It's official! Trump pulls out of The #ParisAgreement on Climate

President Trump just announced that the U.S. will “withdraw” out of the Paris Climate Accord. But “begin negotiations to re-enter”.

Trump said:

“We will cease honoring all non-binding agreements”, and “will stop contributing to the green climate fund”.

“I can not in good conscience support a deal that harms the United States”.

“The bottom line is that the Paris Accord is very unfair to the United States”.

“This agreement is less about climate and more about other countries getting a financial advantage over the United States”.

“The agreement is a massive redistribution of United States wealth to other countries.”

“Fourteen days of carbon emissions alone would totally wipe out the U.S. contribution to reduction by 2030”

“Compliance with the terms of the Paris accord… could cost America as much as 2.7 million lost jobs by 2025.”

“India makes its participation contingent on receiving billions and billions and billions of dollars in foreign aid.”

“We need all forms of available American energy or our country will be at grave risk of brown-outs and black-outs.”

“Withdrawing is in economic interest and won’t matter much to the climate.”

“We will be environmentally friendly, but we’re not going to put our businesses out of work… We’re going to grow rapidly.”

“No responsible leader can put the workers and the people of their country at this debilitating and tremendous disadvantage.”

“The same nations asking us to stay in the agreement are the countries that have collectively cost America trillions.”

“My job as President is to do everything within my power to give America a level playing field.”

“The same nations asking us to stay in the agreement are the countries that have collectively cost America trillions.”

“I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris.”

“Foreign leaders in Europe, Asia, & across the world should not have more to say w/ respect to the US economy than our own citizens.”

“Our withdrawal from the agreement represents a reassertion of America’s sovereignty.”

“It is time to exit the Paris Accord and time to pursue a new deal which protects the environment, our companies, our citizens.”

Scott Pruitt: “America finally has a leader who answers only to the people.” “This is an historic restoration of American economic independence.”

The Paris Accord is a BAD deal for Americans, and the President’s action today is keeping his campaign promise to put American workers first. The Accord was negotiated poorly by the Obama Administration and signed out of desperation. It frontloads costs on the American people to the detriment of our economy and job growth while extracting meaningless commitments from the world’s top global emitters, like China. The U.S. is already leading the world in energy production and doesn’t need a bad deal that will harm American workers.

 

UNDERMINES U.S. Competitiveness and Jobs

  • According to a study by NERA Consulting, meeting the Obama Administration’s requirements in the Paris Accord would cost the U.S. economy nearly $3 trillion over the next several
  • By 2040, our economy would lose 6.5 million industrial sector jobs – including 3.1 million manufacturing sector jobs
    • It would effectively decapitate our coal industry, which now supplies about one-third of our electric power

The deal was negotiated BADLY, and extracts meaningless commitments from the world’s top polluters

  • The Obama-negotiated Accord imposes unrealistic targets on the U.S. for reducing our carbon emissions, while giving countries like China a free pass for years to
    • Under the Accord, China will actually increase emissions until 2030

The U.S. is ALREADY a Clean Energy and Oil & Gas Energy Leader; we can reduce our emissions and continue to produce American energy without the Paris Accord

  • America has already reduced its carbon-dioxide emissions
    • Since 2006, CO2 emissions have declined by 12 percent, and are expected to continue to
    • According to the Energy Information Administration (EIA), the U.S. is the leader in oil & gas

The agreement funds a UN Climate Slush Fund underwritten by American taxpayers

  • President Obama committed $3 billion to the Green Climate Fund – which is about 30 percent of the initial funding – without authorization from Congress
  • With $20 trillion in debt, the U.S. taxpayers should not be paying to subsidize other countries’ energy

The deal also accomplishes LITTLE for the climate

  • According to researchers at MIT, if all member nations met their obligations, the impact on the climate would be The impacts have been estimated to be likely to reduce global temperature rise by less than .2 degrees Celsius in 2100.

 

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Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 12:38 pm

Hallelujah!

Ross King
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 12:40 pm

Hallelujah to the power ‘n’ !!!!
Let’s get back to sanity and providing the cheapest possible power to the greatest number of people SUBSIDY-FREE!

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Ross King
June 1, 2017 12:58 pm

The President is delivering a magnificent speech.

Chimp
Reply to  Ross King
June 1, 2017 1:07 pm

Ending wind and solar subsidies in Congress will be a tough sell.
But if Trump’s approval numbers turn up, he could bring heat to bear.
Here’s hoping.

Greg
Reply to  Ross King
June 2, 2017 4:25 am

A step in the right direction but not the right step. He should have given 12mo notice on UNFCCC, not a weak “withdrawl” statement. As I commented a few days ago his stance at G7 looked more like someone trying to renegotiate , not someone with the intention to pull out.
There is nothing to renegotiate since the fundamental basis of dangerous warming is only found in flawed models. CO2 is not “pollution”.
The great deal maker apparently thinks he can use this a bargaining chip against something else, which implies he will go along with it to some degree.
All the Hurahs here may be rather jumping the gun.

M E Emberson
Reply to  Greg
June 2, 2017 7:13 pm

Mr Trump seems to have decided that pulling out on economic concerns would be something not so easy to dispute. He left a door open for them to negotiate and it seems from reports that they slammed it shut.
This leaves the President able to say with outraged virtue that they broke it off. A skillful manoeuvre from a professional.

steve
Reply to  Ross King
June 2, 2017 4:10 pm

Trump believed the human body was like a battery, with a finite amount of energy, which exercise only depleted. Really????? Google the statement. These are ramblings of a bemused madman, and you guys think he’s a genius!!!!

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 1:12 pm

It’s time the UN and EU paid the piper for this climate scam.

PiperPaul
Reply to  Clive Hoskin
June 1, 2017 6:36 pm

I agree!

rw
Reply to  Clive Hoskin
June 2, 2017 1:29 pm

At some point that needs to happen. But more important is to leverage it; the opportunity is there.

Gil
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 1:53 pm

Amen! Amen!!

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 2:01 pm

Praise the Lord!

steve
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
June 2, 2017 4:13 pm

Wow!! You believe you have a made up friend in the sky but deny science. Good luck with that!!!

M E Emberson
Reply to  steve
June 2, 2017 8:00 pm

Jews and Christians say Hallelujah when things appear to be going right for once, I expect Moslems say something similar. It appears that you equate belief in God with inability to understand science, can you tell us why? Don’t give us the standard reasons advanced by Marx, He was rebelling against his strict Orthodox Jewish family and so was Trotsky. They didn’t study science either just German philosophy.

Carbon BIgfoot
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 2:05 pm

Congratulations Anthony and all the REAL SCIENTISTS who opine here that have made today’s announcement a success.

Philip
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 3:21 pm

Donald J. Trump has my VOTE in 2020 regardless what ever else happens.

Reply to  Philip
June 1, 2017 4:15 pm

I am with you!

Chris Riley
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 7:41 pm

Trump deserves credit for this. So does Anthony. Thousands of people got their first critical look at the AGW scam at this site.

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
Reply to  Chris Riley
June 1, 2017 10:44 pm

Like me.

Ian Magness
Reply to  Chris Riley
June 1, 2017 10:57 pm

I’ll second that comment Chris. I was a sceptic with a hunch before I started reading WUWT a few years back. The site has put real meat on the bones. Now I have no doubts whatsoever where the truth lies. A truly great achievement Anthony! I just wish we could find a way of raising the debate to government and media level in the UK where pure ignorance still reigns barely challenged.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 2, 2017 1:32 am

Reprise from April 2017:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/04/18/white-house-cancels-meeting-on-considering-paris-climate-accord-action/#comment-2479880
To Donald, Ivanka, Jared and Rex:
Donald was correct – time to dump the Paris Climate nonsense!
_________________
COLE’S NOTES FOR all the TRUMPs and Rex Tillerson – from 2015:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/06/13/presentation-of-evidence-suggesting-temperature-drives-atmospheric-co2-more-than-co2-drives-temperature/
Observations and Conclusions:
1. Temperature, among other factors, drives atmospheric CO2 much more than CO2 drives temperature. The rate of change dCO2/dt is closely correlated with temperature and thus atmospheric CO2 LAGS temperature by ~9 months in the modern data record
2. CO2 also lags temperature by ~~800 years in the ice core record, on a longer time scale.
3. Atmospheric CO2 lags temperature at all measured time scales.
4. CO2 is the feedstock for carbon-based life on Earth, and Earth’s atmosphere and oceans are clearly CO2-deficient. CO2 abatement and sequestration schemes are nonsense.
5. Based on the evidence, Earth’s climate is insensitive to increased atmospheric CO2 – there is no global warming crisis.
6. Recent global warming was natural and irregularly cyclical – the next climate phase following the ~20 year pause will probably be global cooling, starting by ~2020 or sooner.
7. Adaptation is clearly the best approach to deal with the moderate global warming and cooling experienced in recent centuries.
8. Cool and cold weather kills many more people than warm or hot weather, even in warm climates. There are about 100,000 Excess Winter Deaths every year in the USA and about 10,000 in Canada.
9. Green energy schemes have needlessly driven up energy costs, reduced electrical grid reliability and contributed to increased winter mortality, which especially targets the elderly and the poor.
10. Cheap, abundant, reliable energy is the lifeblood of modern society. When politicians fool with energy systems, real people suffer and die. That is the tragic legacy of false global warming alarmism.
Allan MacRae, P.Eng. Calgary, June 12, 2015
Post Script for Rex Tillerson:
Hi Rex,
I have two engineering degrees, have worked in the energy business on six continents since 1984 and have made very significant contributions to the Canadian oilsands and the conventional oil and gas industry – this includes personally initiating the move to new royalty and tax terms and major cost reductions that revitalized the Alberta oilsands industry. Exxon was a 25% owner in three of our joint ventures.
I suggest that few individuals have made more money for Exxon through their own initiatives than I have, and I did not even work for you. So please put on your engineering hat, study the above post, and forget about the alleged global warming crisis – it does not exist.
Regards, Allan

Reply to  Allan M.R. MacRae
June 6, 2017 9:03 am

Hi Allan, a good post. What concerns me is that so many influential people think that “the science is settled.” Science is never settled. So instead of having an intelligenjt and critical debate about the issues, climate science is treated more as a religion – or, more properly, a belief system not based on rational and demonstrable facts. President Trump has laid down a challenge – no bad thing in my view.
We know that lawyers and judges were refugees from science at school. Perhaps many politicians and bureacrats were, too?

katabasis1
June 1, 2017 12:38 pm

I can hear the wailing and gnashing already….!

