This is a research article published as information for health care professionals and public officials, and for an open peer review. It is not medical advice.
Summary
I reviewed the scientific literature on hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), azithromycin (AZ), and their use for COVID-19. My conclusions:
- HCQ-based treatments are effective in treating COVID-19, unless started too late.
- Studies, cited in opposition, have been misinterpreted, invalid, or worse.
- HCQ and AZ are some of the most tested and safest prescription drugs.
- Severe COVID-19 frequently causes cardiac effects, including heart arrhythmia. QTc prolonging drugs might amplify this tendency. Millions of people regularly take drugs having strong QTc prolongation effect, and neither FDA nor CDC bother to warn them. HCQ+AZ combination, probably has a mild QTc prolongation effect. Concerns over its negative effects, however minor, can be addressed by respecting contra-indications.
- Effectiveness of HCQ-based treatment for COVID-19 is hampered by conditions that are presented as precautions, delaying the onset of treatment. For examples, some states require that COVID-19 patients be treated with HCQ exclusively in hospital settings.
- The COVID-19 Treatment Panel of NIH evaded disclosure of the massive financial links of its members to Gilead Sciences, the manufacturer of a competing drug remdesivir. Among those who failed to disclose such links are 2 out of 3 of its co-chairs.
- Despite all the attempts by certain authorities to prevent COVID-19 treatment with HCQ and HCQ+AZ, both components are approved by FDA, and doctors can prescribe them for COVID-19.
Intro
Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) was accepted as a COVID-19 treatment by the medical community in the US and worldwide by early April. 67% of the US physicians said they would prescribe HCQ or chloroquine CQ for COVID-19 to a family member (Town Hall, 2020-04-08). An international poll of doctors rated HCQ the most effective coronavirus treatment (NY Post, 2020-04-02). On April 6, Peter Navarro told CNN that “Virtually Every COVID-19 Patient In New York Is Given Hydroxychloroquine.” This might explain decrease in COVID-19 deaths in the New York state after April 15. The time lag is because COVID-19 deaths happen on average 14 days after showing symptoms.
But on April 21, several perfectly coordinated events took place, attacking HCQ’s use for COVID-19 patients.
- The COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel of the National Institute of Health issued recommendations with negative-ambivalent stance regarding the use of HCQ as a COVID-19 treatment. This surprising stance was taken contrary to the ample evidence of the efficacy and safety of HCQ and despite absence evidence of its harm. The panel also strongly recommended against the use of hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin (AZ), the combination of choice among practitioners.
- On the same day, a paper (Magagnoli, 2020) was posted on a pre-print server medRxiv, insinuating that HCQ is not only ineffective, but even harmful. This not-yet peer reviewed paper, by unqualified authors with conflicts of interest, received wall-to-wall media coverage, as it if were a cancer cure. It used data from Veterans Administration hospitals, spicing its effects. The paper has shown to be somewhere between junk science and fraud.
- Rick Bright, a government official who was probably more responsible for the low level of preparedness to the epidemic than most others, and had been re-assigned to a lower position earlier, emerged as a “whistleblower.” He claimed he had been demoted for opposing hydroxychloroquine, the claim to be soon debunked by documents bearing his signature. The media also gave him a wall-to-wall coverage.
On April 24, the FDA struck its own blow, issuing a stern warning against use of HCQ for COVID-19 treatment.
While these warnings are not binding to doctors, they do produce a chilling effect. Consequently, either patients do not receive necessary treatment, or they receive it with a delay, sharper decreasing its effect. This allows detractors to question HCQ efficacy even more aggressively. Below, I review problems in the NIH COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines and other sources, used to wage anti-HCQ propaganda.
NIH Panel Guidelines
The relevant section of (COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel, 2020) is Potential Antiviral Drugs. The antiviral treatment recommendations (more accurately, failure to provide recommendations) include:
“Remdesivir
- There are insufficient clinical data to recommend either for or against the use of the investigational antiviral agent remdesivir for the treatment of COVID-19 (AIII).
Clinical Data to Date:
Only anecdotal data are available.“
“AIII” means a strong position based on expert opinion rather than on evidence.
“Chloroquine or Hydroxychloroquine
- There are insufficient clinical data to recommend either for or against using chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of COVID-19 (AIII).
- When chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine is used, clinicians should monitor the patient for adverse effects (AEs), especially prolonged QTc interval (AIII).
Clinical Data in COVID-19
The clinical data available to date on the use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 have been mostly from use in patients with mild, and in some cases, moderate disease; data on use of the drugs in patients with severe and critical COVID-19 are very limited.
[Follows is a description of some studies]“
Notice that CQ and HCQ are addressed together, although these are two different drugs, and HCQ is clearly superior to CQ both in efficiency and safety.
Also notice that the basic recommendation of “insufficient clinical data to recommend either for or against” is given to both HCQ and Remdesivir. However, the recommendation for HCQ goes further to state that when using HCQ, “clinicians should monitor the patient for adverse effects (AEs), especially prolonged QTc interval”. Practically, this means that HCQ should be used only in hospital settings. No such restrictions are set for Remdesivir, for which there is no clinical data available. It goes against all logic.
The demand to use HCQ only in hospital settings means:
- HCQ treatment will be delayed until a patient decides to be admitted to a hospital, thus lowering HCQ’s efficiency
- Hospitals will quickly become overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients
Then the Panel nixes HCQ+AZ:
“Hydroxychloroquine plus Azithromycin
- The COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel recommends against the use of hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in the context of a clinical trial (AIII).“
This drug combination is the most effective and widely used treatment for COVID-19, and the Panel recommends against it!
The Panel criticizes some studies of patients’ treatment with HCQ+AZ for the absence of a control group. Stephen McIntyre tweeted about this argument long before the Panel used it: “there’s a very large control group of COVID19 patients not receiving this drug combination: hospitals and morgues are full of them.”
There are only two studies, quoted by the Panel against HCQ+AZ, (Molina, 2020) and (Chorin, 2020). Both are misinterpreted by the Panel.
Molina et al.
