of these “Polls” seems to be ,to lay the groundwork for massive voting fraud.
The actions of the Pollsters suggests they do not care if their results are hopelessly wrong,as 2016 demonstrated.
For the biases that led them astray are repeated.
Working people have no time for their goofy questions and most just hang up.
Landlines are dying off,yet dominate in polls.
And finally far too many Polling Agencies are blatantly political,being funded ,staffed and marketed by failed politicians and their former minions.
However if you were party to a planned attempt to steal an election by fraud,polls insisting your candidate of choice is at least competitive are essential.
For a combination of dubious voting practises and a history of lagging way behind your competition is a real hard sell.
John, I think the bias in the polls has to do with fund raising.
The vast majority of the fund raising is from large organizations that want to buy access in the next administration. It has nothing to do with political belief or ideology. Just to make sure they have access to the next administration many of these organizations hedge their bets by donating to both political candidates. But like any investor they will bet most heavily on the candidate that they think has the best chance of winning. Money given to the losing candidates is just dead money.
So each candidates tries to give the impression that they are ahead in the polls and they have the best chance of winning. That’s so they get more of the fund raising money from these large influence buying organizations. So they rig the polls.
The Democrats have an advantage in rigging the polls. (1) The Democrats are inherently more corrupt than the Republicans. They have more experience at being corrupt and at bribery. As a Chicagoan all my life I’ve seen the Democratic political machine in Chicago and in Illinois bribe and cheat. Don’t forget that Obama was part of that corrupt political machine all his political life. The same corruption goes on other big cities where the Democrats are in charge. (2) The biggest customers of the polls ( the large polls that are made public) are news media companies, like NBC, the New York Times, etc. You know the story with them. (3) Some of the polling companies are affiliated with universities. Need I say more about the integrity of universities? (4) We live in a corrupt age. If you have to you bribe the project manager in charge of the poll. The project manager rigs the poll and his unemployed son who just graduated with a BA in ethnic studies gets a cushy job in the zoning department.
There are private honest polls designed to learn the reality of what is going on. They are privately financed. Knowing the truth gives you an advantage in business and in investing. But the results generally are kept private.
I think polling destroys the democratic process
Parties do micro polling and target policies to extremely small slices of the population to grab just enough support in individual risings to turn the tide.
And so no one runs on policy formed by a rational belief structure that they then have to defend during a campaign.
I’d rather eliminate all polling, make it illegal in the year before election date, force parties and cantidates to come up with a platform based on their beliefs and then campaign on it with no idea how it reasonates except the actual election
Impossible, yes.
But if enough people simply refuse to answer polls eventually they become completely useless, and they die.
“I have a dream”.
When I get asked/polled I happily answer all the questions but when it comes to “likely to vote for” I say that is a secret not to be shared.
The polster doesn’t like that because they are often testing the water on hot button issues, not really running a poll in the regular sense. It is really exposing the baselessness of the politicians and their agenda. They are not “standing for something” they are pretending to be everything to everyone.
Normally members of a political party will vote for a hat on a broomstick if it is a party member so it is interesting to hear that some Broomstick Democrats are willing to support Trump over Biden.
The origin of the “broomstick” name is from a South African woman who said in 1981 she was “a Broomstick Nat,” meaning, she explained, she would vote for a hat on a broomstick if that is what the National Party nominated in her riding. (The NP created, expanded and eventually ended apartheid.) Their die-hard supporters were not easily lured elsewhere save in the most grave circumstances.
“I think it’s more likely that conservatives simply don’t engage in polls, resulting in left-skew, just like in 2016.”
plus the polling firms are under polling republicans on almost every poll. is it purposeful, i believe so but who could prove it?
Lately letting others know you are Trump supporter can end your career.
Or even your life:
https://www.bet.com/news/national/2020/07/25/black-trump-supporter-killed.html
“plus the polling firms are under polling republicans on almost every poll. is it purposeful, i believe so but who could prove it?”
Yes, the various polls are undersampling Republicans in their polls anywhere from seven to 12 points, depending on the poll.
Can it be proved? I think so. The way to prove they are undersampling Republicans is to look at the percentages of voters in the last two national elections, 2016 and 2018. Republicans represented 33 percent of the vote in both elections. Yet the polling companies only sample anywhere from 20 percent to 27 percent Republicans in their polls. If they sampled 33 percent of Republicans, Trump would be leading in every one of their polls.