RWturner
Reply to  katabasis1
June 1, 2017 1:13 pm

You didn’t hear the tiny pop of thousands of environmentalist’s heads exploding at once?

RockyRoad
Reply to  RWturner
June 1, 2017 1:16 pm

It was drowned out by the millions of Americans who were clapping and hollering APPROVAL!

JohnKnight
Reply to  RWturner
June 1, 2017 1:56 pm

I believe the correct spelling in the case you speak of is enviro-mentalist, RWturner, as there are some actual environmentalists who write some very good stuff on this site, for instance, who do provide the kind of multifaceted analysis that justifies the term.

Rick C PE
Reply to  RWturner
June 1, 2017 2:05 pm

“Splodey heads keep sploding.”
S. Palin

Rhoda R
Reply to  RWturner
June 1, 2017 2:08 pm

One thing that all of us can do is to contact the President and your Senators and Representative and let them know that you approve of this. There is going to be much wailing and gnashing of teeth over this decision and we, those of us who think it’s the right move, need to be making noise also.

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  ned
June 1, 2017 4:05 pm

So it is now recognized that Al Gore is part of Sillywood.

PeterinMD
Reply to  ned
June 2, 2017 6:47 am

Who gives a rats ass what celebrities think anyway?

Thomas
June 1, 2017 12:39 pm

+ 1000. Sanity and science won today.

June 1, 2017 12:40 pm

Excellent!!!!!!!!!!! : )

fretslider
June 1, 2017 12:40 pm

Result!

PaulH
June 1, 2017 12:40 pm

Withdrawal is the correct decision, of course. But what an enormous waste of time and money to get to this point.
/smh
(I posted this on another topic by mistake: oops)

Katherine
Reply to  PaulH
June 1, 2017 9:31 pm

Trump had to get his ducks lined up. Those bullet points listing the costs of staying in the Paris Accord are necessary to support his position and take time to prepare. But they’re exactly what I expect of a businessman.

PeterinMD
Reply to  Katherine
June 2, 2017 6:50 am

Why don’t the Democrats address the issues trump brought up, they are all just touchy feely and worry about what the rest of the world thinks……

Mumbles McGuirck
June 1, 2017 12:40 pm

He just HAD to leave the door open, just a little. It’s like NAFTA. We will re-negotiate for more favorable terms. But what would be worth our while to enter into any sort of climate accord. Is China going to pay US to not emit CO2?

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
June 1, 2017 12:42 pm

I look at that as lip service only. Not gonna happen.

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 12:46 pm

We can only hope. But I would have felt better if he just shut the door completely. Hasta lasagna, don’t get any on ya’.

pameladragon
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 12:54 pm

Yes, more than likely a sop for the AGW crowd to give them a tidge of hope.

wws
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 12:54 pm

I agree – never going to happen. The EU is going to be too butt-hurt over this to even think of renegotiating, because to do that would mean them saying that Trump was right, he could get a better deal. And they will never, ever, do that. So it’s over.
After today, Trump could barbecue up a litter of cute little puppy’s and eat them all on live TV, and I’m STILL backing him!!!

Goldrider
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 1:08 pm

I just wish he’d come out and totally discredited the AGW theory–call it the BS it is!

Oldseadog
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 1:14 pm

Goldrider,
Got it in one.

RWturner
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 1:15 pm

Agreed. It puts the ball into the Democrat’s court. If they can’t get a “fair” climate accord worked out, they fail. Good luck with that.

Latitude
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 1:20 pm

better terms means we’re not subsidizing the EU either..and that was their plan

Editor
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 3:28 pm

Lip service only? Maybe. Or maybe it’s a lot smarter than that: The Paris accord wasn’t aimed at cutting global warming, it was aimed at a new world order and at transferring wealth (as evidenced by a recent Merkel statement). So, what would a renegotiation look like?

jmarshs
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
June 1, 2017 12:52 pm

I see it as just throwing a bone to the CAGW crowd to keep them occupied. China and India and will never enter into an agreement that will harm their economies (wow, what a weird idea….).

TA
Reply to  jmarshs
June 1, 2017 1:30 pm

And I’ll bet any agreement Trump might agree to with China and India would not allow for unrestricted increases in their emissions. And I don’t think China and India would agree to such restrictions, so I don’t see any chance of a new agreement being made, just on that alone.

Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
June 1, 2017 1:27 pm

As others have said, this is a sop to Ivanka and to the “Consensus” believers.
Note that DJT mentioned MANY times the fact that India and China receive reparations while continuing to build hundreds of plants and massively increasing their CO2 output.
Trump said he is willing to will renegotiate a deal that is FAIR to the US relative to the other signees.
Anyone anticipate that any “new” deal would include provisions where the US had to cut back immediately and allowed others to continue emissions?

Mike
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
June 1, 2017 2:10 pm

I took it as a veiled challenge to the “believers” to prove whether they actually believe their own propaganda by making them put their money where their mouth is. If they truly think that the end of the world is at hand unless everyone reverts to a primitive lifestyle, then they certainly should be willing to do whatever is necessary, including dialing back their own economic development, to prevent it. Of course, they would never in a million years do that, but they’re only too happy to suck the U.S. dry if the liberal idiots would permit them.
I think this may be the best strategy, even though I would certainly have loved to hear Trump crush the false underpinnings of the theory itself. We know that if you attack the “science”, the believers just throw up a convoluted technical-sounding smokescreen that fools many because it sounds authoritative. I think a better plan of attack is to hold the proponents to their own claims, and then spotlight the rank hypocrisy that inevitably results. If they truly believed that their every action would “destroy the planet” they would radically alter their own lifestyles, which they clearly have not. If the “97% consensus” were real, the so-called “climatologists” responsible for it would be moving to higher ground to avoid the coming flood, or would be living in a tent and eating grass and twigs to prevent it. That clear disconnect between their words and their actions is EXACTLY the type of argument that resonates with average people.
It used to be easy to simply point to the failure of the latest of their short-term predictions of doom, but they finally wised up and moved the prediction goal posts beyond the lifetimes of everyone currently alive.

Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
June 1, 2017 2:20 pm

Mumbles,
good point, but it’s much like Brexit. Trump has just thrown the rest of the world a scarp of meat and they will squabble over it like madmen whilst America gets it’s shit together.
They will eventually come back, with a cobbled together deal, none of them actually agree on, and Trump will kick it into the long grass.
Meanwhile America is then competing on a global scale again, and I damn well hope we Brits sit up, take notice and hang onto it’s coat tails.
It’s a long time overdue that the UK supports the US again instead of an insular, economically stagnant EU, run by Germany (what an effing surprise)!

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  HotScot
June 1, 2017 9:54 pm

As said elsewhere:
I see London,
I see France,
I see Donald’s exit chance!

Eugene WR Gallun
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
June 1, 2017 3:04 pm

Haha! He is not leaving the door open. Do you think that that India and China (and other countries) want to do anything that costs them? — and that is what Trump will demand. By offering to renegotiate he puts them in the position of displaying their complete hypocrisy.
Eugene WR Gallun

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
June 1, 2017 4:06 pm

EU leaders issued a joint communique stating that there would be no renegotiation. Topic closed.

Gabro
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
June 1, 2017 4:23 pm

IMO Trump knew that would be the case.
Much as I would have liked for him to have called BS on CACA scientifically, I trust his political instincts.
Economic nationalism is the horse he rode in on, and he’s smart to stay in the saddle. Treating this as a bad trade deal was the way to go, IMO. It plays to his audience and puts Dumpocraps on the spot. They need to win back blue collar voters, but now can’t if they stand by the cuckoo CACA religion.

tetris
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
June 1, 2017 11:05 pm

Funny, that. And the crocodile tears…
Merkel’s government is putting on line 6 -un-mothballed- and 8 new coal fired plants -to keep the lights on and key German industries from de-locating Said in passing, with Peabody and the likes having come out of chapter 11 since DT was elected, supplying [N.B.] US coal until [mothballed] German mines start producing again.

M E Emberson
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
June 1, 2017 9:01 pm

He can set up a committee to review what we actually know about the atmosphere on this planet and
he can also call in the climate scaremongers and ask them to give their reasons for their opinions to the committee which can then examine them for scientific proof…. This will be difficult to do and may take a long time, but he can point to the committee and say something is being done.
What can they complain about ? Their concerns are being taken seriously aren’t they?
.Acknowledgements to Sir Humphrey Appleby .. fictional though he may be.

PJ Brennan
June 1, 2017 12:42 pm

Where’s that chilled champagne?

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  PJ Brennan
June 1, 2017 12:43 pm

Mine’s already open.

Beliaik
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 1:07 pm

Mine, too, and its 6am here!

Auto
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 2:45 pm

Beliaik
Much power to your elbow!
I’m on my third bottle of French Red. Doin’ fine!
Many smiles all round here.
A pity that POTUS didn’t actually ask for a Red vs. Blue Public debate on CAGW/Climate slushiness (or whatever grandiloquent sleaze name current resonates through the kleptocrats’ mansions).
Auto

ATheoK
Reply to  PJ Brennan
June 1, 2017 1:08 pm

Champagne _ell!
This calls for barrel aged bourbon or well aged burgundy!