Despite (Molina, 2020)’s angry tone and aggressiveness, it reports no results contradicting efficiency of HCQ or HCQ+AZ. The paper describes treatment of 11 hospitalized COVID-19 patients, five of which had cancer, one had AIDS, and almost all were in a bad shape: “at the time of treatment initiation, 10 of the 11 patients had a fever and received nasal oxygen therapy.” Using HCQ+AZ, 10 of the patients’ lives were saved. The article’s point of contention is that when they tested these patients, 5-6 days after the treatment initiation, they still found CoV2 RNA in 8 out of 10. Virus RNA is a molecule. Some viral RNA remains in patients for weeks after full recovery, but it is neither harmful nor infectious. Detecting viral RNA depends on the sensitivity of the testing equipment. The study’s title is No evidence of rapid antiviral clearance or clinical benefit with the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin in patients with severe COVID-19 infection seems to be lost on the Panel.
Chorin et al.
The Panel also quotes (Chorin, 2020) as evidence that HCQ+AZ therapy causes QTc prolongation. QTc prolongation is not a health condition itself, but a warning sign that a person is at higher risk of torsades de pointes (TdP), heart arrhythmia, or tachycardia, which might lead to cardiac arrest and death (Simpson, 2020).
Nevertheless, none of the patients, treated with HCQ+AZ, suffered TdP or arrhythmia. Four patients died, but none of them had an arrhythmia. Other studies, in which COVID-19 patients are treated with HCQ+AZ, reported taking patients off this medicine after QTc exceeds 500ms. But the treatment may have already had its effect at that time or later, while HCQ remained in the bloodstream.
This study has no control group. It provides no information on whether QTc prolongation was caused by the disease or the therapy.
FDA Warning
(FDA WARNING, 2020), issued on April 24, piggybacks on the COVID-19 Panel Guidelines. It says
Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine can cause abnormal heart rhythms such as QT interval prolongation and a dangerously rapid heart rate called ventricular tachycardia.
This statement is confused, and probably not true about hydroxychloroquine. See below.
Be aware that there are no proven treatments for COVID-19 …
I think that HCQ+AZ is a proven treatment for COVID-19. There is a difference between proven treatment and approved treatment. HCQ+AZ is not approved but proven, because many patients have been treated with this combination and have recovered.
We have reviewed case reports … concerning serious heart-related adverse events and death in patients with COVID-19 receiving hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, either alone or combined with azithromycin or other QT prolonging medicines. These adverse events were reported from the hospital and outpatient settings for treating or preventing COVID-19, and included QT interval prolongation, ventricular tachycardia and ventricular fibrillation, and in some cases death.
These are manifestations of COVID-19! See (Bansal, 2020) and (Wang, et al., 2020). The media hysteria played its role, too. The articles about the supposed dangers of HCQ, with detailed description of the symptoms, triggered complaints even before the April 24 warning. And there are people who tried to self-medicate – in the situation when authorities make it difficult to obtain prescription for HCQ – and took the wrong drug or overdosed. Also, QT interval prolongation is not an event, but an early warning.
To help FDA track safety issues with medicines, we urge patients and health care professionals to report side effects involving hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine or other medicines to the FDA MedWatch program, using the information in the “Contact FDA” box at the bottom of the page.
Such an urging and advertisement guarantee that the FDA will receive mountains of complaints.
HCQ and AZ Safety
HCQ, CQ, and AZ
HCQ & CQ are two different drugs. HCQ is clearly superior to CQ. HCQ has already been selected over CQ. Discussing these two drugs as if they were co-equal in COVID-19 treatment is misleading and a sign of bad faith.
HCQ and AZ are some of the most widely prescribed drugs and have been prescribed for decades. HCQ is as safe as a prescription drug can be. AZ is an antibiotic, and it is as safe as an antibiotic can be.
Because these drugs have been prescribed so widely, their adverse effects have been studied. A few adverse events associated with them have been reported. Combining these few anecdotal cases, some medical researchers have raised some concern, as a precaution. Doctors understand this. Statisticians understand this. But unscrupulous media uses this information to mislead the naïve public and even public figures
Remdisivir is the opposite. It has been developed very recently and has been scarcely used. There is little information about its adverse effects. The corrupt news networks present this lack of evidence of adverse effects as evidence of the absence of adverse effects.
CredibleMeds
The leading objection against HCQ / HCQ+AZ is possible QTc prolongation. Most professionals refer to (CredibleMeds.org, 2020) which puts both HCQ and AZ in the category of Known Risk of TdP (KR).
I think that HCQ was listed in that category by mistake. A review of the literature reveals only few anecdotal cases. Some of them are poisoning by large overdoses of HCQ. Then there are patients who were on HCQ for years, suddenly got sick and recovered when HCQ was withdrawn. While there are millions of people continuously taking HCQ, only a few cases of cardiac events have been reported. Even if HCQ was the cause of these rare cases, which is usually unknown, it is still statistically insignificant. It is much safer than driving. Other antivirals are known to cause QTc prolongation too but are not being pulled from practice. In the case of HCQ, it seems that a precaution principle has prevailed over statistical reasoning and common sense.
AZ is in the KR category, just like many other antibiotics, including Erythromycin. I have never heard of patients requiring QTc monitoring, when taking Erythromycin.
Attention of the Trump Derangement Syndrome crowd: many widely used psycho-active drugs are also listed in the KR category. That includes anti-psychotic Haloperidol, anti-depressants Escitalopram (Cipralex, Lexapro) and Citalopram (Celexa).
American College of Cardiology
The most reliable source of information about arrhythmia risks is the American College of Cardiology. (Simpson, 2020) in the Cardiology Magazine:
Chloroquine, and its more contemporary derivative hydroxychloroquine, have remained in clinical use for more than a half-century as an effective therapy for treatment of some malarias, lupus, and rheumatoid arthritis. … Despite these suggestive findings, several hundred million courses of chloroquine have been used worldwide making it one of the most widely used drugs in history, without reports of arrhythmic death under World Health Organization surveillance.
HCQ is even milder than CQ.