The way to prove it is to look at the poll particulars. They tell you how many Republicans they sample. They just don’t tell you the percentage they sample is not representative of all potentila Republican voters, based on the last two elections.
The entire Leftwing is engaged in trying to rig this coming election against Trump. The Leftwing may not count all 33 percent of Republicans in their polls, but they can’t keep all 33 percent of Republicans from going to vote, which is the *real* poll.
They also do not correctly balance unaffiliated voters who identify as conservative, or mostly conservative, or the ones who vote Democrat, or mostly vote Democrat.
These demographics are known, and must be controlled for as well.
An interesting result happens when they also ask people who they think will win.
The results are different than when they ask who are they voting for.
More people say they think Trump will win.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_brian_joondeph/presidential_polls_are_deja_vu_all_over_again
FWIW At my house, we don’t even answer the phone to pollsters. (Or anyone else we can’t identify, for that matter). Almost everyone I know does the same.
Number unrecognised? No answer!
No message left? No ring back!
Same same.
“Number unrecognised? No answer!”
That’s what I do.
When my stolen car was recovered the local police department informed me via a call with a blocked #, and left no message. I only learned via a post card that arrived nearly 2 weeks later that my car was piling up impoundment fees.
SR
Facebook is global and Trump’s international presence results in a lot more international fans and this could skew the results. Few people in other countries give a crap about what Biden says and probably don’t even know who he is which is fitting because even Biden doesn’t know who he is anymore.
It doesn’t sound like he knows what he’s saying any more either. The other day he gave a shout out to the great city of Arizona.
“Making sense of Joe Biden”
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2020/07/making-sense-of-joe-biden.html
https://twitter.com/davereaboi/status/1287848559317057537
I just hear him read ‘crimate clisis’ of his teleprompter. Well, he has the crime part right.
Biden was talking about “Covid-9” and 120 “million” dead, the other day.
Biden gave a news conference yesterday and even took a few soft-ball questions, and he did manage to put more than two sentences together at a time, but he still wasn’t making much sense. I got the same feeling listening to him that I get when I listen to AOC. Neither one of them make any sense, or have anything substantive to say.
Biden can use the excuse of Bradyphrenia. AOC can only blame her ‘education’ …
I do not volunteer any information regarding polls. On the occasion that I get a call my first response is “Who is behind this poll?” Next I begin to question the poller on every question asked and only give questions as answers and go into a dialog why it may be an unfair and ‘leading’ question and then say skip that question and go to the next one. Same tactic again and again until they hang up on me but I waste as much of their time as they do mine when I have time to spare.
Works well on telemarketers to try to keep them on the phone as long as possible and ask lots of dumb and off topic questions to pull them off their script. If I have time and they hang up I’ll call back!
It’s hard to tell if the Democratic Platform of:
Will be successful or not.
+ 1
Charles,
I’m not sure if you have written a coded message or just in a foreign language. I tried to verbally speak it in English but I seem to be confused!
Sheesh! Where is Monckton when I need him?
Got to love google translate… Not.
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Pure poetry….
Poetry?….nah….Latin is a dead language
G’Day SMC,
that’s about as far as I got trying to figure out what this gobbledeegook paragraph actually tries to say with help from Goggle Transmutate. It doesn’t help that the limit of my familiarity with Pope-speak is ‘Noli Carborundum Bastardo’ (and I’m quite sure that’s not ‘correct’ Latin but I’d be lying if I pretended to care).
Must be a translation from the original cuneiform….
Google translate: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed tempor and vitality, so that the labor and sorrow, some important things to do eiusmod. It is not easy vegetarian or ecological element is present. Dui blandit massa that is not even now. Pull undergraduate at in the region. Aliquet nec ullamcorper sit amet. Planning of football photography as long as the trigger. Who can pull nibh a pillow. Massa developers running worth it. Him with the jaws of life aliquet nec ullamcorper sit. Accumsan sit amet nulla facilisis. Nisl ultrices of life, except the chocolate chips. Chili element is not present for the lion or antioxidants. Rhoncus mattis rhoncus urna neque viverra justo nec. Vel hepimiz soccer for now. Mattis targeted at the television. Lorem ipsum put carrots undergraduate tomato soup. Pulls Rays Super Bowl mountains.
Looks like a great program, to me. I especially like the exception for chocolate chips and the absence of chili elements for lions or antioxidants. 🙂
I’m Joe Bamaobiden & I approve of this message.