Reply to  ATheoK
June 1, 2017 2:53 pm

Sipping a well aged celebratory bourbon here. Neat. Why send money to the frogs for champagne (except on New Years eve). Exceptions make the rule.

Reply to  PJ Brennan
June 1, 2017 2:21 pm

Beer. And lots of it thank you very much.

Joe Crawford
Reply to  HotScot
June 1, 2017 3:13 pm

To quote Willie: “Beer for my horses and whiskey for my me.”

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
Reply to  HotScot
June 1, 2017 10:49 pm

I heard about it at lunch in a bistro – they had a big screen tv showing news. Went and got a celebratory beer straight away.
As we Aussies toast: “Chug-a-lug”
Chug-a-lug to President Trump!

Gil
Reply to  PJ Brennan
June 1, 2017 2:50 pm

PJB – there’s cold champagne in my refrigerator – but not for long. Not gonna wait for the Sun to drop below the yardarm. POP!! Here’s to DJT, Lindzen, Soon, Singer, Happer, Dyson, Morano, Cruz, Lamar Smith, cwon14, Anthony, and all the rest of the team and the whole gang at WUWT – far too many to mention here.

Graemethecat
Reply to  Gil
June 1, 2017 10:22 pm

Don’t forget Judith Curry!
All these folks have shown true courage and character in the face of the most disgraceful smears and abuse from the CAGW clique.

Paul Penrose
Reply to  PJ Brennan
June 1, 2017 3:06 pm

I’ll raise a glass of Guinness later. There’s a place near my home that has it on tap. Yum!

Joel Snider
June 1, 2017 12:43 pm

He kept his promise.
This is what happens when a man is simply what he says he is, and does his best to live up to it.
Leading by example.
We’ve become so accustomed to the opposite, that we’ve begun to think it’s everybody. But ‘everybody’ does it’ is always the biggest cop out – an excuse to be no different yourself.
But if it’s not you, it’s not everybody, is it?
Cheers, everybody.

gnomish
Reply to  Joel Snider
June 1, 2017 12:52 pm

i didn’t think he would and i have never in my life been happier to be wrong.

Joel Snider
Reply to  gnomish
June 1, 2017 12:55 pm

Based on recent memory, I think you can be forgiven for being a bit jaded.

wws
Reply to  gnomish
June 1, 2017 12:56 pm

I can guarantee you Jeb Bush would never have done this, nor would Kasich, nor would McCain – the list goes on and on and on.

Reply to  wws
June 2, 2017 11:04 am

I agree most of the 17 would not have done this. of the few that would have, I think none could have done it as well as Trump. The EH* factor was worth the vote for him!
*EH – Explodey Head.

Goldrider
Reply to  Joel Snider
June 1, 2017 1:09 pm

Trump for MT. RUSHMORE!!!!! :-))))

Auto
Reply to  Goldrider
June 1, 2017 2:48 pm

Well, I think he should be 35% of they there already.
And I live across the pond.
Best POTUS since Ronnie Reagan?
Looks that way – so far – from here.
Auto

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Goldrider
June 1, 2017 4:44 pm

@Auto
Second that on the Gipper. But let’s face it, even including Bush I and Bush II, the bar was barely off the ground.

gnomish
Reply to  Goldrider
June 1, 2017 6:24 pm

“… the bar was barely off the ground.”
the president that didn’t try for Limbo King!
and he made it look so easy.
heh- kuhn cats just got turpentined

Frank K.
June 1, 2017 12:43 pm

Making the climate great again!!

Resourceguy
June 1, 2017 12:43 pm

They actually included many of the points I would have listed. That’s great.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Resourceguy
June 1, 2017 1:18 pm

That’s what I thought was earth-shattering: President Trump’s excoriating illumination of a transfer of wealth from despots that support the UN in their globalization at the expense of the G7, particularly the US.

Latitude
Reply to  RockyRoad
June 1, 2017 1:22 pm

He nailed every talking point…and burned them a new one at the same time

TA
Reply to  RockyRoad
June 1, 2017 1:33 pm

Yes, he did nail every talking point. I thought he did a very good job.

Reply to  Resourceguy
June 1, 2017 2:34 pm

It’s the first Trump speech, nay, any American presidential speech I have ever watched.
What impressed me, above all, is that the guy talks our language.
Which may be feint praise from an ignoramus like me, but he fulfilled a campaign promise, explained why, in clear, plain English, and sent out a message that he was working for America, no one else.
I may live to regret saying this, but who wouldn’t want a boss like that?
Many may call it a partisan speech, and I’ll 100% agree with that, and the last British politician to deliver partisan messages so powerful was Winston Churchill.
Trump has just done what many great leaders have done in the past; fulfilled a promise and clearly explained why.
AGW itself is a political, ideological, philosophical and scientific battleground for the planet. This is WW3, thankfully we have learned to wage it without ordnance.
Win or lose, on either side, this should be the one great positive we take from all this.
Talking is better than fighting.

Reply to  HotScot
June 1, 2017 2:57 pm

HS, yup. And I am now proudly a US Clinton deplorable—despite three Harvard degrees and a Wellesley former wife of 30 years..

lsk1956
Reply to  HotScot
June 1, 2017 3:35 pm

+100 Agreed, and very well said!

stan stendera
Reply to  HotScot
June 1, 2017 4:19 pm

My highest honor: +1776

TA
Reply to  HotScot
June 1, 2017 4:39 pm

Hillary also called us deplorables “the political underbelly” a couple of days ago.
The Justice Department needs to prosecute her and put her in jail so we don’t have to listen to her anymore.

gnomish
Reply to  HotScot
June 1, 2017 6:26 pm

not really.
talking and fighting can’t compare to winning.

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  HotScot
June 1, 2017 10:04 pm

Praise the Lord,
and pass the ammunition!

Man Bearpig
June 1, 2017 12:45 pm

Best news since trump won the election. America will be great again

June 1, 2017 12:46 pm
John
June 1, 2017 12:46 pm

Finally, some sanity.

a_generalist
June 1, 2017 12:47 pm

A great step in the right direction. We might be in the dark soon here in the people’s republic of green california, but at least we’ll have a country to which we can escape.

sycomputing
Reply to  a_generalist
June 1, 2017 12:51 pm

You’re more than welcome in Texas right now? We’re going to need you since some of your “countrymen” coming this way are flaming libs…

wws
Reply to  sycomputing
June 1, 2017 12:59 pm

I’m thinking that after this announcement today, our Gov. Abbott might pull a Strangelove, and stand up saying “My President! I can walk!!!”

whiten
Reply to  a_generalist
June 1, 2017 2:00 pm

a_generalist
June 1, 2017 at 12:47 pm
You did not hear anything did you???!!!!…..you just have being given the power to end your nightmare in Cal……
The extraordinary road block has just being lifted for you guys…..Sue your Government and your state, now….You can;t lose…is a 97% win versus 3%…….
The odds already reversed in your favor..clearly.
The main and only problem up to now was the road block….it has being just lifted for you by your good President.
No any State govt.t in the USA territory has any valid defense anymore against the people in the matter of green policy and legislation…in any court of the land….as far as I can tell
The odds of winning in any court of the land against any green policy incentive or legislation is in the favor of the people when against the govt.
The odds are like and actually tuned to and in context of the Congressional testimonies……3 versus 1, when the 1, is the laughing stock, which can not be considered otherwise in any kind of rationale arena of judgement…..no good at all in any matter of defense to the green mannure by any govt…
It is all up to you now, the people of the USA………Make the rest of the world proud, about you and your amazing unique constitution……
Please do try to enjoy it….for what ever worth….it is amazing….
cheers

Rhoda R
Reply to  whiten
June 1, 2017 2:12 pm

This will also provide moral support for those eastern European nations that aren’t drinking the ecoKoolaide.

Auto
Reply to  whiten
June 1, 2017 2:57 pm

Rhoda
It may – might – perhaps, strengthen the sinews of those here who consider this a Kleptocrat’s dream.
Auto, in south London.

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  a_generalist
June 1, 2017 10:08 pm

I dunno, Generalist, we might have to put a wall around your state to keep the rest of us from becoming californicated.

Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 12:47 pm

Proud Trump voter here.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 2:36 pm

I must say, I had my doubts, but good on ya.

docforesight
June 1, 2017 12:48 pm

No renegotiation. Send it to the Senate for their vote, as all treaties are required to do.

Tom Halla
June 1, 2017 12:48 pm

I am watching the announcement. Trump is washing the Paris Accord in holy water and burying it in a crossroads with a stake in its heart.

Larry Hamlin
June 1, 2017 12:48 pm

Great news for the U.S. and world!!
The biased climate alarmist MSM and climate alarmist governments will have their heads “exploding” all over the world.

Goldrider
Reply to  Larry Hamlin
June 1, 2017 1:10 pm

BITE IT, Lefties!!!!

Jones
Reply to  Larry Hamlin
June 1, 2017 1:15 pm

Reply to  Jones
June 1, 2017 2:44 pm

Jesus.
What insane mind even conceived of this?
It is really disgusting. No matter what side it’s from. Although it’s obvious which side it’s from.
These people are psychopaths.

Jones
Reply to  Jones
June 1, 2017 7:17 pm

HotScot,
Yes, they are..

Reply to  Larry Hamlin
June 1, 2017 1:17 pm

I do like the smell of “Lefty”heads exploding in the morning.These Trumpaphobics are a laugh a minute.

TA
Reply to  Clive Hoskin
June 1, 2017 1:36 pm

It’s going to get crazy.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Clive Hoskin
June 1, 2017 1:44 pm

Yeah, I live just outside Portland Oregon – I’m staying inside tonight.

BallBounces
June 1, 2017 12:50 pm

Trump’s practice of coal-diss interruptus is a model for a climate sex-crazed world.

Johan M
June 1, 2017 12:50 pm

Congratulation, it will take some time before Europe follows suite but it’s just a matter of time.