Azithromycin, a frequently used macrolide antibiotics lacks strong pharmacodynamic evidence of iKr inhibition [associated with QT prolongation]. Epidemiologic studies have estimated an excess of 47 cardiovascular deaths which are presumed arrhythmic per 1 million completed courses, although recent studies suggest this may be overestimated.
In other words, after over 50 years of effective use, HCQ and AZ have proven their safety and efficacy. There is no reason for fear, except the fear itself. But some people might be vulnerable, so the article explains how to calculate an individual Risk Score for QTc prolongers. Individuals with higher Risk Score might need QTc monitoring. Also, the authors suggest avoiding other QTc prolonging medications in the time of HCQ+AZ treatment.
The cardiologists who wrote this article did not dismiss the concern. They explained the science pertaining to it and suggest proper mitigation measures.
Other literature also suggests low risk of HCQ and AZ. (Prutkin, 2020):
Limited data on hydroxychloroquine suggest it has a low risk of causing TdP, based on its use for rheumatoid arthritis, systemic lupus erythematosus, and antimalarial therapy. … For these medications [HCQ and AZ], their time window of use is short duration, which is another reason the risk of TdP may be lower
HCQ and AZ have other known contra-indications, but they are out of the scope here.
COVID-19 caused Arrhythmia
Many studies show that COVID-19 causes heart arrhythmia. Cardiac arrest, not directly caused by respiratory damage, is one of the leading direct causes of COVID-19 deaths.
(Bansal, 2020) is a review. It finds that
COVID-19 is primarily a respiratory illness but cardiovascular involvement can occur through several mechanisms.
Acute cardiac injury is the most reported cardiovascular abnormality in COVID-19, with average incidence 8-12%
Both tachy- and brady-arrhythmias are known to occur in COVID-19. A study describing clinical profile and outcomes in 138 Chinese patients with COVID-19 reported 16.7% incidence of arrhythmia. The incidence was much higher (44.4%) in those requiring ICU admission …
It also notes that CoV2 virus might cause cardiac injury directly or indirectly. The possibility of a treatment impact is mentioned as a less likely one.
(Wang, et al., 2020) finds that 44% of the patients transferred to ICU developed arrhythmia. None of them received HCQ or CQ. Most of the patients received an unrelated anti-viral and an antibiotic. Only in 18% of the patients the antibiotic was AZ. At least some of the patients developed an arrhythmia before the treatment.
(Hawryluk, 2020):
Doctors have found that the infection can mimic a heart attack. They have taken patients to the cardiac catheterization lab to clear a suspected blockage, only to find the patient wasn’t really experiencing a heart attack but had COVID-19.
Thus, the hypothesis that CVOID-19 patients experience QTc prolongation and arrhythmia because of the disease, rather than due to HCQ+AZ treatment, is well founded. AZ may increase the odds of QTc prolongation in COVID-19 patients, who would otherwise die from cardiac arrest or multiple organs failure.
The media and professional publications report a sharp increase of mortality from cardiac arrest at home in the last few weeks. Some of these cases are known to be COVID-19, but most of them are not tested. Could many of them be happening due to the cardiac damage caused by COVID-19? Can the cardiac impact of COVID-19 be aggravated by strong QTc prolongers that many people take regularly? There are countless variables confounding this statistic. There is an especially sharp increase in home cardiac arrests in New York, which is usually explained by people’s reluctance to call an ambulance or ER.
(Kochi, 2020) provides in-depth explanation of the cardiac effects of respiratory infections and interaction with QTc prolongation medications.
Positive Cardiac Effects of HCQ
Gone unmentioned are HCQ’s positive cardiac effects. They were widely reported before HCQ had misfortune of being mentioned by President Trump. For example, Taking Hydroxychloroquine for RA or Lupus Can Reduce Heart Risk by 17%
If you take the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) as part of your treatment for lupus or rheumatoid arthritis (RA), you may be getting cardiovascular protection as an added bonus.
The article is based on (Jorge, 2019). These findings might be applicable only to long term taking of HCQ, not a 5-day course for COVID-19, but the same can be said about the alleged negative cardiac effects.
Articles/Studies criticizing HCQ
Listed here are several other papers, influential in the media, but not in the science. These papers span the range from erroneous to … non-existent.
Magagnoli et al.
(Magagnoli, 2020) is a not peer-reviewed pre-print. It makes a retrospective statistical comparison of the outcome in COVID-19 patients, who received HCQ or HCQ+AZ treatment prior to April 11, in Veterans Affairs hospitals. In the Abstract, it claims that a larger percentage of HCQ treated patients died compared to untreated patients. This ignores the fact that HCQ or HCQ+AZ treatment was given only in the most desperate cases, frequently as compassionate care. Deep inside of the manuscript, it does acknowledge that initial conditions of the HCQ and HCQ+AZ groups was much worse than those of the untreated group, but then ignores it
The original version (archived) of the “study” was published on April 21. It received crushing criticism in the comments and was replaced with another one on April 23, hiding those comments. Casting even further doubt on the credibility of this study, one of the authors disclosed Gilead funding for another research. This work was funded by a NIH grant.
Despite its multiple flaws, lack of peer review, and obscurity of the authors, this pre-print immediately received wall-to-wall media coverage. Given these circumstances, this work looks like a criminal fraud, rather than a scientific one.
Tang et al.
(Tang, 2020) is a not peer-reviewed pre-print. It reports results of a clinical trial in China, in which HCQ was given to patients 16-17 days after onset of the disease. This is too late for an anti-viral to work. Thus, this study describes the incorrect use of HCQ, rather than efficacy or safety of the drug. From the comments:
With an average delay of 16 days from symptom onset to enrollment and treatment in this trial, those patients are pretty much past the viral phase of the disease, where an antiviral treatment would have the most value, and are well on their way to pneumonia and a cytokine storm problem, which is ultimately what kills.
Once again, despite its obvious errors, the study was widely covered, including the New York Times and LA Times. Neither headline nor article addresses the obvious lateness of the drug’s application.
Mahevas et al.