Being not familiar with this, I searched up the first 6 words.
Now I know I could have used just the first two.
The piece has its own wiki page.
Well done, Charles.
lol nice
https://giphy.com/gifs/moodman-YRuFixSNWFVcXaxpmX
It’s all Russian votes …
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(for Bind’em, err Biden)
I’m watching this from north of the boarder, so, I have no dog in the fight. At this point in time, I believe Trump will win because the Democrats picked the wrong candidate.
They had no other.
They had plenty of candidates to choose from. The problem was, they were all sure-fire losers. Biden was the least-worst of a bad bunch.
He didn’t even want to run until the swamp basically forced him knowing that the Democrats had a slate of unelectables. Perhaps his reticence was because he was aware of his own mental deterioration, in which case, he probably also knows that he’s just a place holder for the Socialist/Marxist he picks for VP. The ultimate bait and switch.
“I’m watching this from north of the boarder”
You have boarders? Repel them!!
Congratulations, Anthony, on the high caliber of the readership here. I have always thought so, and have respected and valued (most of) the contributors and commenters. President Trump has surpassed my expectations — that he is a WUWT aficionado is yet another feather in his cap.
dunno….Trump is on facebook and twit all the time….I don’t think Biden gets internet in his basement
Biden thinks that kids today listen to record players. Maybe some vinyl-collecting ’50s retro kids in Japan, but that’s about it.
Biden forgets his password[s] most of the time …
123456 is so difficult. It used to be “password,” but that was even more difficult for him to remember.
He uses the password, “incorrect”, so that whenever he types in the wrong password, the software’s response is: “Your password is incorrect.”
👍
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6? That’s amazing! Joe’s got the same combination on his luggage! (with apologies to president Skroob)
Anthony ==> My wife and I raised our family in the very Democratic state of New York. The summer of 2016 we were considering buying a cottage somewhere rural Upstate (as they say) — so spent the summer driving the rural roads from just north of NY City up to Albany or so.
It was the season of “lawn signs” for candidates. After a few weeks, we began keep a rough count of Trump and Hillary signs.
Despite the main stream media pushing an 80% win for Hillary, our “lawn sign” survey came up with 8 signs for Trump for every 1 Hillary sign…..
Trump certainly didn’t win by that ratio — but it was definitely an indicator that the “Hillary Wins by a Landslide” meme was not gonna happen.
Observations beat models every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
Ogdensburg is rural upstate NY.
Having a lawn is now a sign of white entitlement.
Or something.
now that there is just plain lawnist
😀😀😀
Trump flags on boats is also worth noting.
I often watch the haulover boat videos
Many proud Americans with American flags
I also see several boats with trump flags.
I never see Biden flags.
Waza ==> We see a lot of Trump flags on pickups and Jeeps here as well paired with American Flags.
It is rumored that not one Democrat owns a bass boat.
Maybe I dreamed that.
No idea what the outcome will be, but a LOT of people (a majority) expressed that they were fearful to express their political perspective-and these weren’t the hard leftists.
I doubt the pills mean anything
Doesn’t matter- just keep taking them 🙂
But only the red ones
I’m one of those who don’t do polls. I also don’t do Facebook or Twitter.
I don’t put signs in my yard.
I do fly a “Betsy Ross Flag” on the 4th of July and Election Day.
(For those who don’t know, the “Betsy Ross Flag” is the one with 13 stars in a circle in the blue field.)
To me it represents the ideal, the goal of forming a Government whose purpose is to maintain and protect the Rights of the individual.
Protect from those outside and inside that are opposed to that ideal. (And to play referee in those gray areas where one individual’s rights conflict with another’s individual’s rights).
There’s really nothing right or left about that.
But, of course, there were and are flawed people involved with trying to achieve that ideal.
But there was never anything wrong with the ideal.
It’s a shame that flying that flag is now considered by some to be making a political statement.
No comment other than, ‘Dear Lord, I sure hope so.”
With the Cancel Culture running rampant, many people are afraid to let strangers know that they are conservative or support Trump.
Indeed. which is why, according to a new Cato Institute survey, 62% of Americans (77% of republicans and 59% of independents, 64% of moderates) said they have political views they’re afraid to share. The only group in the survey that feels they can express themselves without fear of repercussions was the “strong liberals” (ie the SJWs who drive cancel culture).