Goldrider
Reply to  Johan M
June 1, 2017 1:10 pm

A number of Eastern European countries will follow within a week–wait ‘n see!

Latitude
Reply to  Goldrider
June 1, 2017 1:23 pm

that’s a safe bet

Ernest Bush
Reply to  Goldrider
June 1, 2017 1:54 pm

They will have to pull out of the EU first.

Auto
Reply to  Goldrider
June 1, 2017 3:00 pm

Ernest
They may look at that.
See Hungary, and perhaps others.
Frau Merkel’s open door to, well, anyone [who can drive a truck through a Christmas Market (or should I not mention that?)] did not help one whit.
Auto

Gil
Reply to  Goldrider
June 1, 2017 3:09 pm

PJB – there’s cold champagne in my refrigerator – but not for long. Not gonna wait for the Sun to drop below the yardarm. POP!! Here’s to DJT, Lindzen, Soon, Singer, Happer, Dyson, Morano, Cruz, Lamar Smith, cwon14, Anthony, and all the rest of the team and the whole gang at WUWT – far too many to mention here.

H.R. (Gone fishing in S.C.)
Reply to  Johan M
June 1, 2017 2:02 pm

@Johan M – There’s no point in any country staying in now that the U.S. piggy bank is off the table.

Graemethecat
Reply to  H.R. (Gone fishing in S.C.)
June 1, 2017 10:29 pm

True. The Paris Accord was never about the climate, but about transferring Western (mainly US) wealth to the undeserving Third World.

Reply to  Johan M
June 1, 2017 2:47 pm

Ernest Bush
“They will have to pull out of the EU first.”
So, ze evil EU dos indeed control everything zat goes on in every eendividual member state.
Eeentresting.

June 1, 2017 12:51 pm

A triumph of reason and science fact over belief in religous science fiction that must not be challenged (as its making too much money for its insiders at our expesnse, while making the CO2 emissions net worse than gas and nuclear with no overpriced BS renewables in the process (they don’t want you to know that.) CEng, CPhys, MBA.

F. Ross
June 1, 2017 12:51 pm

Climexit!

Chimp
Reply to  F. Ross
June 1, 2017 1:15 pm

Let’s hope for multiple climexits!

oldfossil2003
Reply to  Chimp
June 1, 2017 1:52 pm

I think you mean Clexit. Google it.

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  Chimp
June 1, 2017 10:14 pm

Parisexit
Parrasitus

June 1, 2017 12:52 pm

Now all we need to do is continue harping on about the trillions of dollars that are to be “spent” — by whom and given to whom and to do what precisely? — which will have precisely zero impact on climate, on world temperature, on sea level, on arctic ice, on polar bears, on tornados, hurricanes, cyclones, coral reefs, except (perhaps) at the margins and certainly not in the lifetime of anyone currently on this planet.
The Paris agreement like all the others has no scientific rationale and is designed only to impoverish mankind to satisfy the control freaks in the environmental movement.
Nothing else matters.

June 1, 2017 12:52 pm

Listening to his speech, he’s spot on in just about everything he’s saying so far…

Doug in Calgary
June 1, 2017 12:53 pm

Good stuff!!! Gonna be a lot of wrist injuries from all the hand wringing…

Tregonsee
June 1, 2017 12:54 pm

Listening to the coverage, whether CNN or FNC, there is still the underlying assumption that “97% of climate scientists agree…..” Perhaps we need a contest to come up with a rebuttal of that “Fake Science” which has real punch and can be said in 5-10 sentences or less? As long as this meme is out there, people will get away with disparaging his actions as an ignorant, greedy capitalist.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Tregonsee
June 1, 2017 1:09 pm

If there really was a climate issue, then the advocates of intervention wouldn’t need to “tell lies with facts”, such as the well known the warmest year/month ever recorded.
The proof of their dishonesty is found within their own words.

Robert Wykoff
Reply to  Tregonsee
June 1, 2017 1:17 pm

I think it would be better to simply name as many skeptical scientists as we can, and demand that they name 97 “scientists with the correct views” for each skeptical scientist we name. For extra credit, have them name scientists who’s revenue sources are not 100% dependent on finding human causes to warming.

TA
Reply to  Tregonsee
June 1, 2017 1:42 pm

What skeptics need to do is create a list of all the failed predictions that have been made for CAGW, as a counter to the alarmists running out all their talking points, including the 97 percent talking point.
You can bet the alarmists will be saying Trump’s actions are going to cause this or that dire consequence, and they will be repeating it like a mantra.
So skeptics need a list of all their past failed predictions to demonstrate that these people are just hysterical and are always getting the predictions wrong, so people shouldn’t listen to them because they don’t know what they are talking about.

June 1, 2017 12:54 pm

Two pieces of good news for me from the USA. One in New York and one in Washington DC. Yippeeeee

Chimp
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
June 1, 2017 1:22 pm

The CACA organized criminal conspirators out the Lucchese family in the shade.

Chimp
Reply to  Chimp
June 1, 2017 1:36 pm

For “out” please read “put”.

phaedo
June 1, 2017 12:54 pm

One of the great moments in history.

Ian Magness
Reply to  phaedo
June 1, 2017 1:01 pm

I agree. Trump has shown real leadership tonight. How I wish we had such leadership in Britain now.

Reply to  Ian Magness
June 1, 2017 1:23 pm

The Fake Stream Media: “It’s Our Job to Control What People Think.”
Don’t believe ANYTHING the MSM tell you.They LIE.
Take heart,there is more to mizz May than the ENEMEDIA are telling us.

graphicconception
Reply to  Ian Magness
June 1, 2017 1:24 pm

+1
“How I wish we had such leadership in Britain now.”
Perhaps we should emigrate. Don’t you just have to commit a crime then sneak in over the border to get lots of benefits and a free lawyer to fight any suggested repatriation?

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  Ian Magness
June 1, 2017 10:23 pm

Purge the ENEMADIA!

Reply to  phaedo
June 1, 2017 1:52 pm

Love it or hate it, all will agree with that statement.

pouncer
June 1, 2017 12:55 pm

Joel says: “He kept his promise. This is what happens when a man is simply what he says he is, and does his best to live up to it. Leading by example.”
Please, it is not as if Mr Trump’s predecessor promised, and failed, to close Guantanamo, lower average health insurance premiums, provide speedy and transparent responses to Open Records / Freedom of Information requests, or keep us out of war-like engagements without Declarations of War by Congress.
Keeping a promise, a deal, one’s side of the bargain — it is just government as usual. Which is no doubt why Mr Trump, a business dealer rather than a politician, is so odd about the process.

Mark T
Reply to  pouncer
June 1, 2017 1:23 pm

Um, that was Joel’s point. Trump is what he says he is, his predecessor was not. Not even close, in fact, and that one’s supporters screamed the loudest about what he was vs. what he said he was. “That’s not what he meant!” was a mantra I grew tired of hearing.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Mark T
June 1, 2017 1:30 pm

I think he was be facetious, and highlighting the comparison to Trump’s ‘predecessor’.

Chris
Reply to  Mark T
June 1, 2017 9:53 pm

“Trump is what he says he is, his predecessor was not.”
Right. Trump was going to repeal the ACA in his first 30 days. Didn’t do that. He was going to build a wall. hasn’t done that – in part because the predominately Republican states that have borders with mexico don’t want one. he was going to drain the swamp – he’s asked for more conflict of interest waivers than any other President.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Mark T
June 2, 2017 10:02 am

That’s all pretty self-serving of you Chris. What Trump’s done against unprecedented resistance and near constant political assassination is really quite admirable.
Unclench and stop projecting.

Chris
Reply to  Mark T
June 2, 2017 12:44 pm

Joel said: “What Trump’s done against unprecedented resistance and near constant political assassination is really quite admirable.”
Quite amusing, Trump has a majority in the House and Senate and still can’t get things done. Thanks for confirming that you are a person who sails through life almost nonexistent ambitions.

June 1, 2017 12:55 pm

You are probably hearing quiet sounds of relief from taxpayers all over the world!
Thanks Donald. Thank you to the United States for standing up to Euro-Bullies.
Your Canadian neighbour may argue with you, but we have many things in common.
Great news.
Wayne Delbeke, Faraway, Alberta, Canada.

DrTorch
June 1, 2017 12:57 pm

Great move. Keep ’em coming President Trump.

Bulaman
June 1, 2017 12:57 pm

I love the smell of defunding in the morning!
with apologies to Apoc now!

SteveC
June 1, 2017 12:58 pm

Well the Paris domino just fell!

Goldrider
Reply to  SteveC
June 1, 2017 1:12 pm

. . . and Merkel just went to bed early with a jug of Jager!

Non Nomen
Reply to  Goldrider
June 1, 2017 1:54 pm

Let us pray that if she’ll ever wake up again she’ll suffer from things worse than a mighty hangover.

old engineer
June 1, 2017 12:58 pm

My sentiments are summed up by Winston Churchill’s statement during WWII : “It is not yet the end, it perhaps is not yet the beginning of the end, but it is certainly the end of the beginning,” The tide has at last turned!

Nigel S
Reply to  old engineer
June 1, 2017 1:50 pm

“This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”
The Lord Mayor’s Luncheon, Mansion House, November 10, 1942
Sorry to be pedantic but he was a great craftsman and worked hard at his speeches.

joelobryan
June 1, 2017 12:59 pm

Thank you President Trump.
With this announcement, I can unplug from world climate scam fight and the internet, and start my summer holiday that may stretch into the fall. Who knows.
My guess is rhis will start a world-wide unraveling of the socialist agenda disguised as CAGW alarmism.
My Unplugging:
Step 1. Delete Twitter account
Step 2. Turn off email news alerts-feeds.
Step 3. Get off the internet completely.
Getaway:
Step 5. Pack up the dog in the car, go visit my folks.
Step 6. Get a travel trailer, and hit the road sightseeing.
Enjoy cheap gas.
Frack, baby, frack. Make OPEC hurt, bad.
And an “especial” Thanks to Anthony for all these years of fighting the good fight against climate alarmism and exposing the climate liars like Mann, Cook, Lewandowski, Romm, Borenstein, Algore, Nye, etc.
Best to all.
Joel

Chimp
Reply to  joelobryan
June 1, 2017 1:13 pm

Bon voyage!
Or, considering the rejection of Paris, Buen Viaje!