(Mahevas, 2020) is another not peer-reviewed pre-print. Didier Raoult and his colleagues replied to it with a bluntness, rare in scientific journals: Scientific fraud to demonstrate the lack of efficacy of hydroxychloroquine compared to placebo in a non-randomized retrospective cohort of patients with Covid: Response to MAHEVAS et al. , MedRxiv, 2020. (Brouqui, et al., 2020). (Mahevas, 2020) also gathered many negative comments on MedRxiv.
Oral Statements of Holtgrave & Cuomo
A study of 600 patients at 22 hospitals in New York is being conducted by the University at Albany School of Public Health under the management of dean David Holtgrave. Although the study was not finished, Mr. Holtgrave already announced that the results are negative: “We don’t see a statistically significant difference between patients who took the drugs [HCQ, HCQ+AZ] and those who did not,” according to CNN. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo referred to the results as neither positive nor negative, per CNN and ABC.
No paper, or even pre-print, reporting these results, has been published, as of April 29 (searches on Google Scholar, PubMed, and medRxiv were conducted for Holtgrave hydroxychloroquine; Holtgrave COVID-19).
New York and other “resistance” states make patients jump through hoops to obtain HCQ. As an anti-viral, it should be taken as soon as possible. Dr. Vladimir Zelenko explained that in his letter, which is worth reading in its entirety:
It is essential to start treatment against Covid-19 immediately upon clinical suspicion of infection and not to wait for confirmatory testing. There is a very narrow window of opportunity to eliminate the virus before pulmonary complications begin. The waiting to treat is the essence of the problem.
He refers to patients in the high-risk category – older than 60, having certain health conditions, or shortness of breath. The resistance states established onerous requirements that delay HCQ treatment for days. This sharply lowers the efficiency of the treatment, and possibly increases TdP risks. The mixed results, promised by Mr. Holtgrave, might be caused by this delay.
Russia
On March 28, Russia announced a COVID-19 treatment based on Mefloquine. Mefloquine, invented in the US in 1970s, is another anti-malaria drug, similar to HCQ. In the West, Mefloquine was withdrawn from use after a controversy about its long-term effects. Russia might also use HCQ. From a Russian brochure (Nikiforov, 2020):
These drugs have a comprehensive negative effect on the coronavirus. It may take years of scientific experimentation to understand how and what exactly they affect. Now the fact of a positive effect has been established, and the drugs should and will be used.
The mechanisms of HCQ and HCQ+AZ action are explained (Hache & Raoult, 2020).
WHO
On March 27, WHO erected another roadblock to treating COVID-19 patients with HCQ. WHO stated that HCQ was not only insufficiently tested (which was true at that time), but that it was considered for COVID-19 at much higher doses than for malaria.
In the context of the COVID-19 response, the dosage and treatment schedules for chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine that are currently under consideration do not reflect those used for treating patients with malaria. The ingestion of high doses of these medicines may be associated with adverse or seriously adverse health outcomes.
This is dangerous misinformation. HCQ dosage for COVID-19 is the same or lower than for malaria (Drugs.com, 2019). WHO was aware of this, because it was already conducting clinical trials including HCQ and a number of other Big Pharma drugs. Yet, as of April 29, this paragraph still appears there. This act alone justifies not only defunding but ignoring WHO.
Google and Facebook adhered to WHO on everything related to COVID-19. Together with Twitter, they purged information favorable to HCQ. These is outrageous behavior for telecommunications and computational services providers.
Remarks
- It seems that the main contra-indication for HCQ treatment of COVID-19 is that no treatment is needed for healthy individuals below age 50.
- Persons in the President’s circle were claiming that HCQ / HCQ+AZ are unproven treatments. That might have been true a month ago, but not now. These drugs are proven by practice and by failure of its opponents to disprove their efficacy and relative safety.
- The Guidelines are accompanied by a financial disclosure of the panel members. Weirdly, this disclosure covers a period of 11 months: May 1, 2019 to March 31, 2020. The latest three weeks were excluded for some reason. Nevertheless, 9 out of 50 members of the panel disclosed financial ties to Gilead. Gilead’s Remdesivir is an inferior competitor to HCQ – more expensive, almost untested, and less efficient (as far as the little testing with it has shown). HCQ is a generic drug with low profit margin. Gilead Sciences directly participates in WHO trials of Remdesivir as a COVID-19 treatment.
- HCQ / HCQ+AZ are prescribed by a doctor. They are not OTC and should not be used for self-medication.
- HCQ+AZ is the most common treatment. HCQ acts on its own but is much more effective with Zinc; AZ is an antibiotic and a source of Zinc. See Dr. Zelenko’s regimen is HCQ+AZ+Zinc.
- There is a live document by Michael J. A. Robb, M.D., tracking effectiveness of HCQ-based treatments https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w6p_HqRXCrW0_wYNK7m_zpQLbBVYcvVU/view
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Chorin, E. e. a., 2020. The QT Interval in Patients with SARS-CoV-2 Infection Treated with Hydroxychloroquine/Azithromycin. medRxiv, 3 April.
COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel, 2020. COVID-19 Treatement Guildelines, s.l.: s.n.
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Hawryluk, M., 2020. Mysterious Heart Damage Hitting COVID-19 Patients. WebMD, 06 April.
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A good summary, Leo Thanks!
EVERYONE knows you are supposed to add zinc to the cocktail. Any study that doesn’t include zinc is null and void visa vis evaluating a treatment for covid.
wow, in hindsight, most of this article and most of the comments are OCBE! just like no one ever revisits political predictions (useless unless one understands probability), will anyone revisit the HQ rants after it turned out that HQ had a “primary effect of increased death”?
Also, what does this topic have to do with the purpose of this site to debate climate change? It seems that it demonstrates an anti-science bias, but inadvertently (?) simply demonstrates a science-ignorance/denial bias.
#sad
Please explain what exactly is being denied here.
Also, what data is compatible with a non trivial number of death attributed to hydroxychloroquine. The drug might have only a small beneficial effect, but nothing suggests it can cause many death.
