AOC on Green New Deal: It ‘Costs $0 If Passed’

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Chris White Tech Reporter May 14, 2020 5:55 PM ET

Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ripped one of her critics Thursday for suggesting the Green New Deal would cost Americans a fortune and require the government to confiscate every penny from billionaire and multimillionaires.

Ocasio-Cortez scolded conservative columnist Jonah Goldberg Thursday for saying in a tweet that taking every dollar from the likes of Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos and others would not “cover a fraction of your Green New Deal fantasy.”

“Totally get it if you’ve never bothered to read the legislation you’re commenting so authoritatively on,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote in reply before noting that the GND is a “non-binding resolution of values” and “costs us $0 if passed.” (RELATED: Report: Green New Deal Will Impose A $75,000 Per Year Cost On Swing-State Households)

Ocasio-Cortez’s signature legislation calls for several progressive proposals, including moving the United States off of fossil fuels within a decade, providing universal health care, basic income programs and job guarantees, as well as a slew of other ambitious plans. The GND would cost $0 if it remained a non-binding resolution and was not coupled with legislation satisfying the deal’s agenda.

CEI, a conservative-leaning think tank, incorporated the costs of electricity production within the first year after Ocasio-Cortez’s deal’s implementation and the costs of a one-time upgrade to buildings and vehicles. They also determined how the plan’s mandate would increase the cost of logistics in a modern American economy.

95 thoughts on “AOC on Green New Deal: It ‘Costs $0 If Passed’

  1. The only legislation that “Costs $0 (nothing)” is legislation that “Does Nothing” If AOC’s GND truly costs nothing then it really accomplishes nothing and is therefore unnecessary

    • Most legislation that “does nothing” still requires an army of bureaucrats to administer it and is generally very expensive.

      So “do nothing” legislation is infinitely expensive in terms of cost to value delivered as it violates the “thou shalt not divide by zero” rule.

        • For every hour they spend on non binding resolutions a corresponding amount should be should be subtracted from next years congressional budget for staff.

    • She’ll just claim it “was a joke”, and anyone who believed her has the intelligence of a sea-sponge. That’s her boilerplate response approximately 2 weeks after the fact.

    • If AOC thinks the GND will cost $0, simply write into the legislation

      “For every dollar above the $0 cost, AOC will personally reimburse those affected”

      And make sure the GND is independently audited.

    • I’ve seen a video of AOC singing:

      I like to be in America,
      $174,000 a year for me in America.
      Everything free in America !

    • Don’t dis bartenders, they have a hard job and usually need some form of accreditation to hold down a job to mix drinks. And sorry, obviously you haven’t listened to the people elected as Greens, Dippers, or Liberals in Canada…many of whom are better qualified to be members of Parliament than they are to be bartenders. Here in Ontario a bartender has to at least pass some form of food safety training, and know how to mix difficult drinks…to get into Parliament all you have to be is a living, breathing citizen (and just look at many of Justin’s Ministers if you don’t believe me).

        • ~60% of canadians identify as neurologically delayed, sorry, i meant Progressive.
          Like California but colder

        • Only about a 1/3 voted for the bed-wetting Liberals, but many voted for the Dippers (NDP), the Bloc Québécois and the Greens (with envy). So even though the Torys got a higher vote count, it was in the west (which does not count due to the gerrymander to mainain a higher number of seats in some places, like PEI and Québéc), they failed to get more seats than the rest, likely due to their pasty leader. Due to the magic of Parliamentary practice, the Bloc supports most of what Justin does (which is mostly walking down steps once a day and throwing our money around) and in effect give control by majority…the Bloc supports the Clown Prince of Canada because they are the same sorts of mercantilists as the wetters, so they prop up the Liberals while belittling the rest of Canada. The media is mostly lefty, with many warmunists and failed Dippers/Greens in their ranks, and are lick-spittling their way to subsidy from the Feds…most of the media hate the Torys and use comparisons to the USA to scare the gulible. Does that explain it?

  2. Wow, what a bloody little idiot. 1stly, if it is a non-binding resolution and nothing is done…then why bother with it at all? But if they do it as written it has been estimated to cost 96 trillion dollars US…which is about four times the US GDP and more cash than on planet Earth.
    Initially she proposed no aircraft travel in the Green Raw Deal, and when Hawaii kicked up a stink, she said, oh don’t worry about that, we will use “Sky Trains.” I kid you not. I believe they have left that part and several other of the more insane parts out of the latest version….I suppose we could call that progress, what this bloody little idiot is asking for effectively, is a blank cheque.