TA
Reply to  joelobryan
June 1, 2017 2:00 pm

You will be missed, Joel.
I paid $1.99 per gallon for gasoline yesterday. 🙂

Mickey Reno
Reply to  joelobryan
June 1, 2017 2:59 pm

Cheap travel game for smart phone owners: figure out how many gas and oil pipelines you’ve driven over each day!

stan stendera
Reply to  joelobryan
June 1, 2017 4:36 pm

+1776 T Anthony +1,776,000,000,000

Gary
June 1, 2017 1:00 pm

Which countries will follow and how fast will they do it? US withdrawal means the rent-seekers will have to look elsewhere.

Reed Coray
June 1, 2017 1:01 pm

What a day! What a day! Finally, someone with the chutzpah to defy the AGW Climate Machine. As far as I’m concerned Trump just earned 10 “get out of jail free” cards.

wws
June 1, 2017 1:01 pm

Meanwhile, in NYC, Mayor Deh Blahsio has vowed to stay in the accord and shut down all of the extensive coal mining operations underneath the streets of the city.

Goldrider
Reply to  wws
June 1, 2017 1:15 pm

Hey, the Lefties and their donor class are invited to knock themselves out subsidizing all the Green Weird their checkbooks can handle; park your Tesla in a solar-panelled garage, eat your poop-infused hydroponic kale and give everything left over to the UN; just don’t expect the U.S. taxpayer to prop up this lie any longer.

TA
Reply to  Goldrider
June 1, 2017 2:05 pm

“Hey, the Lefties and their donor class are invited to knock themselves out subsidizing all the Green Weird their checkbooks can handle;”
That’s right. Feel free to take charge of New York’s climate, Bill de Blasio, just don’t ask us to pay for it, pay for it yourself. That goes for all the other Liberal politicians in the country who claim they are going to follow the Paris Agreement anyway. Do your virtue signaling, but don’t ask us to pay for it.

June 1, 2017 1:03 pm

Go back and tell ’em what works best for energy supply and CO2 reduction. Not their BS solutions that can’t on the energy science fact, the only thing it does well is create the bogus renewables industry with its easy profits by law and its hangers on, all paid with our wasted money.

AndyG55
Reply to  brianrlcatt
June 1, 2017 1:18 pm

Go back and tell them it anti-science to try to reduce CO2 emissions.
If that happens as a side-effect of efficiency and reductions of real pollution, so be it…
… but it is way past time that we stopped pandering to the idea that CO2 emission is in any way anything but a benefit.

Reply to  AndyG55
June 9, 2017 2:48 pm

The atmosphere started off as CO2 and water vapour. Plants ate all the CO2 back to trace levels they still maintai, to keep themselves ad us alive. Why woud this process not work just as well for the tiny amount we produce, a simple green up fixes all. And anyway, CO2 is mainly a consequence of the Oceans, vocanos and life, not a real problem, the controlling heat for the climate is in the long term thermal store of the oceans, 1,000 times as much as is in the atmosphere. The solar variation is weather, noise on the bigger picture..

Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 1:03 pm

Excellent speech! Also, Pruitt’s speech makes it a one-two punch. A knock-out blow to the Paris “agreement”, and to the CAGW hegemony.

wws
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 1:08 pm

Some people are saying that Trump is the Second Coming of Reagan, but I think Reagan was just the First Coming of Trump.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  wws
June 1, 2017 1:12 pm

Well said.

Goldrider
Reply to  wws
June 1, 2017 1:16 pm

+100!

Victoria
Reply to  wws
June 1, 2017 1:38 pm

Beautiful!

Paul Jackson
Reply to  wws
June 1, 2017 1:59 pm

IDK time will tell, personalty I credit Reagan with Ending the cold-war and setting the country on a trajectory of prosperity that took two Bushes and a Clinton to end. Trump is off to a good start.

TA
Reply to  wws
June 1, 2017 2:14 pm

One thing Reagan and Trump have in common is both of them know/knew what they want to do and how to get there. They have core values and they are not deterred by how the leftwing political wind is blowing at the time.

Wharfplank
June 1, 2017 1:05 pm

Woo Hoo !! There is going to be an utter meltdown on tonight’s Network “News”. If we could harness it we COULD “leave it in the ground.”

TA
Reply to  Wharfplank
June 1, 2017 2:15 pm

The meltdown has already started!

Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 1:06 pm

And now comes popcorn time. Life just doesn’t get any better.

London247
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 2:07 pm

UK Guardian comments are approaching apoplexy factor nine.

Science or Fiction
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 2:38 pm

Who would have thought this a year ago. 🙂

June 1, 2017 1:06 pm

Thank you Anthony Watts
Long hard road
Hats off to you
Almost as tough as installing sonic and metal detection sensors on the Ho Che Mein trails in Laos!!!???
Igloo white

Eustace Cranch
June 1, 2017 1:07 pm

As I explain to my alarmist acquaintances: You don’t give someone chemotherapy when they don’t have cancer. The Paris Accord is chemotherapy.

Reply to  Eustace Cranch
June 1, 2017 2:06 pm

But you forget the precautionary principle. To make sure you don’t get cancer, all your organs should be replaced, your limbs cut off, and you need three regimens of chemo.

climatereason
Editor
June 1, 2017 1:07 pm

After his election there were a lot of political troublemakers out on the streets . this decision will enrage the climate activists AND his political opponents and presumably they may be out on the streets again in large numbers?
Tonyb

Chimp
Reply to  climatereason
June 1, 2017 1:10 pm

There are certain sections of the Rust Belt which I wouldn’t recommend the Environ@zis try to invade.

Nigel S
Reply to  Chimp
June 1, 2017 1:58 pm

“Are my eyes really brown?”

TA
Reply to  climatereason
June 1, 2017 2:19 pm

I’m curious as to how big this is going to blow up on the Left.
No doubt there will be some protest marches because the Left has organized and has lots of money to throw around to pay marchers, so I would expect we will see some of them, but I wonder just how much energy there is in this movement. We will certainly find out in the near future.

Reply to  TA
June 2, 2017 9:23 am

Based upon the past 24 hours, the only thing bigger was the actual election of Trump. My popcorn futures are soaring!

Chris
Reply to  TA
June 2, 2017 12:47 pm

The Fortune 1000 – in other words, the companies that are the backbone of the US economy, have called this a colossal mistake. They will do their best to work around it. They will not let a clueless President stop their efforts.

rw
Reply to  climatereason
June 2, 2017 1:40 pm

That’s why we needed someone like this. To break out of the politics as usual straightjacket.

London247
June 1, 2017 1:09 pm

Genuine respect and admiration to Trump and America. The first head of the hydra has been removed from the monstrosity of the AGW myth.
And I am also heartened as it reinforces democracy. He has done what he promised ( probably in the face of a barrage of criticism and lobbying)
Trump made some high profile pledges
The travel ban frustrated by the judiciary
The Wall no significant progress
If he had failed to deliver on this then people may have turned away from democratic elections to favour the less attractive forms of human governance.
God bless America.

Reply to  London247
June 1, 2017 1:14 pm

We’ll done President Trump. Excellent speech and decision. Wish we had you as our Prime Minister here in UK.

Reply to  mud4fun
June 1, 2017 1:36 pm

Most countries today need someone like Trump …
Now it is time to deflate the faulty EU balloon …

TA
Reply to  mud4fun
June 1, 2017 2:23 pm

“Most countries today need someone like Trump …”
One thing about it, Trump’s leadership will rub off on other leaders. His actions are going to make everyone pause and think about basic issues, and other natural born leaders around the world will step up. Monkey see, monkey do.

Chris Wright
Reply to  mud4fun
June 2, 2017 3:56 am

Yes, I’d definitely vote Trump if I were an American. I also hope he will make progress cutting taxes and regulation.
I would have been a life-long Conservative voter, but no longer. I will not vote for them until they have promised to scrap the Climate Change Bill, which will achieve nothing but human misery.
I didn’t watch the leader’s debate (minus the PM) but apparently Paul Nuttall was the only leader to believe that Trump was right to leave. I’ll definitely be voting UKIP next Thursday.
Trump’s speech was excellent, but there was one disappointment: there was no mention of the massive problems in climate science. But he did make one powerful point: that if Paris were fully implemented, by the end of the century it would reduce the global temperature by – drum roll please – 0.2C (according to Lomberg it would be just 0.05C).
The Paris agreement is a criminal act based on wrong and possibly fraudulent science, on massive vested interests and on the desire to destroy the independence of national democracies.
What Trump did yesterday has made the world a better place, particularly for the poor. But there is still much work to do……
Chris

Goldrider
Reply to  London247
June 1, 2017 1:19 pm

Taking back American soverignty; at three minutes to midnight, too. Good thing the Leftists were so overconfident, so sure they had it in the bag, that they showed their hand last summer. Hillary’s Sore Loser Tour is all they’ve got left . . . oh, and Cher. Maybe she’ll give that Kathy Griffin loser a job, too.

Paul Jackson
Reply to  Goldrider
June 1, 2017 2:03 pm

I figure that Kathy Griffin will start off on a new comedy tour, opening for Bill Cosby and sharing his tour bus.

TA
Reply to  Goldrider
June 1, 2017 2:25 pm

“Hillary’s Sore Loser Tour”
Yeah, what a pathetic display. Even the Democrats are getting sick of her.

jvcstone
Reply to  London247
June 1, 2017 3:40 pm

London–no progress on the wall, but illegal border crossings from Mexico are way, way down, and illegal arrests are way up. Seems that just the thought of Trump has a lot to do with that.