And if there are death, it’s a case of possible error not following the protocoll.
nicebuy
So, you are saying that as long as it doesn’t cause “many death[s]” then it is acceptable? OK, maybe in the big picture that is an acceptable trade off. But, what if it is the zinc and/or azithromycin that is the active agent, and all the HCQ does is cause a small number of unnecessary deaths?
I’m astounded at how may people here fail to understand the necessity for rigorous medical trials to determine the efficacy of HCQ, the optimal dosage if it is effective, and the treatment time necessary to be sure that patients are not still capable of infecting others when released. Lastly, as I’ve remarked above, while HCQ has been used for decades for malaria prophylaxis, and we have a long list of known side-effects, we know almost nothing about the frequency of side-effects, or how they might vary with age or dosage (other than the fact that some, such as loss of color vision or blindness, become more common the longer one uses HCQ).
re: “I’m astounded at how may people here fail to understand the necessity for rigorous medical trials to determine the efficacy of HCQ,”
You’re proving out to be ‘quite the idiot’ on this topic, Clyde. I pointed out a latter day article (30 Apr 2020) written about Vladimir Zelenko and his clinical experience using HCQ and Zn et al.
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/30/medical-misinformation-part-1-hydroxychloroquine/
You don’t even understand, tha HCQ is the Zn ionophore, so it’s the combination of both that seems to help, and the value of azithromycin has been explained a lot of times here too.
My impression is, you give here the total ignorant, that role you fulfill here with excellence !
PS show me one not understanding the necessity for tests ?
PPS
And that Chloroquine is a Zn ionophore is also proven in anticancer activity:
Chloroquine Is a Zinc Ionophore
This bunch are now untreated mental patients, Clyde.
The hallucinate what they want to believe, and are unable to absorb contrary information.
The is developed into perhaps the most astounding and glaringly obvious case of what Scott Adams first told us to look for when someone is in cognitive dissonance.
They are literally unable to accurately perceive any info which will conflict with their world view.
To do so would be an ego destroying mental injury.
So instead, they literally hallucinate whatever is required to maintained their internal illusions.
Thanks for letting us participate at your self-reflections and your self-awarness, very interesting 😀
Chris, you might want to revisit the WUWT site banner for what it is about before concluding #sad. Just plain wrong.
Where are you seeing “primary effect of increased death” from HCQ? You mean the VA case where it was given to elderly patients with multiple comorbidity issues and already on manual ventilator? That the one?
Please see the following. Is this state sponsored suppression of life saving treatment. Hopefully doctors will be successful pushing back on this.
https://aapsonline.org/aaps-letter-asking-gov-ducey-to-rescind-executive-order-concerning-hydroxychloroquine-in-covid-19/
April 27, 2020
The Honorable Doug Ducey
1700 West Washington St.
Phoenix, AZ 85007
Dear Governor Ducey:
This concerns your Executive Order forbidding prophylactic use of chloroquine (CQ) or hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) unless peer-reviewed evidence becomes available.
Attached and posted here (https://bit.ly/cqhcqresearch) is a summary of peer-reviewed evidence, indexed in PubMed, concerning the use of CQ and HCQ against coronavirus. We believe that there is clear and convincing evidence of benefit both pre-exposure and post-exposure.
In addition, Michael J. A. Robb, M.D., of Phoenix is compiling all reports as they come in. As of this date, the total number of reported patients treated with HCQ, with or without azithromycin and zinc, is 2,333. Of these, 2,137 or 91.6 percent improved clinically. There were 63 deaths, all but 11 in a single retrospective report from the Veterans Administration where the patients were severely ill.
Most of the data concerns use of HCQ for treatment, but one study included used the medication as prophylaxis with excellent results. Many nations, including Turkey and India, are protecting medical workers and contacts of infected persons prophylactically. According to worldometers.info, deaths per million persons from COVID-19 as of Apr 27 are 167 in the U.S., 33 in Turkey, and 0.6 in India.
Based on this evidence, we request that you rescind your Executive Orders impeding the use of CQ and HCQ and further order that administrative agencies not impose any requirements on the prescription of CQ, HCQ, azithromycin, or other drugs intended to treat or prevent coronavirus illness that do not apply equally to all approved medications that may be used off-label for any purpose.
Respectfully,
Michael J. A. Robb, M.D.
President, Arizona State Chapter of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
Jane M. Orient, M.D.
Executive Director, Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
CC Speaker Rusty Bowers, Rep. Warren Petersen, Rep. Nancy Barto, Sen. Karen Fann, Sen. Rick Gray, and Sen. Kate Brophy-McGee
Attachments:
Sequential CQ / HCQ Research Papers and Reports, January to April 20, 2020 https: //bit.ly/cqhcqresearch
The probabilities of clinical success using hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and zinc against the novel betacoronavirus, COVID-19, revised Apr 26, 2020 https: //bit.ly/hcqtable
Leo ==> This is yet another Science War — like the Sugar Wars, the Salt Wars, the Obesity Wars — I will eventually write another piece on this as I did with other Science Wars.
There are several — all political — sources for the attacks — and, in the end, HCQ/AZ/Zn will probably be found to be the best overall first-approach treatment. It will not be found to effectively treat advanced/in-crisis patients.
Very nice summary — you might like to follow Tadaro’s daily update HCQ page.
Kip: Thank you. I have studies the mechanism of how HCQ and Zn work. The mechanism is undeniable. Whether it works in people is what the arguments are all about. I have seen enough evidence and lived through having Covid 19 to at least have some experience. My usage of quercetin and Zn made this go away very very fast and with literally no lingering effects. Since I suffered all my life with asthma and bronchitis, I expected my lungs to take a long time to feel better… like every time I get a cold that settled into my lungs. This time, after 5 days of hell with fever and very difficult breathing, I returned to full health within a few days after day 5! I am amazed at the process and mechanisms I had learned about since living through this experiment!
mario
Science is not based on testimonials. It may help to sell things, but it isn’t scientific proof.
@Clyde: I see what you just did there. You tried to may it appear that I said something I did not say and then beat it down. That’s called strawman. Stawman arguments shut down conversation. Your strawman was also a bumper sticker slogan that failed to move the conversation forward.