I think both FB and Twitter are fairly indicative of relative support, while the published suppression polls are not, same as in 2016 at this point.
And there are other several other confirming indicia. Spontaneous enthusiasm for President Trump, for example in ‘blue’ New Jersey yesterday when he stopped the Beast, got out, and threw MAGA hats to the crowd. The unfolding law and order disasters in blue cities like NYC, Chicago, Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland that Biden does not acknowledge and Nadler denies. Walkaway movement and the large number of African Americans in it. Ongoing evidence of Biden mental deterioration—Phoenix a state, polling place physicians, you know, that thing…now a refusal to do a softball interview with Chris Wallace. No good Biden choices for VP after he foolishly painted himself into the ‘black female’ corner; Susan Rice will likely be among the Durham indictments likely coming next month.
‘Susan Rice will likely be among the Durham indictments likely coming next month.’
Again – I sure hope so.
Did she make the cut to the top 4? If indicted, the perfect timing would be after being named as Biden’s running mate. Of those on his list, she would seem to be the most qualified as a tried and true Obama acolyte …
I hope Biden does pick Susan Rice for his vice president. She is the one with the most baggage and Republicans will be able to hammer her six ways from Sunday. Rice has been lobbying for the job pretty heavily lately. Rice has never held elective office.
The current rumor is he will pick Kamala Harris. Probably the best choice from a very weak field, but she has a lot of baggage herself, and I don’t think her personality is suited for the office. I think her attitude will alienate a lot of people. She will be capable of being extremely nasty to Trump, which is probably her biggest selling point among the Democrats.
Elizabeth Warren would be the best choice Biden could make but he promised to pick a “person of color”, so that leaves out Warren. She’s just your standard white woman with delusions of Cherokee heritage.
This bloke seems to do a pretty good job of reading the tea leaves
https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2020/07/24/trump-steps-in-to-restore-order/
Right you are Another Ian, I’ve followed ‘Pointy’ for years now (after he commented and linked to one of his posts here on WUWT) and it’s uncanny how often he calls it right, despite what ever opinion is popular in the fake news or the realm of loud-mouthed social media-ocre like Farcebook, Twit-duhh or Instaspam.
I reckon about the only time he missed an out-swinger was when the Dems managed to score the house majority in 2018 and he was quick about serving himself some humble pie on his blog after that one (how often do we see people paid to report news and opinion display even a trace of humility when they’ve called it wrong?).
Over 40 House Republican incumbents decided to retire in 2018, rather than run again. Had most of them run for one more term, there is a very good chance that the Republicans would control the House of Representatives right now.
I believe that many of these Republicans retired because they couldn’t stand the political heat that was being placed on them because of the impeachment of Donald Trump and everything that led up to it. So they bailed out.
As we all know now, there was no evidence of Russians colluding with Trump to rig the U.S. elections. It was all a setup by the Obama administration and the Democrats to undermine Trump and what this criminal action accomplished was to swing the House from Republican control to Democrat control which has resulted in paralyzing the Trump administration in many areas.
When Mueller took over the Special Councels prosecution of Trump, he knew within a matter of weeks that there was no case against Trump there, yet he continued the prosecution right through the 2018 election cycle without ever telling the American people that the prosecution was bogus.
So we can see that although the Obama administration’s attempted coup was not successful, it did have enormous political benefits to the Democrats. It allowed the Democrats to block Trump at almost every turn.
If Mueller is found to be mentally competent, then he should go to jail along with Comey and Brennan and Clapper and all the rest of them who carried out this freedom-stealing scam on the American people. Prosecuting someone when there is no initial crime, and it is known at the time, as Mueller did, deserves jail time.
Sundance is the guy who has this blog: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/
He is apparently very well connected and does the nitty gritty down in the trenches research and gives great detailed analysis on what is happening in DC. He has been on top of the attempted coup, the framing of General Flynn, and the ongoing investigations and so many other issues since they began. I have been reading and commenting at this blog for a few years now.
The detail and cross currents with so many players is tough to keep up with in the time I can commit to it. But what I know is that time and time again Sundance has been right about details months before they are exposed to the public in other media. I also know that Sundance has been very skeptical if not down right cynical of AG Bill Bar and what he will do with the information that he has been accumulating through the various investigations of the attempted coup and the players involved.