Paul Hanlon
June 1, 2017 1:10 pm

What a masterstroke!!! America out, but will “re-negotiate”. Hey America, NOW you’re back. Also I hope Anthony sees this as vindication for the hard yards he has done in putting our side of the story out there. Bravo!!

William Astley
Reply to  Paul Hanlon
June 1, 2017 2:45 pm

I totally agree. No politician can run to accept the old US Paris accord deal.
Why would the US pay the majority of the $200 billion/year ‘green fund’?
The punks at the UN, say the $200 billion/year is only a start. The actual number, they say will be, around 2020, be closer to $1 to $2 trillion dollars/year.
Sound like a bad ‘deal’ for the US?

Reply to  William Astley
June 1, 2017 3:13 pm

It was ‘only’ 100 billion/year by 2020. US ‘fair share’ was ‘only’ almost half. Trump just homered.

pat
June 1, 2017 1:11 pm

thank you President Trump.
thank you Anthony Watts and all those in the CAGW sceptic community.

June 1, 2017 1:13 pm

Now we can call it the “Paris Discord”.
… one of the few times that we find accord in the experience of discord.

bill mckibben
June 1, 2017 1:14 pm

Congratulations on stalwart organizing. I hate the result, and I fear history will as well, but I admire the persistence

Chimp
Reply to  bill mckibben
June 1, 2017 1:17 pm

Generous of you in defeat.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  bill mckibben
June 1, 2017 1:20 pm

Organizing? Poor misguided Bill. It is the truth that is beating you. Sad that you do not yet see that. Maybe someday you will.

TA
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 2:29 pm

You have it right, Bruce, it is the truth that is winning the day.
Nobody is less organized than the skeptic community. It was all Trump, with a few inputs from skeptics.

Chris
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 2, 2017 12:51 pm

Bruce, the Fortune 1000, most of the world’s countries, the world’s scientific bodies, all say Trump is wrong. Sad that you don’t see that. History will prove you wrong – of course, you’ll still say it’s natural variation. How depressing to go through life with no true intellectual curiosity.

Reply to  Chris
June 2, 2017 2:14 pm

Links? I am sure you can post multiple posts to include each of the 1000 CEOs saying just that.

Chris
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 3, 2017 3:25 am

Here is a partial list: https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/05/31/Here-are-the-oil-and-coal-companies-Fortune-500-corporations-and-Republicans-who-want-to-s/216719
I’m sure you can provide me with a list showing all the Fortune 500/1000 companies that have said that AGW is not a major concern.

RACookPE1978
Editor
Reply to  Chris
June 3, 2017 4:24 am

Chris

I’m sure you can provide me with a list showing all the Fortune 500/1000 companies that have said that AGW is not a major concern.

And, under Obama’s regime of corruption and his legislation-by-decree, control-by-anonymous-bueauracrats, NO company can say in public ANYTHING contrary to his dictatorship. He did, after all, put out of business a single bakery who opposed his homosexual agenda, declared climate change the priority for his Defense Dept in a time when his soldiers were being killed in the countries he sent to fight, and set his Sec of State fighting climate change. In 2009, he killed auto companies who did not support his government. To repeat, NO company who wished to survive his dictatorship could say “No.” And many, like my own, used his subsidies to scheme billions from his government in windmills, solar events, and endless “summits” and propaganda sessions.

Reply to  Chris
June 6, 2017 4:47 am

Sorry, that does not qualify for many reasons, not the least of which is that the link does not contain quotes from even “most” (as is purported) supporting Paris. Nor are the quotes in the article sourced, and the link is to a decidedly proven fake news source (proven so).
So once again, link to the quotes of all 1000 CEOs showing support for the Paris Accord. Put up or shut up.

Reply to  Chris
June 6, 2017 4:48 am

And, and just for the record, I have made no claims, so have nothing to prove. You should learn to read before making impotent boasts.

Chris
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 3, 2017 12:17 pm

RA Cook, your assertion is that Obama intimidate companies into compliance. So now, with Trump in office, they should not feel shackled. Please provide links proving that many of those companies are now saying different things about climate change.

Butch
Reply to  bill mckibben
June 1, 2017 1:21 pm

Maybe you should look in a mirror and question your idea of reality ? Just a thought……

Goldrider
Reply to  bill mckibben
June 1, 2017 1:22 pm

A “problem” which is NO problem is NO PROBLEM. Time to worry about something that’s real, and in need of solving; like Ebola, cancer, autism, and traffic jams. This has restored my faith in common sense over popular delusions and the madness of crowds–and big, BIG lies.

Reply to  Goldrider
June 2, 2017 6:17 am

It may or may not be a problem. However, even by its own admission, the Paris Accord does NOTHING to address the problem/no problem.

AndyG55
Reply to  bill mckibben
June 1, 2017 1:22 pm

Towards 700ppm. CO2 🙂

Chimp
Reply to  AndyG55
June 1, 2017 1:25 pm

Better yet, 1050 ppm, closer to where plants like it best; 1400 might be too much of a good thing.
Unfortunately, we probably won’t even make it to 600 ppm.

AndyG55
Reply to  AndyG55
June 1, 2017 1:48 pm

Good to see you kept the multiples of 350. 🙂
Just for Bill. 🙂

Chimp
Reply to  AndyG55
June 1, 2017 4:36 pm

Following your lead.
But so do multiples of 400. The ideal level is around 1200 ppm, but 800 is way better than 400 ppm.

Goldrider
Reply to  AndyG55
June 1, 2017 4:49 pm

Aw, c’mon, that’s too much time jiggling on the damn mowing machine . . .

stan stendera
Reply to  AndyG55
June 1, 2017 4:52 pm

+701

AndyG55
Reply to  bill mckibben
June 1, 2017 1:23 pm

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blcjr
Editor
Reply to  bill mckibben
June 1, 2017 1:24 pm

Not to diminish Anthony’s role in providing a forum for dissident voices to be heard, but to chalk this up to “organizing” is either naive or damning with faint praise. “Organizing” is what you do to shape an outcome that isn’t likely to stand on the merits. This site, and the voices that it empowers, isn’t “organizing” anything. To borrow an oft mis-used phrase, we’re just “speaking truth to power.” As one who came of age in the 1960’s, and lived through the Greening of America, in those days it seemed that it was the left “speaking truth” to the power of the right. My, how times have changed!

Chimp
Reply to  blcjr
June 1, 2017 1:26 pm

Anth@ny’s blog brought together people to improve their understanding of CACA. IMO, that could be considered a form of organizing, even though the people “organized” came here of their own accord.

blcjr
Editor
Reply to  blcjr
June 1, 2017 2:24 pm

Chimp,
I think my view of “organizing” has been influenced by the association with “community organizer,” “trade union organizer,” etc. I see your point, but still think that the term has a taint to it.

Reply to  bill mckibben
June 1, 2017 1:34 pm

I’ll bet that in the future people will look back and think”What the hell were our ancestors smoking?CO2 caused global warming?Ridiculous!”

Leonard Lane
Reply to  bill mckibben
June 1, 2017 2:22 pm

Bill.
This is more about truth than organizing. Global warming is not a real issue and psueadoscients and their useful idiots are the only ones who claim it is.

Chris
Reply to  Leonard Lane
June 1, 2017 7:01 pm

“Global warming is not a real issue and psueadoscients and their useful idiots are the only ones who claim it is.”
So I guess you are calling the Fortune 1000 useful idiots.

Science or Fiction
Reply to  bill mckibben
June 1, 2017 2:56 pm

There is nothing to fear, Trump’s decision will not have a significant impact on global temperature even if all the exaggerations by United Nations were right.

Reply to  bill mckibben
June 1, 2017 3:16 pm

BM, if you had studied the actual science, you would not fear this result. Observational ECS is half of CMIP5 models. And those models are disproven by other means like the lak of a modeled Tropical Troposphere Hot Spot. Despite all your shenanigans, you lost to truth speaking skeptics.
Truth will out.

Frederic
Reply to  bill mckibben
June 1, 2017 3:59 pm

” I hate the result, and I fear history will as well, ”
Don’t fear, Bill. You alarmists are always wrong in predictions.

Reply to  Frederic
June 2, 2017 11:05 am

@Frederic – That deserves an upvote!

M Courtney
June 1, 2017 1:14 pm

I’m having this conversation on the Guardian report. Copying it here as I suspect that it will disappear soon.
Just for the record, you understand. It’s long so feel free to skip.
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BigL64 1h ago
I don’t think there is any intelligent argument for doing this, unless you are on the take from oil companies.
Pathetic.
MCourtney BigL64 41m ago
Read the article:

The deal also accomplishes LITTLE for the climate
According to researchers at MIT, if all member nations met their obligations, the impact on the climate would be negligible. The impacts have been estimated to be likely to reduce global temperature rise by less than .2 degrees Celsius in 2100.

So mainstream science makes it clear – this isn’t about climate.
It’s the economy, stupid (to quote Clinton).
Also note why China welcomes this plan.