Maybe my typo “studies” which was meant to be “studied” confused you. I did not learn about the mechanism through testimonials as you inserted.
And if the result is not you are almost sure it will be, Kip?
Will any evidence be sufficient to convince you of any result but the one you have already decided on?
Anyone can go back and admire the astounding evolution of those who are sure they know what the results of the ongoing studies will be.
All with no solid evidence whatsoever, except increasingly strident assurances from the same people who have refused to comply with norms of experimental drug therapy, and in fact while ignoring and flat out rejecting all the contrary information that has emerged in that same time period.
Instead of adjusting expectations and understanding, the goalposts have merely been moved.
But at this point the divergence in belief is stark even among supporters of CQ and HCQ.
None of them seem to notice, and certainly not say anything, when a fellow advocate goes far over the top, professes belief in the original assertions which most have by now rejected, conflates disparate thread of information, uses political beliefs as interchangeable with scientific evidence, or makes assertions which flatly contradict other advocates.
The parallels with what we usually talk about are jaw dropping.
re: “But at this point the divergence in belief is stark even among supporters of CQ and HCQ.”
*shakes head*
GO BACK and look at the in vitro results. Geesh. It’s not that hard to ‘connect the dots’. I’ll bet even YOU could do it …
And chuck this into your biscuit too:
Medical Misinformation, Part 1: Hydroxychloroquine
By Daniel Bobinski – April 30, 2020
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/30/medical-misinformation-part-1-hydroxychloroquine/
Medical practice is called MEDICAL PRACTICE for a reason.
It is said, there are morons, and then there is McGinley …
Nothing that these morons try to understand in the text of the link. They are fixed on the rarest side effects to discredit a successful drug, why ever. TDS is one of the reasons, the other ? No idea at all. But always monologues line over line wihout any real content.
The CDC is a failure.
1st problem is mission creep. They have directors for Non-infections disease, environmental toxins, and …… Look up CDC leadership and most of the people and efforts are not focused on pandemic diseases.
2nd problem is they are totally unprepared for a pandemic, their only reason to exist. They never gamed out how to respond to a fast moving pandemic. At this point it is obvious they should have a database of control subjects who were not given any new drug. Tens of thousands have died without a specific new treatment but there is no database on them. Fauci blathers on about double blind experiments requiring not giving the most promising new treatment to one group of patients (sucks to be them) to compare to a treated group. We have just had thousands die who were not treated. But the CDC did not foresee this problem and setup a protocol with US and other cooperating countries hospitals to have a database of controls to compare with new treatments.
Fauci will let thousands more to die while his incompetent double blind protocol is slowly used to test new treatments. It is incompetent because that is used to develop drugs for rare, and slow moving diseases, NOT a pandemic. The CDC did not prepare for a pandemic and doesn’t know how to respond in an emergency.
They assumed incorrectly that they knew what the nature of a coming pandemic would be: Influenza.
They were wrong, and had not really fully considered anything like what we are seeing.
I believe Dr. Fauci is comprised and should be removed as an advisor. How can drug that has not shown real world effectiveness suddenly be championed by him this week when just a few days ago a clinical test was stopped because there was no statistical evidence it was helpful? https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/23/data-on-gileads-remdesivir-released-by-accident-show-no-benefit-for-coronavirus-patients/ And now suddenly it appears to be the “ only effective treatment” based on news reports this week? I’m not a doctor, scientist or mathematician but as a citizen this sure looks like a corporate big pharma windfall in the making. All members of the CDC, NIH and other government agencies with an interest in Gilead should be forced to sell any financial holdings in that company now… just my humble opinion.
“All members of the CDC, NIH and other government agencies with an interest in Gilead should be forced to sell any financial holdings in that company now… just my humble opinion.”
Nope! This is sedition and treason and I vote for a military firing squad. THAT would send a very clear message to the Deep State.
I am not qualified to comment on the medical evidence but it does seem to me to be appropriate to ask my doctor if I get this beast whether his/her treatment is based on current best information or his personal politics. It does seem to me that a proper inquiry at the end of this could and should result in actions against those in the profession that refused to take into account the best evidence because they are opposed to Trump or some other process that may have given a better result. Certainly when a family member is dying, to have the US Dr Fauci saying effectively ‘”we will get back to you about 2 years down the track when we have done our clinical trials”, does not quite cut it when people are dying now. In that circumstance, I would be willing to try it myself both fora fighting chance (I am in two high risk groups) and to assist in providing evidence one way or another.
Hydroxychloroquine has an important contra-indication which is frequently overlooked: deficiency of G6PD, also called favism. This is a not so uncommon condition in men from areas where malaria is common, including mediterranean areas, africa and south america, about 20% frequency. Since there are many immigrants from these areas living in USA, especially New York, this should urgently be considered and ruled out before prescribing HCQ. HCQ leads to hemolisis in these men and as a result to symptoms that can be confused with pneumonia. Actually it leads to micro embolic clotting in small vessels including the lungs.
Favism ruled out, it seems it is an efficient remedy.
Check out latest by Dr Shiva,
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1lPJqVVojdQxb
The new medical science.
Vitamins, nutrients, pharmaceuticals.
Can all be analyzed by mechanism of action, and computer simulation of these mechanisms.
In the above video he specificly refers to the viurs, and the effects of different chemical and vitamin treatments.
I believe we are seeing a great awakening in treatment of chronic diseasses.
But first we must solve this specific illness.
Check out latest by Dr Shiva,
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1lPJqVVojdQxb
The new medical science.
Vitamins, nutrients, pharmaceuticals.
Can all be analyzed by mechanism of action, and computer simulation of these mechanisms.
In the above video he specifically refers to the virus, and the effects of different chemical and vitamin treatments.
I believe we are seeing a great awakening in treatment of chronic diseases.
But first we must solve this specific illness.