    • Don’t underestimate her backers.
      It would be employed similar to the *non-binding* Paris Agreement, they — meaning those behind the good lady — are not seriously expecting the GND ever to be implemented.
      The GND is merely a Fabian-style tactic or strategy intended to be used as a tool or weapon in order to keep the political opposition continually on the defensive.

      • ‘Don’t underestimate her backers.’

        Few things scare me more than stupid people in large groups.

    • It is conceivable that AOC said something about “Sky Trains.” However I searched fairly extensively and couldn’t find it. If she had said something that ridiculous, there should be reports all over the Internet.

    • A few trillion here and a few there and soon your talking real money. The distance from earth to the sun is 15 trillion centimeters. A US dollar is approximately 15cm long, so it would take a trillion bucks end to end to reach the sun. Or if we’re talking O’s 96 trillion then a trillion 100 buck notes would be earth- sun if you want a handy visualization.

  3. The “Green” part of her deal is only the warm-fuzzy camouflage. Here’s what lurks beneath:

    Verbatim quote from her original pitch:

    Build on FDR’s second bill of rights by guaranteeing:
    A job with a family-sustaining wage, family and medical leave, vacations, and retirement security
    High-quality education, including higher education and trade schools
    Clean air and water and access to nature
    Healthy food
    High-quality health care
    Safe, affordable, adequate housing
    Economic environment free of monopolies
    Economic security for all who are unable or unwilling to work

    That’s where the real Trillions will go.

    Well, she already got the paid vacations for everyone! “by guaranteeing” you can make more by being “unwilling” to work than not. Guaranteed paid vacation.

    Note: the “access to nature” might have to be crossed out.
    Note: “free of monopolies?” Except for one, right?

    • John,
      that list describes most european countries as well as most other advanced industrial countries round the world. It is merely catching up to what is possible in counties like Germany, Sweden, Finland etc.

      • Not even close ,and certainly when it comes to getting them for free .
        Plenty of poor can be found in every country Geto’s exist is lots of cities Paris has some serious ones , lots of unemployed, lots of health issues etc even in Germany, Sweden, Finland

      • ‘that list describes most european countries including Sweden…..’.

        No it doesn’t! Swedish industry has been privatised and Denmark is looking to cut taxes, the UK’s transport system, heavily subsidised is a mess, Germany has good education, but France and virtually the rest of Europe succumbed to romantics long ago. House prices are through the roof in the UK. The health system is good in France, but nowhere near perfect and its cost helps explain the ease of buying houses in the bankrupt country side. As for the NHS…….

        The idea that the US food exclusively is ‘bad for you’ or that its air is unclean, or that its house prices are uniquely high is nonsense, and has no supporting evidence when compared to the varying conditions in Europe. For a start, it is belied by the longevity stats, though indeed too much sugar is eaten. Will this be taxed under AOC?

        In all these countries, but especially those who have been bankrupted by taxation, such as France, the corporations rule supreme. Called upon to face the biggest tax bills, they drive out small enterprise and competition. AOC, like Obama before her, will be forced into their arms to avoid economic catastrophe. Or perhaps not! Understanding complexity is not the strong point of Baristas.

        • I would strongly disagree that the health system is good in France. It’s as much of a disaster as the rest of Europe. If you love there, pray that the worst that will happen to you is a broken arm.

          • Well, it’s better than the NHS at any rate. I’ve been treated in both. The difference in my experience is that doctors in France are encouraged to cure you, whereas in GB they are employed as gatekeepeers. The NHS designers didn’t understand the implications of ‘infinite elasticity of demand’, ie, someone has to choke it off somehow.

      • Yes, the same as North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, etc. Neo-Marxism is the same as Marxism; the same idea: start your revolution in the most developed countries, and spread it all over the world.

      • Izaak,

        Notice that AOC wants this agenda guaranteed as a right. By law.

        To guarantee delivery of property or service as a right means you it will be extracted by force from someone else. That is not the United States – we guarantee the right to pursue happiness and property, not to have it supplied by force from another person.

        As others have commented, Europe etc is backing away from its former collectivist promises. If the USA attempts to “catch up” to social democratic collectivism any farther than what is already in place, it will be an atrocity, not an advance.

    • “High-quality education, including higher education and trade schools”

      Is this they same “high quality” education that gave us climate science with nature tricks and AOC herself with an economics degree?

  4. We are living the GND in real time.
    I prefer the capitalist way before COVID 19. I’m willing to take my chances.
    GND is COVID 19 on steroids.

    • Everyone goes on a solar powered ventilator. Pretty soon one’s emissions drop to zero.