Under the Accord, China will actually increase emissions until 2030

Which is a relative advantage for China compared to the US (and EU) jobs. Because cheap energy is good for the economy.
There is clearly an intelligent argument to be made.
1) The Paris Accords make no measurable impact on the climate (0.2°C is within the measurement error let alone the model error).
2) The Paris Accords weaken the US economy relative to China.
3) The US president may be owned by Russia but he isn’t owned by China.
BigL64 MCourtney 29m ago
Your entire argument relies on the assumption that the US is pulling out to pursue a better, more impactful climate change initiative.
They aren’t.
This administration is pulling out because, like the EPA, climate change regulations represent a danger to short term business growth opportunities.
Who gives a fuck about the economy if we don’t have a planet to spend descretionary income on? Our children’s children will be living on a desert waste land, fighting over water and cock roaches, but hey, at least those fuckin coal miners kept their jobs for a few more years and we stuck two fingers to china.
Also, China is likely welcoming the US withdrawl. It gives them the power seat and, as they grow in influence, the us will continue to struggle.
ID2872597 MCourtney 16m ago
Well said McCourtney! Now if only some one actually read your post rather than screeching.
OurPlanet ID2872597 9m ago
I have read his post one and twice, meanwhile you may need to take off your filtered
short termist specs and open your eyes to the big picture and the future of our children and their children. Not unless you are a climate change deniar though , then my argument will fall on deaf ears.
ID2872597 OurPlanet
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MCourtney BigL64 7m ago
No. My argument is that the US is pulling out to benefit their economy.
And that that is a sensible thing to do as Paris will harm their economy while doing nothing for the climate.
You may be right about China. But I suspect that their influence will be proportional to their economic strength.
After all, China has no moral authority on the Climate. They have no responsibilities until 2030. That’s far beyond any meaningful political timeframe.
MCourtney 5m ago
0.2°C is not a threat to the planet. It is not measurable as it’s too small. And it’s well within the error boundaries of the models.
The only person denying the science in this conversation is you.
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Hopefully this will not be deleted by the Guardian but my experience is not positive.

M Courtney
Reply to  M Courtney
June 1, 2017 2:32 pm

For completeness. Again, please ignore my use of this website as a Cloud resource.
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BigL64 ID2872597 1h ago
Troll identified. Ignore.
MCourtney BigL64 1h ago
I did read your post. The key mistake it made was to equate 0.2°C with “living on a desert waste land, fighting over water and cock roaches”.
The poverty you are campaigning for is real. Those miners have families they need to provide for. Your lack of compassion is cruel.
The disaster you fantasise is not real. It is not the effect of 0.2°C. It is the effect of playing Fallout 4 on LSD.
BigL64 MCourtney 53m ago
You’re flailing. You’re also misrepresenting my point. I didn’t say a .2 degree C increase leads to an apocalypse.
I was obviously implying that the current administration is disengenuous in their justification for pulling out of the deal. You’ve eloquently repeated ever single republican talking point on the subject. The reality remains the same: well what the fuck else do you purpose?
Republicans have this amazing ability to burn down the house, forgetting they need somewhere to live.
I also don’t give a shit about coal miners because they represent a statistically insignificant amount of the population (globally). I don’t care if their grand daddy pulled fossilised dead animals out of a fucking mountain. My great grand kids don’t need to die from climate change to preserve that useless tradition among many others. That’s of course saying nothing of the fact that, under the right political structure, those miners could be paid to get re-trained in clean energy jobs.
You’re part of the problem.
Vikash B MCourtney 51m ago
A point which you are not considering that, there is almost nothing we can do, that will suddenly reverse this terrible damage we have been doing the past few centuries.
No single convention like this can guarantee a significant reduction in temperatures, within a century.
But, we have to start somewhere, we can’t keep waiting around for some magical solution that may never arrive.
MCourtney BigL64 40m ago
Read the article. The reason that the Paris Accords were rejected was economic. And the Trump administration is in line with mainstream science when it claims that they have virtually no impact on the climate.
You don’t care about the poor. I do. We will disagree.
I see you as part of the problem. Bourgeois, callous elitists who think “that minority is irrelevant. Me and my progeny are all that matters”.
You are wrong.
After all, if clean energy was cheaper than coal there would be the money and the will to retrain those miners. It would happen if that was where the wealth comes from. But you and China know it isn’t. That money isn’t there.
MCourtney Vikash B 33m ago
That defeatist argument has two obvious responses:
1) Do something that would work. Something big. Don’t waste everyone’s time (and jobs) on this policy. If you care about the climate you should want something that would work.
Or my preferred policy:
2) Just adapt. It’s cheaper. It’s future-proof. It naturally leads to the richer, technologically advanced countries doing the work and the poorer ones getting the benefits. It prevents over-spend if the climate sensitivity estimates keep falling. It releases resources today for today’s problems.
Why should the third world have their development delayed for more expensive energy? Dead children don’t have grandkids anyway.

Reply to  M Courtney
June 1, 2017 3:27 pm

Keep fighting the good fight. Bravo. Of course Guardian will eventually delete. But the archive is already here to prove their dishonest bias. Skeptics are winning, and every skirmish counts.

Goldrider
Reply to  M Courtney
June 1, 2017 4:51 pm

The Guardian has but one use; as a wrapper for fish.

H.R.
Reply to  Goldrider
June 2, 2017 8:22 am

True dat, Goldrider. “Studies have shown” [wink, wink] that canaries and budgies don’t want it for cage liner. Dead fish can’t object to the treatment.

Scarface
June 1, 2017 1:15 pm

From Holland: thank you very much, President Trump!!!

Robertvd
Reply to  Scarface
June 1, 2017 1:35 pm

North or South Holland

Mindert Eiting
Reply to  Scarface
June 1, 2017 1:56 pm

From the same country me too.

Djaja Ottenhof
Reply to  Scarface
June 1, 2017 2:47 pm

From Amsterdam, let me second that!

K. Kilty
June 1, 2017 1:17 pm

Wow. This is a sort of “split the baby” move. Suggesting renegotiating probably mollifies Ivanka, and some critics. But I would say this treaty is as good as most sincerely dead. By the way Musk has threatened a resignation of all his advisory posts in government. Trump simultaneously ended the Paris fraud, and improved these advisory groups!

Reply to  K. Kilty
June 1, 2017 2:02 pm

The agreement is totally dead until India and China agree to cuts, stop all new coal plants, and pay others in the third world to assist them in the agreement. Since this is never going to happen, the agreement is permanently dead, while putting the blame on them, where it belongs. Being in an agreement while doing nothing is an agreement of fools.

Tom Higley
June 1, 2017 1:17 pm

I really had my doubts this past week that he would stick to his promise. I, like most everybody else who has posted before me, could not be happier! Finally some sanity! Can’t wait to see the spin from the MSM this evening and tomorrow. They will all be predicting that we will soon be dying in rising boiling oceans.
Trump for President!!! oh, wait, he already is President.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Tom Higley
June 1, 2017 1:25 pm

No – you were right – Trump, 2020!

Goldrider
Reply to  Tom Higley
June 1, 2017 1:28 pm

Trump for 2020!

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Goldrider
June 1, 2017 5:14 pm

Yes, absolutely, let’s use a little foresight and not regret in hindsight!!

Edward Hurst
June 1, 2017 1:17 pm

Now is the time for UK decision makers to sit up and pay attention to GWPF.

Butch
June 1, 2017 1:19 pm

Liberal socialists heads are now exploding world wide !!

Wim Röst
June 1, 2017 1:19 pm

Congratulations to Anthony and to all those who have put so many years the truth about climate on the first place! Thank you all!

Michael Fabing
June 1, 2017 1:19 pm

Climatus interruptus.

Frank Lansner
June 1, 2017 1:20 pm

The Chinese at a meeting in EU says that they will tick to their commitments. Is that a joke? What commitments? Werent they allowed to just continue increaring CO2 emissions?? Until 2030? Oh, but China will stay on their commitments. Good for you China.

Reply to  Frank Lansner
June 1, 2017 1:27 pm

I will gladly pay you in 30 years for a hamburger today.
Scott

rwoollaston
Reply to  Frank Lansner
June 1, 2017 1:36 pm

As a developing nation, one of their commitments is to receive billiions of dollars.

Reply to  Frank Lansner
June 1, 2017 2:00 pm

China is going to stick to their agreement, despite the stress, to infinitely increase CO2 until all current EU administrations are not in power, and the next ones forget the agreement. China is in fact religious. You can hear the “amen.”

JohnWho
June 1, 2017 1:23 pm

The lunatics are no longer in charge of the asylum!

Non Nomen
Reply to  JohnWho
June 1, 2017 1:40 pm

Unfortunately, they remain lunatics.

Goldrider
Reply to  Non Nomen
June 1, 2017 4:52 pm

Maybe we can drop a house on them, and watch their feet curl up. Actually, that sounds like the cover of tomorrow morning’s New York Post . . . 😉

Butch
June 1, 2017 1:23 pm

“Following President Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Paris climate agreement, the Dow, S&P and Nasdaq closed at record highs. ” ..
http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2017/06/01/wall-street-hits-record-highs-as-economy-seen-accelerating.html

June 1, 2017 1:26 pm

I’m concerned that Trudeau will double our commitment now that you guys officially left…

Non Nomen
Reply to  Jeff in Calgary
June 1, 2017 1:39 pm

That will ruin his economy twice as fast as now and put an end to his regime as Beau of Ottawa faster.

Reply to  Jeff in Calgary
June 1, 2017 5:32 pm

Trudeau is a follower, not a leader. So, who does he follow? Seems to me, he has to follow Trump given that our economies are completely intertwined. But maybe he can hold out for three years … but if he does, he’ll just be a paragraph in the history books.

mrmethane
Reply to  Wayne Delbeke
June 1, 2017 7:18 pm

Wayne, unfortunately Justin responds to public opinion when it agrees with his life-guide, Gerald Butthurts. Triple whammy Carbon tax, and in BC, the giggling coalition mumble about a 4 cent/km driving tax to replace bridge tolls. That’s 40c/l in my car, 80 for a more economical chariot. Weaver may tip the scales if they
bring in proportional rep – the prospect of 15 or 20 seats after a snap election looms large.