This entity of treating Drs has just been formed = Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Consortium–Intro: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/05/how-treatable-is-covid-19.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+powerlineblog%2Flivefeed+%28Power+Line%29
Two Treatment Protocols(linked to in above article)
1 Consortium protocol: https://media2-production.mightynetworks.com/asset/9794803/Treating_Covid-19_in_ER_2_-_April_6_2020_final.pdf
2. 11 page detailed protocol: https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf
Neil Thank you for the information. The Dr.s must have reached there limit our government’s “health” agencies.
The government offers lockdown and wash your hands. Get more ventilators. Alternatively treat the virus.
there->their
Get more ventilators.
??? sure ???
More damage, deaths with ventilators… never heard ??
its not a complex problem….all that is required are 2 or 3 randomized controlled double bind clinical trials conducted in a rigorous manner in accordance with protocols that have been approved for at least the past 75 years…….so where are they? why is all the HCQ clinical research so ad hoc and irregular and unreliable?
every other drug out there has rigorously conducted clinical trials…..except HCQ
They are running, as they are running for Remdsivir.
Wait until you see what happens to the minds of these people, William, when the results of trials are not as they wish them to be.
Their minds are made up…there is either confirmation or the result will be utterly rejected.
Wait and see.
Wishfull thinking ? 😀 😀
There is just one real problem with HCQ promoted too much:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01165-3
From your article: “With politicians touting the potential benefits of malaria drugs to ”
STRAWMAN ARGUMENT. There were a FEW mention by a pol WEEKS ago now.
Pathetic start to that article right there in the subtitle.
I was referring to the problem of clinicians not getting enough patients for other trials than HCQ.
Everybody wants this because Fox, Trump and Macron advised it.
That is a big problem cause there might be better things out there which are not tested because of the HCQ hype.
No, because the benefit is known, when the protocol is followed carefully.
“Everybody wants this because Fox, Trump and Macron advised it.”
You believe what you typed because you read that drivel in the media. People want to use HCQ and Zn because it work, contra to what you read in the media. Oh my goodness can’t you see what you wrote and realize you have been fooled once again?
“Macron advised”
really?
Don’t hold your breath. In 2014 CDC doctor William Thompson revealed that a 2001 study proved that vaccines do cause a 200+% increased risk of Autism, and the CDC fudged the data and reported the exact opposite. The original study data was independently validated on 3 continents and Obama gave Thompson federal whistleblower protection. Yet In 6 years not a word of it has ever been spoken in the MSM. Last week a court order once again made the CDC confess they have no data supporting ANY of their claims about vaccine safety. That also didn’t make the news. Whatever trials you’re referring to will definitely give the ‘right answer’ whether or not it’s the right answer. Kind of like how ‘less than 1% of people will develop an addiction to oxycodone’. Another ‘right answer’ that FDA couldn’t rubber stamp fast enough.
Might I suggest you go get 15 vaccines and Chase them down with a few Oxys if you think the ‘science’ of for profit companies is gospel? But we know you won’t because not even you believe your own nonsense enough to do something so insane.
We’ve only known about the HCQ treatment for a month. It takes longer than that to DESIGN a good clinical trial, much less run it and treat the data with integrity (which itself is a crapshoot). So whatever point you think you’re making, you’re really only revealing your own ignorance to a mountain of proven facts. So what was your point exactly?
re: “We’ve only known about the HCQ treatment for a month.”
YOU maybe, not others; please try not to draw wide-ranging inferences with no basis …
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/17/an-effective-treatment-for-coronavirus-covid-19-has-been-found-in-a-common-anti-malarial-drug/
An effective treatment for #Coronavirus #COVID-19 has been found in a common anti-malarial drug
Anthony Watts / March 17, 2020
50 years worth not good enough for you? OK, whatever.
Watch this post about Senegal.
Similar posts from BBC.
$1 COVID-19 tests.
Chloroquine.
Only two deaths
In your last section labled “Remarks”, in the second to last bullet you state that “AZ … is a source of Zinc”. This is not true. From the wikipedia page on Azithromycin, there is no Zinc atom in the molecular picture. In fact, Azithromycin is reported to inhibit Zinc effectiveness, see https://www.peacehealth.org/medical-topics/id/hn-1094000. There’s a reason it’s described as HCQ+AZ+Zn or HCQ/AZ/Zn, as without the final Zn, you’re not getting additional Zinc.
Why delegitimize this site with a nonsensical non-climate mess like this piece?
rick, what ‘school of indoctrination‘ * do you hail from?
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* We all have our biases and conceived, sometime pre-conceived, notions on how things ought to be …
Edit suggestion –
Thus, the hypothesis that CVOID-19
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Thus, the hypothesis that COVID-19
The pre-eminent western chimeric bat coronavirus researcher, Ralph Baric, UNC, just coincidentally happened to be testing out Remdesivir in conjunction with other antivirals on MERS in a study that was published on 10 Jan 2020. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-13940-6
It is interesting that they chose MERS as it also has the furin cleavage site that SARS-COV-2 has. No beta coronavirus other than SARS-COV-2 has this. The timing of the study is interesting. It is undoubtedly the reason that Wuhan Institute of Virology took out a patent on Remdesivir in January. They read the study and reached out for possible treatments.
I bring this up to point out what a small world it is between chimeric bat coronavirus researches like Ralph Baric, who worked with Shi Zhengli on chimeric bat coronavirus in 2015 for instance, and research in the now go-to treatment that Dr. Fauci says will be the standard treatment at perhaps $1000 to $4500 per patient. It just all works out so neatly.
re: ” It is undoubtedly the reason that Wuhan Institute of Virology took out a patent on Remdesivir in January.”
Do you know the patent application number? Also, patents can take some number of years to be “issued”, and there are sometimes then challenges to said patent …
Then there is this: https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/04/who-owns-remdesivir-how-much-can-they-make-and-how-much-does-it-cost/
Patent referred to in article: https://patents.google.com/patent/US9724360B2/en
Current Assignee: Gilead Sciences Inc
Application US14/926,062 events
2014-10-29 Priority to US201462072331P [Provisional application? -_Jim]
2015-10-29 Application filed by Gilead Sciences Inc
…
https://www.biospace.com/article/china-s-wuhan-institute-files-to-patent-the-use-of-gilead-s-remdesivir-for-coronavirus/
From your link:
“Even if the Wuhan Institute’s application gets authorized, the role is very limited because Gilead still owns the fundamental patent of the drug,” said Zhao Youbin, a Shanghai-based intellectual property attorney at Purplevine IP Service Co. “Any exploitation of the patent must seek approval from Gilead.”