  5. Of course if it costs her nothing to spend and/or waste everyone else’s money, then it costs nothing. It’s a point of view thing. And there is only one point of view important enough to matter.

  6. Just think, she graduated with a masters in economics.

    BU apparently gives those away for money.

    • No no, she was a bartender and she grew up cleaning the toilets of rich people in New Jersey…or something.

  7. Ms Ocasio-Cortez is just too easy a target to bother with. In that respect, she’s like President Trump. It really is freaky odd that Americans are capable of electing people who are so clearly inept.

    I know only one man who is a serious supporter of Donald Trump. It’s not that he likes Mr. Trump all that much as that he dislikes the people who dislike Trump. Mr. Trump is kind of refreshing, in a way, in that he doesn’t bother to pretend that he’s a decent man. This is, perversely, a relief from Justin Trudeau, whose every utterance is designed to remind you of his wonderful moral superiority. The kind of morality that Mr. Trudeau is so proud of is much easier to practice if you have lots of privileges already. Donald Trump could afford to be a woke, feminist saint too, but he can’t summon the hypocrisy he’d need to do that. Many people respond to that.

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez seems to be a product of the indoctrination in liberal causes that is now standard in American universities. I’m sure she’s sincere, but she just doesn’t care about telling the truth.

    • Ian Coleman, President Trump and Representative Ocasio-Cortez are not at all alike. Donald Trump, a billionaire and author of one of the best-selling business books of all time, ran for the position of President because he thought he could fix the economy. He won, and his standard of living went down, his stress went up, his family was verbally and visciously attacked, and yet he built the strongest economy the world has ever known. Why is the exchange rate 1.40 Canadian to 1.00 US dollar? Why do Canadians support the Paris accord when they live where the sun don’t shine?

      • Whatever economic gains made by Trump are now gone many times over. Recovery will be slow and painful and it’s not even certain when a bottom will be reached. This country is in trouble. Trump is in trouble as a result of this.

        Indeed, the world is in trouble. China is doing everything it can to use the crisis to weaken its enemies and competitors. Democrats are doing everything in their power to use the crisis to implement leftist policies and to harm Trump. Democrats risk being discovered doing more harm than good, but if they presented a decent candidate other than Biden, Trump would have no chance.

        • Yea, Scissor, but can you imagine A. starting the pandemic at a lower economic condition, and B. not having Trump to re-energize the economy? Democrats not only are bad at economic advancement, they deliberatly want to cripple the economy, both by advancing zero carbon emissions ideas and converting to socialism. Give me Trump, good economy, and about 1,000 ppm plant food in the atmosphere, thank you. PS, wait for the Durham report!

          • Someone said here back that democrats would burn down the house to rule over its ashes.

          • Precisely! The old “rule in hell rather than serve in heaven” saw writ large. The more people who suffer the happier Democrats are.

    • Nah. Throw enough money at it and we’ll be able to say, “Beam me to Hawaii, Scotty.”

      That, or we can just purchase off-the-shelf Stargates from the Venusians.

      N.B., my proposals are just as viable as AOC’s and would have wider application than trains of any sort.

      And, it has been reported that unnamed senior officials have said the Venusians have already spent several billion dollars lobbying Congress to buy Venusian Stargates. Apparently, AOC is not getting her share as she keeps going on about trains.

  8. Well….picking my jaw from off the ground….all I can say is……….umm…..nope – I can’t say a thing, to this tripe

    • David Hood
      May 15, 2020 at 12:21 am

      Yes it is a tripe, but still some can be said about it, I think.

      The spirit of legislation is that the product is binding by its main core meaning, even when sometimes within the clause of temporary… or for the initial stage non binding.

      A bill is non binding either when it is nonsensical or when it stands as a contradiction to other existing applicable laws or to the constitution of the Land…
      aka such bills can not pass into law,
      therefor regarded as with no merit and wrong, even as social moral guides or incentives.

      Laws are binding.
      Wrong laws, or/and wrong application of laws consist as with unnecessary high cost damages to society.

      I think maybe AOC this time, is maybe only mocking (rightfully so) her fellow compatriots in consideration of COVID-19 imprisonment… just maybe.

      cheers

      cheers

  9. Surely AOC and her ‘green friends’ should be crowing with the huge reduction in GHGs that the World should be witnessing now that we are seven to eight weeks into a lockdown with only a miniscule number of aeroplanes and cars travelling on a daily basis (saving all those nasty GHGs)?? Strangely the readings at:

    https://www.co2.earth/co2-records

    still show an increase(?) How or why is this happening when we are told by the likes of Professor Greta that these emissions are going to kill us all, and she, to prove a point, refused to fly to the USA and sailed the Atlantic instead? I need to go and have a lie down as I am now so confused but I am sure AOC, or her friends, will give me a suitable answer to pacify my over-worked little brain!!