June 1, 2017 1:26 pm

A colorful version of heads exploding courtesy of the Kingsman movie. Cheers –
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNJzrvtnoQE&w=854&h=480%5D

Chimp
Reply to  agimarc
June 1, 2017 1:33 pm

Antiglobalism with a vengeance.

commieBob
June 1, 2017 1:27 pm

I am deeply disturbed that Trump and Pruitt are both giving lip service to the carbon footprint. Trump boasted about how much America had reduced its CO2 emissions.
They aren’t calling CAGW a hoax.

heysuess
Reply to  commieBob
June 1, 2017 1:34 pm

Well, okay, but it has become axiomatic with scientists who are in the habit of telling the truth – how odd! – the good guys, that they/we/none of us simply do not know how much our carbon dioxide impacts weathery stuff. And that is often combined, in the same pronouncement, with their certainty that industrial and agricultural emissions have *some* effect. So let’s cut the president and his people some slack. This is some very heavy lifting they are doing, and doing it well.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  commieBob
June 1, 2017 1:35 pm

Worry knot. It doesn’t matter. The Paris Accord only pretended to be about science, and about “climate change”. Trump saw through that, and struck at its heart. It was about bringing the Western economies down, and most especially, the American economy. Part and parcel of the climate hoax is that it is based on science. Ignoring the pseudoscience in a way just makes it irrelevant, which it is.

JohnWho
Reply to  commieBob
June 1, 2017 1:40 pm

Or, one could say that they are using the CAGW’s concepts to show that the US is already doing better than other countries at the CAGW “game”.

Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)
Reply to  commieBob
June 1, 2017 2:25 pm

IMHO, no one needs to call CAGW a “hoax”. In my view, this particular label may have contributed more to the arsenal of those who conduct the recruitment of the non-informed – by appealing to green-tainted idealism or taking advantage of simple, lazy follow-the-green-brick-road ignorance.
That being said – and speaking of those whose pronouncements are of the idealistic and/or ignorant kind – I very much regret that we in Canada may have to wait a few years before we have leadership that is not totally tainted by GreenDreams of the utterly useless and very expensive kind.
Particularly here in beautiful BC, where we are about to be subjected to the oh-so-dedicated dictatorial whims of former IPCC-nik Andrew <climate change is a barrage of intergalactic ballistic missiles> Weaver, as he wields his new-found power (of 3 green bodies) in the provincial legislature 🙁

commieBob
Reply to  Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)
June 1, 2017 3:11 pm

… in beautiful BC …

I would give even odds that Trudeau will be able to protect the pipeline in spite of everything the NDP and Greens can do.
After 2008, the oil sands and Fort McMoney are the only thing that kept the Canadian economy from tanking along with the rest of the world.

vigilantfish
Reply to  Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)
June 1, 2017 6:31 pm

Condolences from a fellow suffering Canadian!

Mario Lento
Reply to  commieBob
June 1, 2017 5:50 pm

I have read your posts and love them. The only way to win or get points politically is to speak to the entire country. Politics should only be partisan when needed. In this case, I get queezy too. Consider that what he said was (in the context of what people think a carbon footprint is) 100% accurate. In that sense, the so called footprint was reduced.
If he’d started saying that the whole meme of “climate change” is disingenuous and dangerous based on the remedy and the mis-belief of consequences attached to it, he would have lost half of America. So this very significant baby step, of doing the right thing, and attaching many good reasons to leave the Paris Accord, takes us in a wonderful direction.
In any case, I do hope he will eventually move closer to saying that it is certain, that “the meme of climate change” is a hoax. To believe that so called “climate change”, means increased CO2 caused the climate to get more extreme, is patently false and has and can be illustrated by facts, not news headlines.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Mario Lento
June 1, 2017 7:28 pm

Mario,
As someone who has been writing today along the same lines as cBob, I wanted to tell you that you (and others with similar takes on this) have helped me be a bit less upset about the “begin negotiations to re-enter” (MAJOR bummer for me). Boy, that really upset me!!!
Thank you for your comment…
Grateful for another wonderful WUWT encourager,
Janice

Reply to  commieBob
June 1, 2017 7:54 pm

It’s the 4d chess Trump game. What is there to negotiate if the basic premise of CO2 warming is fraud? It is in fact.
Longer term we’ll all regret not laying out the skeptic science case at this key moment. How can you go after the green subsidies if you buy into the fake virtue of CO2 reduction?

heysuess
June 1, 2017 1:27 pm

I’ve popped a favorite brew and I am currently fixated on the carbon dioxide – all those bubbles!! – escaping into the atmosphere, free as birds, without penalty or guilt. What a blessed day.

Bruce Cobb
June 1, 2017 1:27 pm

Today, we celebrate. Tomorrow we gloat.

June 1, 2017 1:28 pm

… and suddenly the sky darkened, the tides surged, a fire cloud spewed forth, and, in the blink of an eye, the world was wiped out by an asteroid. … 06-01-2017
Crap! … just when something good happened. Well, I guess we should have placed our attention, efforts and money on something else. Oh well, better luck next time, … in another five billion years or so, when it all starts over again.

Reply to  Robert Kernodle
June 1, 2017 1:29 pm

OR
Hell just froze over.

u.k.(us)
June 1, 2017 1:28 pm

What else is there to say:

vukcevic
June 1, 2017 1:29 pm

Elon Musk @elonmusk
“Am departing presidential councils. Climate change is real. Leaving Paris is not good for America or the world.”
I’m sure you will not be missed.

Brad
Reply to  vukcevic
June 1, 2017 1:36 pm

Maybe he should stop taking the government’s (peoples’) money to keep his crappy business afloat.

Reply to  vukcevic
June 1, 2017 1:37 pm

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, subsidy farmer.

J Mac
Reply to  vukcevic
June 1, 2017 1:45 pm

Ahhhh…. the squeals of another departing hog, as his grubbing snout confirms there is no more taxpayer slop in his trough.
Music to my ears!!!

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  J Mac
June 1, 2017 1:56 pm

Elon, showing his true colors. And they are not red, white, or blue.

Chris
Reply to  J Mac
June 1, 2017 7:07 pm

“Elon, showing his true colors. And they are not red, white, or blue.”
Elon Musk has created 35,000 good paying jobs in the US, plus even more indirect jobs. How many jobs have you created, Bruce?

Reply to  Chris
June 2, 2017 11:28 am

How much Tax payer money went to create those jobs? With $9 billion (or even $5billion), I am sure anyone can create a slew of jobs.
So how much profit did he make over the past 5 years?

Chris
Reply to  J Mac
June 2, 2017 12:53 pm

Phljourndan, Amazon hasn’t made a profit of sorts in 20 years, their market cap is 350B. Try to keep up.

Reply to  Chris
June 2, 2017 2:29 pm

“of sorts” – You have no clue about business do you? Let me give you the short version.
no profits = no taxes.
But Bezos is one of the richest men on the world. And guess what? No government loans OR subsidies.
Try to keep up.

Chris
Reply to  J Mac
June 3, 2017 4:18 am

Philjourdan – I worked for Fortune 100 companies for 20 years, then raised millions in venture capital for startups, and helped start two companies. What have you done, besides posting on WUWT dozens of times per day?
As far as your Amazon versus Elon Musk point, you said: “of sorts” – You have no clue about business do you? Let me give you the short version.”
I said “of sorts” meaning that Amazon generally eked out a very small profit – numbers like $500M in profit on $30B in sales for a quarter, or 1.6% of sales. I thought you would understand that, but I clearly overestimated your abilities. My bad.
You then said:”But Bezos is one of the richest men on the world. And guess what? No government loans OR subsidies.”
Wrong, subsidies alone total $1.2B and counting.https://www.bna.com/amazon-close-breaking-n57982085432/ And of course that doesn’t include the billions in sales tax that Amazon refused to pay states for years, and fought in the courts.http://www.alternet.org/corporate-accountability-and-workplace/amazons-big-assist-government Not paying the taxes they owed is to a large degree the reason Amazon has been able to take market share and grow rapidly.

Reply to  Chris
June 6, 2017 4:58 am

So you failed math as well. NOt surprising. Did I ask you what you did?
No. I do not care. But I do know one thing for sure. You did not do what you claim you did. Since you boasted about accomplishments not asked for nor wanted, they are typically false. Even if true, they mean nothing.
And you can keep your “of sorts” since you still have no clue what you are talking about. Just answer the simple question: How much in government loans did Amazon get?
And you are lying. Show me any company (not 1000, not even 10, ONE) that pays more in taxes than it is legally required to do so. Just one. Anyone.
You cannot, because A) you have no clue what you are talking about, and B) there are none. Amazon did not pay taxes it was not required to pay. And guess what else? Sales taxes are paid by the CUSTOMERS. The companies merely collect it for the government (usually getting a 3/4 of a cent fee for doing so). Since Amazon was not legally required to collect the taxes, and since Amazon is not liable for ANY sales taxes (the consumer is), you are lying and have no clue what you are talking about,.
Your ignorance and arrogance is your down fall. Had you actually done what you claimed, you would know these things. As you do not, you are a very bad liar, with delusions of Walter Mitty.
Stop lying and making impotent boasts.

Ernest Bush
Reply to  vukcevic
June 1, 2017 1:59 pm

Now he can get on with colonizing Mars. There are a lot of people whot could be sent to help.

Goldrider
Reply to  vukcevic
June 1, 2017 4:55 pm

I’d be dumpin’ his stock real fast right about now . . .

stan stendera
Reply to  vukcevic
June 1, 2017 5:57 pm

+1000

Chimp
Reply to  vukcevic
June 1, 2017 6:03 pm

TSLA closed down today, while the indeces were making record highs. But not by as much as it was down earlier. Volume however was higher than average.

June 1, 2017 1:31 pm

“No responsible leader can put the workers and the people of their country at this debilitating and tremendous disadvantage.”
I wonder when the ‘politicians’ in Sweden will realize this …? In the end, they are very expensive well fare absorbers, not realizing they are not just ‘cutting the branch they sit on’, but the complete tree …

Lance Wallace
June 1, 2017 1:31 pm

Anthony, this is your day too! You and Jo Nova are the last ones standing, following the great work of Climate Audit and Bishop Hill. Oh and of course Climate Etc.
We need to look ahead. Next is the UNFCCC. Can get out of that easier and quicker than Paris.
And then a biggie, the Endangerment Finding. For some reason, Scottt Pruitt has not felt com