Who will gladly give that approval in order to sell more $1200 a pill cure-alls. Didn’t you hear? Remdesivir is the key to eternal life, no one will ever die again once Fauci&Co are allowed to bilk,,,,er, save the human race!
The point of my original comment was to point out that the reason remdesivir was settled upon early as a potential treatment by the Chinese before China even acknowledged human to human transmission was due to a very recently published piece of research. That one of the authors of the research was a person whose specialty is cooking up synthetic bat coronavirus in the laboratory is very interesting. It would be interesting to find out why he had decided to attempt to use remdesivir on them as an anti-viral.
The reason to point out that patent is just that it was the publicly available news reporting that demonstrates the very early interest in using Remdesivir. Without the research I linked from Baric, et al. would doctors have immediately moved to try remdesivir in patients with COVID-19? They might have tried other anti-virals or other treatments if there hadn’t been a coincidental paper showing effectiveness of remdesivir on MERS. It works out nicely if you want to sell some remdesivir. Probably nothing but a coincidence.
and for those that are willing to look at CDC info from the Sars-1 era
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/
We report, however, that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage. In addition to the well-known functions of chloroquine such as elevations of endosomal pH, the drug appears to interfere with terminal glycosylation of the cellular receptor, angiotensin-converting enzyme 2. This may negatively influence the virus-receptor binding and abrogate the infection, with further ramifications by the elevation of vesicular pH, resulting in the inhibition of infection and spread of SARS CoV at clinically admissible concentrations.
Conclusion
Chloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS CoV in cell culture. Favorable inhibition of virus spread was observed when the cells were either treated with chloroquine prior to or after SARS CoV infection. In addition, the indirect immunofluorescence assay described herein represents a simple and rapid method for screening SARS-CoV antiviral compounds.
More pseudo scientific pseudo logical gibberish:
“”[T]hat means it was in the wild to begin with. That’s why I don’t get what they’re talking about [and] why I don’t spend a lot of time going in on this circular argument,” Fauci said.”
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/496088-fauci-dismisses-circular-argument-coronavirus-originated-in-chinese-lab
WHO THE HELL IS THIS BUFFOON?
What argument? What circularity? I can’t bear that smug cretin anymore!
Just #firefauci!
He is shoving US taxpayers money in his pockets, on top of the millions he will get from his “investments” in Gilead, so of course he knows what is best for everyone else!
Does anyone know if any clinical trials are ongoing for HCQ and other potential candidates?
Why is treatment options so difficult during this pandemic. I have had the COVID19 for about 21 days now and the primary symptom has been a dry hacking cough. This cough is relentless. I had called around to see if there were any options to get treatment with HCQ and they said maybe and only if you were hospitalized.
There are no other options. I can still get around at home but cannot work (too weak, coughing too much). I have no insurance so I doubt they would help me unless I was dire. I;m afraid cause the cough will not go away and its driving me crazy (no sleep). I don;t know what to do. Any suggestions would be welcomed.
Mike My heart goes out to you. Take Zn, 75mg a day or a little more at the start, with Quercetin and Green Tea extract, a source of CGCG. The quercetin is a Zn ionophore. This mimics the HCQ with Zn. It should STOP the RNA replication. Go to any nutrition store and get these items.
PS: I had Covid 19 for 5 days with fever aches and pains and dry cough. I started the regimen and after 5 days, it just went away… with almost not lingering. The lingering was gone after another 24 hours. It’s anecdotal, but the mechanism of quercetin and Zn with CGCG worked for me. Take two 500mg of Quercetin a day. The Zn works when it gets into the cells which requires a Zn ionophore.
Good article, but although you do mention it in the end, too little prominence up front of two of the most ignored parts of the HCQ story/coverage:
1. Like all anti-virals (including Remdesavir), HCQ is only effective early in the disease progression, because it inhibits viral replication.
2. It’s effect is primarily as a zinc ionophore, which means any trial or application that doesn’t pay attention to enough available zinc is completely misguided. There were papers as far back as 2005 and 2010 in connection with SARS detailing the role of zinc ions binding RDRP (RNA-dependent RNA polymerase), inhibiting viral replication.
Agreed, but there is more than one action that makes HCQ help. It also involves downregulation of the immune response (less inflammation). Perhaps it’s related to the fact that it raises the pH in the cells.
i wonder why no one ever talks about the fact that COVID – 19 has a malaria component – SARS, malaria, HIV and possibly TB. The cure for malaria is chloroquine. I’ve had malaria twice and chloroquine cured it twice. I lived in Sierra Leone where we had to take anti-malaria drugs every day. If you forgot it one day, you got malaria 2 weeks later. I forgot it twice in 2 years and got malaria twice – the last time on my way home. I was delayed while recovering in Kenema. Chloroquine worked like a charm.
Author note:
AZ (azithromycin is C38H72N2O12) is NOT a source of zinc. The linked document only discusses zinc as a separate supplement.
This is worthy of an author edit/correction… this WUWT page has spread the misinformation, is linked to from another page when its submitter encountered this statement which astounded them and even added to it, ”
“HCQ+AZ is the most common treatment […] If AZ is a source of Zinc, then it starts to make sense!”
But AZ is not a source of zinc, and HCQ+AZ (with no zinc)
Add this to the unfunny comedy of Internet errors going on where initials AZ and A-Z and is being incorrectly read as (azithromycin+Zinc), or the trademarked “Z-Pak” term is used and reporters think the Z means there must be zinc is in it. How many times have people brushed off our pleas for increased awareness of these zincless trials of HCQ as unfounded because they caught a glimpse of an uppercase Z? And presumed “zinc must have been present, I spy with my little eye, a big letter Z in some headline or story, so shaddap”?