  10. She says you will have the benefit of an agency to collect the Danegeld from anyone with money. Now what would that be like I wonder and just guess the sort of people who would rush to join it. Half of Europe lived under that sort of regime for half a century and couldn’t wait to kick it into touch at the first opportunity. Welcome to the Stasi , UB, NKVD, etc MK2
    Mind you I like the kind of economics that says anything you do costs nothing in reality, Unfortunately I also think you’d have to be bat shit crazy to believe such nonsense.

  11. Doesn’t she have any better to do with her time [which actually time granted to her from constituents].
    I sure her constituents could wonder about all people in nursing homes which were exposed the china virus, due to really bonehead governmental policies.
    When she was doodling with the no sense schemes, her constituents were getting sick and dying.

    • All the Democrats really have going for them is the Leftwing Meida pushes the Democrat propganda relentlessly.

      If the Democrats didn’t have the Majority of the Media on their side, pumping up the Democrats and tearing down the Republicans, then they wouldn’t have anything.

  12. By now you all should have realized that the sums adding up does not matter. They just hate us, the west, capitalism. To the delusional fools that believe being kind will put food on your table, it is inspirational message of love and peace. The left wing media will make out it is some how revolutionary. IN power it will of course fail but the damage they do they will blame on you.

    Watched her at she suggested people in her constituency do not go back to work. I started thing how a city like New York, an agricultural desert, would fare if the farmers only grew food for their families, The truckers in the mid west sat at home. How long before the shelves are empty. Millions live a city life because millions outside of cities grow their food they eat.

    • No problem. Farmers take off a year to shelter in place and AOC’s wishes come true.

  13. You have just seen the kind of cost that social control brings. Now scale that up. Complete destruction of the economy.

    Look at your VA, when jobs are guaranteed, people stop trying. Only the risk of being sacked makes people work hard, and if we dont work hard we dont achieve anything. We end up like some backwards country with a dead economy and no innovation, like the middle east, or Cuba.

    Believe me, as a Brit, we are on the same page as you. We hate big government, loss of freedom, loss of choice. This GND is Marxism, pure and simple. And we know how that works out.

  14. She is correct, she won’t pay a penny for any of it. She is also unwilling to sacrifice herself for it, either. No morals, no courage, no basic intelligence.

  15. “Drinks are on the House”.
    Costs you nothing.
    The only thing is that the Government can not give you anything.
    It can only give you what it has taken away from somebody else.
    If Green Energy is free, why is electricity in California so expensive?
    On the world stage, if China is using coal and we are using Green Energy (no such thing – Green Energy needs to be backed up by Brown Energy.), they will have a massive comparative advantage.

  16. Our world truly has gone nuts when idiots like AOC and a teenaged girl have any influence in the world.

  17. Chase the rich, only the poor remain.

    What happened when COVID hysteria grounded most scheduled flights?

    The private bizjet / charter sector boomed and still struggles to satisfy the requests in a demand / offer driven price explosion.

    The massive decrease of “belly cargo”, i.e. freight hauled on scheduled line flights increased, sometimes as much as tenfold, the prices of cargo.

    Result, those who can afford to be mobile are mobile and benefit from goods others can no longer afford.

    Those inherently targeted by the GND will simply jet-off the premises leaving delusional voters to deal with the resulting mess.

  18. We’d better get started building out the Clean energy supply.

    In 2030, Electricity, Ground Transportation, Aviation, Industrial, Agricultural, Heating (and a few others) will eat up ~100 Quads of energy (~30 million GWh).

    A 1 GWe Nuclear Plant churns out at best (i.e. never) 8700 GWh annually. So about 3500 nuclear plants will be needed by 2030.

    Coincidentally, there are ~3500 days between now and 2030, so we only have to build 1 nuclear plant every day between now and then.

    The aviation industry will require a massive liquid synthetic fuels industry and 2/3 of the current ground transportation fleet and agricultural infrastructure (tractors) that will still be in operation in 2030 will also require the (currently non-existent) liquid synthetic fuels.

    Imagining a perfect future Energy utopia sure is fun. But if you actually believe eliminating petroleum products could ever happen in a decade you have the mental capacity of a fuzzy kitten.

  19. Don’t let J. Goldberg’s deceptive tweet fool you. Starting in 2017, he has absolutely betrayed the cause of conservatism and is openly campaigning for the other side. His little poke at AOC is sickeningly phony, because he is firmly in the ACGW alarmist camp.