Sundance as of late has been in DC talking to who knows whom? But what is important is that he is not skeptical about the end game now as he most certainly was before. Read this optimistic message. I take heart in it because of the source and my knowledge of his past cynicism. I honestly believe there are great things coming. Things that will help set this Republic back on the right track. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/07/27/travel-day/
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I also have noticed that Sundance seems to have become more optimistic since he has been talking to people in DC. Hopefully that will end up being good news.
“I also know that Sundance has been very skeptical if not down right cynical of AG Bill Bar”
Attorney General Barr let it be known for the first time yesterday that there is currently an ongoing investigation focused on the Obama administration’s illegal unmasking of Trump officials.
I personally have great confidence in Bill Barr. I think he will do the right thing.
I don’t get the skepticism about AG Barr.
I liked him from the start when he walked into that committee room and told the Dims spying did occur.
I have never seen a guiltier group of people. They started stuttering and stammering and looking at each other like their dog just died.
That man is not going to let us down.
“Walkaway movement and the large number of African Americans in it.”
I have an old friend who about a week ago, out of the blue, announced that she had been a registered Democrat all her life but had just gone down and changed her registration to Republican and was going to vote for Trump. All this unsolicited. This is not a poltical woman and I had no idea if she was a Democrat or Republican, but she felt strongly enough obviously to announce herself publicly.
Ronna McDaniel, the Republican National Committee head said the other morning that she was seeing numerous voters in critical swing states changing their registration to Republican.
And you know all this insanity the Left is fomenting now, has to backfire on them with anyone who has a little bit of common sense. Nobody wants these Domestic terrorists in their neighborhood. People who don’t want Domestic terrorists in their neighborhood will vote for Trump.
November 3, can’t come fast enough. I want to see those lefties screaming at the sky in anguish over having lost to Trump again.
From up here in Canada…
Never been more worried about the outcome of an election in my life. The Dems win this one, taking over the White House and the Senate, America as we know it within the space of just four years will be pretty much done for.
And as goes America, so goes western civilization…particularly relevant to my country.
I watch (for as long as I can stand it) what’s going on in the streets of the USA, and for the life of me I can’t understand why anyone with at least three functioning brain cells would vote for anyone but Trump.
IMHO.
Agreed – this isn’t about right vs left – it’s host versus parasite, and the parasite is ready to kill the host.
Thanks to Trump, American Hegemony is already over. And a bloody good thing too. America DOES NOT equal civilisation.
Three functioning brain cells is actually all you need to vote for Trump. Any more, and you become one of them thar dangerous, book readin’, commie intellectuals.
The Dems win this and the rest of the world will breath a collective sigh of relief. And quite right too.
From the Washington Post (Commie Liberal Paper):
The same cannot be said for Trump, whose flailing reelection campaign has collided with a public health disaster. “People close to Trump, many speaking anonymously to share candid discussions and impressions, say the president’s inability to wholly address the crisis is due to his almost pathological unwillingness to admit error; a positive feedback loop of overly rosy assessments and data from advisers and Fox News; and a penchant for magical thinking that prevented him from fully engaging with the pandemic,” my colleagues Philip Rucker and Ashley Parker reported.
“The irony is that if he’d just performed with minimal competence and just mouthed words about national unity, he actually could be in a pretty strong position right now, where the economy is reopening, where jobs are coming back,” Ben Rhodes, a deputy national security adviser to Obama, told them. “And he just could not do it.”
Beyond the pandemic, though, experts see Trump as only the catalyst for a shifting global conversation about U.S. power in the world. “I think the U.S. is seen from my perspective as being involved in its own internal reckoning — like the rest of the world doesn’t really exist,” Robin Niblett, director and chief executive of Chatham House, a think tank in London, said to Balz. “It’s America trying to battle with historical and contemporary demons that as much as anything are a result of its own internal contradictions and tensions and strengths and weaknesses.” He added that Trump represented, simply, a rude awakening.
American Hegemony only existed in the minds of people who wanted their country to have hegemony.
““People close to Trump, many speaking anonymously to share candid discussions and impressions”
Or maybe the Washington Post reporters just made all this stuff about Trump up, and just pretend to have confidential sources.
White House Watch
Trump, Biden Near Even
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/white_house_watch_jul22
Sitting president is going to have lots of followers…even from people who dislike him and want to find something wrong with every single thing he says.
Nobody wants to see or hear anything from Biden, especially the people who plan to vote for him. Their guilty conscience might get to them if they did follow him.