  20. I hope nobody other than the mindless sycophants pay attention to this AOC other than for comedy relief.

  21. Yeah, I remember the famous lie of the “Energiewende” from the Green party in Germany. “It costs only one scoop of ice a month”.
    Now they have the highest electricity prices and the highest income tax rate of the planet. And next year a special carbon tax will be added.

  22. She’s dumber than a rock, and an opportunistic, unabashed liar, and race-baiter, but at least she’s really conceited and arrogant about it.

    • Snider
      How dare you insult rocks — at least they are smart enough to keep quiet.

      AOC is a dingbat and blabbermouth.

      The current generation’s version of Bernie Sanders, with better hair.

      • I still say we should sell her to Mohammed bin Salman, I’m sure he would happily pay $5000. Win/Win!

  23. It’s not just her. There is Washington’s Inslee.

    https://mynorthwest.com/1875112/dori-inslee-devastated-economy-climate-agenda/

    “In a disgustingly tone-deaf interview on Bernie Sanders’ website, Inslee told the Bernie-bros, “this has always been an economic opportunity … we should not be intimidated by people who say you should not use this COVID crisis to peddle a solution to climate change … we can’t use COVID as an excuse for inaction on climate change … they’re both so similar … based on an understanding of science.”

    • Please! I am forced to observe this low science socialist democrat everyday, here in the Left Wing Lock Down of Washington state. He often refers to ‘science’ and ‘data’, but never explicitly provides references to either. He wears the ‘Science/Data’ sash as a publicity banner, sans any substance to back it up. He parrots the buzz words “Follow the science, braaawwk!”, with less understanding than a simple parrot and no disclosure of it. And more than half of Washington state voted for this low information, substance free propagandist. Ugh!

  24. When asked how do we pay for everything Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wants her response is – “Print more money. What’s hard about that?”

    • Hate to be a Debbie Downer, I have to correct your spelling, her name is Accusatory Occasional-Cortex. Don’t want to hurt her feelings, since feelings is all she’s got.

  25. For the last few decades, in pursuit of the GND for Califirnias, residents have been bombarded with bizarre laws and regulations from our one-party leaders that have gotten CA into the #1 position of having the highest costs for of labor, electricity, and fuels. California’s Forecasted Budget Deficit Decades in the Making -the COVID-19 carnage on the job market has exposed decades of poor planning

    o Labor: Among the highest minimum wages
    o Electricity: Residents are already paying 50% more than the national average, and those cost will increase s CA shuts down nuclear and natural gas plants, to import more expensive electricity from other states.
    o Fuels: Californians are already paying almost $1.00 more than the national average and is the only state in contiguous America that imports MOST (58%) of its crude oil needs from foreign countries at a cost of $60 million every day. Newsom is doing everything possible to INCREASE those imports and INCREASE the outflow of moneys to foreign countries.

    Our Governor with a 70% approval rating is doing everything possible to continually INCREASE, yes INCREASE, highest costs of labor, electricity, and fuels.
    Maybe the election or Republican of Mike Garcia to fill the seat vacated by Democrat Katie Hill is a reflection of our CA residents “seeing” what the one-party state has done to the economy!

    Newsom was the San Francisco Mayor for 8 years. In 2003, Newsom was elected the 42nd Mayor of San Francisco, becoming the city’s youngest mayor in a century. Newsom was re-elected in 2007 with 72 percent of the vote. This article about those saying Chao to the City may be a preview for the outlook for the entire state.
    Our residents continue to re-elect the same “leaders”, so buckle up for the nosedive in the economy!

  26. ‘Ocasio-Cortez wrote in reply before noting that the GND is a “non-binding resolution of values” and “costs us $0 if passed.”’

    As Khris Kristofferson and Janis Joplin sang in the song Bobby McGee:
    “Nothin’ ain’t worth nothin’, but it’s free.”

    Makes more sense than AOC.

  27. Why passing a non-binding proposal into law? It just lends credibility to it hoping to shirk scrutiny and had questions. Plus, it also makes up the fiction that lawmakers actually do something that could be passed off as work. The GND is a plot to ruin America – may light shine onto it as it deserves.

  28. “job guarantees,” Does that mean people on welfare will have to get a job?

  29. AOC: “If only there were some public fund billionaires could pay into along with everyone else that helps fund our infrastructure, hospitals and public systems all at once.”
    AOC, I’ve got news for you – there IS such a fund, and it’s called TAX. And you are a member of the mechanism that sets the tax levels for EVERYONE. All you have to do is understand and work with the system!

    • That is asking a lot, she is barely aware of her own existence, outside of all the good “stuff” she can score now.

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